Ranking M+ Affixes in World of Warcraft | M+Affix Tier List
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- Back with some tier list content, today I wanted to rank the M+ affixes. This includes old affixes that have been removed. I wanted to avoid seasonals because those arent in the scope of this video.
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00:00 - Intro
00:45 - Tyran and Fortified
05:45 - Afflicted
06:50 - Bolstering
08:30 - Bursting
11:00 - Entangling
12:50 - Explosive
16:00 - Grievous
18:25 - Incorporeal
21:12 - Inspiring
22:05 - Necrotic
23:40 - Overflowing
25:15 - Quaking
26:40 - Raging
28:25 - Sanguine
29:50 - Skittish
30:45 - Spiteful
33:05 - Volcanic
34:00 - Storming
34:50 - Teeming
35:45 - Conclusion and Final Thoughts 
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Spiteful as "fun" is such a fucking Boomkin take.
I find it fun too but I specifically spec Lightning Lasso for it. Shammy owns the ghost affixes
I can see spiteful being fine for any class that doesn't need to restealth between pulls. Rogues and feral druids(?) find it horrendous. One of my least favorite affixes. On spiteful weeks I know my overall dps is going to be a good 20% lower because of few opportunities to restealth.
As a healer i dislike spiteful for the sole reason that its hard to drink in between pulls unless your dps decided to turn around and kill it
Totally agree. Spiteful is fine if you're a ranged dps, but if your melee, having to run away and do nothing for 20 seconds is super unfun.
Can't take this seriously with spiteful as a fun tier. Your boomkin is showing big time here.
Still better than storming
Haha found the melee player 😂
It's funny cause I am a fire mage lol. @@MrMcswiggens
M+ bosses should not be longer than raiding bosses, tyrannical is F tier and sanguine is D tier.
Just actually delete on death affixes. If the goal is to kill mobs, any on death affix ruins the fun of killing the mobs
Bursting and Bolstering are polar opposites between avg. players and high end gamers.
Bursting for the avg. player is probably the worst affix, when bolstering is almost entirely ignored; while for high end gamers, bolstering suddenly becomes a huge problem and bursting is a non-issue.
Goes to show that BOTH of them need rework.
have you ever pugged as a tank on bolstering week...
Make all the Tier 1 affixes a positive. Dispelling afflicted in time buffs you. Breaking entangles gives you a haste buff. Heal spiteful adds 5 seconds to the timer. Make affixes start off as "meh" and get better.
Afflicted is worse than Incorporeal because not all classes can actually interact with Afflicted. A prot warrior cannot help at all, which really means your comp had better be perfect otherwise to compensate.
You get the same problems with Incorporeal. Not only do you have to commit a CC which you might need for a mob, but some classes have bad CC's for the affix. For example warrior has to talent into a 2 minute CC while monk or DH can deal with each one. You need to think about the comp for Incorporeal as well.
@@fribbe6416 true, but every class except the two healing priests have an interrupt.
Yes, but an interrupt is not enough. It will just recast. You need to CC it for the whole duration.@@kennethvannorwick3557
@@kennethvannorwick3557 you're not sending kicks into the incorp unless you're in a bad spot. kicks are way too important to throw into ghosts. Also resto druid needs to drop a Lot of points to get a kick, a ridiculous amount in fact.
Spiteful as a fun affix is the hottest take of all. Can only be made by a ranged dps player.
It's more of a boomy take ig cause i hate on aug, mage, and hunter. It's not hard to deal with just a shitty and annoying affix
Now we have a rotating m+ pool so I think we should try a no-affix season. For real, I think if you get bored, just change the class or the spec or maybe dont play the game 20 hours per day. I would rather have every week be the same and feeling bored at some point of the season, than having weeks that feels miserable to play (like sanguine weeks on frost mage - incorp-afflicted on warr/rogues, any weeks with bursting/bolstering + fort).
The big problem is that the infinite chance of loot on m+ kinda makes you do a lot of dgs per week, when you should be doing like 8 for vault or 10-12 if you think pushing its funny.
If high end players really want affixes, make it a thing past +25 (or +15 on next season) so only 0.1% deal with it on their endless push experience.
What if i dont wanna change spec or class?? You peasant should learn affixes, it wont feel miserable!
You know it's a banger when Tettles opens the video sounding like he is turning in a late homework assignment.
