Been looking up how to set up PVC enclosures for a few weeks now and yours is one of the most detailed as of setting up heat. Love the content you just got a new sub sir!
Love the coat hanger idea. Instead of zip ties I used heat shrink tubing to hold the probe on the coat hanger. It’s been working great so far and looks a little cleaner
So hard to find good videos regarding rhp installation, but this one is great! Very informative, great tips and suggestions. Thank you for taking the time to share this information!
Zach once again good video you looking like you're getting comfortable go with the flow thanks for the shout-out from the podcast the other night you're the man that's all I can say
For our probes in our display cage I keep them closer to the snakes level near their hides on the hot side because when I had them up higher I was getting inaccurate temps where the snake actually spends most of its time. I still need to route and mount our probes a bit better since I left them loose with a little wire hanger so I could adjust it’s placement easier so I was getting accurate temps closer to the substrate where the animals spend all their time, now that we’ve got that figured out I’m going to drill a hole lower and use your zip tie method to hold the probes in their permanent position.
Yeah Tom this was such a work in progress over about a month before I finally ended up with this and I get consistent temps now at the bottom of the cage. Sounds great man.
@@NavaReptiles definitely a great topic that doesn’t get covered enough, keep up the great work man. How’s my trick het ultramel female baby doing hahaha?
@@tomrockholm-timeless_morph6691 thank you so much, seriously. All of the babies are doing well. 2 of them still won't eat but I'm going to give them til the end of this week. After that I'll try live and then assist if I have to. I'm sure it won't come to that though.
I'm currently waiting on my 4x2x2 PVC enclosure to arrive along with my ProHeat radiant heat panel as well for my ball python..I have spent hrs and hrs watching videos on probe placment and installation and hands down I found your method to be the best all around...my only question and I guess thought rather on doing it this way and I'm not bashing our talking bad about you and your way at all so please don't take it as such your way is genius juat a thought I have and hopefully you can answer for me..but with the probe being up high in the enclosure and so close to the heat panel will it make for different temps on the bottom of the enclosure because the enclosure won't have the time needed to come up to the correct temps needed on the warm side with the probe so close to the panel it will reach the set temp much much more quickly and then so what its designed to do and shut off thus by not allowing the bottom to come up to desired temperatures...like I said its just a thought and maybe I'm just over thinking this idk...but none the less great job and fantastic video with great information and insight....
So glad it helped! These are from Amazon as well. I had to bend the tab at the end of the lock mechanism that sticks to the glass just slightly to get the door to close all the way while the lock was engaged. If you hit me up on IG or something I can send you a picture of the locks close up.
Zip tied my panel up to screen 3 years ago the panel is by far the best panel probe zip tied to branch off a wood piece in enclosure an inch from bottom of enclosure under heat panel runs perfectly with herpstat 6 with the light on ramping and the temperature on ramping and mister plugged all in herpstat with humidity sensor from Spyder robotic works perfectly
Just found this video - definitely informative. Cool trick with the hanger, and I may have to try that in my next setup. I had the exact same sort of temp swings in my enclosure. They're 4x2x1.5 and both use a RHP from Pro Heat (Bob is great). I reached out to Dion at Spyder, and he mentioned the same thing - tape it to the exact center of the RHP. I bought heavy duty/all weather gorilla tape and did that. It took a bit of moving the temp setting around, but once I found the sweet spot all was good.
Hi I have a boa constrictor my question is the way you have your probe closer to the panel underneath I ask pro products if I can do it the way you did he told me that it was not correct I want to know did you have any issues I live in climate that's cold I live in Colorado
I got Pro Heat panels and they are the only panels I recommend, they are the safest and most well built panels available. The panel they sell you depends on your cage size, material, thickness, your location, as well as the room you plan to keep the cage in. Everything Pro Heat sells is designed and built just for you and your particular needs.
Hey sorry for my delay in responding! I do not use any flex watt with these cages. Using the heat panel I get a warm enough basking spot for them as it is, and the cold side of their cage still gets cool enough for them to escape the heat. They have a nice gradient from around 90 degrees down to around 75.
I got mine and Bob says to place heat prob on cool side on Enclosure as a safety setting? How is your placement working for you as I love the way you placed it. Awesome set up BTW!
Hey, I saw their recommendation to do it that way but when I saw how much my temps were swinging even having the probe at the bottom of the cage under the heat panel, I couldn’t imagine myself putting the probe that far away. Temps are good, still see a small swing but not enough to be concerning like before. Thanks a lot!
