Given that another war with Rome seemed inevitable, I think trying to get the jump on them and bring the war to Rome was probably the best idea. Going over the Alps was definitely a risky move, but it also offered the greatest chance of success if he could make it over with enough men to stir up trouble in the north.
It was a good idea at the time and worked out well it's unfortunate that it gave him a biased view of his capabilities that led to his eventual downfall. And the losing of his eye shortly thereafter.
Short answer? Yes. If he had crossed in fall and engaged in winter as was his initial plan (it seems) there would not be a Rome as we know it. He lost most of his horses, nearly all his elephants and roughly half of his best soldiers. If he had crossed in fall, then fought in winter he would have had a much larger and much stronger force and would have likely walked right up on an arrogant and ill-tempered Rome and curb stomped them. Rome is classically a wintering force. They don't combat in ice. Hannibal? Clearly gave no f*cks about the cold. They did not even think he could do it; So if he had done it, and also managed to do it into their wintering and camping periods Rome would likely be remembered as a Celtic trading port authority of a greater multi-imperial influence over the Mediterranean. I mean, he could not have out-right crushed Rome but he would have SIGNIFICANTLY changed history and got his revenge in full. Probably setting up a third punic war because frankly? Carthage had run its course at this point and it's number was up. If it hadn't been Rome it would have been barbarians or revolution.
@@herrforesight-Satanisking Su presencia en Internet es innecesaria. ¿Puedes tocar un poco de hierba y hablar con los humanos? PS: there is nothing wrong as a cartagena to agree with patricks text.
@@hashira9223 The Europe effect. Except then Europe became rich enough to start reintroduction programmes and habitat protection initiatives. North Africa on the other hand got colonised and has remained relatively effed since then.
I was getting so many post-WW1/pre-WWII vibes from the Roman response to their victory in Punic 1: hard reparations breed distrust and anger, crippled economy creating further problems, losers' surprisingly fast military buildup under the noses of the victor, etc.
They were crushed as well though. They had put themselves in a position where if they hadn't taken everything left from Carthage then both might very well have died together bleeding out from the massive wounds.
@@blowc1612 An extremist who also hated the ruling establishment for “stabbing the country in the back by cowardly surrendering in the last war” in his eyes.
"Stop invading cold places in the winter!" Between Hitler, Napoleon and Hannibal, Hannibal is the only one who did it. Both Napoleon and Hitler did it in summer, it just dragged through the winter (and in the case of Barbarossa, through several winters, who happened to be among the coldest in the century).
@@prestonjones1653 Yes that is fair. It would be more accurate to say mid-autumn, and that Napoleon had thought he would've beaten the Russians by then, but when they still hadn't capitulated, he kept after them and headed towards Moscow, knowing Winter was fast approaching. It was one of his largest blunders.
Fun fact about Julius Caesar that I learned in my Latin class years ago: when he was about 25, he got kidnapped by pirates in the Aegean Sea. When the pirates first prepared to send a ransom letter to his family, he told them "My family could easily pay a ransom roughly twice that amount, and it would be an insult to only demand that much for ransom."
He also promised to come back an army and crucify them. He then came back with an army, but for being such gracious hosts they were just beheaded instead.
Hannibal couldn't wait for spring in this case. He was aware of Rome's ability to attack other theaters and knew he had to pull Roman attention away from them, otherwise Carthage could lose before he even stepped foot in Rome. Time wasn't on his side in this war
Moreover, waiting until spring would have facilitated Roman countermeasures in northern Italy. The whole point was to catch them unprepared. And worse, having 100.000 men camp in one spot for the winter season is going to devastate that army. Disease and hunger would wreck them.
27:40 fair points, but consider the alternative. He sits around for six months in hostile territory fending off attacks from the Gauls. Or worse, the Romans find him. It was probably less damaging to just go ahead and cross, especially since the plan was to use the locals as reinforcements on the other side.
