Rome's Challenge
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Do you stand upon Sola Scriptura? The Reformers declared that the Bible and the Bible alone was the rule of faith. By contrast, Rome has always maintained that both Scripture and tradition are the standard of faith.
Five hundred years ago Rome issued a fair challenge to the battle cry of 'Sola Scriptura'. Sadly, this challenge has been unanswered by the majority of those who call themselves Protestant.
Will you answer it?
Excellent production. Wonderful truth. Much needed today for all those seeking Christ and the special blessing that falls on the true Sabbath. Bless you all for this effort.
Thank you for this shirt film brother Chris. It is a good reminder of the enemy we face and the tactics it always employs. Praise God for the light of truth in His word. God bless and love to all.
“The priest were frauds and robbers of the people” + “Roam had not built her house upon Solid Rock but upon a mountain of human tradition” Well said. 🕊️
Nice work bro
Thank You Chris! Looks like you traveled to New Zealand for this production, Beautiful!
No matter what persecution we face for his name, we are saved by Jesus!
Can you do a video on HOW one can keep the Sabbath day holy? What that looks like? I desire to honor and worship God correctly, but coming out of a cult recently, i question HOW...
It's great to hear of this desire God has put in your heart. The principles of Sabbath keeping are laid out in Isaiah 58:
Isaiah 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
Isaiah 58:14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it
Feel free to contact me via the website if you have questions in regards to the more practical aspects of Sabbath keeping. I would be happy to help. www.earthenvessels.org.au/contact-us
God bless.
M9st of the protestant world are the break away catholics since most of us don't keep the 7th day sabbath
That's one way to put it
Act 20:7 And upon the FIRST DAY of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
Question please, is your church a 7th day church?
I don't think you are, but I'd like to know for sure.
*_God Bless_*
Yes it is
Yes, we keep the Seventh-day Sabbath each week. The seventh day is the memorial of what God created on the six preceding days. They are just as literal and true, as the Seventh day is. Blessings to you also.
@@tompinto8692 Thank you.
Love this channel by the way.
One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not....Rom.14.5,Rom.14.6NKJV
But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and useless. Reject a divisive man after the first and second admonition, knowing that such a person is warped and sinning, being self-condemned.
Titus.3.9,Titus.3.10,Titus.3.11NKJV
Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
@@earthenvesselsministry The disciple “hungers and thirsts” for righteousness, the underlying essence of the law, because God’s spirit in him loves righteousness. He no longer needs the law because the law of love is written on his heart. When Jesus said, “it’s not what goes into the mouth that defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man” he was revealing this truth. This knowledge of righteousness is understood by the believer because the Spirit makes it known. If you are trying to keep the written law, you will be judged by that law. Some might suggest Paul seems to contradict himself, but this is not the case. He is attempting to articulate spiritual understanding with temporal words. This is why Jesus always described the kingdom as being “ like” something; temporal words were unable to adequately describe the spiritual reality He wanted to convey. Man will forever have a desire to do something in an attempt to earn God’s favor, regardless of what one says he believes about grace alone. By grace we become slaves to righteousness; attempting to keep the law enslaves us in perpetual failure.
@@throwingpearls4601 Jesus said he hates doctrine of the Nicolaitans, who according to the church fathers boasted about how they had some spiritual liberty to live in sin. This obscure philosophy you are posting here is the same thing the gnostics were pushing in the days of the apostles. They even saw sin as virtuous. If you aren't saying we have the liberty to live in sin, then why are you against the keeping of the law?
God's commandments are the definition of righteousness (Psalm 119:172). Therefore, any righteous person will consent to and keep God's commandments. The 10 commandments are 'the law of love'. If you love your neighbour, you wont kill him. If you love God, you wont worship other Gods, you will obey His appointed rest day etc.
If you were caught stealing, and argued to the magistrate 'But I don't try to keep the written law of this land'. Would he say 'oh that's fine, you may go free'? I doubt he would even answer you due to how ludicrous such an excuse is. But according to many professed Christians, a similar excuse will be accepted by God for the breakers of His law, which is 100 times more ludicrous.