Dude how the fuck is sanguine anything other than a delete. Its easily the worst affix by far, and its now even close. Whenever I log into wow on sanguine weeks I just lose all will to play the game, especially on my tanks.
The best feeling is the week after sanguine where you don’t have to preemptively kite like a lunatic.
Try healing bursting this week tank you will quit wow
Afflicted mega sucks when you're trying to pug 25-26s and there aren't many keys to begin with, but now your comp needs at least 3 dispels to comfortably deal with it unless the two people who are getting them are very on top of their game.
even if they were on top of their game, the healer has to dispel other mechanics which puts their dispel on cd and unable to get afflicted easily.
@@gpm135 completely agree
100% did a 25 wcm on ppal with 1 other dispel. Was nearly oom the whole dungeon and barely had the gcd's to stay alive. Every class/spec needs a way to handle/outplay EVERY affix.
yes, I agree. Every class needs a way to handle every affix. I will sadly not invite certain classes on certain weeks due to inability to assist the group.@@Luxumbra69
«I don’t play healer but I’m fine with healer affixes» That attitude will not help the game.
Having a fun category on a affix tier video is crazy to me. No affixes besides a few of the season affixes that gave you a benefit are “fun”. Benefit affixes are only good when seasonal though since you have then all tier and dont lose the power after a week.
What are your thoughts on the concept of positive affixes?
I think affixes are just designed in the wrong direction. Key level infinitely scales hp and damage, so affixes should not just disrupt the group in a minor way, but provide a boon for dealing with it. This would mean higher keys are still harder, but players incrementally gain smaller/moderate advantages for fluently answering affixes during the key. Examples off the top of my head, not thought out:
Clearing afflicted with a dispel also cleanses players of any debuffs and provides a very brief immunity to debuffs // clearing with heals will echo the heals to the party (something like seedling perhaps)
All party members avoiding affixes such as volcanic/storming are granted brief haste/secondary stats or dmg, etc... (offsets lost dps from necessary movement?)
The general idea being that affixes don't just feel bad like they do now, but serve as diversions that reward players that juggle it well with the actual key. Kind of reminiscent of the interactable items in slands dungeons where some factions could grant the party a buff or stun mobs etc., mixing that concept with live game affixes.
I think a cool idea for overflowing could be make it a heal absorb that spawns on one random player on a timer. I would lean into a lot of healers dungeon healing which is more historically spot healing. In addition make it "pop" when healed off and give the group a small damage absorb shield (idk just a random cook on that one).
FYI, the link to your discord in the video description doesn't seem to work. Possibly an expired invite link?
EDIT: Never mind, it works now.
Don't we pretty much already have healer affixes in bursting and afflicted? Why do healers need an affix specific to them?
Who wants that ? I stop watching the video after he said bursting is fine
for afflicted to stay everyone needs a tool against it imo whether its something everyone gets in talents or theres some sort of engi item to do it.
My idea to fix afflicted is to add spells that non dispel classes have to the list that fixes them. Make them dispelled by intervene or spirit mend. Allow warlocks to imp dispel.
Incorp should disappear after 1 stop is done to it (and if they get a cast off). Including kicks and single target stuns. That would solve a lot of the problems with it. Maybe make a special case where cc'ing an incorp with a spell with no cd puts it on a 10 second cd (hibernate)
If anyone happens to want to read this long post.
Tyran: I think it is pretty boring and they can never seem to balance bosses to not become annoying with it. My idea would to instead of blanket buff every boss make 1 boss into an uber version of it. Example Fizzlebang portals in and summons a demon portal that takes over the boss and turning into massive boss fight gaining new abilties, hp, and maybe a new phase or two. If the arena doesn't allow for that design wise then the boss steps into the portal and we follow. The boss could be killed and we get dragged into a new boss. One big properly designed fight would feel so much more rewarding then all these single meh boss fights that just take a bit longer.
Fort: This mechanic is generally alright and as long as they could stop designing dungeons every every pack has 2-3 interrupts required I think the difference between non fort and for weeks is small enough but impactful enough it hits the design goal well.
Afflicted: I think this mechanic is boss one of the best designed ones and the worse. My reasoning for this is the mini game of scanning the room every 45 seconds or so feels really good but the fact that only some classes can dispel it feels horrible. I think this mechanic is kind of exactly how explosive should had been designed. every 30-45 seconds you need to keep an eye out for 1-4 mobs that need 1 damaging spell thrown at them and they despawn. Down side is whatever at least it isn't Incorporeal.
