Yeah I don't know how you lost that pot other than the dealer was an idiot to because it would be the best to pair and the ace kicker would only play if you both had a pair of fives and you had the king kicker
5:10 You had QQ66 villain had QQ55, the second pair comes into play and the kicker is ignored.. How did the villain win?? Are you sure he didn't have A9off?
Ok.. I'm confused @5:08 mark.... How did you lose, when you had a bigger 2 pair than your opponent? Two Q's on the board..you flopped middle pair with a 6, and rivered 2 pair with another Q.... How did you lose this??
Hey great video like always, but you won the pot where you had K6 against villains A5. You had the higher 2pr on that one. I wish you’d have played at Venetian which I think is the best poker room in Vegas.
Jamming with JJ on J88 is not a play that maximizes EV. You only lose to another 8 in a runout or if a higher pair makes a full house. There were 2 spades and a bunch of straight draws. If you just flat and they make their draw you can get them all in with you as well (by the river is where you jam)
It's not about what he might lose to, the reason for jamming is it makes you balanced, especially with only a pot sized bet left. There is no way that once a flush comes, anybody with a straight draw will continue especially when the villain and hero both have nutted hands and will likely bet/raise the turn. He's only missing out on very little value with that $25 bet on the flop from the other player. Whereas he can get a call from a flush draw, straight draw and an 8. There is also no guarantee that if he flats, the player after him with 87 will flat. He will most likely raise since he called the all in bet and therefore everyone will fold as they did. Also the guy who led for $25 on the flop must have been weak anyways because you wouldnt bet $25 just to fold to the short stack jam and crazy player call if you had a flush draw or an 8. He probably had one pair or 910 at best but he's not going to call 2 players who have nutted hands or possibly a better draw than him.
@@hattershouse710 that rationale makes no sense. I’m talking about it from a why jam perspective? Your hand doesn’t need protection and you want the $25 bet to get more callers. Jamming is the only way you don’t maximize your EV in this spot. By your logic you should be jamming quads here too.
@@ST-er4bz it’s not about protecting your hand it’s about being balanced like I said. The times he does have a flush draw or an over pair do you expect him to just call? No he should be shoving when he has flush draw’s with only a pot size bet left. That’s another key factor is how many chips he has. If it was heads up or three ways you might have a point. But when it six ways after the flop and you only have a pot size bet left you’re supposed to jam over a $25 donk lead. Flopping quads would be a different story because that is the absolute nuts as opposed to a full house which can be out drawn. The guy who Donk leads shouldn’t be scared of a jam from the pre-flop raiser when the pre-flop raiser has less than a pot size bet. Like I said even if the hero just calls, the p layer behind him will most likely raise which will fold out the other players anyway. Let’s assume for the sake of argument that everybody calls the 25 and it goes to a turn. If the turn brings a flush and nobody has a flush and the hero goes all in then that folds out everyone. My point being is he has so little chips that if anybody had a flush draw or an eight they’re going to call his shove no matter what.
Put it this way what hands do you think the big blind is leading with on the flop that will continue to lead off until the river That would not call Jam for $70 more? The guy is betting into five people which is a sign of strength. There is no way that six people are going to call small bets all the way until the river so you can get max value it’s just not going to happen.If he was strong he would’ve called no matter what with hands like J9, 910, any two spades, sets, an 8 and possibly two pair.
The Jacks hand, a call there looks relatively stronger than an all in.. if you did just call the flop, I’m sure your buddy on the left would have raised to shut out the initial bettor, so I think you got the max... nh btw!
Considering the board texture and how short you were, jamming with JJ’s full there was an advance move. Unorthodox? Maybe but what you did confused your opponent and led you to get called which means it was absolutely the correct move. You could’ve slow played it and potentially got all the straight draws and flush draws in there but typically when you jam short on a straight and flush draw board texture, people will assume you’re always playing a draw so your play definitely worked here. If you and Villain were deeper like 150-200 bb’s, absolutely just call and look for a big check raise on the turn if he continues. If check check on turn, over-bet river.
You check way too many of your premium hands. Don't be afraid to bet - other players will call. Losing value by checking. Glad you came away with a win!
