CNN: NEW RFK ASSASSINATION RECORDING!!!
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- 4/16/2008
A previously unknown audio tape, recently uncovered, reveals that Sirhan Sirhan did not act alone in the June 1968 assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy.
In this video, you will hear the sounds of the actual RFK assassination during a two-minute excerpt from the Pruszynski recording, the only known tape of the Bobby Kennedy shooting. The audio recording was made by freelance newspaper reporter Stanislaw Pruszynski, a Polish journalist covering the RFK presidential campaign for Canadian newspapers.
In this video, CNN International anchor Adrian Finighan in London interviews forensic experts Robert J. Joling and Philip Van Praag in Tucson, Arizona about the Pruszynski recording, which was uncovered by an American journalist in 2004 and examined extensively by Van Praag beginning in 2005.
Van Praag and Joling say the tape shows that in addition to convicted gunman Sirhan, there was a second, hidden gunman in the Ambassador Hotel kitchen pantry who also was firing at RFK. In fact, they say the recording along with other forensic evidence proves that none of Sirhan's bullets hit Kennedy. They say the Democratic presidential candidate was shot by the second unknown gunman and not by Sirhan, who is the only person ever to have been arrested, tried, convicted and sentenced for the assassination.
Joling and Van Praag say all eight bullets fired by Sirhan missed Bobby Kennedy and instead hit bystanders and woodwork inside the kitchen pantry and inside another area near the pantry. They say that RFK was struck four times (with three bullets entering his body and one passing through his clothing) and that all four Kennedy bullets were fired from extremely close range immediately behind the Senator by someone else other than Sirhan, who was several feet to Kennedy's front and never got behind RFK.
According to Van Praag and Joling, the Pruszynski recording reveals that at the moment of the RFK shooting in the hotel kitchen pantry, at least 13 shots were fired: five more bullets fired than Sirhan alone could have fired with his single eight-shot revolver and which he had no opportunity to reload in the pantry. In addition, the experts say the recording also reveals two sets of "double shots": shots fired too closely together to have come from the same gun.
Finally, they say, the Pruszynski recording reveals that the second gunman (RFK's real killer, they believe) likely was firing a .22 caliber 9-shot H&R 922 handgun at the same time that Sirhan was firing his .22 caliber 8-shot Iver Johnson Cadet 55 handgun. They say the hidden H&R weapon fired at least five shots from the rear while Sirhan fired all eight of his Iver Johnson's bullets from in front. They say Sirhan only had a free hand during his first two shots: that the first two shots Sirhan fired missed Senator Kennedy and Sirhan's last six shots were fired wildly while he was being grabbed by several people in the pantry. They say only the second gunman had a clear shot at RFK and was able to quickly fire his bullets into Kennedy from behind, unseen by most witnesses because all attention in the pantry had shifted to Sirhan and his gun.
Robert Kennedy and five other people were shot at the Ambassador in Los Angeles at 12:16 AM on June 5, 1968 only moments after the New York Senator had claimed victory in the June 4th California Democratic Presidential Primary. It was the third major American assassination of the 1960s, occurring 4 1/2 years after the assassination of RFK's brother, U.S. President John F. Kennedy.
Phil Van Praag and Bob Joling presented their RFK assassination findings before the annual meeting of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences in Washington D.C. on February 21, 2008. On March 25, 2008, they likewise presented their findings in Ledyard, Connecticut before hundreds of forensic experts attending the annual Markle Symposium, sponsored by the Henry C. Lee Institute of Forensic Science. They've done a number of TV, radio, internet and print interviews since. Earlier, on June 6, 2007, the Discovery Times Channel premiered the television documentary, "Conspiracy Test: The RFK Assassination" which featured Van Praag, Joling, Stanislaw Pruszynski of Warsaw, Poland and other notables as the program focused in detail on Van Praag's Pruszynski recording findings. Also featured in "Conspiracy Test" was shooting victim Paul Schrade of Los Angeles who is currently spearheading efforts to reopen the RFK assassination case at the local, state or federal level, based in large part on the late-breaking revelations from the Pruszynski recording.
The original CNN International segment was aired on television on April 16, 2008.
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Its amazing to me that RFK was Not more scrupulous about security considering the obvious risk of assassination.