Is Carthage underrated? Absolutely. Look at the Port of Carthage in the third century BCE compared to the 21st century CE. Now look at the Roman Coliseum in the first century CE compared to the 21st century CE. Win or lose, Carthage was an architectural and engineering marvel that was built to last. Not to mention, the Carthaginians were the descendants of the Phoenicians who gave us the written linguistic structures still used today throughout the Western world. No Phoenician, Linear A, and Linear B, then no Greek, no Latin, no Germanic, no English.
And Rome is over-rated. Don't get me wrong, "Go forward at all costs and take all as yours" is excellent for survival but it's also Hecka basic and boring. Most other empires have nuance but Rome is great simply because it was the Most Concentrated and Pure Empire-Energy to have ever have Empired. Every other Empire has had Nuance. Rome's Nuance was; "WE NEED MORE EMPIRE ENERGY!" As the solution to literally every single problem ever and always lmao.
To be fair, the Coliseum’s state isn’t for lack of construction quality, it’s because it was stripped and taken from for a thousand years for other building projects. It would have stayed more impressive if people hadn’t taken all that stone from it.
11:36, that's actually modern day Cartagena, which comes from Cartago Nova, so yes, after two millenia is still populated and has not been abandoned in all of that time. Barcelona was founded by the romans and was firstly called Barcina in the I century BC. Just for some context.
The origins of Barcelona aren't that clear, prehistoric settlements had been found in the area of the city; after that Barcelona was inhabited by the iberian Laietans (they minted coins that are still found to this day); then the romans conquered an named it Barcino. As a curiosity, there's also a legend that Barcelona was founded before by Hercules (but like Hercules, it is just mythology).
The way Mr Terry reacted to the shout out was wholesome. I too found this channel because I was so into oversimplified and then I started watching Mr Terry. Kudos sir.
5:49 FTX is a cryptocurrency exchange, that should tell you enough relating to the graph. Also, Oversimplified has given myself and i think many others the appreciation of patience and the reward for it when it comes to his videos
I think i know why this took so long. The production quality, the animations, and writing is miles above. Its miles above even the first punic wars videos. He has really turned up the work ethic for this one.
I love how this man is so not about the monetization that he left the oversimplified sponsor moment because he truly enjoys the video and history in general. Man i really apretiate that 10/10
Napoleon and Hitler both invaded Russia in the Summer, it was the Russians slipping away and the Winter got them on the way out. Napoleon invaded in July I think and Hitler on June 22.
The declaring war bit I thought was brilliant. 1 its funny 2 very well done how the background slowly phased in with the arrow showing the war between the nations but 3 actually a kind of genius way to show the whole thing really was kind of a d*** showing move. Legit brilliant
I gotta say Mr Terry I always watch oversimplified as it’s released but I always watch for your upload abt it you always add something to it and give more context it’s great
Apparently there’s some debate over Barcelona’s origin. There is some guessing that it’s named after Hannibal Barca, but there’s not enough archeological evidence to back it up. The earliest they have are coins found from 3bce which was almost 20 years before the Roman’s conquered Spain and set up a military camp there.
Cartagena's history is really interesting. It was founded as naval stronghold by Cartaginians as Qarth Hadash (New Cartage), then Romans conquered it and translated the name as Cartago Nova (New Cartage, again). Even today, Cartagena is Spain's most important military port, and it's submarine base.
Cool reaction, Mr Terry! But remember, New Carthage was not placed in Barcelona but in today's Cartagena. Barcelona was first an Iberian (more specifically, Laietani) settlement called Barkeno and then a city named Barcino during the roman reign over Iberia/Hispania. Those who were near Barcelona at the time of the Punic conquests besides the local Celtic and Iberian peoples were the Greeks with a few colonies like Emporion (today's L'Escala, Girona). Greetings from Barcelona
11:38 thats actually Cartagena, yes a city called cartagena from carthages name, barcelona is a little bit the the north (not that little), and the football club barcelona (barça or barsa idk how its spelled) its actually in catalonian language hence the name Sorry for my english im not a native speaker
If I’m reading that map correctly, I think Carthago Novo (New Carthage) was actually closer to Valencia than it was to Tarragona or Barcelona, which is further north near the Ebro River.