Totally thinking the same thing. Even if they don't call rake in a pot.... Allowing them to catch up burns. Ive learned and continue to learn. A win is a win.
Hey Tony just a suggestion and maybe it's other poker channels have caused this but can you show the flop as you are saying it. It's hard to visualize the hand, then after you say it you show it on the screen but by then you start to moved on to the next stage of the hand and my mind just got a chance to look at the flop, its just harder to follow. Just something I have noticed and maybe its only me but just wanted to give feed back.. Also you have the word Pot under the cards not sure if that's an accident or on purpose
You definitely could have gotten more money on with the Jacks full hand.....no sweat, still got one players money and doubled up.....good lesson though
Assuming all 5 players call there is no way the BB is leading into 5 people again unless he hits whatever card he needs. At that point it would possibly get checked around to the river. Now assuming a flush comes in and it checks to the hero, he bets and maybe an 8 will call. Therefore he basically got the same value he would've got with his shove. What hands are the BB leading $25 into 5 people with that will continue to value own himself with on the turn and river but wont call a shove for $70 with $300 in the pot already? Obviously no one had a flush draw otherwise they would have called that shove too. Thats why if a flush card actually came on the turn or river that would be a scare cared for everyone and the hero wouldn't get value from an 8 at that point.
Just subbed! Like what your doing Tony, but if i can give you one grain of advice, you need to be exploiting the lower stakes players more. For example, i would like to see you bet for thin value with your top pair hands on all streets. Alot of people will call you with middle pair and weaker top pair hands and all draws. Your going to make a good chunk of your profit with top pair, just something to think about.
Tony I beg you just watch your videos before you post them. The K6 hand you were SB. You had a pair of 6s you said you lost to a pair of 5s. A win is a win for you congrats on the $109 win. Can't wait for the rest of the Vegas trip.
Kenny, check your notes, 2nd hand of the vlog, your 6 should have won? Also, your vlog has you betting out before a player in the blinds? Bet sizing still is an issue, $5 bets are home game carry over. On the Jacks full flop, sitting on the 2nd nuts too 4 8s, never raise the flop! What are you afraid of? No need to announce your hand until the river, thats more of a rockie's mistake, and you should know better. Hope the rest of your trip goes great for you 🤙
With 6 players in the pot and as the preflop raiser with less than a pot sized bet after the BB donk leads, shoving is fine. Assuming he just calls, the crazy villian with an 8 is going to raise everyone out regardelss. Let's assume all 5 players call. Now a scare card comes like a flush. The BB is not going to bet into 5 people again unless he has a boat or flush. Therefore if you allow him to check, then you check, only someone with a nutted hand will try to bet. Assuming the Villian didnt have an 8 he will most likely check and it will check through. Now the river comes, BB checks and you now bet all in. Whos going to call and with what hands are you targeting that didnt bet the turn or raise the flop.? What hands are the BB going to bet into everyone with on the flop or turn that he wont call a $70 shove right now? By shoving you are balancing you flush draws and over pairs in this spot. If it was heads up or 3 players then you could probably just flat flop and raise turn. But again. its highly unlikely that if all 5 players call, that the BB will again bet on turn into 5 people unless he had a nutted hand. And if he did have a nutted hand then he's calling your jam on the flop even though the crazy guy called too because he still has equity vs him in a side pot.
@@hattershouse710 but why give anyone who thinks they are trapping with an 8, or a big flush draw a chance to nitt 8t up and fold. Like I said, the only hand Tony is losing too is pocket 8s, so call the flop, let anyone in on the flush draws and holding an 8. Let one of them shove if they want too. Hopefully the flush comes in on the turn, or anyone holding an 8 will hit their kicker 9n the turn. Just no need to push the action there on the flop in my opinion. More money to be made by allowing someone to come in as cheap as possible when the flop hits you that hard. If someone has pocket 8s so be it, they aren't going to shove until the river anyway. When you flop the top full house, you've got to give anyone drawing the pot odds to call and come along. If someone else then shoves, then great, but I would've just called hitting that flop as hard as he did, and waiting to shove until the river, you want as many people to see the river card as possible in this case. Again, my opinion, and how I would have played it.