Today folks have all kind of philosophical excuses for why they don't need to keep this or that commandment of the 10. But in the judgement, God is going to demand an answer from them as to why they rejected His law, and all such will be speechless. After that the awful words will be spoken by Jesus against them:
'And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity' (Matthew 7:23)
@@earthenvesselsministrywhere in "slave to righteousness" are you getting a justification for sin?
And I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why do I still suffer persecution? Then the offense of the cross has ceased. I could wish that those who trouble you would even cut themselves off! For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
Gal.5.11,Gal.5.12,Gal.5.13,Gal.5.14NKJV
My friend, I love the work you've done on biblical cosmology and exposure of Rome's deceptions, but it ends there. The law is perfect, righteous, and good, but it is also a burdensome yoke; it's purpose to reveal sin in humanity. Christ has freed us from this burden, not to sin but to love and serve righteousness. On that day, The Father will not be using the measure of the Law to judge the ones he redeemed with the Law of grace. If that were the case, we would all be deservedly doomed.
@@throwingpearls4601 Any person that truly serves righteousness will keep God’s law.
Since sin is the is transgression of the law (1 John 3:4), to ague against the keeping of any part or God’s law is to vouch for and justify sin. Grace does not do away with the law, it is by grace that we are empowered to keep it.
Under the new covenant the law is written on the heart and performed by the in dwelling of Christ (Gal 2:20) and the believer is to walk as He walked (I.e in obedience to God). Our part is to seek to obey that law. We must will to obey God’s
Word, only then will we be empowered to. This was shown many times when Jesus healed those who were unable to even walk. They willed to obey his command ‘rise take up thy bed and walk’ and power was immediately imparted to them.
Jesus declared that all who teach men to disregard any of God’s commandments (including the 4th) will be called least in His kingdom (I.e. they won’t be there)
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Saturday is NO WHERE In the Bible fir Sabbath
What good is Saturday on a PAPAL ROME COUNTERFEIT CALENDAR???? You need to use God’s Luni- Solar Calendar from the Bible the moon shows the Sabbath!
The seventh day Sabbath never had anything to do with any calendar. Not a Hebrew calendar nor a Roman one. Gregory may have changed the date, but he didn't change the day of the week. The weekly cycle has not been broken since the beginning of the world.
The feast days mentioned in Leviticus 23 included festal sabbaths which were reckoned by the new moon. But these are NOT the seventh day sabbath.
The 6 days of creation week were 6 periods of light and darkness. The last period of light and darkness was the 7th day. The Sabbath is a memorial of creation, when God created the world over 6 days and then rested on the seventh. This is why in the 4th commandment in specifies that we work for 6 days the upon rest on the 7th.
But if you are going to follow the lunar calendar to reckon your "sabbath", you not only deny this memorial of creation week, but end up breaking the 4th commandment, which says that you are to rest every seventh day. This is becasue the lunar sabbatarians have no choice but to sometimes have 7 or 8 days between their 'sabbaths" because a lunar month is not 28 days, but 29.5 days. This means they have to add days at the beginning/end of a lunar month and thereby break the 4th commandment.
The 7th day Sabbath was never reckoned by the moon, but by the weekly cycle of light and darkness that began in creation week. This period of light and darkness we call a day gets its cadence from the sun, not the moon.
We have a video against the Hersey of lunar sabbaths ruclips.net/video/iMVnKkzUDs4/видео.htmlsi=48ltbZkOiyoQvKrZ
@@earthenvesselsministryhow can that be if the sun and moon were "created" on the 4th day? What light was governing the first 3 days? And the 4th commandment doesn't say remember EVERY seventh day, it say to remember THE Sabbath day. There is no way to keep the annual feasts by the moon and then keep the weekly Sabbath continuously without any break, there is going to be an overlap or contradiction somewhere. How then does one explain, Leviticus 23:1-3? Is that Sabbath described there different from the Sabbath instituted at creation? And how to reckon Psalm 104:19?