11:54 close. There’s some sources that say Barcelona was named after him. As for the city of new Carthage itself, it’s believed that became the city of Cartagena, Spain
I literally made a comment about how Hannibal isn't talked about nearly enough among historians. Very underrated military general. He is one of the few people in history who made the impossible, possible from sheer determination and strategic skill.
21:12 It almost sounds like Hannibal can't siege. And that was under full strength, against just one isolated city. It seems Roma could survive a weakened Carthaginian army under Hannibal any day.
11:47 This city is the actual Cartagena (from Carthago Nova, which translates to “New Carthage”). As for Barcelona’s etymology, the origin of its name is disputed. Some agree with what you said and defend that its named is owed to the Barca family (either Hamilcar or Hannibal), others believe it comes from Hebrew, some say that it dates back to a Roman general and lastly, the one I believe to be true, is that it comes from an Iberian tribe.
I googled Barcelona etymology and surprisingly the name of Barcelona got a Cartheginian origin. So if not from the Barca family, it got the same origins for both parts!
Barcelona doesn't come from Barca. A lot of people thought it came from Barca in the past but the name predates the Carthaginian presence in Spain. We have coins from earlier than the Carthaginian presence there which call it Barkeno suggesting it comes from a native Iberian word. We also don't have evidence that Carthage ever settled the site.
9:55 A good indication of how important a deity is to someone is to have it in your name. Hannibal's name is Latinised from the original Phoenician, which would have been something like Hannoba'al, or Hanniba'al. 11:37 In Phoenician, it was Qart Hadasht. Under the Romans, it was Carthago Nova. Under the Moors it was Qartayannat-al-Halfa. Today it is Cartagena. 11:50 You'd think Barcelona was named after the Barcid family, but there's no evidence that this was ever the case. The city is north of the Ebro, and as we know from the Treaty, the Carthaginian sphere of influence would not push north until the Second Punic War. Nor would Hannibal have had time to establish a brand new city when he was marching on Rome. As far as we know, Barcelona's relation to the Barcas is mere happenstance.
FTX was specifically Freid's Crypto Exchange. If it also had its own currency I don't know but that would be a consequence of the plot not so much the total scheme. I'm just adding clarity. The crypto crash was a total nightmare of strange stories.
11:35 from the two minutes of research I did, it looks like Cartagena is the city of New Carthage, not Barcelona. Also, Barcelona appears to be further up the coast near France, so it can't be the modern day spot of NC.
9:25 After the second series, I don't think the 3rd digimon show ever aired over here. Sure wasn't on Jetix, Nick, Disney, or CN. So more or less, for me, Digimon just disapeared from the face of the planet after 2002.
18:50 the romans were infact not masters of diplomacy, and often their poor diplomacy would lead to war. a often given reason for this is that Romans diplomats saw themselves as the embodiment of the Roman state, and would not lower themselves to gain diplomatic favor, as that would insult Rome
Mr. Terry might like Fate/Zero as it's about mages in the modern era who summon figures from our real world history, mythology, and classic literature.
To the best of my knowledge, the only source on this is from Cornelius Nepos' "Lives of Eminent Commanders", specifically the section about Hamilcar. But given that the story refers to a Carthaginian official (the "moral censor") and a Carthaginian law (that a man cannot be denied the company of his son-in-law) that are attested to by nobody else, that he's the only one of Hamilcar's many biographers to attest to this, that he wrote it almost 200 years after Hamilcar died, and that pretty much all of Nepos' biographies are more interested in making moral points than about detailed accuracy... I'd call it a "dubious" source for the claim at best.
Hannibal Barca may be the single best military leader to have ever lived. Specifically in terms of both being a great tactician and a great strategic commander. Not only being able to control the field of battle, his own troops, and the enemy. He has a terrific ability to gain the trust of his men. The argument can definitely be made that he surriunded himself with excellent advisors. But the accomplishments that even rome attribute to him are astonishing.
There is no direct evidence that the xylospongium was used to wipe oneself after defecation. There are inscriptions saying "please use them", there are references that they were used to clean something but nothing direct. And just imagine how unsanitary that would be. That alone would cause outbreak after outbreak of widespread disease. The more recent toilet brush hypothesis seems a much simpler explanation.
