the block string itself isnt really an issue. as many characters have just as good strings and pressure. the issue is that it deals such massive amounts of guard break that it forces the opponent to guard cancel with no other option. This means that playing against her is more of a pure resource game than a real match (i main her) . If you have 100 meter you have a chance to live. But if you dont you literally just die. So if you use the gc to break out you are now left with nothing to win the next interaction and if she gets in one more time she wins. Again she isnt the only character that can make an interaction like that after gc but shes the only one that can do it with such easy setup. They need to reduce the guard damage her specials do and buff the gc mechanic. Then the problem is solved without affecting how she plays.
I wouldn't say "pure resource" since she has to pull off the whole string to guard break you off one hit, which is only going to happen if you've put yourself into exhaustion and THEN start blocking. If you can maintain at least 20 meter for the string you'll be able to safely guard cancel once you see a non-A button. After that it's up to you to prevent her from simply getting back in, and if the striker player is going for it they'll burn through so much meter that it will be hard for them to reset pressure without committing to a divekick or similar button.
@@UltLuigi1 you say that you wouldnt call it a pure resource game then proceed to describe an interaction based on pure resource management. If you have gc her string you lose 100 meter but will not regain any guard gauge. So if you lose the very next interaction she WILL guard break you. this is not unique to her as its a flaw with the gc mechanic as a whole. But because she can start the guard break string off basically any blocked attack it means that she is particularly dangerous. So again it all comes down to resources. If you have 100 meter you can live, if you don't then you die.
swiftmaster,hitman,berserker. Like literally play the game and you'll see that her pressure isn't even that crazy. the issue is that since the guardbreak is so high and cost so little for her it makes it feel like the pressure is worse than it really is. But swiftmaster in particular can apply worse pressure and get even better rewards from it since it can be done from half screen. berserker pressure is also safe from guard cancel which nobody talks about simply because its got harder execution and costs his life to perform.
crazy counter play idea. get hit on purpose at some random part of the string so she has to think of a combo from a stray hit. it'll hurt but it wont be as easy a ToD
do it if u suspect them of using simple macros. btw, I had a fighting game idea where while you're being juggled, you still can't fight back but have some control over your trajectory to make them drop you
I hope I don't sound biased as i'm a striker player but she needs this mainly because everyone else in the roster has projectiles, range and full screen moves while striker has to work just to get in
Just Guard Cancel bro. > Assuming that you have 100 MP to begin with. > Implying that she doesn’t have multiple ways to bait them, including DP. I get that people just want to accept this fun Kusoge for what it is but losing an entire match just because you don’t have 100 MP to GC is ridiculous. Just don’t use your MP moves bro. Just don’t block bro lol.
Well ay if u let striker get in on you with superior range than her thats on you its her win condition and even then there are multiple points to use your guard cancel safely. You crying for no reason.
@@maxrusty3596 How does that argument apply when you are playing characters that want to get in themselves? For example characters like grappler, hitman, striker herself, and inquisitor
@@reignthapain3046 Its quite obvious the win condition for those characters are to get in...except hit has great range and inquisitor has ranged options so i dont know why ur making that case. I realy dont even know what ur talking about tbh.
@@maxrusty3596 the fact you failed to mention the grappler part really hurts your argument how is he meant to get his win condition if they have similar range but has faster normals and not to mention her 2M which invalidates a lot of grapplers gameplan especially when you factor in the fact she can rebeat now tell me? How is grappler meant to win that situation where blocking is straight up an L for him?
Doesnt seem to be a true blockstring if the opponent is set to stand. Tried it on striker and the 2B never lands in block when the opponent is set to block only in the beginning. Works on crusader though as shown in the video
Yeah because it situational. You have to have low health to activate your awaken feat and have full meter. So you have to purposely lose and have your opponents in zero meter to pull off this block string guard break.
@@kieragard Maybe not this specifically since the mana cost was so high (but yes patch this please), but check rooflemongers video he does "guaranteed" guard breaks with striker with the starting 100 mana off any stray hit, no awakening. Its pretty wild. To put it another way, it means if you dont have the mana to guard cancel any of her hits becomes an unblockable that leads to a full combo, but this is worse since you also took white damage during the blockstring and got pushed to the corner too.
@@zz8az yeah I'm aware of it, but since other characters have infinite. It's still not enough to make her the top character. Infinites are still better than guard breaks. Everyone is pretty busted and I'm ok with it staying that way. That's just the kind of game it is.
This is not as much of an issue as it seems.. noticed in his examples to TOD she has to be awaken, the opponent has to have used all of their mana and therefore not ready at some point to reversal. The second part is mitigate, because you get more mana capacity as you are hit.. so really if you misjudge and go into mana exhaustion trying to kill striker and it didn't work.. runaway quickly.. or you are Fed.. now in need to train my keep away game that girl is a baddd EX.
Yes, dev team can tune it down a bit. But she needs this to open up others. Especially there are other characters can have full screen normal or multiple setup traps.