Bursting: Only thing I'd personally change about this affix is remove the debuff rolling. Each debuff has it's own duration. Would be a very good affix I think after that.
Incorporeal: Remove this, it is so bad and takes the worst aspects of afflicted and bumps them up to 10 for no reason.
Storming: Really only have a problem with the knock up/back.
Spiteful, Volcanic, Raging (maybe make it so 1 cc removes the immunity), Entangling: Personally think these are fine now that spiteful doesn't have 10 foot arms and while not excited when they show up that don't make me want to log out for the week.
Sanguine, Bolstering, Explosive, Inspiring: These just need to be removed oh, wait most already did get removed. Nothing can save these.
Grievous: As a non healing this seems fine but I don't know if healers dislike or like this I don't notice it much as a tank.
Thanks for reading my rant if you did.
My two cents: If the affixes force you, or your friends to not play, i think something is wrong.
1.Afflicted,incorporeal - only some classes can help, needs rework imo - should be less punishing. also give a scroll to other classes that dont have dispell, cc to help, or something.
2.Sanguine - many of my tanks friend dont even wanna play during such weeks, rework or delete => no tanks, no fun (i also dont wanna tank during those weeks)
3.Spiteful - fun for BM hunter and boomkin, nightmare for melee+melee healers, my melee friends dont even wanna play during such weeks.
4.Raging - rework needed, make aoe CC remove the raging affect so other classes can 'soothe' too. (i agree with you tettles)
Nice vid :)
I feel like the difficulty of tyrannical comes from the health scaling of the bosses. I don't think they should ever get rid of tyrannical and fortified rotating every week. The only change that's needed is Tyr weeks having less health scaling but higher damage scaling imo. As a tank I'm playing completely differently each week, different talents, different trinkets, different stat weights, especially on a tank like my brewmaster alt. (if you've done the same dungeon at the same high level on fort vs Tyr as brm you already know) I don't actively look up routes for mid-high keys like 24-28, even when I do I still have to do things differently depending on multiple factors. having to figure out the most optimal timing for lust, lining up big pulls with my DPSers cooldowns, being able to control the flow of the dungeon based on group comp, then having it all play out perfectly is the most rewarding feeling I've ever experienced in gaming.
As a tank and healer i love bursting. Its a fun healing/utility check.
i swear every ranged player should be forced to play melee for a season atleast
And every melee should be forced to play range. 😂
@@Ruiginaito i have, on multiple occasions. Its chill to twiddle my thumbs for sure.
Entangling on Iridikron... can be very annoying if no freedom / root breaks. Stunned during dps check in the shield... or run out of the shield and die? Miss me with that shit.
Running out of shield during the final burn phase doesn't kill you, just haste redux.
a tip is to stack on the edge, than you will have enough room to run to the other side and get rid of it
bursting used to not be so bad, now it's every cast! same with entangling too
Did a 23 tyranical everbloom yesterday and healer was sittning at 200k and the goups total probbaly 300k+ total healing and maby around 1.4 million dps total and we could not kill the boss, tyranical just plain suxx what do you need 2 million dps and 400-500k+ healing?
tyrannic everbloom bosses really hit like a fkn truck
i just wanna cry when the add spawns on last boss :(
@@wayne3288 yeah i think those Bosses are the rolighest ones in m+ atm, well not first tree taht one aint bad, but the other 3 are hitting like crazy, just swiched to warlock from druid and yeah, it was alot more fun doing those Bosses on a warlock 🤣
I liked the affix where you get positive and negative charge and you cancel out with your teammates
Oh hey look it's almost off season so time for the multitudes of tier lists.
How could you possibly put sanguine in anything above rework, its the only affix that significantly impacts the timer and makes some dungeons dreadful
I still remember the first day of teeming in kings rest. you walk up to the last boss, and there it is the hardest pack ever in all of wow, double shadow of zul xd
God bless it was hotfixed in like 16 hours
Incorporeal are immuning like 50% of my freezing traps lately for some reason, very annoying bug.
any non-tank player will always say that sanguine is fine, so how about we say fine to affixes that stretch the healer :D. Sanguine it's atrocious. And MDI showed how bad it can be. in MDI it was the only affix, where teams actually played the affix instead of a dungeon. One missplay and packs heal for a total of 50 milion HP. Boss gets one tick = dungeon lost.
I actually love afflicted and incorp, but only on classes where I can deal with both mobs by myself. I would hate both of them if I was playing a warrior.