I just got my pro products heat panel installed... I used the same sized bit you did for the cord and was able to snugly run the probe cord through the same hole and tried having it very close to the rhp, only problem is my pvc enclosure is 8×4×4 and set to 90 lowered the temp of the rhp to 90 and my boa is 4 feet lower than that... I now have it lower to where he is and the surface temp on the rhp is like 198 and maybe rising to try to achieve the 90 degrees 4 feet below the panel where he is. Like I said this all happened within like the last few hours and I'm making adjustments. This is all a bit confusing at the moment and I'm trying to stay awake as long as possible to keep checking the temp of the rhp. It's about 80 where he is under the panel. Do you know how hot a heat panel will get 4 feet above with the therm temp set to 90? And is it safe for my pro heat panel to get this hot way up there to achieve 90 where he is? I'm gonna try Bob in the am to ask him.
Glad you found my video and it was helpful to you. As far as the temps on the surface I’m not actually sure off hand what they should be running with those dimensions etc but yes, I would reach out to Bob like you said. Please let me know what he says if you think about it as I’m very curious to hear myself.
Ok. So I use a ceramic heat emitter in one 4x2x2 pvc and a pro products heat panel on my other 4x2x2 pvc. The one with the CHE keeps temps very well. Humidity also not bad. If I spray it on a Monday and get the humidity up to about 85% on the cool side and 65-70% on the warm side (my enclosures have a humidity gradient as well. I didn’t design it that way. Just happened. But I love that) typically Wednesday or Thursday it could use another spray cause it’s getting low. But it’s not even out of range at that pound it’s low 60% and low 80%. Now. The pro products heat panel. Holy crap. I put it in my other enclosure and set everything up started running it and got temps and humidity up to snuff on Sunday. It’s now the following Saturday. The humidity as not dropped. It’s insane. Temps are prefect and heat panel is awesome. So if you need to save some money a CHE (with a safety cage!) will work. Don’t let anyone tell you they don’t work or you can’t keep humidity up. They work fine. The ambient humidity in my house is like 35-45% and I can keep the humidity above 60% in the enclosure with a CHE no problem. Just needs a little spray down every couple days. Which isn’t a big deal to me because your changing the water every day every other day no more than every 3 days. So spray it down move some substrate around clean up or fix whatever they knock over or pile drive through, take the water dish out and clean it and put it back with fresh water boom done. Should be doing that every few days anyway so no big deal to me. But I’ll still choose my heat panel over the CHE if possible. And side note if you use a Pro products heat panel with a herpstat 2 spiderweb thermostat. The plug for the heat panel kind of blocks the prob plug. It still works. You can still use the probe. But it does push on the probe plug. I’m getting ready to swap the plug for one I bought at Lowe’s that will fit better. DO NOT ATTEMPT OF YOU DONT HAVE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT SKILLS OR SAFTEY KNOWLEDGE. I really don’t want to hear about or see animals homes or people lost to electrical fires.
I have the same heat panel and trying to get the temps right is frustrating...what temp did you have to set your thermostat in order to get your hotspot right. My probe is in back left corner of cage. I cant seem get a good gradient and my temp probe is set 5 degrees less than my hotspot.
Mine are set around 88 degrees to keep temps where I want them and I have a great gradient. I see the snakes move around as they like to in order to find the temp they are looking for at that time.
Hey Stuart, it took about 5 months I want to say on the cages? The heat panels took about a week from the day I ordered until I had them if I remember correctly. The cages would have been here a bit sooner but my order got mixed in with some "production" orders or something, I'm not sure of the specifics but they were honest about it and got them out very quickly once the error was realized.
The way they are constructed is much better than some others on the market but the biggest difference to me was that they were testing each individual panel they were shipping out due to changing to a new supplier for their heating elements. The attention to detail they show with making sure their panels are as safe as humanly possible was what really sold me on them. I have seen pictures of other panels that have melted and nearly caused fires due to poor construction.
@@NavaReptiles I just ordered a PH12 from Bob at pro products they are a month backordered so I wanted to see if u had the same one so I know where the wires are on the panel so I can get the enclosure all ready with drilling the holes. I built my own 4'x2'x20" pvc for around 170$ and I have everything done except the heat panel .. so if u do have the PH 12 can u tell me if the wire is directly in the center on the panel coming out of the side ? Thanks. Dave
Hey Dave, just got home and looked at my paperwork. I have the PH3 75W panels so they are smaller than what you ordered unfortunately. I can tell you that the wire on these comes out directly in the center on the long side yes, but I'm not sure if it will be the same way on those.