Do you think Hannibal's plan to cross the Alps was a good idea at the time?
Given that another war with Rome seemed inevitable, I think trying to get the jump on them and bring the war to Rome was probably the best idea. Going over the Alps was definitely a risky move, but it also offered the greatest chance of success if he could make it over with enough men to stir up trouble in the north.
It was a good idea at the time and worked out well it's unfortunate that it gave him a biased view of his capabilities that led to his eventual downfall. And the losing of his eye shortly thereafter.
It's one of the characteristics of Hannibal, which is surprise. Catching the romans off grad was probably worth the effort.
They're underrated because they lost and Romans got to write the history. Even calling it the "Punic War" was because of Roman bias
Short answer? Yes.
If he had crossed in fall and engaged in winter as was his initial plan (it seems) there would not be a Rome as we know it.
He lost most of his horses, nearly all his elephants and roughly half of his best soldiers.
If he had crossed in fall, then fought in winter he would have had a much larger and much stronger force and would have likely walked right up on an arrogant and ill-tempered Rome and curb stomped them.
Rome is classically a wintering force. They don't combat in ice. Hannibal? Clearly gave no f*cks about the cold. They did not even think he could do it;
So if he had done it, and also managed to do it into their wintering and camping periods Rome would likely be remembered as a Celtic trading port authority of a greater multi-imperial influence over the Mediterranean.
I mean, he could not have out-right crushed Rome but he would have SIGNIFICANTLY changed history and got his revenge in full. Probably setting up a third punic war because frankly?
Carthage had run its course at this point and it's number was up. If it hadn't been Rome it would have been barbarians or revolution.
To answer the question at 11:45, no. “New Carthage” is what is now called Cartagena.
As a Spanish person myself, i can agree to your answer
@@WhiteG4rfi3ldYour input was unnecessary
I noticed that too because New Carthage is pretty far away from Barcelona. But apparently Hamilcar Barka actually founded the city of Barcelona too
@@herrforesight-Satanisking Su presencia en Internet es innecesaria. ¿Puedes tocar un poco de hierba y hablar con los humanos?
PS: there is nothing wrong as a cartagena to agree with patricks text.
As a strong independent straight white man with an internet connection and Google, I can agree to your agreement of his answer. @@WhiteG4rfi3ld
30:29 What’s even more depressing is the fact that those elephants would later go extinct as they were actually part of the North African subspecies.
RIP
Almost all of the cool north African subspecies were gone when the Romans came, directly or indirectly, lions, bears, elephants...ect
Sometimes i wonder how different our current fauna and flora would be if they never went extinct@@hashira9223
@@hashira9223 The Europe effect. Except then Europe became rich enough to start reintroduction programmes and habitat protection initiatives. North Africa on the other hand got colonised and has remained relatively effed since then.
@@hashira9223Now I'm sad we didn't see the Bear and Lion cavalries being used.
I was getting so many post-WW1/pre-WWII vibes from the Roman response to their victory in Punic 1: hard reparations breed distrust and anger, crippled economy creating further problems, losers' surprisingly fast military buildup under the noses of the victor, etc.
They were crushed as well though. They had put themselves in a position where if they hadn't taken everything left from Carthage then both might very well have died together bleeding out from the massive wounds.
Lead by an extremist
@@blowc1612 An extremist who also hated the ruling establishment for “stabbing the country in the back by cowardly surrendering in the last war” in his eyes.
Yep, it's a recurring theme in history. You can only take so much from an enemy before they start getting bloodthirsty.
It's a pattern that repeats sometimes, but they were pretty quick to pay off the Roman's,they still hated the Romans, though.
"Stop invading cold places in the winter!"
Between Hitler, Napoleon and Hannibal, Hannibal is the only one who did it. Both Napoleon and Hitler did it in summer, it just dragged through the winter (and in the case of Barbarossa, through several winters, who happened to be among the coldest in the century).
Napoleón left France in June knowing he would arrive in Russia during the winter. Hence, he invaded in the Winter.
@cobracommander8133
Technically it was mid-autumn.