Rest In Peace Robert Francis Kennedy Your Memory Will Never Die
Joseph Henry dead men tell no tales.
Dgware
How do you explain the fact the official autopsy stated he was shot in the back at close range and all the testimony from witnesses and reporters said Sirhan was in front of RFK? Think outside the box and don't believe everything your told. Research the facts for yourself. Not the report that was told to everyone. Push yourself to be self educated, not persuaded.
For those of you who haven't done so, I suggest you research Eugene Thane Cesar, the security guard who was immediately to the right and behind RFK as he moved through the pantry. There are numerous witnesses, and the testimony of Cesar himself, that he had drawn his gun, fallen backward, and "possibly" fired. Think about it. The shots came from behind in an upwards position. Sirhan was never in such a position. Do your homework, and come up with your own conclusions regarding the triggerman.
Other than that whole “witnesses thing”. A Muslim immigrant murdered RFK. Conspiracy theorists are all alike. Blame a white Republican. One way or another.
One thing that is not talked about in this case is Coroner Thomas Noguchi's finding that the head shot was at point blank range and coupled with the fact that all of the witnesses said that Sirhan was always in front of RFK and no closer than 3 to 5 feet. And here's my point. Because of this undeniable position of Sirhan the powers that be forced Noguchi to step down because his assertion didn't fit. He stuck to his guns and was eventually reinstated. RFK/JFK listen to the doctors.
Shortly after the Kennedy shooting, Noguchi came under scrutiny and resigned under pressure as Chief Medical Examiner after Deputy Los Angeles County Counsel Martin Weekes testified that he had seen a smiling Noguchi dancing in his office and that Noguchi had announced to associates "I am going to be famous. I hope he dies" - Source: UPI.
A secretary in the coroner's office also testified she had heard Noguchi say he wanted to perform a vivisection on Lin Hollinger, the county's chief administrative officer with whom he had argued over budget matters.
Second term as CME and demotion..
Shortly after signing his letter of resignation, Noguchi attempted to withdraw it, a move that was rejected by the Board of Supervisors. Noguchi's wife subsequently charged that the county had forced him out as a practice of racial discrimination. The county rebutted the accusation by accusing Noguchi himself of being racist, providing testimony from an Asian-American employee in the CME office who said she had heard Noguchi saying he hated Jews and using a racial epithet to describe Black Americans.
In his second term, Noguchi was accused of speaking too freely to the media, particularly following the November 1981 deaths of William Holden and Natalie Wood, which, along with his moonlighting and alleged mismanagement - a series of articles in the Los Angeles Times alleged that Noguchi's attention to celebrity deaths was causing problems in the more mundane aspects of the CME office - led to his demotion from coroner to physician specialist in 1982.
the woman in polkadot dress and man ran away excited we got him .and the witness who said she saw heard them was hounded to retract her evidence by the c i a why .???
People forget that Kennedy could've spun around as Sirhan was firing. Also,Rafer Johnson,Rosey Grier etc got ahold of Sirhan as with the gun in his hand as he was still pressing the trigger.
so much tragedy in that family.horrible and heartbreaking.so hard to watch
Payback for how many poor people Joe Kennedy screwed for his money.
From Wikipedia: "In 2007, analysis of an audio recording of the shooting taken by freelance reporter Stanislaw Pruszynski appeared to indicate, according to forensic expert Philip van Praag, that thirteen shots were fired, even though Sirhan's gun held only eight rounds. While this would strongly indicate a second gunman, independent analysis by other experts indicated that there are only eight shots recorded on the tape."
RIP RFK
The Pruszynski recording means nothing. If you listen to Andrew West's recording at the time the shots occurred, you hear lots of banging on the steamer tables surrounding the crime area in the chaos that followed that could also be confused for shots as well... but they are not. Also, if you watch the ABC broadcast of the event as it happened (here on YT) an officer with LAPD interviewed about a half hour after the shooting demonstrates Kennedy's position when he was shot according to witnesses at the scene (very fresh testimony, obviously.) Kennedy turned his fully body around to shake hands with Juan Romero, and in that position exposed the back of his head to Sirhan, who was standing right in front of him.
