Taking the best player and figuring it out later is what got us in this problem in the first place LMAOOO Troy didn’t consider fit at all when drafting and that’s why we’re here rn
The reason Monty is here, is because they begged him to come, and grossly over paid him. He never truly wanted to be here. He is not worth half of what they paid him, and is not the coach for a rebuild, take the loss, and get rid of him.
It’s because he’s the only player of value on the team. I don’t want him gone, but if you wanted to blow it up, that is the only player that can net you anything you can build with.
@@ReoBandss They would have nothing to build with if they traded him: if you trade him for picks you have to start tanking for 3+ seasons all over again.
In terms of The Pistons and The Tigers, as far as I'm concerned NOBODY is safe. Not front office, not coaches, not scouts, not any single player. Nobody nobody nobody. If you can come up with a plan, like The Lions clearly did (and The Red Wings maybe have,) then you do WHATEVER is needed to execute that plan...even if you get rid of people and players who some thought might be untouchable.
These guys don’t know ball if they think Ivy is the answer over Cade. look at his shooting splits. I’m fine with trading any one of them, but I do not want to keep Ivy. He looks like the wrong pic.
The biggest issue is the owner. Tom Gores is the worst owner in professional sports at picking good general managers and good coaches. His talent perception sucks. Anyone still believing that this franchise will somehow be a good is dreaming. Until Gores is gone, we are cooked. He's the worst owner in a town that has a cheap stake nepotism baby who owns the baseball & hockey franchises.
Yeah Gores sucks, but Illitch is a total bum of an owner too. I’m honestly not sure which one of them is worse. Even though Gores couldn’t hire talent if his life depended on it, at least he has shown a willingness to spend, Illitch is just Scrooge McDuck level cheap.
@@ericrussell9746agree. You need to have an elite shot blocking PF like Jaren Jackson Jr next to Duren for him to work. If you dont have that, and we dont, we’re better off with a guy like Clingan
I would trade Cade and Stewart to Spurs for the fourth pick and Johnson Trade Duren to Knicks for your first round pick and one of their two first rounders if not both Draft Clingan, Matas, and Walters Sign Hield and Wiseman and run the lineup, Ivey/Sasser Walters/Hield Johnson/Matas Thompson/Fontecio Clingan/Wiseman
Lol wtf are you smoking, y’all mfs kill me with this shit, cade and stew for a top 5 pick in a weak draft? Mf do you know who Cade is? 6,7 point gaurd averaging 23/4/8 coming off a season ending injury.
Holy fucking shit this is fucking stupid, you just built an even worse roster than the current one, and one that has precisely zero point guards. Be better tomorrow, you're embarrassing yourself.
This is not the same as the Lions. The Pistons have been champions, the Lions never have been, Pistons can't do what the Lions have done in 3 years. Oh yeah the Lions still have never been to a SB or much less won 1! A good start would be having a owner that shows they really care about winning🤔
@@solomo3456 respectfully are you slow? My statement was in response to the comment if the Lions could do it, why not the Pistons. Different sport is why. If it were so easy, teams wouldn't tank in the NBA & you would have more teams with winning records. Also let me know when the Lions won the SB in the last 20-25 years🤔
I think the Pistons have talent they just weren't coached up right if you fire Monty Williams I would give this unit with the addition of a draft pick and a nice free agent and see what a better Coach could do with them
Why would the Pistons start over with Duren and Cade on the Roster? Stew and Asur are ballers also. Sasser is nice. Fintkeo is a really good role player. So is Grimes. The Pistons don't need to start over. The Pistons need to keep adding talent and building on it. And the Pistons have 65 mill in cap space. Why reset anything? The reset has already been done.
Is it yall job to nitpick? langdon need to get stuff done before he got introduced. I think that is super Detroit of him to start working before he got introduced.
Trajan already impressing. Side note. Nobody cares about baseball. I don’t know anyone who even watches baseball 😂😂😂😂. It’s an old white man sports. But I guess that’s 90% of your callers
Total MLB revenue in 2023 was $11.6B. Total NBA revenue in 2023 was $10.6B. People care about baseball….more than basketball it would appear, at least as it pertains to spending money on it. The fact you don’t know anybody who watches baseball makes sense, since you are clearly an idiot.