I'm so behind with so many Videos out there to watch Zak, I'm so proud of you with your progress in putting yourself out there by making videos and also staring a podcast. I can't wait to see what the future holds for you man! Sorry I went off there 😅 😬 Great video Zak with your view on how to set up heat panels.
It's impossible to keep up with watching everyone's content with so many of us making it, no worries Victor. I cannot thank you enough for the kind words and always taking the time to share some positivity with all of us in the hobby. It doesn't go unnoticed brother.
Thanks. But that's incorrect according to the manufacturer. Too close to the panel. Bob: "Placing a probe this close to the panel will cause it to cycle faster than it should and not allow it to reach maximum output performance"
Following Bob's instructions left me with temps over 100 degrees no matter how I adjusted the thermostat so while I understand it may not be the way he says to do things, it's what I found to work so I'll keep it. Thanks.
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I personally will always listen to the advice of a fellow Slayer fan. Great info in this vid!
Been looking up how to set up PVC enclosures for a few weeks now and yours is one of the most detailed as of setting up heat. Love the content you just got a new sub sir!
Love the coat hanger idea. Instead of zip ties I used heat shrink tubing to hold the probe on the coat hanger. It’s been working great so far and looks a little cleaner
Great idea with the heat shrink tubing! I'll probably redo mine that way!
Awesome video Zak!!! 👏 👏 👏
Super smart of you to use that part of the hanger!
This keeps popping back up on my "I haven't responded" list of Comments becuase RUclips doesn't like the word rad nack apparently 😂
@@NavaReptiles 🤣🤣🤣
So hard to find good videos regarding rhp installation, but this one is great! Very informative, great tips and suggestions. Thank you for taking the time to share this information!
Thanks for checking it out Megan! So glad it was helpful.
Zach once again good video you looking like you're getting comfortable go with the flow thanks for the shout-out from the podcast the other night you're the man that's all I can say
Thank you Elliot, your support means a lot brother, I meant what I said! Glad to have you in this great community.
For our probes in our display cage I keep them closer to the snakes level near their hides on the hot side because when I had them up higher I was getting inaccurate temps where the snake actually spends most of its time. I still need to route and mount our probes a bit better since I left them loose with a little wire hanger so I could adjust it’s placement easier so I was getting accurate temps closer to the substrate where the animals spend all their time, now that we’ve got that figured out I’m going to drill a hole lower and use your zip tie method to hold the probes in their permanent position.
Yeah Tom this was such a work in progress over about a month before I finally ended up with this and I get consistent temps now at the bottom of the cage. Sounds great man.
@@NavaReptiles it really is quite a process to get it right lol, I think that’s something a lot of people overlook.
Absolutely agree, Tom. It’s a large part of why I made the video.
@@NavaReptiles definitely a great topic that doesn’t get covered enough, keep up the great work man. How’s my trick het ultramel female baby doing hahaha?
@@tomrockholm-timeless_morph6691 thank you so much, seriously. All of the babies are doing well. 2 of them still won't eat but I'm going to give them til the end of this week. After that I'll try live and then assist if I have to. I'm sure it won't come to that though.
I'm currently waiting on my 4x2x2 PVC enclosure to arrive along with my ProHeat radiant heat panel as well for my ball python..I have spent hrs and hrs watching videos on probe placment and installation and hands down I found your method to be the best all around...my only question and I guess thought rather on doing it this way and I'm not bashing our talking bad about you and your way at all so please don't take it as such your way is genius juat a thought I have and hopefully you can answer for me..but with the probe being up high in the enclosure and so close to the heat panel will it make for different temps on the bottom of the enclosure because the enclosure won't have the time needed to come up to the correct temps needed on the warm side with the probe so close to the panel it will reach the set temp much much more quickly and then so what its designed to do and shut off thus by not allowing the bottom to come up to desired temperatures...like I said its just a thought and maybe I'm just over thinking this idk...but none the less great job and fantastic video with great information and insight....
This video saved me so much trouble!! Haha I have the exact setup and didn’t want to wing it, so watching how you did it was sooo helpful!
Also curious where you got your glass door locks from. The ones I got from Amazon don’t allow the door to fully shut 😬
So glad it helped! These are from Amazon as well. I had to bend the tab at the end of the lock mechanism that sticks to the glass just slightly to get the door to close all the way while the lock was engaged. If you hit me up on IG or something I can send you a picture of the locks close up.
Zip tied my panel up to screen 3 years ago the panel is by far the best panel probe zip tied to branch off a wood piece in enclosure an inch from bottom of enclosure under heat panel runs perfectly with herpstat 6 with the light on ramping and the temperature on ramping and mister plugged all in herpstat with humidity sensor from Spyder robotic works perfectly
Yeah I talked to Bob as well, mine just wouldn’t regulate properly when I had it there. Bob is a great guy.
