Something that I remember ( it’s years ago I read it) is that we don’t evaluate a technology before we implement it. And how tv changed lives, made people stop conversing and passing down stories, made them dissatisfied with their lives in comparison with what tv presented. When tv went digital, I didn’t switch. I just didn’t ever buy another. I should read that book again.
I have not re-read it yet, I found that I've been saying it and mentioning the book a lot to people ... so I need to take my own advice. I think you stating re-reading brought out more ... I would have to say too, there is an advancement of the "influence" via the Internet and they got us clicking this or that ... those "actions" seem to me would re-enforce their intents of manipulation ... Jerry Jeff Walker .. throw away the TV! He said that it causes fight or flight syndrome ... there is a book from TX "Voltage is Healing" or something. It said that during such a state our cells close off and refuse nutrition and so on and the body wants to fight for safety type of thing. So watching could harm the immune system ... I know this sounds nutty but ....
Thanks for watching and thanks for your comment. I agree - the internet and social media have only amplified the effects of tv, not reduced the effects. Perhaps you or I needs to write a book entitled, "Four arguments for the elimination of the internet." Would be useful to humanity but no doubt ignored!
Mona Lisa is more interesting in documentary, believe me. lol And Trump understand that very much: what he say is not important, but what you see, it is. And he is a master at playing that game.
Hi can I ask you something. If I watch TV for interesting movies and series with good plot and characters like Avatar and Gravity falls, is it bad or terrible? If I watch TV for series in moderation isn't bad?
its not bad. But be critical of the information you get from those series or movies. Usually, series shows you a representation of life, often, a rich life that most of us would never reach...and make you feel shityy in the way
the problem with social media, its the news and tv information who goes into it. If you don't check the news, you won't comment on it...and nobody would comments your comment. Think about it. Usually, you don't fight with your friends over a picture of their breakfast.
My solution to some of the issues in his brilliant book is to only watch the very finest 2 or 3% of television or classic films via TV, such as 'Bilko', 'The Twilight Zone', MASH, Seinfeld, Upstairs, Downstairs, Hill Street Blues, Breaking Bad, The Wire, and many of the films on the AFI and BFI greatest film list, ect, ect, the cream of the crop. No news, soaps, "reality TV". Play music, read books, go through some of the classic radio shows. And for everything that you watch, write down the plot, how it made you feel, what the intent was, and themes within it. Also, don't let the kids watch anything unless it's vetted and scheduled for all the family. Television, like the movies, at it's best is an art form and during it's Golden Age, allowed for empathy with other cultures, eras and classes (such as Rod Serling's classic 'Requiem for a Heavyweight'). I'd love to hear Jerry Mander's views on how the ability the pause and rewatch a program has changed, if at all, the viewing experience, since his book was written in 1978.
@@turborunner7859 He is not wrong about film or tv shows being a potential media for artistic expression, which is something Jerry Mander does not explore in his book
@@O-revisor Watching 500 hours of television isn't a solution to his problem though. The internet at first solved argument 1, but over time, the elites have slowly centralized it and restricted speech. It's made the advertizing argument worse, because now they can collect data on users to target more effective ads towards them. It has all this information, but is shallow so it only informs and doesn't lead to understanding. There's also the fact that there is video within the internet, which rots the mind and reduces imagination all the same, in the form of Netflix and RUclips. The real and only solution is to ban both in all countries.
@@turborunner7859 I thought his arguments regarding health issues from watching TV were outdated. Even within the book, the evidence from light effects and "hypnosis" were not sufficient to being held as conclusive. And after 40 years since the book was published, we still haven't heard new evidence that supports his old hypothesis. I would also say TV doesn't affect imagination, but that's dependant on each person.
@@O-revisor Only drones do not hold them as conclusive, there was nothing wrong with the original experiments and their evidence stands. I'm sure there is niche study out there, but regardless reality doesn't depend on whom wants to study it. When you watch television, you don't use your imagination to picture what happens like with books. Unless you read more fiction than you watch, these faculties will slowly wither and imagination become hampered.
Something that I remember ( it’s years ago I read it) is that we don’t evaluate a technology before we implement it.
And how tv changed lives, made people stop conversing and passing down stories, made them dissatisfied with their lives in comparison with what tv presented.
When tv went digital, I didn’t switch. I just didn’t ever buy another.
I should read that book again.
Another great thing to read is Neil Postman's works _Amusing Ourselves to Death_ and _The Disappearance of Childhood._
Thank you for the great review. I proudly have not owned a TV set since 2004. I am glad to hear that my choice was the right one!