Thank you God my prayers was answered
Taking the best player and figuring it out later is what got us in this problem in the first place LMAOOO Troy didn’t consider fit at all when drafting and that’s why we’re here rn
Drafting for need is what got us Darko, and Jordan going #2. Etc. It's BPA every time. Casuals don't understand
@@CJM23 we won a chip that year tf are you talking about?
@@CJM23facts
@@reptileking6767yeah but darko was a bad pick
They didn’t take BPA clearly lol
I agree with Rico, Monty gotta hit the road, too.
This boy said trade cade lol
This was the right move. Troy Weaver had to go the roster made no sense at all, trade Cade conversations got to stop it not going to happen
Inside knowledge had it. Lurked around King n Deuce 😎
Yep, I watched their live stream last night when they revealed the news.
@@jajuangordy4394 You're a real 1!!! Yea, We Pistons Fans all still up in Here!!! 🏆🏆🏆
@@gumbi7777 I appreciate that and yes you got that right. Shout out to King and Deuce, they broke the news first.
Yes Monty needs to be gone yesterday!!!
Wow never thought I’d see the day
A guy who waits for things to get better without trying to make things get better has no place in coaching. Bye, Monty.
The reason Monty is here, is because they begged him to come, and grossly over paid him. He never truly wanted to be here. He is not worth half of what they paid him, and is not the coach for a rebuild, take the loss, and get rid of him.
That shrt on Rico tho!!!!😮
Why the hell would you trade Cade?
What has he done? Is he worth a big contact ?
Cade has zero spacing to help. He dominated at team USA scrimmages.
Gotta hit the reset button and he’s the only guy on the roster who can fetch a top-15 pick.
@@jakerux6092you won’t get a better player than Cade that top 15 pick is worthless
@@rrundle4 You’re gonna have to pay Cade a max. So a couple 1st rd picks and $30M in cap space is better than Cade.
Get Monty outta of here immediately. He has screwed up team chemistry everywhere he has been.
Exactly, I'm glad to see some people out there who actually get it.
Not yet unfortunately
Trade Cade? What in the world are you saying
It’s because he’s the only player of value on the team. I don’t want him gone, but if you wanted to blow it up, that is the only player that can net you anything you can build with.
@@ReoBandss They would have nothing to build with if they traded him: if you trade him for picks you have to start tanking for 3+ seasons all over again.
In terms of The Pistons and The Tigers, as far as I'm concerned NOBODY is safe. Not front office, not coaches, not scouts, not any single player. Nobody nobody nobody. If you can come up with a plan, like The Lions clearly did (and The Red Wings maybe have,) then you do WHATEVER is needed to execute that plan...even if you get rid of people and players who some thought might be untouchable.
Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
These guys don’t know ball if they think Ivy is the answer over Cade. look at his shooting splits. I’m fine with trading any one of them, but I do not want to keep Ivy. He looks like the wrong pic.
Yea I'm not gonna listen to their bullshit, then. Ivey is bad.
The biggest issue is the owner. Tom Gores is the worst owner in professional sports at picking good general managers and good coaches. His talent perception sucks. Anyone still believing that this franchise will somehow be a good is dreaming. Until Gores is gone, we are cooked. He's the worst owner in a town that has a cheap stake nepotism baby who owns the baseball & hockey franchises.
Yeah Gores sucks, but Illitch is a total bum of an owner too. I’m honestly not sure which one of them is worse. Even though Gores couldn’t hire talent if his life depended on it, at least he has shown a willingness to spend, Illitch is just Scrooge McDuck level cheap.
Rico is just terrible
He doesn’t put forth much effort or preparation it seems
@@perfectsense3240 Yea every question seems to catch him by suprise
As long as we have the same owner, this team is going nowhere.
They have it backwards, trade Ivey keep Cade
These guys are stupid clowns and I would never listen to them, but if they would do the opposite then....I guess they really are stupid clowns!
You better not get rid of Cade, or Duren
Cade & Ivey I keep. I like Duran but he's replaceable.
