Thanks to everyone who has watched the video so far! As a couple of people have already mentioned, using RCT golf balls may help with reliability of spin rates however we wanted to test the device as it came to show where it's strengths and weaknesses lie. As Georgina mentions in her review, a budget launch monitor with a £500 price tag like this one is fantastic for looking at ball speed, distance and shot shape, as well as playing the virtual golf courses. If you're somebody who really wants to dial in the specifics of their game, and requires more accurate spin data, you may want to consider something a little more expensive. As the RCT balls have an RRP of around £70 per dozen we're not sure that they quite fit in with the 'budget launch monitor' story here!
One of the most important parts of the R10 setup is that it is level with the hitting surface. Outdoors, it’s easy - the grass is the surface. At a driving range and indoor sim, the mat is probably 1-2” higher. It does affect the numbers. Also, spin numbers inside are helped when using an RCT ball.
The Garmin R10 can be a very accurate launch that can be within 1-2% of what the much more expensive monitors like the Trackman. Now considering the lighting of you setup during this testing, the Garmin uses Doppler radar to measure the shot parameters which emits radio waves then measures the reflected signal to determine where the ball is and how it is moving so light will have no effect on its accuracy like the systems that are camera based. Unfortunately these radar based monitors do have a problem with measuring the spin of the ball therefore rely mainly on it's algorithm to determine spin. The Titleist RCT balls were designed to improve the radar reflections with reflecting strips added under the covering which significantly increase the accuracy in these units. Garmin has updated the R10 to use the RCT balls and can now measure the spin of the ball quite accurately. Yes. It would be nice if Garmin included a sleeve of these balls with the unit when purchased! So now, the proper setup is the most important factor when using the R10 both indoors and outdoors. The distance behind the ball needs to be between 6 and 8 feet with 7 feet being reported as the most accurate...yours looked like it was somewhere near those distances. Also, the area where the Garmin is placed should be as level as possible and at the same height as the hitting mat, which was not the case in your video. Yours was the thickness of your hitting mat lower than the ball which has a big impact on the ball trajectory and height measurements being lower than it should be. Next, the impact screen, when using indoors or hitting outdoors into a net, needs to be at least 8 feet in front of the ball, especially when hitting the longer clubs like the driver. This is to give the Garmin enough of a distance and time to measure and collect the data required for its calculations. The only other considerations when using indoors mainly, but can occure outdoors as well, are interference or reflections from nearby metallic objects, other electronic devices like electric motors or anything that emits or transmits a frequency within the frequency range of the garmin, which should not be very common. In my opinion, the Garmin R10 is an accurate launch monitor when setup properly and is an outstanding value compared to the extremely high priced launch monitors that are designed more for the professional club fitters and tour pros who can afford the high cost of owning them.
Excellent video, really enjoyed this. As you say, if you are at a level where stats are driving your progress, you need to invest in something more advanced but for the average golfer who requires distance control this is adequate.
Important to also calibrate the device in the Garmin app anytime you move the device. Also Awesome Golf is more accurate than the Garmin app - I have mine in my shed and have 8ft to my net and it is pretty good.
I have own and used daily my R10 since the launch 2 years ago. and love it. Garmin software is ok, 6/10 really, but awesome golf the data 10/10 is very accurate against the Quads and Trackmans. With a gaming PC Graphics card 1650 or above, gives you GS Pro at 1080p. All my practice ball 100 in a shag bag have a foil tape dot faces away from strike point to save the tape. Spin reads are good on Awesome, with radar friendly balls. Home Tee Hero is great fun also, good starting unit, good out door and indoor. You need to use RCT balls in door. Light make no difference it is Doppler RADR
Interesting. In other reviews (I watched practically all of YT before buying the R10 last year) it is usually stated that Awesome doesn't measure anything itself, it just takes the measured data from R10. So if R10 was able to measure the spin for real (very often it comes as 'estimated' if you download the CSV data, meaning it's calculated) I thought Awesome just copies it.
I've used the R10 for a year on the range (which also has TM), it's really good value. My own experience: Spin is indeed not reliable (also not outdoors, and I don't plan on whacking RCT balls down the range), But the basic angles are good enough (FTP, FTT, AoA) and ball and club speed pretty spot on. Good enough means that roughly 1 in every 15 shots don't curve the way the R10 sees them on a windless day. Byproduct: I loved the numbers so much that it left me wanting for more, so got myself a Mevo+ now to measure swing plane, descent angle and low point too. But that comes with 6x the price of the R10, so that's a stiff price hike compared to what the Garmin offers. I still use the very sturdy clamp to record my swing by the way - very nice extra from Garmin
A shame there was no comparison of club path data, did that indoor trackman setup not support it? I know the R10 does it but by Garmin's own admission not very accurately, +/- 4 degrees when I last checked their website.
Agree. In my experience over a year on the range, only when my path starts getting around 1 degree plus or minus, the R10 is sometimes pushing it the other side of zero - which makes the app show the shot start off in the other direction, so I'd say it's closer to +/- 2 degrees. But must admit I haven't compared it to TM.