Nice video bro! That coat hanger trick is ingenious!
This keeps popping back up on my "I haven't responded" list of Comments becuase RUclips doesn't like the word rad nack apparently 😂
Good info man...it's important to buy equipment like this from a reliable source
Absolutely agree Sal!
Just found this video - definitely informative. Cool trick with the hanger, and I may have to try that in my next setup. I had the exact same sort of temp swings in my enclosure. They're 4x2x1.5 and both use a RHP from Pro Heat (Bob is great). I reached out to Dion at Spyder, and he mentioned the same thing - tape it to the exact center of the RHP. I bought heavy duty/all weather gorilla tape and did that. It took a bit of moving the temp setting around, but once I found the sweet spot all was good.
Thanks for checking it out! Glad you found something that worked well!
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I wish I would have found this long ago. I'm going to be doing this today.
So glad it was helpful to you Margie! Good luck!
Hi I have a boa constrictor my question is the way you have your probe closer to the panel underneath I ask pro products if I can do it the way you did he told me that it was not correct I want to know did you have any issues I live in climate that's cold I live in Colorado
Are your enclosures the 4x2x2 also what wattage radient heat panels are you running in your enclosures...
Nice video what model heat panel did u get for the t8 enclosures and how long is shipping need to get four panels and 4 t8 enclosures thanks
I got Pro Heat panels and they are the only panels I recommend, they are the safest and most well built panels available. The panel they sell you depends on your cage size, material, thickness, your location, as well as the room you plan to keep the cage in. Everything Pro Heat sells is designed and built just for you and your particular needs.
Great video Zak!
Thanks a ton Phillip!
Thank you for the info great video and explanation. I have a ? Do u use flex watt heat tape along with the radiant heat panel?
Hey sorry for my delay in responding! I do not use any flex watt with these cages. Using the heat panel I get a warm enough basking spot for them as it is, and the cold side of their cage still gets cool enough for them to escape the heat. They have a nice gradient from around 90 degrees down to around 75.
@@NavaReptiles thanks
This is such a great tip! Thank you for sharing!
Thanks Alicia! So glad to help!
I got mine and Bob says to place heat prob on cool side on Enclosure as a safety setting? How is your placement working for you as I love the way you placed it. Awesome set up BTW!
Hey, I saw their recommendation to do it that way but when I saw how much my temps were swinging even having the probe at the bottom of the cage under the heat panel, I couldn’t imagine myself putting the probe that far away. Temps are good, still see a small swing but not enough to be concerning like before. Thanks a lot!
I just got my pro products heat panel installed... I used the same sized bit you did for the cord and was able to snugly run the probe cord through the same hole and tried having it very close to the rhp, only problem is my pvc enclosure is 8×4×4 and set to 90 lowered the temp of the rhp to 90 and my boa is 4 feet lower than that... I now have it lower to where he is and the surface temp on the rhp is like 198 and maybe rising to try to achieve the 90 degrees 4 feet below the panel where he is. Like I said this all happened within like the last few hours and I'm making adjustments. This is all a bit confusing at the moment and I'm trying to stay awake as long as possible to keep checking the temp of the rhp. It's about 80 where he is under the panel. Do you know how hot a heat panel will get 4 feet above with the therm temp set to 90? And is it safe for my pro heat panel to get this hot way up there to achieve 90 where he is? I'm gonna try Bob in the am to ask him.
Glad you found my video and it was helpful to you. As far as the temps on the surface I’m not actually sure off hand what they should be running with those dimensions etc but yes, I would reach out to Bob like you said. Please let me know what he says if you think about it as I’m very curious to hear myself.