The only affixes you considered good are ones that have nearly no impact on your run. I think this is a sign that the current idea of affixes being a negative effect is bad design. I think if we made affixes positive effects like a 3% haste buff for 15 seconds every time you kill a mob, stacking to 10 times, while tuning dungeons themselves to be more difficult, would be a much better design and would remove the idea of push weeks. I know I'd have more fun if if affixes were like this.
What I don’t like about fortified/tyrannical is feeling pressured to finish dungeons before reset to hit a score threshold the week after. This benefits blizzard though
I'd be really happy if both tyran and fort gone or reworked.
incorp can be targeted by boss abilities too, like the rezan fixate. Idk if that breaks other encounters, but stuff like that is pretty stupid to still be in the game for as long as theyve been affixes.
Also, the bug where they just keep spamming their debuff animation even though theyre ccd is so annoying. And again, ridiculous to be this buggy for this long.
i play holy priest and i cant even heal trough 3 stacks of bursting in random groups, how are people healing 15-20 like wtf
Bursting adds around 15-20% extra damage taken throughout the dungeon, (except to the tank ofc).
Personally I find that to be a bit much for an affix. If dps had to deal 20% extra damage because of one single affix they’d complain, and rightfully so, so having to heal 20% more, while not 1:1 comparable, feels bad.
I think incorp is better than afflicted. with afflicted, it can either summon 1 or 2, and some dps doesnt have dispells. For example 2nd boss in fall, healer has to dispel atleast 1 of the boss mechanic and let 2nd one expire but if u run with a group that only has the healer to dispell its awful. (not really an issue in higher coordinated groups) where as every dps has/can spec into a cc during incorp weeks. So ur gonna get declined in keys if ur a warrior/hunter/rogue or something. it advocates class selection.
Lots of ranged dps tales here.
Playing sanguine at any level as a tank is a nightmare while for dps it is not even an affix.
The opposite is true for spiteful.
bursting is hard for low/pug keys while ignored for non pug keys while bolstering is ignorable on low keys and gets harder each key level showing both suck.
Sanguine should just be removed any affix that makes you debate taking a break for a week is just bad. Many players also don't wanna tank on sanguine week leading to less tanks are more people waiting. Bad affix for lower key pugs atleast imo.
Teeming fix is easy. Don't add mobs, just increase percentage needed to 105%. You're still playing the dungeon not the affix, you just pull an extra group you don't normally pull or maybe change your path.
I liked explosives when I mained prot war and you got victory rush procs off it
Putting afflicted as fine is such as bullshit take. How is this affix fair to classes that don't have dispels? I wanna do keys not spend hours and hours waiting to get accepted
Sanguine is fun in some dungeons and horrible in others. When it's possible to manage it is cool but when pulls consist of mobs that all have different health it gets super annoying. They could pretty easily fix it by just reversing the heal scaling, making the heal scale off of the mob that died instead of the mob getting healed that way tiny mobs that instantly die like everbloom flowers dont heal other mobs millions of health per tick when the small mob only had a million health to begin with
Sanguine is never fun. It’s the worst affix in the game.
Affixes that should not exist in my opinion are affixes that lock out some classes completly. Afflicted and Incorporeal are such affixes. These are affixes that need specific classes to help you with them. I for example can't really play with my warrior in these IDs. Yeah you don't need everyone in your group to be able to help with them but why design affixes that lock some classes out completly. I want to help with them but I can't. I don't have a long CC and I can't dispell. So each time one of them is active I can't really play with some classes.
For the most part, as a shaman I can solo afflicted. Itis the only week i feel my class has utility
Any affix that that can only be handled by a small minority of specs is automatically shit-tier.
spite full is the lest fun affix imo nothing fun to being forced out of melee on melee healers at all
A tier list is silly when they all belong in Delete rank.
The ghost affixes are fun on shaman, but no one plays them so they don’t know. They aren’t too crazy on Druid either.
Entangling on last boss Rise is fun 😅 you have to choose if wiping the raid moving out of the ball or get stunned 😅
Afflicted on second boss Fall also fun where you have to choose either to dispel the affix or dispel the debuff on the player 😅
I would rank all affixes to Delete and call the day 😂
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I realy like season afix, have good memories with pride in shadowlands
Me and my friends used to call out balls all 5 of us lol it was funny but hated how one mispull threw everything off
Pride was fun but I think it should’ve been on a timer instead of % base. This created a lot of issues if the tank or someone pulled something else on accident even like that it was a super fun seasonal.