People that want her nerfed need to understand that she actually does need this and not the meme. If she didn’t have her kit like it is she would struggle a lot. I main Kuno/Striker. There are characters like Troubleshooter, Ranger, Kunoichi and Swift Master that and hit you with shit FULL STAGE. Then you have characters like Vanguard, Enchantress, Inquisitor and Crusader with absolutely insane range attacks. If she wasn’t this good she would genuinely struggle against pretty much the entire roster.
Stupid balance. Who thought it was a good idea to give her a block string that breaks guard, then give vanguard a guardbreak bonus (at low health) with a combo that pushes the opponent out of range ? This trash need a patch. She literally does what he does even better with an extra low life perk, and shes fast enough to clip him on startup out of all but 2 moves. 8l and 5l. Its so dumb.
@@Johten im not talking about stopping it im saying her perks outweigh his. Its stupid to have him break guard as an awakening when her block string does that without an awakening. And his normals push the opponent back too far to break guard or setup anything. Stupid balance
@@ViewtifulDevil if you only have 100 mana then you arent dying unless your opponent gets a medium starter and is in awakening. You guys should REALLY listen to pro players before coming up with these random one off situations that (apparently) ruin the game. Less defensive options is better.
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the block string itself isnt really an issue. as many characters have just as good strings and pressure. the issue is that it deals such massive amounts of guard break that it forces the opponent to guard cancel with no other option. This means that playing against her is more of a pure resource game than a real match (i main her) . If you have 100 meter you have a chance to live. But if you dont you literally just die. So if you use the gc to break out you are now left with nothing to win the next interaction and if she gets in one more time she wins. Again she isnt the only character that can make an interaction like that after gc but shes the only one that can do it with such easy setup. They need to reduce the guard damage her specials do and buff the gc mechanic. Then the problem is solved without affecting how she plays.
SW's guard crash combo is much better... She is second
I wouldn't say "pure resource" since she has to pull off the whole string to guard break you off one hit, which is only going to happen if you've put yourself into exhaustion and THEN start blocking. If you can maintain at least 20 meter for the string you'll be able to safely guard cancel once you see a non-A button. After that it's up to you to prevent her from simply getting back in, and if the striker player is going for it they'll burn through so much meter that it will be hard for them to reset pressure without committing to a divekick or similar button.
@@UltLuigi1 you say that you wouldnt call it a pure resource game then proceed to describe an interaction based on pure resource management. If you have gc her string you lose 100 meter but will not regain any guard gauge. So if you lose the very next interaction she WILL guard break you. this is not unique to her as its a flaw with the gc mechanic as a whole. But because she can start the guard break string off basically any blocked attack it means that she is particularly dangerous. So again it all comes down to resources. If you have 100 meter you can live, if you don't then you die.
Lol what other characters have this kind of pressure my guy?
swiftmaster,hitman,berserker. Like literally play the game and you'll see that her pressure isn't even that crazy. the issue is that since the guardbreak is so high and cost so little for her it makes it feel like the pressure is worse than it really is. But swiftmaster in particular can apply worse pressure and get even better rewards from it since it can be done from half screen. berserker pressure is also safe from guard cancel which nobody talks about simply because its got harder execution and costs his life to perform.
crazy counter play idea. get hit on purpose at some random part of the string so she has to think of a combo from a stray hit. it'll hurt but it wont be as easy a ToD
Haha, maybe you can do this once per round. White life did too much dmg, maybe getting hit by 5m or jm before white dmg stack up would work.
do it if u suspect them of using simple macros. btw, I had a fighting game idea where while you're being juggled, you still can't fight back but have some control over your trajectory to make them drop you
I hope I don't sound biased as i'm a striker player but she needs this mainly because everyone else in the roster has projectiles, range and full screen moves while striker has to work just to get in
I think the same
Grappler 🧎♂️
everyone? grappler requires way more to get in. he is complete garbage. also he is my main....
@@abdul1678 coming from a former grappler main, I feel this
Oh my mistake when i said "everyone" i meant majority so my fault for not clearing that up
Just Guard Cancel bro.
> Assuming that you have 100 MP to begin with.
> Implying that she doesn’t have multiple ways to bait them, including DP.
I get that people just want to accept this fun Kusoge for what it is but losing an entire match just because you don’t have 100 MP to GC is ridiculous. Just don’t use your MP moves bro. Just don’t block bro lol.
Well ay if u let striker get in on you with superior range than her thats on you its her win condition and even then there are multiple points to use your guard cancel safely. You crying for no reason.
People are gonna find cool and broken shit with every character u guys who go right to complaining are the ones who stay at the same level forever.
@@maxrusty3596 How does that argument apply when you are playing characters that want to get in themselves? For example characters like grappler, hitman, striker herself, and inquisitor
@@reignthapain3046 Its quite obvious the win condition for those characters are to get in...except hit has great range and inquisitor has ranged options so i dont know why ur making that case. I realy dont even know what ur talking about tbh.
@@maxrusty3596 the fact you failed to mention the grappler part really hurts your argument how is he meant to get his win condition if they have similar range but has faster normals and not to mention her 2M which invalidates a lot of grapplers gameplan especially when you factor in the fact she can rebeat now tell me? How is grappler meant to win that situation where blocking is straight up an L for him?