@@mikemckeon8976 Bro, this is low stakes. They called a 12 raise. If they actually had a flush draw or an 8 they would call as the villain did. By your logic, if they were nitting it up they wouldn't call a $12 raise and then lead out $25 just to fold for $70 more when there is now over $300 in the pot when the hero goes all in and gets one caller. Go back to my question. What hands are the BB leading $25 with into 5 people that he will continue to do on the turn if all 5 people just call? Not very many. Now assuming someone even had a flush draw or an 8 do you really think they would fold to this shove? I mean seriously. The main caviat with this hand is chip stack size. The hero doesn't have enough chips to play this as just a call 6 ways on the flop. Unless he flopped quads. If you wait until the river you will lose value if a flush comes because obviously no one had that draw. Even people with an 8 might fold at that point and there is no guarantee that it wouldn't get checked through on the turn. Again you would lose value there too.
@@mikemckeon8976 this would make sense if it was heads up or with three players and the hero had more money behind. When you raise pre-flop and you get five callers then you get donk led into and you have less than a pot size bet it makes sense to shove even if you have top full house. The reason why is this protects your shoving range when you have an over pair or flush draw yourself. If you had one of those hands you would shove wouldn’t you? Or would you just call the $25 Donk lead. You are assuming that someone would not call a flush draw for $90? Or call $90 with an 8? Cmon bro. If any one of those players had a flush draw they would call. Or if they had an 8 they would call. Obviously none of the players had anything so what makes you think they would hit a hand that doesnt have an 8 in it and call an all in on the turn or river? What hands are calling 25 5 ways then calling a shove and a call from the crazy player with 87?
@@hattershouse710 I'm just saying to call the the donk bet, to try and keep others in the hand, of course he's shoving on anyone else's raise. The guy behind with 87 acted like he was just calling per what Kenny reported. I know its low stacks, and folks do weird things. But when you flop the nuts or 2nd nuts with multiple people to act, I try to keep their money in the hand and not push them out. If he called, and 87 guy called, maybe one more might have called or raised putting another $25 into the pot. Then on turn, 1st to act might bet/shove his draw, Kenny calls off his stack, and 87 guy calls and maybe even anyone else left in hand. Again its low stakes, which is what I normally play, and have witnessed many of multi way all ins. Again, just my thoughts, he won, but didn't get the chance to triple or quad up.
Getting it all in and getting a call is always good. Awesome to see some vegas action. Can’t wait for part 2!
Thanks dude. Yeah I thought all in there was ok
Your terminology and play is hilarious. Thanks-the vlog is always good for many laughs.
Here to entertain. Thanks for watching
Awesome drone shots!!! Good episode
Pot at 5:12 you actually won since you had Queens and 6s opponent had Queens and 5s
I was seeing the same thing
Yeah I don't know how you lost that pot other than the dealer was an idiot to because it would be the best to pair and the ace kicker would only play if you both had a pair of fives and you had the king kicker
You won the pot. Pair of 6s beats pair of 5s.
Looks like the other guy actually had Q5 for a boat so dealer was correct.
@@jimwahout3114 so the guy had a boat and didn’t raise?
Wait that first hand how did u lose with the k6..he had A5
Razz
Yes, I'm confused too!
Yep, seems like his notes are off again.
@@mikemckeon8976 Maybe, but still confused...following the "camera view" it seemed like the dealer pushed the chips to the opponent, too?????
Just A high.
Thx your moves were great and you came out a 🏆 winner!
Glad you enjoyed!
how did u loose the hand posted at 5:12 in ur vlog.. u have k, 6.. he has A, 5 .. board Q, 9, 6, 5, Q..
I THINK UR OPPENT HAD A, 9..
U must of miss wrote down his hand
6’s lose to 5’s? What’s up?
John O'Mara was thinking same thing. Maybe an editing mistake and there actually wasn’t a 6 of diamonds on the board this hand?
5:10 You had QQ66 villain had QQ55, the second pair comes into play and the kicker is ignored.. How did the villain win?? Are you sure he didn't have A9off?