That would mean that Sirhan shot Robert Kennedy in the head beneath his right ear with an armed security officer standing next to him. Thane Eugene Cesar was flanked on Robert Kennedy's rear right side. You're saying that Sirhan stood next to Security Officer Cesar and shot Senator Kennedy. Want proof that a security officer was there? There are videos and photos on RUclips of Kennedy laying prone on the floor after he was shot. Next to him is Thane Eugene Cesar's clip-on tie.
@@MrAmbassador11 Dan Moldea, who wrote a book on the assassination, interviewed Cesar and it went as follows when RFK entered the hotel kitchen:
CESAR: I'm pushing people back like this, and we're walking, telling them to get back so we could walk through. It was the reporters is what it was.
MOLDEA: And then Kennedy pulled away.
CESAR: He turned to shake hands with the busboy.
MOLDEA: Sirhan emerges, do you see Sirhan?
CESAR: No. I’ve never seen him. The only thing I’d ever seen was the flash, the flashes of the gun going off. I never saw Sirhan with the gun, but I did see how Senator Kennedy reacted to the shooting. He turned completely sideways so that his side of his neck was facing almost perpendicular to the gunshots.
At his 2011 parole hearing Sirhan admitted his involvement in the assassination. Very possible there was someone else involved but Sirhan is no longer denying his involvement. Watch it on RUclips
Because you are never patrolled unless you admit guilt. And of course he was involved in the sense he was there and fired shots albeit he was hypnotised and sedated at the time.
These guys were sent to "muddy the waters". Anybody ever investigate RFK's armed Security Guard who had RFK by the right arm while walking through that kitchen pantry?
It's interesting that the book upon which the report was based seems to have virtually disappeared. There is one used paperback copy on Amazon for $350.00. That was all I could find.
What are the chances... that a lone gunman nobody... would be lucky enough to get anywhere close to RFK in that huge crowd... Let alone point blank range?
The moral of the story is that regardless of family power...there’s a more powerful force out there.
*The Mayor is basically the boss of the Chief of police. The Chief of police, is basically the boss of all of LAPD. Interesting that the Mayor, "Suitcase Sam Yorty", sent a message that made it's way directly to RFK that basically asked that RFK end what he was doing. Which in turn, sent RFK directly to the kitchen, where in turn he was killed. Then people suggest a cover up by the LAPD? Who takes their orders from the Chief of police, who takes his orders from the Mayor.*
*See where I'm going with this......?*
What's with the bullets? Were there no ballistic investigations?
Thanks, Bowwow. However, I misstated Cesar's name in the previous post. It should be Thane Eugene Cesar (dyslexic moment, I guess).
He admitted at the time of the assasination that he was no fan of either JFK or RFK because they had given everything, including our country, to the minorities with their civil rights push.Cesar now lives in the Philippines.Hmmmmmm......
The Kennedies were killed because they were against war.
Believe--Mossad was involved
@@oneblueorange Yup, the secret service agent shot JFK 🙏 from the car behind them. There's an excellent video on that
Such a shame !
the killer still alive, WTF, 76 y.o.
after the initial shot i hear what sounds like the repeated fire of at least 2 guns - there's a point where the shots are way to close and sound wya too different to be from the same firearm
Ialso heard some idiot say "wow"
Yeah, and I've got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.
While listening to this, I thought they said "Brezenzski", as in Zbiginew. I thought, "Jesus, that guy is everywhere!" But, then I saw it was "Prusynski".
I'm everywhere, Focker.
Philip Harrison and Professor Peter French of York University - (It should be noted that Harrison and French are ACOUSTICS scientists - Van Praag is an audio engineer - they are totally different areas of science). Additionally, Robert Joling is NOT an acoustics expert - his role was simply in presenting his research into the ballistics evidence. His work was examined many years ago by leading forensics experts and found to be in error.
I have a old reel to reel of this on tape..... worht anything?
5:16 The Gunshots.
Why is this in B/W?? I remember watching it as it happened in my parents house as a 13 year old in color, switching between CBS & NBC.
Your memory is accurate: CBS & NBC broadcast RFK's speech in color, while ABC aired his speech in b&w.
The key phrase is "other experts". To take an example, if 99 experts say one thing and 1 says another, I would strongly favor the 99.
Gun in the Super 8 camera.
In the audio I hear the gunshots and did they say they can't?
