Persona Protagonists VS Jojo Protagonists (With MetiNTBG)
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Yes that is right ladies and germs it is time for the fight no human beings want to analyze because it's such a stupid task. Luckily non humans Fither, Flair and Meti are here to spend an hour talking about a fight between these characters that were never meant to be analyzed in this way.
Meti;
/ @metinotthebadguy
Tweet me; @fitherfith
Persona 1 guy Spin kicks in the opposite direction of Tusk Act 4, canceling it out.
Underated Comment
R E A L S H I T
A real intellectual
The ultimate counter to the power of infinity, boy with earing spin kick
@karim benyoucef Makoto cancels that,
Persona guy: Punches Giorno covered in ladybugs
Damage is reflected
Persona guy: Has reflect phys
o h n o
Ah shit the turn won't end anymore
If this happens in Persona it's just considered blocked
I've changed this comment so it doesn't make sense.
@@ceasendesist8476 in game if you attack a repel phys with phys the attack is reflected back and then considered blocked it doesn't go on forever of course the lady bugs have reflect all but still take damage before they reflect it back as that is the stand ability so it would likely still just kill all the ladybugs for that reason and if it's an attack all skill will even hurt gio gio as an added bonus also I'm still a little bit miffed at that whole shooting me thing honestly I thought it was too obvious and that you just came to bust me out so we could take Shido together while making him feel safe but nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
It would just continue to happen
Universe Arcana: Exists
Jotaro: So it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum
Also Jotaro: Another one to add to my collection
Star Platinum: ZA UNIVERSE!
Was that a jojo reference
Thats should be jotaros power the power of plot armor its confirmed but araki was like nah its too op.
Underrated
so basically giorno and minato have a gigantic no u argument untill the end of time
but time doesn't end because they don't let it end
But giorno did it first👌
ok let me explain ger
he trys to no u but then he cant for all time
cosmiccosmog And Minato passively uses no u, therefore, Minato should win. Eventually.
@@Appl3forPFP rtz is also a passive ability, whenever giorno gets attacked rtz activates
The Minato Giorno fight already happened and that's why they are separate franchises - couldn't kill each other so they just separated themselves
yeah, they're in the timeline of the universe reset.
"Mommy and daddy need some time away from each other to work things out," Jacked up to the highest degree.
The only way both “no u”s could happen was by both stopping existing for each other, therefore universes split
Tbh giorno needs one punch then. It ends because infinite death
@@MeedyMedia Minato is already In that state though
Universe Arcana vs GER is the epitome of *Well yes, but actually no*
Minato: no u.
Giorno: No u.
Minato: *NO U.*
Giorno: *N O U.*
Giorno: *N O YU.*
That is a very true statement
Not how it works giorno just reverses actions. So minato cant do anything so he gets hit and infinite death loop
Meedy Media and yet the universe arcana is all powerful so
It’s a stalemate
Giorno: You don't exist anymore
Minato: No u
Giorno: I know u don't but I do
*imagine this going for the rest of the multiverse's existence to get a good representation of Giorno vs Minato*
LegendOfSonic I imagine them childishly slapping at each other but not really hitting anything until someone calls for their parents and make an universe where they have parents out of depression.
And Johnny is just siting the corner.
I really just imagine Minato and Giorno locking eyes, Minato pulls out his Evoker, Giorno summons GER, and they just both immediately disappear, and are never seen again
@@constantanxietyattacks6878 ignoring the fact GER doean't work like that, the universe arcana didn't need the evoker to be used
Minato:but I'm already dead
GER: “You’ll never reach the truth”
Narukami: “What?”
Good job sir, that doesnt even true
Yu: I am truth
@@BeybladeIsASport While GER may never let me reach yu, a ladder will help
Yu: *MYRIAD TRUTHS!*
@@BeybladeIsASport GER: very well then *pops him out of existence
I love how this ended with the Jesus of Jojo and Persona arguing with each other, best ending
“The Jesus of jojo” you know Jesus is a character in jojo
@@insectoid_creature well, the Jesus of the first 6 parts of Jojo at least
Both are Jesus tho
Gay Italian Jesus and Anime Emo Jesus
@@diornodiovanna2838 no that's Speedwagon
Jesus is literally Messiah from P3
When two guys can't decide who's the dungeon master that's golden experience requiem vs universe arcada
Its just two little kids going "Nuh uh you didnt hit me I have a shield!" "Oh I have a spear that goes through your shield!" "My shield cant be broken by spears!" "My Spear breaks any shield!"