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Thanks to everyone who has watched the video so far! As a couple of people have already mentioned, using RCT golf balls may help with reliability of spin rates however we wanted to test the device as it came to show where it's strengths and weaknesses lie. As Georgina mentions in her review, a budget launch monitor with a £500 price tag like this one is fantastic for looking at ball speed, distance and shot shape, as well as playing the virtual golf courses.
If you're somebody who really wants to dial in the specifics of their game, and requires more accurate spin data, you may want to consider something a little more expensive. As the RCT balls have an RRP of around £70 per dozen we're not sure that they quite fit in with the 'budget launch monitor' story here!
One of the most important parts of the R10 setup is that it is level with the hitting surface. Outdoors, it’s easy - the grass is the surface. At a driving range and indoor sim, the mat is probably 1-2” higher. It does affect the numbers. Also, spin numbers inside are helped when using an RCT ball.
The Garmin R10 can be a very accurate launch that can be within 1-2% of what the much more expensive monitors like the Trackman. Now considering the lighting of you setup during this testing, the Garmin uses Doppler radar to measure the shot parameters which emits radio waves then measures the reflected signal to determine where the ball is and how it is moving so light will have no effect on its accuracy like the systems that are camera based. Unfortunately these radar based monitors do have a problem with measuring the spin of the ball therefore rely mainly on it's algorithm to determine spin. The Titleist RCT balls were designed to improve the radar reflections with reflecting strips added under the covering which significantly increase the accuracy in these units. Garmin has updated the R10 to use the RCT balls and can now measure the spin of the ball quite accurately. Yes. It would be nice if Garmin included a sleeve of these balls with the unit when purchased!
So now, the proper setup is the most important factor when using the R10 both indoors and outdoors. The distance behind the ball needs to be between 6 and 8 feet with 7 feet being reported as the most accurate...yours looked like it was somewhere near those distances. Also, the area where the Garmin is placed should be as level as possible and at the same height as the hitting mat, which was not the case in your video. Yours was the thickness of your hitting mat lower than the ball which has a big impact on the ball trajectory and height measurements being lower than it should be. Next, the impact screen, when using indoors or hitting outdoors into a net, needs to be at least 8 feet in front of the ball, especially when hitting the longer clubs like the driver. This is to give the Garmin enough of a distance and time to measure and collect the data required for its calculations.
The only other considerations when using indoors mainly, but can occure outdoors as well, are interference or reflections from nearby metallic objects, other electronic devices like electric motors or anything that emits or transmits a frequency within the frequency range of the garmin, which should not be very common.
In my opinion, the Garmin R10 is an accurate launch monitor when setup properly and is an outstanding value compared to the extremely high priced launch monitors that are designed more for the professional club fitters and tour pros who can afford the high cost of owning them.
Excellent video, really enjoyed this. As you say, if you are at a level where stats are driving your progress, you need to invest in something more advanced but for the average golfer who requires distance control this is adequate.
Important to also calibrate the device in the Garmin app anytime you move the device. Also Awesome Golf is more accurate than the Garmin app - I have mine in my shed and have 8ft to my net and it is pretty good.
I have own and used daily my R10 since the launch 2 years ago. and love it. Garmin software is ok, 6/10 really, but awesome golf the data 10/10 is very accurate against the Quads and Trackmans.
With a gaming PC Graphics card 1650 or above, gives you GS Pro at 1080p. All my practice ball 100 in a shag bag have a foil tape dot faces away from strike point to save the tape.
Spin reads are good on Awesome, with radar friendly balls. Home Tee Hero is great fun also, good starting unit, good out door and indoor.
You need to use RCT balls in door. Light make no difference it is Doppler RADR
Interesting. In other reviews (I watched practically all of YT before buying the R10 last year) it is usually stated that Awesome doesn't measure anything itself, it just takes the measured data from R10. So if R10 was able to measure the spin for real (very often it comes as 'estimated' if you download the CSV data, meaning it's calculated) I thought Awesome just copies it.
I've used the R10 for a year on the range (which also has TM), it's really good value. My own experience: Spin is indeed not reliable (also not outdoors, and I don't plan on whacking RCT balls down the range), But the basic angles are good enough (FTP, FTT, AoA) and ball and club speed pretty spot on. Good enough means that roughly 1 in every 15 shots don't curve the way the R10 sees them on a windless day. Byproduct: I loved the numbers so much that it left me wanting for more, so got myself a Mevo+ now to measure swing plane, descent angle and low point too. But that comes with 6x the price of the R10, so that's a stiff price hike compared to what the Garmin offers. I still use the very sturdy clamp to record my swing by the way - very nice extra from Garmin
Apparently using silver dot stickers on the ball indoors can help with the spin rate accuracy
You can also try silver paint marker, works quite well outdoors.
A shame there was no comparison of club path data, did that indoor trackman setup not support it? I know the R10 does it but by Garmin's own admission not very accurately, +/- 4 degrees when I last checked their website.
Agree. In my experience over a year on the range, only when my path starts getting around 1 degree plus or minus, the R10 is sometimes pushing it the other side of zero - which makes the app show the shot start off in the other direction, so I'd say it's closer to +/- 2 degrees. But must admit I haven't compared it to TM.
Your screen seemed to close and try RCT balls indoors.