Yep 3 very close together, then over 5 shot's evenly spaced apart, so Security guard behind rfk shot hit in the head & then a few more as he brought down the gun, which then Siran Siran's bullet hit other's but not 1 hit rfk ? WHAT GET'S ME IS THIS, JFK GET SHOT IN A STREET LIKE A DOG, THE INVESTIGATION MAKE'S IT LOOK LIKE A LN DID IT, THEN RFK GET'S SHOT, YET THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SIT & EAT TV DINNERS & BE CONSUMERS, BUT DON'T CARE AS LONG AS THEY HAVE A JOB THAT'S IT FOLK'S, BUT IF THEY DID CARE THEN NOT ONLY THEY WOULD HAVE A JOB, BUT THE RICH IN AMERICA WOULD HAVE TO PAY MORE OUT,DUE TO THE KIDS THAT R LOOKING FOR FOR WORK CAN GET WORK, IF ONLY JFK/MLK/RFK WERE NOT KILLED ?
Think a few stray bullets were flying around either from RFK’s personal bodyguards or cops trying to kill Sirhain immediately afterwards to prevent him from shooting any further bullets although he had used up his eight (they didn’t know that at the time). What interests me more is that Robert was not due to go through the kitchen area after his speech but to another room before his press conference. So why was that changed and one of RFK’s staff that decided that or was he ‘ instructed’ to inform him to tell Robert of the change of plan, if so by whom? The bullets don’t match all 13 no because either a cop or a personal body guard was firing the others to try and stop Sirhain in his tracks in my opinion. Hypnotised probably. Can’t show remorse at his parole hearings as he cannot recall those specific events of shooting RFK.
Guys were squealing too.
thats the debunkers answer to anyone who doesnt toe the official line in these assasination cses (JFK, RFK ,MLK).
You question their motives (those who bring info) and not the "powers that be"
Anybody who believes Sirhan.. Sirhan was the lone gunman then as the expression goes "I have a bridge I want to....."
1:15 Other than Sirhan...2:00 from behind 2:30 9-13 bullets. Sirhan revolver only had 8. 4:14 Pruzinski recording
Thane Eugene Cesar the security guard shot him - in the famous photos the tie on the ground is his - Bobby pulled it off to send a message. Cesar also worked for Nixon - A Cast of Killers to make sure the murder of JFK would not be investigated amongst other stuff Bobby was going to do (like bring the boys home)
ABC coverage talked about a second man in black that was covering something and pushing his way out.
My left ear is really sad!
We should all be ashamed--you heartless right wing fuc---!
The sad thing know one cared
This is not the first time a diversion has been used to take the focus away from the real shooter. Shot or shots from above and then a rifle is found on the 6th floor. A bundle left outside a Memphis boarding house that had a rear window that faced the hotel where MLK Jr. was staying. It is not beyond the real of possibility.
But where is the real birth certicate ?
but,but,,,,,,,,,e-mails
William Harvey ZR Rifle Squad.
Even catching him red handed on the spot, with people crowded around, is not good enough for some.
No one noticed another gunman, and did you see how very very close packed everyone was.
And perhaps the place was so full because it was packed with undercover CIA agents to block sight of the real killer, while allowing the patsy to be caught? See, no matter what evidence you have, wacky conspirators will always have some explanation for it, and there will always be a few guys who know better but want to make a few bucks selling books to all these loonies.
@@lsmart But only the right wing Cesar had another 22 cal. gun!
Why do women squeal? What good did that do the situation?
I'm pretty sure the hotel pantry had a window, and outside, there was a GRASSY KNOLL!
Very good video
why is youtube pushing videos of the RFK assasination?
RUclips knows a CIA plot when they see one!
@@haroldbrown5308 yes and youtube is an extension of them, so what gives?
Walter Karlsson,was behind Robert,Swedish Policeman
Nothing new here! All this was known in 1968! The coverup started immediately after RFK died!
The loan gunman epidemic goes on !
I've been informed that apparently he never said it... at least there's no proof he said it. By proof I mean it's not on tape. Just google the quote.
I believe it was Cesar!!!!!!!
There was no Conspiracy
Wrong. I care for one.
Roosevelt Greer was in position to shoot Bobby...did he? Idk. Find the footage and watch very carefully.