Until the end of time
_A phenomena rarely witnessed in nature._
Minato,Yu,Akira has the big advantage because of there dancing skills
I found the best comment in this entire comment section
Torture dance nullifies that advantage.
Their*
One has not experienced a good torture dance
@@noe4354 problem is. Nothing indicates that Giorno himself did/joined the dance
The way I see it:
At first the fight goes fairly normal, with everyone fighting in their normal states. Nobody dies, just barely, due to both Giorno and Josuke healing the Jojos and the persona guys being able to heal each other. The P1 guy is able to stop the insta kills from Johnny by muting him, while Akira (Yes I'm calling him Akira) uses status affects like brainwash and despair to stop Jolyne from entering their bodies and killing them, along with confusing any living creatures Giorno attempts to summon. The battle goes on for a while and everyone starts to get pretty worn out so they decide to break out the big guns, literally. Akira summons Satanael and fires the massive fucking bullet. Johnny responds by activating Tusk Act 4 and begins firing infinite rotation shit at the bullet. Josuke stands by him and helps him continually grow new fingernails to keep firing. P1 protag goes to spin kick Josuke to stop him but Jolyne wraps him up, preventing them from fighting any further. Akira and Yu rush for Johnny and Josuke and begin a scuffle. Meanwhile Tatsuya and Jotaro both stop time. Jotaro fights against Apollo but manages to slip by him and deliver a volley of punches to Tatsuya. When time starts again Tatsuya goes flying and is almost knocked unconscious. Jotaro moves on to deal with Yu, while Josuke continues to handle Akira, now one on one. Tatsuya flees via his motorcycle. Things are mostly in a stalemate so both Giorno and Makoto go to end it. Gold Experience Reqium is summoned along with the Universe Arcana. Both of them try to fuck with the universe and their combined power ends up splitting the universe in two. One universe where Makoto is defeated along with Yu, Akira and the P1 fucker. And a second universe where Giorno is defeated along with Jotaro, Johnny, Josuke and Jolyne. But Tatsuya survives in both universes because he fled the fight. Shortly after the victory Tatsuya goes to June, unaware that the universe is now split in two and the fight is over, and he activates his ability. This causes both universes to be torn apart and merge back into one universe, one where the fight never occurred and everyone is safe.
damn...that's something
Haha yeah Giorno and Makoto is the only one worth noting really.
Jun*
I imagine that at some point in the fight, Minato and Giorno just lock eyes, simultaneously activate their abilities, and then they just both disappear and are never heard from again as their little baby slap fight continues for eternity outside of time, and everyone else continues their fight as normal without their input.
Tatsu can stop time and split universe sht so yeah
I imagine Minato and Giorno just drinking tea on the sidelines
Pinecone Gaming Giorno drinking piss
Pheromone tea!
++Charm!
@@jotarokujo5731 Minato needs high courage so he can drink Abbachio Piss tea
There they were eating before setting sail, narancia is about to drink wine but then came a guy with all white suit. The man bumps into narancia spilling the wine on him, the man goes into surprise and starts to argue and then narancia punches him knocking the man into the floor and so narancia or mista say it must be the enemy going after them and so mista and narancia go kicking the man. The camera goes to abbacchio who is drinking his wine calling them stupid then the camera cuts to him joining them, the man helpless then one of them comes to their senses and realizing he isn't even a enemy and some random citizen. Then they go back to eating all calm about it
Funniest shit ever
Giorno:(takes a sip) this isn’t tea!
"The most deadly thing in Persona and JoJo is a gun."
*JoJo :*
*17 year old school boy stops time, other guy deletes time, a 15 year old kid can create life out of inaminate objects, some other guy completely destroys universes* yeah the strongest thing in jojo is definitely a gun.
@@pingusmingus it's a cool gun tho
*literally stops a bullet at point blank range*
@Jayden Let's not forget I stopped a bullet from hitting me full on with my stand
Rafi Johnny was shot like 5 times and LIVED.
Minato's Universe and Giorno's GER are the big boys here.
Full Omnipotence Vs Absolute Nullification...lets just call it a stalemate.
LegendOfSonic I just see it as that episode of adventure time with the two clones Princess Bubblegum made that just stare at eachother forever.
you cant nullify infinity. . .