NM seems there is a thread already on this!! you DID win that hand if what cards you stated were correct.
Ok.. I'm confused @5:08 mark.... How did you lose, when you had a bigger 2 pair than your opponent? Two Q's on the board..you flopped middle pair with a 6, and rivered 2 pair with another Q.... How did you lose this??
How did you lose to a pair of fives when you had a pair of sixes I'm so confused
Mistake in editing by me He had 3-5’s
@@TonyG410 so he pockets 5’s for a full house 555QQ? And didn’t raise?
That river bad is atrocious if you think you're betting for value. What hand do you expect to call and beat on a Q965Q board?
I just said the same thing
Hiw did u lose to 5s when you had a 6
How do you loose to a pair of 5’s when you have a better 2 pair Qs and 6’s ??
Mistake in editing by me He had 3-5’s
Good episode babe!!! Glad
U made $$$
Hey great video like always, but you won the pot where you had K6 against villains A5. You had the higher 2pr on that one. I wish you’d have played at Venetian which I think is the best poker room in Vegas.
Next time I definitely will. The rake is terrible there btw. But still good action I hear
@@TonyG410 yeah I understand, although rake is high the action is great, lots of bluffers!
@@kkool20 def going next time. Was only in Vegas for like 45 hrs & I played 20ish
@@TonyG410 You won’t regret it
Just letting you know the clouds look the same in melbourne australia as there
Lol thanks
Triple OG !!!
How did you lose the K6 suited hand, (2nd hand on the vlog)? You had 2 pair 6s and Queens; the other gut had 2 pair 5s and Queens.
Mistake in editing by me He had 3-5’s
Ay Caramba!!!
Jamming with JJ on J88 is not a play that maximizes EV. You only lose to another 8 in a runout or if a higher pair makes a full house.
There were 2 spades and a bunch of straight draws. If you just flat and they make their draw you can get them all in with you as well (by the river is where you jam)
It's not about what he might lose to, the reason for jamming is it makes you balanced, especially with only a pot sized bet left. There is no way that once a flush comes, anybody with a straight draw will continue especially when the villain and hero both have nutted hands and will likely bet/raise the turn. He's only missing out on very little value with that $25 bet on the flop from the other player. Whereas he can get a call from a flush draw, straight draw and an 8. There is also no guarantee that if he flats, the player after him with 87 will flat. He will most likely raise since he called the all in bet and therefore everyone will fold as they did. Also the guy who led for $25 on the flop must have been weak anyways because you wouldnt bet $25 just to fold to the short stack jam and crazy player call if you had a flush draw or an 8. He probably had one pair or 910 at best but he's not going to call 2 players who have nutted hands or possibly a better draw than him.
@@hattershouse710 that rationale makes no sense. I’m talking about it from a why jam perspective? Your hand doesn’t need protection and you want the $25 bet to get more callers. Jamming is the only way you don’t maximize your EV in this spot. By your logic you should be jamming quads here too.
That’s what I was thinking quads
@@ST-er4bz it’s not about protecting your hand it’s about being balanced like I said. The times he does have a flush draw or an over pair do you expect him to just call? No he should be shoving when he has flush draw’s with only a pot size bet left. That’s another key factor is how many chips he has. If it was heads up or three ways you might have a point. But when it six ways after the flop and you only have a pot size bet left you’re supposed to jam over a $25 donk lead. Flopping quads would be a different story because that is the absolute nuts as opposed to a full house which can be out drawn. The guy who Donk leads shouldn’t be scared of a jam from the pre-flop raiser when the pre-flop raiser has less than a pot size bet. Like I said even if the hero just calls, the p layer behind him will most likely raise which will fold out the other players anyway. Let’s assume for the sake of argument that everybody calls the 25 and it goes to a turn. If the turn brings a flush and nobody has a flush and the hero goes all in then that folds out everyone. My point being is he has so little chips that if anybody had a flush draw or an eight they’re going to call his shove no matter what.