It all has to make sense scripturally, shouldn't it ?
"For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace." Saturday is the Sabbath, and Sunday is the day Jesus rose. The crux of this issue is that Sunday worship is not a substitute for the Sabbath. The disciples who originally gathered on Sunday's to honor Christ's rising were not pagan idolators. The Catholic church is undoubtedly pagan and guilty of many wrongs. However there is much more to this issue than simply what day of the week we gather on. To put it simply, we are no longer living under the covenant of Moses. We live under the commandments that Jesus taught. We are to worship everyday with all our heart, mind and strength. May God bless you.
@@Handlehandlehandle320 ,...The fact is, the catholic church is only slightly less of an abomination as is the protestant church. Both are apostate and an abomination. There is no weekly sabbath, and no actual Christians keeps a weekly sabbath. The sabbath is the entire new testament age, and all the actual Christians are resting. It is only those who do not belong to Jesus that continue to work for their salvation with weekly sabbaths, and all kinds of false beliefs and traditions of men.
The entire church is 100% apostate with its weekly sabbaths, and its freewill gospel. The few actual Christians that exist are completely outside of and away from everything called the church and all its manmade abominations.
Jesus taught that we are to keep the 10 commandments, and even mentioned some of them to the rich young ruler:
Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but *if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.*
Matthew He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, *Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,*
Matthew Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.*
The crux of this issue is that God's laws such as thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not commit adultery and remember Sabbath day as as binding today as they have been since the beginning. James says that if you break one of the commandments you are guilty of all:
Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and *yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.*
Jas 2:11 For he that said, *Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.*
The only one of the ten commandments that folks seem to take issue with is the 4th for some bizarre reason. In worshipping God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength, what better place to start is there than to live in obedience to His laws? Jesus Himself said that 'the sabbath was made for man...' (Mark 2:7). It was made to be a day of elevated, spiritual meditation and worship with fellow believers.
The subtle ploy by 'church fathers' in the early century regarding honouring Christ's resurrection by gathering on Sunday lacks any scriptural foundation. It was designed to be a substitute for the Sabbath by the father of lies, and has it not been effective?
To substitute the 7th day to worship on Sunday when you know that the word of God commands the observance of the Sabbath is defiance and rebellion. It is to do your own works.
@@earthenvesselsministry It's interesting how you pick and choose which bits of the law to follow. Do you condemn to death everyone who doesn't keep the sabbath on the day you think it should be kept? It's also interesting how you've "hearted" or commented on every other comment than mine.
Mandatory sabbath keeping is the same leaven Jesus wanted about. There are a whole bunch of questions that come up:
1. If you fail to keep the sabbath one time, do you lose your salvation?
2. If not, why not?
3. If missing it once is ok, what about twice? Three times?
4. How far can you walk on the sabbath?
5. Can you eat anything on the sabbath?
6. What time does the sabbath begin and end?
7. What classifies as work that is allowable on the sabbath?
8. If you've been keeping the sabbath, but on the "wrong day", does that count as breaking it?
9. Can you read the Bible in preparation for preparing a sermon on the sabbath, or does that count as work?
10. Who is the authority over answering these questions?
11. What if you disobey that authority and follow your own interpretation?
12. What if two authorities disagree?
13. If you need to follow an authority, and they are wrong about something else, do you need to follow that authority in doing the other thing also?
And one could continue coming up with questions to the point of writing many volumes. You might name it the Talmud.
And thus Paul shows us that pedantically keeping rules is not the point.
Isaiah 1 (KJV)
13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
Titus 3 (KJV)
9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
Galatians 3 (KJV)
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Mark 2 (KJV)
27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
It will be God who condemns those who despised his law, not any man.
I saw that others commented well trying to help you, but you wouldn’t hear them.
You have evidently read over my other responses and understand my position on the law of God and the law called “the handwriting of ordinances”
If you say that obeying God’s law is the leaven Jesus warned about, there isn’t much I can do for you.
@@earthenvesselsministry No, you avoided answering anything I wrote because you don't have an answer. Even your response here is disingenuous. For example, I never said that the law is leaven. I equated you to the Pharisees who contended with Jesus about the sabbath.