@@prestonjones1653 Yes that is fair. It would be more accurate to say mid-autumn, and that Napoleon had thought he would've beaten the Russians by then, but when they still hadn't capitulated, he kept after them and headed towards Moscow, knowing Winter was fast approaching. It was one of his largest blunders.
Not to mención the russian winter is harder than the Alps it never ends
If only global warming exist in the 19-20th century, France/Germany would have a better chance
Fun fact about Julius Caesar that I learned in my Latin class years ago: when he was about 25, he got kidnapped by pirates in the Aegean Sea. When the pirates first prepared to send a ransom letter to his family, he told them "My family could easily pay a ransom roughly twice that amount, and it would be an insult to only demand that much for ransom."
He also promised to come back an army and crucify them.
He then came back with an army, but for being such gracious hosts they were just beheaded instead.
@@prestonjones1653he beheaded them first before crucifying them
"ask my kidnappers if i'm just a shit talker, doc j dunking on you like boom shakalaka"
Go to the alps they said. We'd have fun they said - the elephants
Hannibal couldn't wait for spring in this case. He was aware of Rome's ability to attack other theaters and knew he had to pull Roman attention away from them, otherwise Carthage could lose before he even stepped foot in Rome. Time wasn't on his side in this war
Moreover, waiting until spring would have facilitated Roman countermeasures in northern Italy. The whole point was to catch them unprepared.
And worse, having 100.000 men camp in one spot for the winter season is going to devastate that army. Disease and hunger would wreck them.
27:40 fair points, but consider the alternative. He sits around for six months in hostile territory fending off attacks from the Gauls. Or worse, the Romans find him. It was probably less damaging to just go ahead and cross, especially since the plan was to use the locals as reinforcements on the other side.
Is Carthage underrated? Absolutely. Look at the Port of Carthage in the third century BCE compared to the 21st century CE. Now look at the Roman Coliseum in the first century CE compared to the 21st century CE. Win or lose, Carthage was an architectural and engineering marvel that was built to last. Not to mention, the Carthaginians were the descendants of the Phoenicians who gave us the written linguistic structures still used today throughout the Western world. No Phoenician, Linear A, and Linear B, then no Greek, no Latin, no Germanic, no English.
And Rome is over-rated.
Don't get me wrong, "Go forward at all costs and take all as yours" is excellent for survival but it's also Hecka basic and boring.
Most other empires have nuance but Rome is great simply because it was the Most Concentrated and Pure Empire-Energy to have ever have Empired.
Every other Empire has had Nuance. Rome's Nuance was;
"WE NEED MORE EMPIRE ENERGY!"
As the solution to literally every single problem ever and always lmao.
You know who's more underrated? Phonecia itself. Seriously.
Average Carthage supporter. I still don't know why most don't talk about Carthage, it has a nice history.
To be fair, the Coliseum’s state isn’t for lack of construction quality, it’s because it was stripped and taken from for a thousand years for other building projects. It would have stayed more impressive if people hadn’t taken all that stone from it.
@@GnohmPolaeon.B.OniShartzare you ok, buddy?
11:36, that's actually modern day Cartagena, which comes from Cartago Nova, so yes, after two millenia is still populated and has not been abandoned in all of that time.
Barcelona was founded by the romans and was firstly called Barcina in the I century BC. Just for some context.
The origins of Barcelona aren't that clear, prehistoric settlements had been found in the area of the city; after that Barcelona was inhabited by the iberian Laietans (they minted coins that are still found to this day); then the romans conquered an named it Barcino. As a curiosity, there's also a legend that Barcelona was founded before by Hercules (but like Hercules, it is just mythology).
I admit, I lost it at "Sagundeez nuts".
The way Mr Terry reacted to the shout out was wholesome. I too found this channel because I was so into oversimplified and then I started watching Mr Terry. Kudos sir.
What did I miss? What shout out?
@@ChaimS in Part Two a wall in the bathroom scene says "Mr Terry wears cool hats."
5:49 FTX is a cryptocurrency exchange, that should tell you enough relating to the graph.