@@ericrussell9746agree. You need to have an elite shot blocking PF like Jaren Jackson Jr next to Duren for him to work. If you dont have that, and we dont, we’re better off with a guy like Clingan
Definitely get rid of Duren, he can't guard you.
@@msuobad I would trade Duren even if I had Jaren.
Don’t trade Duren.Monty didn’t want to coach and he should be fired.
Duren can't guard you, and no-defense centers are automatically shitty palyers.
We all hope that changes....or that he gets traded!
For the love of god please get Monty out of here, it’s clear as day he doesn’t wanna be here and he has sabotaged our team on a nightly basis.
Monty is a bum and so is Tellum
These guys know nothing wasting another pick
Monty was a mess top to bottom, start to finish. Nothing he did made sense.
I would trade Cade and Stewart to Spurs for the fourth pick and Johnson
Trade Duren to Knicks for your first round pick and one of their two first rounders if not both
Draft Clingan, Matas, and Walters
Sign Hield and Wiseman and run the lineup,
Ivey/Sasser
Walters/Hield
Johnson/Matas
Thompson/Fontecio
Clingan/Wiseman
Spurs gotta give up more for Cade at Least 3 first one of which unprotected
Lol wtf are you smoking, y’all mfs kill me with this shit, cade and stew for a top 5 pick in a weak draft? Mf do you know who Cade is? 6,7 point gaurd averaging 23/4/8 coming off a season ending injury.
If the Spurs throw in Keegan Murray and another first on top of that I’m down
Holy fucking shit this is fucking stupid, you just built an even worse roster than the current one, and one that has precisely zero point guards.
Be better tomorrow, you're embarrassing yourself.
Trade monty to Cleveland
So... get rid of cade..ausar... everyone?
Again, Valenti and Rico are attempting to give more bad advice on how to build an NBA team. Stick with football and baseball guys.
We NEED Veterans that can lead and teach the youngsters.
Listen, it can be done, the Lions did it. But it starts at the top and that means Tom Gore.
This is not the same as the Lions. The Pistons have been champions, the Lions never have been, Pistons can't do what the Lions have done in 3 years. Oh yeah the Lions still have never been to a SB or much less won 1! A good start would be having a owner that shows they really care about winning🤔
@@michaelpowell9152you are slow who cares about what happen 20 25 years ago
@@solomo3456 respectfully are you slow? My statement was in response to the comment if the Lions could do it, why not the Pistons. Different sport is why. If it were so easy, teams wouldn't tank in the NBA & you would have more teams with winning records. Also let me know when the Lions won the SB in the last 20-25 years🤔
@@solomo3456 The Lions have been dogshit for 60+ years.
Thank goodness yall don’t work for the pistons
I think the Pistons have talent they just weren't coached up right if you fire Monty Williams I would give this unit with the addition of a draft pick and a nice free agent and see what a better Coach could do with them
I mean, they definitely have one (1) talented player!
I would trade Cade! Grant Hill of modern day
Firing the GM but keeping the coach never works and makes no sense, Monty’s gotta go too
Why would the Pistons start over with Duren and Cade on the Roster? Stew and Asur are ballers also. Sasser is nice. Fintkeo is a really good role player. So is Grimes. The Pistons don't need to start over. The Pistons need to keep adding talent and building on it.
And the Pistons have 65 mill in cap space. Why reset anything? The reset has already been done.
Because they still have a core of one (1) player, perhaps?
Nah keep Monty
Monty needs to resign if he don't want to be here. No free check.
Is it yall job to nitpick? langdon need to get stuff done before he got introduced. I think that is super Detroit of him to start working before he got introduced.
1st
Troy weaver is the worst GM in Detroit history
Trajan already impressing. Side note. Nobody cares about baseball. I don’t know anyone who even watches baseball 😂😂😂😂. It’s an old white man sports. But I guess that’s 90% of your callers
Total MLB revenue in 2023 was $11.6B. Total NBA revenue in 2023 was $10.6B. People care about baseball….more than basketball it would appear, at least as it pertains to spending money on it. The fact you don’t know anybody who watches baseball makes sense, since you are clearly an idiot.