If your position is that not keeping the sabbath on the specific day you think is correct makes you worthy of God's wrath, then you have perverted the Gospel, and don't understand the New Testament.
Seeing as you haven't bothered answering anything else, I'll leave you with only one more thing to consider:
Romans 7 (KJV)
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Amen. My heart yearns for the day we would all apply this same sound reasoning to the annual appointed times of Yah and not just the weekly seventh day. His moadim are always referenced with language like 'for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings', yet those who claim solo scriptura rely on traditions of the catholic church to profane these annual holy days. Please be consistent and not double minded. The season of the 'fall feasts' is upon us. Begin to walk in full obediance to the scriptures and meet Yah at His appointed times and reap the blessings thereby.
The feast days you speak of were blotted out and nailed to the cross by Jesus. Paul refers to these as "the handwriting of ordinances" in the verse below:
Blotting out *the handwriting of ordinances* that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, *nailing it to his cross* -Colossians 2:14
Paul refers to the same things as a "middle wall of partition" and an "enmity" that was "against us":
For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down *the middle wall of partition between us ; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even *the law of commandments contained in ordinances* ; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
-Ephesians 2:14-15
To keep the passover and observe the other now abolished feast days is to do insult to Jehovah and Christ. It is to turn to shadows and types when God has placed their substance before you. Christ is not working to keep the feast days in anyone since He abolished them 2000 years ago. To keep the feast days is to do your own works. To teach others that the feast days are still binding is to trouble the body of Christ do the work of soul subversion that James rebuked the pharisees for in the Jerusalem council:
Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, *subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law : to whom we gave no such commandment* : Acts 15:24
@@earthenvesselsministrywouldn't that be a bit hypocritical of Paul then to say not to keep the feasts since he kept the feasts himself after Christ's crucifixion? Acts 18:21
@@andrearemy3425 If Paul kept any feast day, it was for the same reason he circumcised Timothy. Paul did not believe circumcision was necessary (Galatians 2:3). And if Paul kept any feast day, he did not do so because he actually believed in them, but only a means to disarm the prejudice of the Jews and win them to the gospel. You have to remember that there was a transition period for the Jews. The old covenant rites had just ended after many centuries of performing them. It is understandable for Jews of that time to be slow to adapt to the change in covenants and Paul did all he could to disarm their prejudice. One thing he he never did was tell any gentile to keep the feasts, in fact he opposed the pharisees in Acts 15 who were pressuring the Gentiles to be circumcised and to keep the law of Moses, and In Galatians 2:4 he called the same judaizers "false brethren... who came in privily to spy out our liberty".
But unlike the Jews of Paul's day, there is no excuse for folks in our day to go back to observing rites that we are clearly told we're nailed the cross of Christ and abolished 2000 years ago.
Romans 14 (KJV)
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
You have only exposed your Biblical illiteracy. Repent!
@@tonybasoni8443 Thank you for explaining your position. Very helpful :)
@@crutherfordmusic ,...The Biblically literate cannot show Biblical truth to the Biblically illiterate. They can only tell them they are wrong and deceived.
As an example, the scriptures you provided are speaking only to those who are actually Christians. A Christian is one who understands the truths of Gods word. So, anyone who is a Christian understands that there is no longer a weekly sabbath. They do not hold to a weekly sabbath on any day. Only counterfeit christians hold to a weekly sabbath. These verses are not saying it doesn't matter if one wants to keep a weekly sabbath on saturday or sunday, that everyone can do whatever they want and believe whatever they want. This all has to be understood in the light of all the other scriptures.
The fact is, the sabbath is the entire new testament age. From the time Jesus ascended to heaven to his return on judgment day. The sabbath is every day. Those who keep a weekly sabbath have rejected Gods sabbath and recreated their own old testament sabbath that has been fulfilled and done away with. They are all in reality working on the sabbath (the new testament age) when the actual Christians that Paul was speaking to here are all resting in Jesus, the real sabbath.