Put it this way what hands do you think the big blind is leading with on the flop that will continue to lead off until the river That would not call Jam for $70 more? The guy is betting into five people which is a sign of strength. There is no way that six people are going to call small bets all the way until the river so you can get max value it’s just not going to happen.If he was strong he would’ve called no matter what with hands like J9, 910, any two spades, sets, an 8 and possibly two pair.
The player could have had QUAD 8’s!!!! Lol. Great vlog Tony G. Hope your trip went well!
Thanks dude
Wait. How is QQ55 winning to your QQ66? Did he actually have 6 and A kicker wins? I'm so confused with the first hand.
It was mistake by me... he had 3-5’s
So what's the $ goal while in Vegas?
New sub.
FYI it should say "BOARD" instead of "POT". Pot means the amount of money in the pot.
Pot is there for the future I’ll be putting the amount in. Thanks for watching
A win is a win. How was the burger?
Burger is sooo good. Thanks for watching
You have queens and 6’s and he has queens and 5’s how do you loose ?
Was a mis-edit.
The Jacks hand, a call there looks relatively stronger than an all in.. if you did just call the flop, I’m sure your buddy on the left would have raised to shut out the initial bettor, so I think you got the max... nh btw!
Thanks appreciate it
Why would you want pot control when you have the nuts?
I know I know
You didnt answer the question. You said you checked for pot control. Why would you want to pot control on this hand?
@@gregwolfe7796 I probably mis-spoke. I edited 4!vlogs in 1 day. He legit did win the hand. I’ll have to go back & check my notes.
How did he loose to a pair of 5 when he had a 6 pair can someone explain pls
Mistake edit by me he had 3-5’s
Considering the board texture and how short you were, jamming with JJ’s full there was an advance move. Unorthodox? Maybe but what you did confused your opponent and led you to get called which means it was absolutely the correct move. You could’ve slow played it and potentially got all the straight draws and flush draws in there but typically when you jam short on a straight and flush draw board texture, people will assume you’re always playing a draw so your play definitely worked here. If you and Villain were deeper like 150-200 bb’s, absolutely just call and look for a big check raise on the turn if he continues. If check check on turn, over-bet river.
Not a huge fan of slow play but at t8me I felt it was decent
How you lose to ace 5? If you have king 6 and flopped a pair of 6
Mistake in editing by me He had 3-5’s
Pot controlling with the nuts vs a player you want to stack. Interesting
I was confused by that
Doing my thing
@@TonyG410 I think your confused with the whole concept of pot control
@@TonyG410 "doing your thing" prob cost you at least $100 of value
@@plollercoaster3542 for real!! Learning everyday
Lmaooo the good old not paying attention cost you some money .. I would of bitch slapped my dealer mucking my winning hand
Thought the JJ’s was played fine!!
Thanks!! Appreciate the support
You played the jacks hand fine. Wouldn’t beat yourself up over it
Cool
You check way too many of your premium hands. Don't be afraid to bet - other players will call. Losing value by checking. Glad you came away with a win!
Totally thinking the same thing. Even if they don't call rake in a pot.... Allowing them to catch up burns. Ive learned and continue to learn.
A win is a win.
This is true. Need to get more often
What? How do you lose to a pair of 5s with pair of 6s?
Mistake in editing by me He had 3-5’s
How do you lose to a pair of 5s and you had a pair of 6s? A win is a win, Think you played JJ fine
You maxxed out jj. If you didnt raise the guy to your left would have and the other guy would have folded anyway
Yeah I was confused about that 66 versus 55 hands. I think the JJ was at max valued.