LegendOfSonic where the hell are you getting omnipotence from?Minato's best feat is becoming a door.He never defeated nyx,much less someone like philly or nyarly.Hell,ger isnt even the strongest member on the team.That goes to star platinum over heaven.
Yeah he did because in eyes of heaven girono can nullify pucci's stand which has infinite speed so basically it is zero times infinity.
Repeat after me, kids. "Eyes of Heaven isn't canon."
Yu narukami takes the "be an ass and leave" option as soon as possible.
Sauceinmyface I chose to help out the fellow athletes to not seem an asshole but I bet yu would do that
I don't think he would cause usually he would just charge at the enemy and just fight it until he dies.He doesn't even think twice about just backing out of a fight he isn't a coward.
Sauceinmyface nah that’s minato
"I'll just leave them be"
Yu would realize the truth that the timeline was divided into two separate timelines then yeah he just gonna give up and leave
Next Video. Speedwagon vs The Entire Persona Universe
Jacob Juarez Dude that's like fucking Goku Mastered Ultra Instinct Vs. Farmer with a Shotgun. Speedwagon will ABSOLUTELY SLAP everybody in the Persona universe, break through time and space, and slap around YHVH.
Jacob Juarez speedwagon aint got shit on my boi
DIRE
Smokey Haze thats such a one sided fight how can Goku best the farmer
That's not fair we are talking about Speedwagon he kill them
Unfair, how about God vs speedwagon, even that is one sided, speedwagon kills all
Door-kun didn't have to use an evoker to use the universe arcana.
This doesn't include the universe arcana and Gold Experience requiem
Pretty sure he did
@@Pegyson what use an evoker? he didin't
@@nickbarlas5544 in the last fight
I'm pretty sure he shot himself to seal Nyx
@@Pegyson nope, he raised his arm up to the sky and lifted his finger. ruclips.net/video/BBpVEfJV3Ps/видео.html
The persona 1 protag can do something johnny cant.
Spinkick
Why does my mind conjure the image of johnny trying to do those two breakdance moves with spinninglegs
@@genericprotaganist5042 I AM THE SUPREME GOD OF THIS WORLD.
@@thegreatest5251 so if noidle-leg Johnny does a spinning kick dance move, he becomes god
@@genericprotaganist5042 MY POWER IS UNFATHOMABLE TO PUNY MORTALS
@@thegreatest5251 ill take that as a yes
The bigger question is when are we gonna get a JoJo X SMT/Persona cross over
SuperFusionAJ93 True
I would whizz a river if that happened
a jojo jrpg in a style like p5 sounds cool, a crossover is either an epic crossover, or a fucked up pile of spaghetti
SuperFusionAJ93 If they do, it would be most likely in a fighting game like P4AU
@@Violetenist don't worry, Josuke will fix that spaghetti.
Persona debuffs don't matter because jojo stats don't matter
@Bobby Hill keep lying to yourself
@Bobby Hill he is not wrong gold experience has c in power which is human strength yet that golden boi is able to punch and damage cars steel concrete etc same for duribllity he has d yet is able to survive punches from people with A in power and other damage
@Bobby Hill No they genuinely don't. The stat's they show don't line up with the feats we see the stands perform, they are also extremely inconsistent from stand to stand. Polnareff's Silver Chariot has a C in destructive power despite being said to be able to cut through anything even fire and nothingness. They are about as irrelevant as RPG stats to the games actual plot. Like how Shinji can survive being hit with a Tank shells from a shadow or multiple bullet wounds from a confused Aigis' but still get killed by Takaya's revolver.
@Bobby Hill yeah in ONLY and that still has been many times inconsistent like emperor stand stat in precision is A FUCKING E and speed is a B yet we seen hol horse being able to control the bullets when silver chariot at Max speed tried to stop it in mid air the bullet moved out the way and went back to the same spot it was fired meaning its speed has to be higher then no armor chariot who is A in speed with armor an its precision has to be more then E to be able to do what it did so again stand stats are inconsistent
@Bobby Hill my point is you lazy idoit is your wrong stand stats are shit
Speedwagon Solos all of them.
Adachi and Speedwagon vs. Everyone. The winner is quite obvious.
AdachiTheThotSlayer thats common knowledge though.
Speedwagons stand is heaven ascended corpse part infused abs act 4 requiem
Speedwagon vs anyone. He just beats them because hes speedwagon
Speedwagon wins, because no one can harm him.