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the most imposible thing about this is getting the dp to connect, it always whiff when i do it.
Not all heroes wear capes
Can't wait for this game to turn into striker only game. 15 characters and one gorilla girl
Who you callin gorilla cyclops
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Striker downplayers in the comments
So... both my chars can do it? NEAT. :D
any tips for the 2M after the M? i keep getting pushed back too far and whiffing
Against crusader I found just doing it quickly made it connect. However, against the rest of the cast I’m still whiffing.
It is easy to whiff overall. Sometimes i just go straight with 2m than jm. Don't than start the gc string. Most of time you cam get it.
You gotta delay the 2m on smaller characters
@@Nathan-bk7fv fhanks. Will test it out.
Doesnt seem to be a true blockstring if the opponent is set to stand. Tried it on striker and the 2B never lands in block when the opponent is set to block only in the beginning. Works on crusader though as shown in the video
5s 2s js 5a might be easy to drop. But it is a true block string on every character no matter standing or crouching.
striker the only character i like but shes a bully lol
"She needs it bro" 🤓
I agree, she have nothing but rush down.
@@RiverNileHK that is no excuse but let it rock until it’s patched because it is hype.
Yeah because it situational. You have to have low health to activate your awaken feat and have full meter. So you have to purposely lose and have your opponents in zero meter to pull off this block string guard break.
@@Underground3 false she can do this with 70 percent health
@@Underground3 she doesn't need awakening. She can do this with only 140 meter. The only way to stop it is too guard break
this game needs a patch lol
it needs a patch on infinites. thankfully this is not an infinite :)
@@kieragard Maybe not this specifically since the mana cost was so high (but yes patch this please), but check rooflemongers video he does "guaranteed" guard breaks with striker with the starting 100 mana off any stray hit, no awakening. Its pretty wild.
To put it another way, it means if you dont have the mana to guard cancel any of her hits becomes an unblockable that leads to a full combo, but this is worse since you also took white damage during the blockstring and got pushed to the corner too.
@@zz8az yeah I'm aware of it, but since other characters have infinite. It's still not enough to make her the top character. Infinites are still better than guard breaks. Everyone is pretty busted and I'm ok with it staying that way. That's just the kind of game it is.
@@kieragard some things are too much though, yeah patch the infinites for sure, but imo "everyone is busted" can only go so far until it isnt fun
@@kieragard this is a block string infinite that leads into an unblockable it needs to be patched
This is not as much of an issue as it seems.. noticed in his examples to TOD she has to be awaken, the opponent has to have used all of their mana and therefore not ready at some point to reversal. The second part is mitigate, because you get more mana capacity as you are hit.. so really if you misjudge and go into mana exhaustion trying to kill striker and it didn't work.. runaway quickly.. or you are Fed.. now in need to train my keep away game that girl is a baddd EX.
Yo wtf that's just too much lol
If you Guard Cancel successfully, and just stay there blocking, that's entirely your fault.
It is only to showcase that they can't guard cancel agian if they are in exhausting.
She needs it bro
Striker has no range so it's fair that she has insane close range pressure
Yes, dev team can tune it down a bit. But she needs this to open up others. Especially there are other characters can have full screen normal or multiple setup traps.
It’s fair she has to get in
People that want her nerfed need to understand that she actually does need this and not the meme. If she didn’t have her kit like it is she would struggle a lot. I main Kuno/Striker. There are characters like Troubleshooter, Ranger, Kunoichi and Swift Master that and hit you with shit FULL STAGE. Then you have characters like Vanguard, Enchantress, Inquisitor and Crusader with absolutely insane range attacks. If she wasn’t this good she would genuinely struggle against pretty much the entire roster.
does not actually work. you will never ever get this in a match. must be point blank. will never happen.
t'es quel rang juste pour savoir ?
No, it is quite easy to happen.
"will never get this in a match", as the first clip shows quite clearly a replay of an actual match. lol what are you on??
Since when has being in point blank range never happened on a rushdown character in a fighting game lmao
Stupid balance. Who thought it was a good idea to give her a block string that breaks guard, then give vanguard a guardbreak bonus (at low health) with a combo that pushes the opponent out of range ? This trash need a patch. She literally does what he does even better with an extra low life perk, and shes fast enough to clip him on startup out of all but 2 moves. 8l and 5l. Its so dumb.
Guard cancel bud
@@Johten im not talking about stopping it im saying her perks outweigh his. Its stupid to have him break guard as an awakening when her block string does that without an awakening. And his normals push the opponent back too far to break guard or setup anything. Stupid balance
@@Johten lose 100 mana and can be safe jumped.....
@@Johten Then you're out of mana and if you don't win the next interaction, you just lose. . .
@@ViewtifulDevil if you only have 100 mana then you arent dying unless your opponent gets a medium starter and is in awakening.
You guys should REALLY listen to pro players before coming up with these random one off situations that (apparently) ruin the game.
Less defensive options is better.