I miss the positive affixes of shadowlands. It was fun having a buff
Last incorporeal week rly showed me how shit the affix can be.. E.g first boss of rise, where they can spawn on the other side of the platform which can results in shitty baits or wipes, if its during debuff/soak mechanic... feels like there is no counterplay
Teeming would be fun if it didnt affect count and was just filler mobs that auto'd your tank.
Am I the only psycho that really enjoyed Prideful? It felt like making routes and tanking much more skillful and battle commander-esque
Are any of the affixes actually fun? People always say "oh no it is x week."
Volcanic is f tier for classes with channels or no haste-- rip void torrent, aimed shot, mind flay insanity, ect.
Afflicted during 3rd totem boss and you are the only dispeller. How is this fair blizzard? Delete
Sanguine is not fine. An affix that makes many people feel like not even logging in is anything but okay.
Tanking sanguine is not fun at all, especially in dungeons with little space (eg. Waycrest, Blackrook in current season). Also there is little counterplay to mobs starting long uninterruptible casts bathing in sanguine... Another issue is pulling trash on bosses is a pain that is a problem on sanguine tyrannical week where sanguine is already a time loss...
Maybe if lieutenant style mobs and bosses were immune to sanguine it could be reworked but overall it would be better if they remove it and reolace it with some more "fun" affix.
would have put bursting in Delete section definitely : so frustrating affix :( so PUG killer
If every affix was like volcanic then i wouldn’t even check them at the start of the week, bc it would never matter to my gameplay
Tyrannical is fine outside of pugs. Most of the mythic plus community pug. So Tyrannical is the worst affix. On a full 5 man pre made group that can communicate and synchronise defensives at the right time and can practice together alot makes it a good and fun affix. But on the pug side its terrible and extremely stressful for healers
It’s obvious you never heal a dungeon before . Only dps or the 1% would say bursting is fine . Is not not having better healers what makes it easier it’s being in a coordinated group .
Step 1: Delete Bursting forever.
Step 2: Relax, because everything else will be fine after that
Afflicted and incorp are so terrible and unfun, would rather see any of the removed affixes back
Quaking? Lmao.
They both suck but Incorporeal isn't as bad as Afflicted because at least most of the time it isn't taking an ability you need to use for something else and if it's scuffed you can still try to throw a regular interrupt to keep it under control. Bursting is weird as it's almost a reverse difficulty curve to the rest of the dungeon.
bring back teeming, skittish and overflowing, cause i never played them :)
They need to change the color of sanguine. As a colorblind person I can't see it at all.
my main problem with tyrannical and fortified is that theyre both kinda bad? but could be good together in some sense. fortified is the better of the two for sure. but personally i would just remove the alternating and combine them so that we have fortified and tyrannical at ~50% of its current power perma. right now whenever its tyrannical trash just dies and its annoying if youre a setup class. on top of that bosses start taking extremely long especially for how simple they are and one shots is an even bigger problem. fortified isnt as bad and the main problem is that opposite tyrannical then the bosses doesnt really do much. at least compared to tyrannical. trash still feels fine though with maybe a few exceptions each season.
tldr in my opinion combine them so its always good. rather than thinking of each week as now this is trash. either bosses too long / dmg and trash dies too easy. or bosses too easy and a few trash mobs aoe pulsing too much. combine them and balance accordingly.
Afflicted is not fine imo.
As a healer i really want to have dispell available for certain pulls, and dps at +20 to +24 where I play, mostly think it’s a healer affix, which would be fair IF I didn’t require to use my dispell on debuffs from trash mobs. So I’m stuck spending multiple globals healing the afflicted up instead. Horrid design.
And yeah, as others say, spiteful makes melee borderline unplayable that week.
I agree with, but that could be fixed by removing the cooldown on dispel and taking it off the gcd.
@@PeterryomThat would fix it for m+, but completely ruin any and all CC for PvP unfortunately.
@@kafaen2 nah disagree they can just let dispells as they are now in pvp i mean also sime other stuff has diffrent scaling in pvp so it should not be a problem to get dispells without gcd and cd in pve
To me Grievous was easy with resto druid cause with hots you Always kept everybody full hd, but with other healers was so painfull, so hard That in the end i was greateful that blizz deleted That affix
ima say it. Just Remove "on death" Affixes and in place bring back seasonals. Be an easier way of getting rid of the affixes people hate the most tho i will say afflicted isnt fun either but the on death affixes have always just been horrible imo. seeing them go all throughout next xpac would really make M+ even more enjoyable for me rather then just pushing 2k-2.5k and then just stop pushing on my main.