JJ I thought I could have got more
@@gregwolfe7796 agree 100%
@@TonyG410 As greg wolfe said if you dont raise guy with the 8 does and he folds. At best he has ace high
Check calling with the nut flush isn’t so good. Gotta get some money in the pot. Your goal is to find a way to get more money in there
True true. Thanks for watching
Hey Tony just a suggestion and maybe it's other poker channels have caused this but can you show the flop as you are saying it. It's hard to visualize the hand, then after you say it you show it on the screen but by then you start to moved on to the next stage of the hand and my mind just got a chance to look at the flop, its just harder to follow. Just something I have noticed and maybe its only me but just wanted to give feed back.. Also you have the word Pot under the cards not sure if that's an accident or on purpose
Since when does a pair of 5s beats a pair of 6s? So confused
He had A high not pair 5’s my bad
But he won the hand. You had a pair
You definitely could have gotten more money on with the Jacks full hand.....no sweat, still got one players money and doubled up.....good lesson though
1000% yes... agreed
You missed a ton of value by pot controlling with the nuts lol
Lol yeah need to work on that
Pot control Noooooooooo
Pot control while having the nuts…that’s interesting
Lol yeah wow this was a long time ago
how does a pair of 5's win to a pair of 6's
Why go all in with JJ. You have the eff nuts and there could be draws to pay later. 109. 97. Q9. Q10. And spade hand. The 8 was paying either way.
True true... hind sight
Assuming all 5 players call there is no way the BB is leading into 5 people again unless he hits whatever card he needs. At that point it would possibly get checked around to the river. Now assuming a flush comes in and it checks to the hero, he bets and maybe an 8 will call. Therefore he basically got the same value he would've got with his shove. What hands are the BB leading $25 into 5 people with that will continue to value own himself with on the turn and river but wont call a shove for $70 with $300 in the pot already? Obviously no one had a flush draw otherwise they would have called that shove too. Thats why if a flush card actually came on the turn or river that would be a scare cared for everyone and the hero wouldn't get value from an 8 at that point.
How you lose with the k6 to a5 u had sixes
Mistake in editing by me He had 3-5’s
@@TonyG410 how the hell you hand lose to 35 then?????
U should win that k6 of spade he has A 5 u have better two pair
You played the JJ hand perfectly with your chip stack.
What I thought thanks for watching
Just subbed! Like what your doing Tony, but if i can give you one grain of advice, you need to be exploiting the lower stakes players more. For example, i would like to see you bet for thin value with your top pair hands on all streets. Alot of people will call you with middle pair and weaker top pair hands and all draws. Your going to make a good chunk of your profit with top pair, just something to think about.
Thanks for subbing & for the advice
You have a lot to learn bud. You play like a old man coffee
Lol thanks. Sometimes yes
Your 6s should have won
I can do without that jingle looping over and over again.
Haha ok...was kinda loud. Didn’t realize how loud till it was live. When I was doing it didn’t seem that bad
The first hand in this video, you won with QQ 66 villain has QQ 55
I know I know
Tony
I beg you just watch your videos before you post them. The K6 hand you were SB. You had a pair of 6s you said you lost to a pair of 5s. A win is a win for you congrats on the $109 win. Can't wait for the rest of the Vegas trip.
Neat trick for 6s to lose to 5s....
keep grinding out that rent money chief
Imagine how much more enjoyable the game would be if you took some lessons and started making about $25 an hour playing...... just saying.
Kenny, check your notes, 2nd hand of the vlog, your 6 should have won?
Also, your vlog has you betting out before a player in the blinds?
Bet sizing still is an issue, $5 bets are home game carry over.
On the Jacks full flop, sitting on the 2nd nuts too 4 8s, never raise the flop! What are you afraid of? No need to announce your hand until the river, thats more of a rockie's mistake, and you should know better.
Hope the rest of your trip goes great for you 🤙
With 6 players in the pot and as the preflop raiser with less than a pot sized bet after the BB donk leads, shoving is fine. Assuming he just calls, the crazy villian with an 8 is going to raise everyone out regardelss. Let's assume all 5 players call. Now a scare card comes like a flush. The BB is not going to bet into 5 people again unless he has a boat or flush. Therefore if you allow him to check, then you check, only someone with a nutted hand will try to bet. Assuming the Villian didnt have an 8 he will most likely check and it will check through. Now the river comes, BB checks and you now bet all in. Whos going to call and with what hands are you targeting that didnt bet the turn or raise the flop.? What hands are the BB going to bet into everyone with on the flop or turn that he wont call a $70 shove right now? By shoving you are balancing you flush draws and over pairs in this spot. If it was heads up or 3 players then you could probably just flat flop and raise turn. But again. its highly unlikely that if all 5 players call, that the BB will again bet on turn into 5 people unless he had a nutted hand. And if he did have a nutted hand then he's calling your jam on the flop even though the crazy guy called too because he still has equity vs him in a side pot.