Ok. So I use a ceramic heat emitter in one 4x2x2 pvc and a pro products heat panel on my other 4x2x2 pvc. The one with the CHE keeps temps very well. Humidity also not bad. If I spray it on a Monday and get the humidity up to about 85% on the cool side and 65-70% on the warm side (my enclosures have a humidity gradient as well. I didn’t design it that way. Just happened. But I love that) typically Wednesday or Thursday it could use another spray cause it’s getting low. But it’s not even out of range at that pound it’s low 60% and low 80%. Now. The pro products heat panel. Holy crap. I put it in my other enclosure and set everything up started running it and got temps and humidity up to snuff on Sunday. It’s now the following Saturday. The humidity as not dropped. It’s insane. Temps are prefect and heat panel is awesome. So if you need to save some money a CHE (with a safety cage!) will work. Don’t let anyone tell you they don’t work or you can’t keep humidity up. They work fine. The ambient humidity in my house is like 35-45% and I can keep the humidity above 60% in the enclosure with a CHE no problem. Just needs a little spray down every couple days. Which isn’t a big deal to me because your changing the water every day every other day no more than every 3 days. So spray it down move some substrate around clean up or fix whatever they knock over or pile drive through, take the water dish out and clean it and put it back with fresh water boom done. Should be doing that every few days anyway so no big deal to me. But I’ll still choose my heat panel over the CHE if possible. And side note if you use a Pro products heat panel with a herpstat 2 spiderweb thermostat. The plug for the heat panel kind of blocks the prob plug. It still works. You can still use the probe. But it does push on the probe plug. I’m getting ready to swap the plug for one I bought at Lowe’s that will fit better. DO NOT ATTEMPT OF YOU DONT HAVE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT SKILLS OR SAFTEY KNOWLEDGE. I really don’t want to hear about or see animals homes or people lost to electrical fires.
Great information, thanks for sharing!
Pro Product heat panels are the FERRARI of reptile 🐍 🦎 🐢 heating elements!!!
Absolutely agree!
I have the same heat panel and trying to get the temps right is frustrating...what temp did you have to set your thermostat in order to get your hotspot right. My probe is in back left corner of cage. I cant seem get a good gradient and my temp probe is set 5 degrees less than my hotspot.
Mine are set around 88 degrees to keep temps where I want them and I have a great gradient. I see the snakes move around as they like to in order to find the temp they are looking for at that time.
You ever had an issue where the radiant heat panel won’t go above 84 degrees.
What were your lead times on your order.... how long did it take to get from the time you purchased to be delivery you?
Hey Stuart, it took about 5 months I want to say on the cages? The heat panels took about a week from the day I ordered until I had them if I remember correctly. The cages would have been here a bit sooner but my order got mixed in with some "production" orders or something, I'm not sure of the specifics but they were honest about it and got them out very quickly once the error was realized.
What is special about pro products vs other rhps?
The way they are constructed is much better than some others on the market but the biggest difference to me was that they were testing each individual panel they were shipping out due to changing to a new supplier for their heating elements. The attention to detail they show with making sure their panels are as safe as humanly possible was what really sold me on them. I have seen pictures of other panels that have melted and nearly caused fires due to poor construction.
Is that a PH 12 panel ? 12"x24"
It is a Pro Heat panel, yes. I actually don’t remember the size, I’ll have to check when I get home and let you know.
@@NavaReptiles I just ordered a PH12 from Bob at pro products they are a month backordered so I wanted to see if u had the same one so I know where the wires are on the panel so I can get the enclosure all ready with drilling the holes. I built my own 4'x2'x20" pvc for around 170$ and I have everything done except the heat panel .. so if u do have the PH 12 can u tell me if the wire is directly in the center on the panel coming out of the side ? Thanks. Dave
Hey Dave, just got home and looked at my paperwork. I have the PH3 75W panels so they are smaller than what you ordered unfortunately. I can tell you that the wire on these comes out directly in the center on the long side yes, but I'm not sure if it will be the same way on those.
@@NavaReptiles ok cool thanks alot for looking. I'll wait till I get it.
@@TapSnapOrNap203 happy to help anytime I can Dave!
How's was the cold end temps ?
Hey Brandon, cold end is great.
What size wattage is your heat panel?
John, these are 75 watt panels.
Oooh
Thanks Lance!
@@NavaReptiles my pleasure bro
I'm so behind with so many Videos out there to watch Zak, I'm so proud of you with your progress in putting yourself out there by making videos and also staring a podcast. I can't wait to see what the future holds for you man! Sorry I went off there 😅 😬 Great video Zak with your view on how to set up heat panels.
It's impossible to keep up with watching everyone's content with so many of us making it, no worries Victor. I cannot thank you enough for the kind words and always taking the time to share some positivity with all of us in the hobby. It doesn't go unnoticed brother.
Thanks. But that's incorrect according to the manufacturer. Too close to the panel. Bob: "Placing a probe this close to the panel will cause it to cycle faster than it should and not allow it to reach maximum output performance"
Following Bob's instructions left me with temps over 100 degrees no matter how I adjusted the thermostat so while I understand it may not be the way he says to do things, it's what I found to work so I'll keep it. Thanks.
You have a retic in a 4×2×1 I have a dume in a 6x3x2½. We are not the same step your game up