Johnny gives Jolyne infinite rotation that she can control with Mobius strip. Wrecks face.
BlandyBoi and then you hear: WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT MY HAIR?!?!
spinkick
I want someone to animate some of these hypotheticals, like Akira executing Johnny.
Same, specially the BULLET STRUGGLE MASH SQUARE
Johnny is weak to gun
Dolphinboi im dying here cause of you
It’s nothing personal kid
@@kirinixx johnny is gun himself
Josuke stomps all of them
If Josuke can know if a bird or dog is making fun of his hair he will KNOW if the protags are.
Angry Josuke would be able to negate statuses shown by heavens door and has a minor pain resistance.
Yeah but would the Persona guys laugh at his hair though. They have seen some fashion monsters in their lifetimes
Chances are the Joestars would insult his hair and the persona guys would ignore as they have seen their fair share of “unique” hair
Dolphinboi reverse rub on himself.
What a true duwang warrior
The only reason why heaven's door didn't work was because josuke was so mad that he ignored heaven's door (hd requires the victim to see the manga). josuke can't negate them at best he can ignore them and charge in
So all I get from this is that Gold Experience Requiem is the ultimate yandare
Lone Lion Wow
I literally never fucking thought of it that way
Makes sense
Giorno Senpai
B-Baka! Time to infinitely die! Not like I care or anything!
Narukami sees through Araki's bs
Yep especially GER because it can reverse fucking anything and I mean anything, doesn’t matter what. It’ll just get reversed.
@@dlosparrow4429 it's not reversed, it's negated, which in my opinion is worse.
Dlo Sparrow universe Arcana.
@@jonathanflanagan1504 No, its reversed. In his fight with Diavolo, GER sets the entire fight back to vero, as if the fight just started. In the anime, you can even see Diavolo being forced to move to his original position.
@@dlosparrow4429 no
I think we are all forgetting the communication advantage the Persona protags have.
Jolyne could possibly speak English, Italian (from her mom), and Japanese (from Jotaro). But she probably speaks Italian and Japanese at very basic "Spanglish" level that many second gen immigrants have. Giorno probably also speaks English and Japanese at a very basic level from his parents, but he would still face a major language barrier. Not to mention Josuke probably only speak Japanese-High-school-english-class engrish, and he probably got a D in that, so Jotaro would have to translate more complex orders between him and Johnny. They metion that Jotaro is a good student and he has Holly to practice with, so he probably speaks fluent English and Japanese, even more so if he's Part 4 Jotaro. And Johnny of course only speaks English, maybe picking up some key Italian phrases from Gyro.
All the while, the persona protags can all speak to each other just fine and easedrop on Jotaro's and Josuke's orders.
Bikemaster11 Languages aren't genetic lol. Giorno wouldn't learn english from Dio seeing how they never met. He would only have Italian and maybe some basic Japanese since his mom wasn't around much either. English on him would be learned from school i guess
Musomania27 i thought that dio at least stayed around for an year or so? Maybe a remembered it wrong.
Bikemaster11 Nah. Dio just hits it and quits it. The mother was special in that he left her alive unlike most of the women he bangs (same for the the mothers of his sons in part 6 i would assume)
Cant giorno just fucking cut parts of their brain and put in dirt that truns into a brain part that speaks his language?
i question everythin g that's a galaxy brain idea
You forgot one thing that doesn't change anything: Yu goes all 'Sore wa chigao yo!' fires a truth bullet and now (maybe?) everyone knows the truth of the situation and then they stop fighting.
Sergio Maravilla
I never played no persona game but i doubt they have fourth wall breaks as a serious power
"Sore wa chigao yo" is something from the Danganronpa series, along with the truth bullets. Since P4 is all about reaching out to the truth, I (tried) making a joke about it...
then Giorno goes *Shinjitsu ni tōtatsu suru koto wa kesshite nai* and everyone continues fighting
@@iquestioneverything3426 Yu can however one shot nuke his enemies with "The Truth"
@@immaguitar3640 *giorno reverses it*
What about the most broken persona hack the power of friendship
Who needs power of friendship if u have *SPEEDWAGON*
@@felipeangelo6073 - SPEEDWAGON is a god
That isn't enough to defeat speedwagon.