Also, Oversimplified has given myself and i think many others the appreciation of patience and the reward for it when it comes to his videos
Was
Whatever man. I spent five months praying he didn't die or give up. I don't need that kind of stress. I just lost Mitten Squad.
Rip homie
@@GnohmPolaeon.B.OniShartzDude stop worrying for him, he has a job, it's more of a hobby for him do he won't do that every week
@h3lios227 you spelled scam wrong, it was a scam
New Carthage was not Barcelona. The Barca family founded it much later and farther north.
It was cartagena
the location on the map is also not barcelona, barcelona is north of that point.
It’s Valencia
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That’s what I was saying.
@@TheBandit025Nova no its cartagena
Carthage forgot to say "Swiper no swiping," three times.
I think i know why this took so long. The production quality, the animations, and writing is miles above.
Its miles above even the first punic wars videos. He has really turned up the work ethic for this one.
Also he was working on 3 videos. So Instead of 45 minutes to an hour of content it's easily 90 minutes of content.
I can see why. It's up there with the 300 Spartans. Insane what a small well trained force can do against a larger over confident force .
Weird to think that Hannibal actually spent very few years of his life in Carthage.
Hannibal's survival of the ambush in the alps should be it's own video. Preferably with multicolored rectangles.
Actually, it’s now been widely speculated that the “Communal Sponge” was actually just an ancient toilet brush
Carthage definitely underrated for many reasons, but on the strength of their great harbor alone absolutely
I love how this man is so not about the monetization that he left the oversimplified sponsor moment because he truly enjoys the video and history in general. Man i really apretiate that 10/10
11:50 - Barcelona is further away. On map I see there is still a city called "Cartagena"
Napoleon and Hitler both invaded Russia in the Summer, it was the Russians slipping away and the Winter got them on the way out. Napoleon invaded in July I think and Hitler on June 22.
The declaring war bit I thought was brilliant. 1 its funny 2 very well done how the background slowly phased in with the arrow showing the war between the nations but 3 actually a kind of genius way to show the whole thing really was kind of a d*** showing move. Legit brilliant
@27:51 you forget this general was the OG that started making this mistake.
5:20
I love how he just naturally quoted TFE
New Carthage is Cartagena, Barcelona is way up north
My favorite meme joke is that Oversimplified finally delivered a supportive dad xD
Alexander's very first battle against the Persians, the Battle of Granicus, he was only 21... 🤯
I gotta say Mr Terry I always watch oversimplified as it’s released but I always watch for your upload abt it you always add something to it and give more context it’s great
As a Spaniard, new Carthage ain't Barcelona, it's called actually Cartagena 11:38
If you cross the Alps there is no possible way that you emerge in Florence Mr.Terry 😉
Evidently Napoleon and tiny mustache man didn’t learn from Hannibal about waiting for warmer weather
Both invaded in June, but it dragged on into winter. Hannibal started his crossing during winter.
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Late autumn specifically
Finally reaction video arrived.
I was waiting for this.
"It's not a war crime the first time you do it."
I... Guess that's true.
Apparently there’s some debate over Barcelona’s origin. There is some guessing that it’s named after Hannibal Barca, but there’s not enough archeological evidence to back it up. The earliest they have are coins found from 3bce which was almost 20 years before the Roman’s conquered Spain and set up a military camp there.
11:45 No, New Carthage is today's Cartagena
Cartagena's history is really interesting. It was founded as naval stronghold by Cartaginians as Qarth Hadash (New Cartage), then Romans conquered it and translated the name as Cartago Nova (New Cartage, again). Even today, Cartagena is Spain's most important military port, and it's submarine base.
Pressing F for respect towards those elephants.
The goat is finally back
WOOO I'm so excited, I've been waiting for your upload! :)
11:45 Nope. That city they founded is called in Spain Cartagena. While the name does have reference, Carthage presence is not noted in Barcelona
27:41 To be fair, Washington attack the enemy by crossing a fressing river in the Winter. So it seems like that plan works sometimes.