@@hattershouse710 but why give anyone who thinks they are trapping with an 8, or a big flush draw a chance to nitt 8t up and fold. Like I said, the only hand Tony is losing too is pocket 8s, so call the flop, let anyone in on the flush draws and holding an 8. Let one of them shove if they want too. Hopefully the flush comes in on the turn, or anyone holding an 8 will hit their kicker 9n the turn. Just no need to push the action there on the flop in my opinion. More money to be made by allowing someone to come in as cheap as possible when the flop hits you that hard. If someone has pocket 8s so be it, they aren't going to shove until the river anyway. When you flop the top full house, you've got to give anyone drawing the pot odds to call and come along.
If someone else then shoves, then great, but I would've just called hitting that flop as hard as he did, and waiting to shove until the river, you want as many people to see the river card as possible in this case. Again, my opinion, and how I would have played it.
@@mikemckeon8976 Bro, this is low stakes. They called a 12 raise. If they actually had a flush draw or an 8 they would call as the villain did. By your logic, if they were nitting it up they wouldn't call a $12 raise and then lead out $25 just to fold for $70 more when there is now over $300 in the pot when the hero goes all in and gets one caller. Go back to my question. What hands are the BB leading $25 with into 5 people that he will continue to do on the turn if all 5 people just call? Not very many. Now assuming someone even had a flush draw or an 8 do you really think they would fold to this shove? I mean seriously. The main caviat with this hand is chip stack size. The hero doesn't have enough chips to play this as just a call 6 ways on the flop. Unless he flopped quads. If you wait until the river you will lose value if a flush comes because obviously no one had that draw. Even people with an 8 might fold at that point and there is no guarantee that it wouldn't get checked through on the turn. Again you would lose value there too.
@@mikemckeon8976 this would make sense if it was heads up or with three players and the hero had more money behind. When you raise pre-flop and you get five callers then you get donk led into and you have less than a pot size bet it makes sense to shove even if you have top full house. The reason why is this protects your shoving range when you have an over pair or flush draw yourself. If you had one of those hands you would shove wouldn’t you? Or would you just call the $25 Donk lead. You are assuming that someone would not call a flush draw for $90? Or call $90 with an 8? Cmon bro. If any one of those players had a flush draw they would call. Or if they had an 8 they would call. Obviously none of the players had anything so what makes you think they would hit a hand that doesnt have an 8 in it and call an all in on the turn or river? What hands are calling 25 5 ways then calling a shove and a call from the crazy player with 87?
@@hattershouse710 I'm just saying to call the the donk bet, to try and keep others in the hand, of course he's shoving on anyone else's raise. The guy behind with 87 acted like he was just calling per what Kenny reported. I know its low stacks, and folks do weird things. But when you flop the nuts or 2nd nuts with multiple people to act, I try to keep their money in the hand and not push them out. If he called, and 87 guy called, maybe one more might have called or raised putting another $25 into the pot. Then on turn, 1st to act might bet/shove his draw, Kenny calls off his stack, and 87 guy calls and maybe even anyone else left in hand. Again its low stakes, which is what I normally play, and have witnessed many of multi way all ins.
Again, just my thoughts, he won, but didn't get the chance to triple or quad up.
How can you lose to a pair of fives when you have pair of sixes ,, boy do I want to play with you. I be glad to tell you what to do
Your bet sizing and timing up and down and extremely erratic.
Good take & I’ll agree
How you lose u had Q 6 HE HAD Q 5
Mis-edit. He actually had trip 5’s
$5.00 tip smh 🤦♂️
These dealers were out of work for 5 months. I take care of my people
Second u lose to a pair of 5 and u had sixes 😂
Mistake in editing by me He had 3-5’s
Dude you are horrible at poker vlogs. A5vsK6 with a Q965Q board and he wins???
Haha thanks...as previously stated 10 times...it was a mis-edit. thanks for watching