@@fink_rat
Maybe not, but a massive bullet constructed of both the seven deadly sins and the combined willpower of the human race probably would
@@tergartcunninghan2013 wrong, you obviously dont understand the power of best waifu speedwagon
Now we need the villains battling each other. Kandori, Sudou, Takaya, Adachi, and Akechi (since Shiro doesn't fight) vs. DIO, Kira, Diavolo, Pucci, and Valentine.
...Scratch that, the winner is much more clear-cut this time.
Monado Ace
What if we include the final persona bosses? The ones that are gods? They would definitely end the base Jojos.
as in [spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler] and [spoiler]?
if we include twoh and d4c,then persona is fucked hard.nyarly cant carry that hard against multiple universals,and unfortunately he's the only persona villain on that level.
@karim benyoucef i mean persona a gods that are univeres level and above in their world that could and would stomp all of them
@karim benyoucef the only one i can see winning is really GER, Notorious B.I.G (maybe), and MiH (maybe), and prolly even D4C (maybe). I said alot of maybes because Personas still are ridiculously strong, im taking their attacks by their animation, type, and damage type. So basically, any high magic Persona user with concentrate + megidolaon can incinerate almost all the stands basically. Since megidolaon is an all mighty attack, it *_it can hit anything and damage it_* , and with that, SP, Heaven Door (also why bring Rohan up? Hell die really fast againts a Persona user), Tusk Act 4 (you still need Johnny), D4C (even with L.T), etc. The only one i can see nullifying it is GER, and the only one who can survive it is GER and possibly Notorious B.I.G
Edit: I'm not gonna bring TW:OH, it's fucking not canon and you cant convince me with that
48:58
"yu narukami gives the biggest friendship speech of his life"
is a much more powerful statement than first thought
What I took away from this is that there is a universe where everyone gets taken out by a Spinkick
There’s a universe where Diavolo gets killed by Spinkick
The persona protagonists got yoshitsune
They can cheese their way out of the jojos
5-Persona Hassou Tobi. 40 Hits of Light Physical Damage guaranteed.
@@dootdoot3642 armageddon says hi
@@gulsevim2441 FACTS.
@@dootdoot3642 in p3 you have pralaya skill card
Only 2 of them have Yoshitsune I'm pretty sure. At the very least p3 guy doesnt
The method I would suggest for the Joestars: Cut off Josuke’s hand, throw blood at persona people, cover Johnny’s nails in Josuke’s blood, Giorno heals his arm, Johnny shoots his nails while Josuke does what he did to the glass to attack Kira on the nails.
Homing nail bullets
Tetrakarn, which all of the persona users have, and the JoJo's are fucked
@@terrific4715 Giorno can give each one of the Jojos a frog that reflects the attack if we are playing the "Tetrakarn" game.
The Ultimate McNugget Nagi old comment but Tetra break Might work on the reflecting for the jojos
Wouldn’t the nails go to Josuke because it originated from him? Also it wouldn’t work in the first place because he can’t reverse himself
That would take a lot of planning to do, so it wouldn't work. These characters all speak different languages. The persona MC's all speak japanese
persona: eyes of heaven
Dezha Vhu that would be cool
Everyone:DIO
Dio:ayo who tf are these guys
as a power scaler this will ethier make me pissed off or really happy
as a person on the internet i think we know which one it's gonna be
Jouta Kujo
Well why are you really mad this time ?
Jouta isn't canon
@@drrafa4031 I hope so
I wanna know what would happen if the investigation team helped the Moriohcho warriors find Kira
they would spend their days happily together bonding until something happen
Bryson Lepage
Nothing would be any different. They both spend the majority of the series dicking around until something happens.
Naoto exists.
@@revolvingworld2676 and we would enjoy every second of it
Honestly same but they also got Teddy and Rise so they could pretty much track him down ASAP.
I don't know if it's been done, but imagine Ren/Akira in the famous Weeb Killer position Filthy Franku-Sama does. Just there. In the corner. Just shootin'.
I imagined Satanael doing it with him, and now I can't unsee it.
No clue why they just dumbed Joker down to “gun” but I’m fine with it just because it opens up this opportunity.
@@GobaGNon because *gun*
@@GobaGNonfor his neutral special, he fires a gun
45:08 Why do I imagine Johnny just screeching as all of this goes down?
Josuke: "Hold on Johnny!"
Giorno: "You can do this, we believe in you!"