Very well said I have that book and I can't imagine how much Jerry fathomed how much things have changed today.
Thanks for watching! Thank you for your comment. It is amazing to me that his perspective so many years ago is evermore true now.
@@jmarkpoolmd Yes it is
I have not re-read it yet, I found that I've been saying it and mentioning the book a lot to people ... so I need to take my own advice. I think you stating re-reading brought out more ... I would have to say too, there is an advancement of the "influence" via the Internet and they got us clicking this or that ... those "actions" seem to me would re-enforce their intents of manipulation ... Jerry Jeff Walker .. throw away the TV! He said that it causes fight or flight syndrome ... there is a book from TX "Voltage is Healing" or something. It said that during such a state our cells close off and refuse nutrition and so on and the body wants to fight for safety type of thing. So watching could harm the immune system ... I know this sounds nutty but ....
Thanks for watching and thanks for your comment.
I agree - the internet and social media have only amplified the effects of tv, not reduced the effects.
Perhaps you or I needs to write a book entitled, "Four arguments for the elimination of the internet." Would be useful to humanity but no doubt ignored!
I threw my television out in 2019 , I bought my TV in 2014 but I didn't use it much since I was in college.
I’ve been looking for insight on this! Thanks
That's an excellent book .
What about Bob Newhart? I like him. 😊
Mona Lisa is more interesting in documentary, believe me. lol
And Trump understand that very much: what he say is not important, but what you see, it is.
And he is a master at playing that game.
i think we need home slide shows
Hi can I ask you something. If I watch TV for interesting movies and series with good plot and characters like Avatar and Gravity falls, is it bad or terrible? If I watch TV for series in moderation isn't bad?
its not bad. But be critical of the information you get from those series or movies. Usually, series shows you a representation of life, often, a rich life that most of us would never reach...and make you feel shityy in the way
I think social media its more dangers than TV, We need to destroyed the Social Media
the problem with social media, its the news and tv information who goes into it. If you don't check the news, you won't comment on it...and nobody would comments your comment. Think about it. Usually, you don't fight with your friends over a picture of their breakfast.
My solution to some of the issues in his brilliant book is to only watch the very finest 2 or 3% of television or classic films via TV, such as 'Bilko', 'The Twilight Zone', MASH, Seinfeld, Upstairs, Downstairs, Hill Street Blues, Breaking Bad, The Wire, and many of the films on the AFI and BFI greatest film list, ect, ect, the cream of the crop. No news, soaps, "reality TV". Play music, read books, go through some of the classic radio shows. And for everything that you watch, write down the plot, how it made you feel, what the intent was, and themes within it. Also, don't let the kids watch anything unless it's vetted and scheduled for all the family. Television, like the movies, at it's best is an art form and during it's Golden Age, allowed for empathy with other cultures, eras and classes (such as Rod Serling's classic 'Requiem for a Heavyweight'). I'd love to hear Jerry Mander's views on how the ability the pause and rewatch a program has changed, if at all, the viewing experience, since his book was written in 1978.
This is really idiotic and missing the point. Also is an overglorification of media.
@@turborunner7859 He is not wrong about film or tv shows being a potential media for artistic expression, which is something Jerry Mander does not explore in his book
@@O-revisor Watching 500 hours of television isn't a solution to his problem though. The internet at first solved argument 1, but over time, the elites have slowly centralized it and restricted speech. It's made the advertizing argument worse, because now they can collect data on users to target more effective ads towards them. It has all this information, but is shallow so it only informs and doesn't lead to understanding. There's also the fact that there is video within the internet, which rots the mind and reduces imagination all the same, in the form of Netflix and RUclips. The real and only solution is to ban both in all countries.
@@turborunner7859 I thought his arguments regarding health issues from watching TV were outdated. Even within the book, the evidence from light effects and "hypnosis" were not sufficient to being held as conclusive.
And after 40 years since the book was published, we still haven't heard new evidence that supports his old hypothesis.
I would also say TV doesn't affect imagination, but that's dependant on each person.
@@O-revisor Only drones do not hold them as conclusive, there was nothing wrong with the original experiments and their evidence stands. I'm sure there is niche study out there, but regardless reality doesn't depend on whom wants to study it. When you watch television, you don't use your imagination to picture what happens like with books. Unless you read more fiction than you watch, these faculties will slowly wither and imagination become hampered.