@dgware
Definitely right!
Like it took 40 years for this too come out!!.......give me a break!!
We still don't know about JFK in 1963--there-you just got your break!!!!
Look at the proving BBC videos...
Hot mess
SIRHAN BISHARA SIRHAN IS SCOOTER BRAUN(QUSAY HUSSEIN) JEFREY DAHMER HE IS NOT THE ONLY SHOOTERS THERE ARE SHOOTERS
Tragic loss for America, a good man, would have been a force for good , no doubt.
In the recent news broadcasts, Robert Joling repeats the myth that Sirhan never had a chance to shoot RFK in the back of the head. However, witnesses DiPierro, Romero, Plimpton, Urso and Yaro actually SAW RFK turn to his left to shake hands with Juan Romero and they all actually SAW Sirhan put the gun to the right rear side of RFKs head and shoot. Van Praags analysis has been proven to be flawed by the ONLY acoustics experts who have examined the tape in any great detail -
Love that CNN refuses to call Sirhan Sirhan a Palestinian...
Figures these "experts" just happen to be selling a book.
Not one lucid comment. What happened to all the critical thinkers. I didn't think people have critical thinking skills anymore. They believe something and that makes it a fact. I guess giving a monster act a monster plot help people take it all in. It's also a good way to make money. People don't want to accept how random life actually is. It's random for the rich and powerful the poor and the weak.
It is spooky how easy it is to assassinate public figures in the USA. No matter how powerful a position, this is an open society so our officials are always a bit too exposed. It is shocking, it is heartbreaking, and it always seems so impossible that such a powerful figure could be shot by a "nobody". People almost crave to hear or see more elaborate scenarios, because it seems saner. But the insane reality is, it's too easy to kill a President or a Presidential candidate. It's terrifying but it's true.
Sirhan did fire the fatal shot. Bobby saw the deluded gunman coming at him, and turned into a defensive position. He stopped, but the crowd behind him didn't, and pushed his security into himself and was slammed into the Kitchen Pantry table. Sirhan's gun was 1-2ft. BEHIND Kennedy. Sirhan was a lone gunman, hired by the C.I.A. The CIA probably did this because they knew Kennedy was a threat and would probably do everything Jack was going to do in 1963-1964.
Only Cesar had another 22 cal gun in that gally.
Bomb
Who was the un named man in only position for back of head shots. ? Rosey Grier. ? Is he the one that had Kennedy by the arm. ?
No, not Rosey Grier. A security officer was the right rear of Robert Kennedy.
No, the German American MD and the guard hired be Mayor of LA ,Cesar had the same cal 22 gun as Sirhan. Strange he had a 22 Cal gun;just like Shirhan!
There wasn't 13 shots. but there were more than 8. Sirhan just kept firing until he ran out of bullets, he was in front of Senator Kennedy.
Think about it, .......it's
Cesar had the 2nd 22 cal gun--read his interview--he was a right wing nut hired by Mayor Yorty!
But All i hear is 3 I'm 12
Or did you hear 12 and you're 3.
Leroy O. Jackson That's still older than you because your still in the womb
No wonder the gunshots were so muffled.
Leroy O. Jackson ?
I think you were trying to insult me in response to what you perceived as an insult.
They were running train on Maryland Monroe.
You mean the woman who couldn't act?
Once again, what you are claiming is NOT fact, but a theory based on slim 'evidence (and I use the term loosely)>
wow, that was worthless...well it is cnn...so...
Would have been better on Fox--NOT!
Why is that relevant?
Not that old chestnut AGAIN - look at the evidence first. Another loan nut was it...
Read the Cesar interview--you are not informed!
Ah, the idiocy of conspiracy theorists!
That possible and very likely Kennedy dynasty terrified the powers that be. A very real 16 years of a JFK/RFK presidency over a short span. Ted Kennedy's reputation hadn't been ruined yet so I think some people were fearing a 24 year Kennedy dynasty. Even if they didn't follow each other directly I do believe RFK would of eventually been president. The Bush's are what the Kennedy's should have been if not much better. I think those Kennedy boys were damn good men and good people. Definitely flawed just like everyone but they were genuinely good people who wanted to do the right thing.
HOGWASH! why do they come up with this horse shit?