Johnny: " *_UWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA_* "
Lmao
I feel like it's worth mentioning that Minato doesn't pull his evoker when he casts Great Seal. He literally just points his finger to his head, so the foresight of Golden Experience would have to be a bit higher since I feel like that would be more subtle than pulling a gun.
Jobros vs Persona bros
Junpei vs Avdol
Shinjiro vs Kakyoin
Akihiko vs Polnareff
Koromaru vs Iggy
Yosuke vs Koichi
Kanji vs Okuyasu
Teddie vs Shigechi
Ryuji vs Mista
Yusuke vs Buccellati
Akechi vs Fugo
Morgana vs Abbachio
Nah, Nah, Junpei fights Polnareff and Aki fights Avdol, Morgana fights Narancia and Akechi fights nobody, and Ann fights Trish and Makoto fights Abbacchio.
Advol is my favorite medicine.
Mr Junior
Junpei Vs Avdol is a stomp. Junpei is immune to fire attacks.
LegendOfSonic but isn't magician's red fire different tho?
Mr Junior
Looks like fire, acts like fire, gets put out by regular water.
Only difference between it and regular fire is that it's invisible.
To fix Makoto VS Giorno, just think of this, does the Universe function exactly like Over Heaven, or differently. If it functions like Over Heaven, Makoto slaughters all the Jojo’s, if it doesn’t, it’s likely that the Jojo’s wins.
From what I remember, the universe gives him full omnipotence and it can do pretty much anything Makoto desires. Its basically infinite potential.
In one corner Joker and Johnny having the hypest gun duel of all time with Josuke being the ammunition guy
In the next corner Persona 1 guy and jolyen just sitting there being MUDA
The 3rd corner Apalo and star platname haveing all out time stop warfare
And in the 4th corner yu is just SPITTIN SOME TRUTHS
Tetsuya is ramming June in the center.
And some still say minato and giorno are still arguing like children to this very day
*P3 Guy*
could of called either Minato, Makoto, or Door kun
DOOR-KUN IS HIS OFFICIAL NAME CAUSE YES
They go into an RPG mindset (especially D&D\MMO):
"Take out the healers first!"
What if there are two healers healing each other?
@@owenbridgers Take them out simutaneously or get fucked.
@@owenbridgers You just need to harm more than they can heal
This is the power of *「S C H L O C K R E Q U I E M」*
Ovah Heaven
"don't worry guys, yu's izagami blocks dark"
HAHAHAHA
I like imagining these as one-on-one battles. (I’ll be calling P1 guy “Naoya,” P3 guy “Makoto,” and Joker “Ren.”) Specifically:
Naoya vs. Jolyne (Because they’re the most pathetically weak HA)
Tatsuya vs. Jotaro (Time stoppers)
Yu vs. Josuke (Because of the similarities between Part 4 and Persona 4)
Ren vs. Johnny (THE BULLET STRUGGLE MASH SQUARE)
Makoto vs. Giorno (Universe busters)
EDIT: The comment about Naoya and Jolyne being pathetically weak is mostly a joke. They're just the weakest of their respective groups.
Eh, should've put Joker vs Jolyne, since they're both jailbirds. 5/10
Naoya and Joylene eliminate each other cause they matter less than someone fucked by GER. Tatsuya wins cause Nova Kaiser/Apollo got range on Jotaro. Josuke alone is crushed, specially with Yu using his tanking of phys damage. The bullet mash happens and Akira tries to cheap shot a cripple, just to realize Act 4 can act on its own and get murdered. Minato and Giorno have a no u battle till the end of time, which is when Tatsuya goes to get a celebratory fuck from Jun and annihilates reality
+Andres Arancio Jolyne is a much more significant character than "Naoya" however.
"because of the similarities between Part 4 and Persona 4"
_lolyes,_ I kept thinking that to myself throughout persona 4
they're both small-town mysteries where friends find the truth (there was even an ambulance-kun, but it didn't kill Adachi)
but jokers bullets cant do damage because its a toy gun
No mention of Naoya and Tatsuya being able to fight Nyarlothotep?
Or Naoya waltzing into Pandora's realm and taking her out
@@jimphoenix494 they're shit at scaling
@@TheEmperorRaidou Yeah lol
@@TheEmperorRaidou hey im you
@@naoyatoudou1039 You must be one of "me's" That's exist inside my souls. but anyways, how do you feel about another us getting disrespected even though we solo all of Jojo? lol
i love how in this video half the questions are "how does persona work?"