The few actual Christians that exist that have nothing whatsoever to do with anything called the church, they all understand the Bible the same. They do not all believe something different and hold to different understandings of the one truth of Gods word as all the fake christians that fill all the 100% apostate churches do. The idea of going to church and keeping a weekly sabbath does not come from the Bible, it only comes from the Godless, blind, lost, deceived, spiritually dead, spiritually blind men who made up the church and all its unbiblical traditions of men.
Actual Christianity is completely outside of everything known as and called the church.
"But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him." 1 John 2:27 KJV
Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Act 13:14 But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down.
Act 16:13 And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither.
@@tompinto8692 Are you saying that we are still under the law of Moses?
Weren’t the Waldensians Trinitarian? I don’t even think they kept the Sabbath
It was the at the council of Nicaea when the shrewd Constantine married paganism with christianity by officially bringing in Sunday sacredness and the trinity. But the Waldenses trace their origins beyond Nicea, back to the Apostolic church, and the apostolic church did not hold to either of those pagan doctrines.
Rome was as diligent to destroy the records of the Waldenses as she was to destroy their lives, so while we don't have much in the way of their own records, we doing have some statements of their persecutors which give away that they were Sabbath keepers such as this statement some the decree of Alphonso (Spain) which was published in 1194:
"Alphonse, king of Aragon etc., to all archbishops, bishops, and to all others : ... "We command you to imitation of our ancestors and in obedience to the ordinances of the church, that heretics, to wit, Waldenses, Insabbathi, and those why call themselves the poor of Lyons and all other heretics should be expelled away from the face of God and from all Catholics and ordered to depart from our kingdom"
The term "Insabbathi" was one of the names given to the Vaudois (Waldenses) according to the papal inquisitor Bernard Gui. And the word Sabbath in within the name insabbathi which is evidence that they were Sabbath keepers.
When the reformation began the Waldenses came into contact with the reformers. Ironically this resulted in them giving up many of the peculiarities of their ancient faith in exchange for many romish errors that the reformers did not kick to the kerb such as Sunday and the trinity.
@@earthenvesselsministry How can the “Church in the Wilderness” preach Trinity doctrine and not keep Sabbath?
@@vigilantchristian6314 the church in the wilderness did not believe in the trinity, and they kept the Sabbath.
@@earthenvesselsministry Waldensians??
@@earthenvesselsministry Ellen White identifies the Waldensians as the Church in the Wilderness
'paulites make no sense
Jesus is God
Yes Jesus is God. But Jesus Himself has a God and Father, whereas the Father does not:
Blessed be *the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ* , which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. 1 Peter 1:3
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of *my God* , and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of *my God* , and the name of the city of *my God* , which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from *my God* : and I will write upon him my new name. Revelation 3:12
@@earthenvesselsministry Jesus said “ I and my Father are One”” John 10:30 … Satan is always trying to get us to question Jesus deity . The world is always trying to humanize and bring him down to a common ordinary man. Jesus is God in the flesh. We are to raise him up and recognize him as God almighty and follow him
@@bojibear7957 Jesus said that his followers are to be one as He and His Father are one: "And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that *they may be one, even as we are one* " (John 17:22).
According to the way you are reasoning the statement about Jesus and His Father being one, Jesus wants us all to become one being. But this is obviously not what Jesus meant. He wants us to be one is purpose, in character, in faith--which is the same way He is one with His Father. They are not the same being.
To claim that Jesus and the Father are one being is to deny the most fundamental truth in all the Bible; that God have His only Begotten Son to die for your sins. This is because you don't actually believe God has a Son, since they both are one being. By dismissing the paternal relationship, you destroy the value of the sacrifice and deny that there even is a Father and a Son. This is the very teaching of antichrist:
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? *He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.*
Jesus being the Only Begotten Son of God does not 'humanise' Him in any sense. Jesus was begotten long before this world or anything was created, for He Himself created everything. Jesus is as fully divine as His Father. Just as we are human because our parents were human, Jesus is divine because his Father was God.