Spiteful is by far the most annoying for me and the one I would want out of the game the most. Shadow Priest (2800 io). Pretty mid. So not on the cutting edge, but not on the casual side either.
I don't think there's any affix that's "fun", simply because when you think about them you don't think "great, i love to play this" but rather "well, that's not as bad as X".
afflicted is so much worse than incorp honestly. Nearly every class has some form of single target cc. also that cc is often not used for anything else. the purge tax is real though. running rise is near undoable on afflicted
As a tank all i can say REMOVE STORMING I HATE BEING AIRBORNE 50% OF THE TIME
Looks like the vote is in, everything that isn't just "dodge this mechanic" needs to be deleted/reworked. What is even the point of M+ affixes anymore? Because it's clearly not to add interesting mechanics.
Blizzard adds enough interesting mechanics to the dungeon itself.
i hate sanguine and bolstering so much. they ruin weeks, which is anti-fun
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Afflicted should be deleted for the same reason explosive was, because it's a healer mechanic exclusively
But it isnt.
Make affixes fun.. optional buffs that you can take advantage of at certain times to help clear keys. M+ infinitely scales who cares if it becomes easier
If the counter play to an affix is to literally stop playing the game, then it's a bad affix and needs to be deleted.
Clearly not doing a lot of healing. All affixes that require the use of dispel needs to be reworked. There are mechanics that also need to be dispelled. Or dispel cd has to go away.
spiteful can be fun, but as melee the auto attack start from them before they finish spawning
affixes that force compositional restrictions are straight up bad
Incoporial can kiss my ass! Countless times I’ve tossed me freezing trap on where it looks like it’s spawning and it doesn’t activate my trap. Or the tank has to move the mobs to where it’s spawning for some reason and my trap hits a different mob. I don’t like that affix at all.
Hate spitful. as a healer, ppl just eat the spiteful and put stress on the healer.
Maybe add "in 28 keys" to the title. 90% of the players dont play higher than a 22 and dont have a 7 min bossfight on tyran weeks
It's probably closer to 99.9% than 90%.
yes and in your 5 minute baby keys none of the affixes matter
i fucking hate all these pve carebears.
hey dude next time explain what affixes do before, some newer players like me don't know the old ones
Is it too much to ask to just give us 12 new never seen before affixes next expansion. Like comon we're paying so much, give us new and exciting stuff man. Atleast make it so none of the dungeons will be from previous expansions, cause thats just done cause they wanna save money..
I don’t agree with your tiers to be honest - I can’t see why a bad affix would sit in ‘bad’ that wouldn’t go into either rework or delete.
Also, ‘fun’ is an odd choice to me. I’d probably have picked ‘engaging’ instead. The distinction being that something can feel meaningful and occupy your attention without it really being fun in and of itself.
I’ve been okay with affixes generally but the more the conversation goes on and especially after seeing your video I’m actually pretty certain that removing all affixes would be better.
Seasons are like 6 months long now with a rotating dungeon pool. I just don’t feel like the affixes add much flavour any more.
If people could endure the same dungeons for 2 years WITH affixes I honestly cannot fathom a world where people tire more quickly of dungeons in a 6 month rotation WITHOUT affixes.
No one sees any single one of these affixes and says ‘yes, I’m excited to do keys this week.’
Affixes solely exist in a world where we feel relieved when the week is over and we no longer have to endure them and we’re just grateful for anything different.
The overarching problem to me is that affixes just aren’t very creative. They don’t usually meaningfully change the experience of running a dungeon (and usually get in the way of it) and if that’s the case then I don’t see the point.
In regards to these points I think if we’re keep affixes then we should opt for tyrannical, fortified and a single interesting seasonal affix that meaningfully changes how you play the dungeon (like encrypted).
I’d remove the increased health component of tyran completely too. Increased damage is okay tbh but the increased health sucks.
When you look at your list there’s 8 that deserve(d) to be deleted, 2 rework, 2 bad.
That means that 60% of all affixes suck according to this list. That says to me that affixes have overall been a failed experiment and it’s time for a major change.
Necrotic as a heal absorb per stack could be fun, healer and tank get to HPS the stacks off.
None of the affixes should fall under "fun"