30:24 Actually supposedly alle the elephants survived
Im gunna die of old age before the next part comes out
Cool reaction, Mr Terry! But remember, New Carthage was not placed in Barcelona but in today's Cartagena. Barcelona was first an Iberian (more specifically, Laietani) settlement called Barkeno and then a city named Barcino during the roman reign over Iberia/Hispania. Those who were near Barcelona at the time of the Punic conquests besides the local Celtic and Iberian peoples were the Greeks with a few colonies like Emporion (today's L'Escala, Girona). Greetings from Barcelona
11:38 thats actually Cartagena, yes a city called cartagena from carthages name, barcelona is a little bit the the north (not that little), and the football club barcelona (barça or barsa idk how its spelled) its actually in catalonian language hence the name
Sorry for my english im not a native speaker
If I’m reading that map correctly, I think Carthago Novo (New Carthage) was actually closer to Valencia than it was to Tarragona or Barcelona, which is further north near the Ebro River.
I'm loving my boi wearing a Silver Snakes shirt! Best team!!!!
11:54 close. There’s some sources that say Barcelona was named after him. As for the city of new Carthage itself, it’s believed that became the city of Cartagena, Spain
Yoo first time watching Mr.Terry again after long time.
The now extinct googly eyed horse was amazing. It had 360 degree vision or something. We miss you!
5:20 i see someone is also a fan of the Fat Electrician 😂quack bang!
You know, the more i learn about history, the more i think no one ever learns from history.
I literally made a comment about how Hannibal isn't talked about nearly enough among historians. Very underrated military general. He is one of the few people in history who made the impossible, possible from sheer determination and strategic skill.
11:47 Barcelona is in northern Spain, that was mid Spain
21:12 It almost sounds like Hannibal can't siege. And that was under full strength, against just one isolated city. It seems Roma could survive a weakened Carthaginian army under Hannibal any day.
The city was very prepared for a seige
@@wilcowen Just like Roma would have been.
11:47 This city is the actual Cartagena (from Carthago Nova, which translates to “New Carthage”). As for Barcelona’s etymology, the origin of its name is disputed. Some agree with what you said and defend that its named is owed to the Barca family (either Hamilcar or Hannibal), others believe it comes from Hebrew, some say that it dates back to a Roman general and lastly, the one I believe to be true, is that it comes from an Iberian tribe.
I googled Barcelona etymology and surprisingly the name of Barcelona got a Cartheginian origin. So if not from the Barca family, it got the same origins for both parts!
Barcelona doesn't come from Barca. A lot of people thought it came from Barca in the past but the name predates the Carthaginian presence in Spain. We have coins from earlier than the Carthaginian presence there which call it Barkeno suggesting it comes from a native Iberian word. We also don't have evidence that Carthage ever settled the site.
9:55 A good indication of how important a deity is to someone is to have it in your name. Hannibal's name is Latinised from the original Phoenician, which would have been something like Hannoba'al, or Hanniba'al.
11:37 In Phoenician, it was Qart Hadasht. Under the Romans, it was Carthago Nova. Under the Moors it was Qartayannat-al-Halfa. Today it is Cartagena.
11:50 You'd think Barcelona was named after the Barcid family, but there's no evidence that this was ever the case. The city is north of the Ebro, and as we know from the Treaty, the Carthaginian sphere of influence would not push north until the Second Punic War. Nor would Hannibal have had time to establish a brand new city when he was marching on Rome. As far as we know, Barcelona's relation to the Barcas is mere happenstance.
11:38 New Carthage was not Barcelona. Barcelona was founded as a Roman City, and is in Northeast Spain. New Carthage became Cartagena, Spain.
Seriously love how we ignore history when it comes to harsh treaties. And FTX is cryptocurrency
FTX was specifically Freid's Crypto Exchange.
If it also had its own currency I don't know but that would be a consequence of the plot not so much the total scheme.
I'm just adding clarity. The crypto crash was a total nightmare of strange stories.
I think he would search up the most painful way to kill Rome.
The city the Carthaginians founded is Cartegena today. Barcelona is North of the Ebro river and was founded by Rome, originally called Barcino.
“It’s not a war crime the first time ya do it”- mr terry
I was just thinking about you doing this when I saw he uploaded
11:36 I am almost certain that it isn't Barcelona
9:49 *OOPS, WRONG HANNIBAL, EH?*
I still can’t believe he released somthin’, Hannible is epic!
Loved the TFE quote.
11:35 from the two minutes of research I did, it looks like Cartagena is the city of New Carthage, not Barcelona. Also, Barcelona appears to be further up the coast near France, so it can't be the modern day spot of NC.
@27:31 wouldn't Hitler and Napoleon think they were the next hannibal with invading in winter? they don't make generals like hannibal anymore.
11:40 But Barcelona is on the Roman side of the Ebro
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After the second series, I don't think the 3rd digimon show ever aired over here. Sure wasn't on Jetix, Nick, Disney, or CN.
So more or less, for me, Digimon just disapeared from the face of the planet after 2002.
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the romans were infact not masters of diplomacy, and often their poor diplomacy would lead to war.
a often given reason for this is that Romans diplomats saw themselves as the embodiment of the Roman state, and would not lower themselves to gain diplomatic favor, as that would insult Rome
Just when when I thought you couldn't be any cooler, you decide to represent the silver snakes
Mr. Terry might like Fate/Zero as it's about mages in the modern era who summon figures from our real world history, mythology, and classic literature.
O7 Saulte for the elephants 30:36
"New Carthage" is modern day Cartagena. Not close to Barcelona, it's on the opposite end of the coast facing the Mediterranean.
New Carthage =/= Barcelona. New Carthage = Cartagena. Barcelona is, however, named after the Barca family (Hamilcar and Hannibal).
New Carthage is now called Cartagena, Barcelona is a different city entirely.
New Carthage becomes Cartagena
But Hannibal or Hamilcar I can’t remember which one did found Barcelona but it’s different than New Carthage
Does anyone have more information on the mention of Hasdrubal possibly being Hamilcar's lover? Was that a joke or are there sources suggesting it?
You trying to find pics?
To the best of my knowledge, the only source on this is from Cornelius Nepos' "Lives of Eminent Commanders", specifically the section about Hamilcar. But given that the story refers to a Carthaginian official (the "moral censor") and a Carthaginian law (that a man cannot be denied the company of his son-in-law) that are attested to by nobody else, that he's the only one of Hamilcar's many biographers to attest to this, that he wrote it almost 200 years after Hamilcar died, and that pretty much all of Nepos' biographies are more interested in making moral points than about detailed accuracy... I'd call it a "dubious" source for the claim at best.
@@reeve1991 Ah I see, that indeed does not sound too reliable. Thank you for sharing!
Why is Tony's mother catching all these stray shots?
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That's not Barcelona, though.
That's Cartagena.
They're very far away.
Hannibal Barca may be the single best military leader to have ever lived. Specifically in terms of both being a great tactician and a great strategic commander. Not only being able to control the field of battle, his own troops, and the enemy. He has a terrific ability to gain the trust of his men. The argument can definitely be made that he surriunded himself with excellent advisors. But the accomplishments that even rome attribute to him are astonishing.
There is no direct evidence that the xylospongium was used to wipe oneself after defecation. There are inscriptions saying "please use them", there are references that they were used to clean something but nothing direct. And just imagine how unsanitary that would be. That alone would cause outbreak after outbreak of widespread disease. The more recent toilet brush hypothesis seems a much simpler explanation.
Was new Carthage Barcelona? No. Barcelona is further up north. I'm guessing cartagena
Is that a legends of the hidden temple shirt? Holy crap this is like the 10th vid i seen this week with something from that show.
New Carthage is apparently modern day Cartagena.
Loved Roman history and the Punic wars since I was 5 I wish we could learn about them it would also mean an ez 100 on any test abt them
The chat WAS insane during both parts of this
i love watching the oversimplified video when it comes out and then watching it again when it comes out as a reaction😁
6:39 Hamilcar's speedo...
You didn't saw the goat in your video at 26:54?! XD
15:47 it was so unexpected to hear that from you and I laughed so hard xD
New carthage is named Cartagena today.
Yes Mr. Terry you could say I know about Digimon...
Poor elephants, have you heard of Sandy? a horse from WW1?