Could Makoto, Yu or Ren use their swag-tastic charm on Jolyne and convince her to help the Persona side?
Chunky Tubs charming jolyne is like trying to charm a woman on her period.Its best to avoid the beast while you still can.
Don't forget Tatsuya's supposed "bad boy loner" charm. However, none of it does jackshit. Jolyne's not into relationships after what happened with Romeo.
Chunky Tubs maybe it would be the opposite simply due to
Nothing beating the Joestar sex drive
Patrick Doran jotaro did.He wasn't exactly the most thirsty member of the family.
Patrick Doran Ok The real question is... P3-5tagonist swag charm versus Joestar Sex Drive, who would win?
You also forget that Minato's Orpheus also has Cadenza, which is a full-party healing spell that buffs evasion. It's instant healing to everyone on the team. It would significantly increase the survivability of the Persona team, and at a 20% SP cost it could bring the Persona team back from the brink whenever they needed it.
persona: were gonna win
Jojo: no were gonna win
King crimson: hold my future
G.e.r: hold my truth.
Universe Arcana: Hold my dread
Killer Queen: hold my hayato
Araki: *hold my mind*
Me: Hold my hat
The bit about Joker’s gun not being useful in the first battle is strange to me, because Shinya’s final ability lets Joker ignore gun resistances/immunity/drain.
P1 guy has a machine gun
And didn’t they defeated maki in her world (thats a big thing)
True
OOtaku
Yeah but I mean spin kick tho
@@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 No. AR stands for Armalite Rifle. As in Armalite Rifle 15.
@@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 Ann can't even aim it correctly lmao.
@@supersaiyan4songoku980 someone didn't build well
Wait if P2 kun destroyed the universe and than P3 kun remakes the universe without the jojos does that mean they win?
Now you have another universe of jojos
@@llama64ligit10 or does gold experience have its hands full dealing with the universe arcana that's the question because p2 kun isn't specifically targeting anyone and those 2 are evenly matched meaning that technically since the universe arcana isn't tied to P3 kun igor would be the one picking up the pieces in all likelihood because everyone outside the velvet room is gone
Giorno can just say, "excluding me" and he will still exist, or just prevent universe from being destroyed at first place
@@ДегдарТуменбаев I would like to note that dio over heaven has the ability to overwrite reality with his own will similar to that of the universe arcana and dio over heaven was able to overwrite GER's ability also if they are truly even they would be to busy dealing with each other to notice Tasuya and his universe destruction is technically not am antagonistic act toward Giorno as its an AOE that targets everything indiscriminately so not necessarily
@@joshuamedina6807 Dio over heaven isn't canon my dude
nah, an agidyne wouldn't kill Jotaro
> Wheel of Fortune
I'm joking, it probably would
So we're just gonna forget about Maya and Aegis huh?
Super Saiyan 4 Son Goku yeah, to make it a 5v5
@@tataladdd4251 I mean Maya was MC of her own game, and Josuke (Part 8) is missing, so they could have made it 6v6...
Shayan Siddiqi but part 8 is still ongoing so we have no clue if Gappy is going to get godlike power at the end and if he does than we don’t know what it is
Lol ok, atleats jojo more original in abilities
@@butter9025 huh?
Guys you are forgeting the versatility avantage of the persona protagonists. They can change their personas in the middle of battles. So, They are kind of Attacking defensive healers type of thing.
Ps. Sorry for my grammar im Brazilian.
They actually took that into consideration with the whole "Ishtar with Mediarama" thing, but not only it's just better to just compare only the Main personas because exploring 200 personas is bullshit, and either way, Spin Kick would save it
Trumpeter with Reflect everything and Megidola with an ability to regenerate 8% HP and SP per "Turn". All the Jojos can really do is either "Punch" or "Shoot" and at that point nothing can beat the Persona user. Im spacificly refering to Joker but I think Minato/Makoto and Yu could also do it. Now you could argue G.E.R wins this transaction HOWEVER Minato/Makoto can also have Reflect Almighty. I dont know about you but G.E.R sounds like its attempting an almighty attack. So. G.E.R attempts the Infinate Death Loop on Door Kun and it just gets reflected and happens to Giorno/G.E.R instead
@@sirsmellybottom7480 you have no idea how ger works.
Kuro Boio I do. Its just "No you didn't" the ability. But that kinda dosn't matter. The Jojos cant hurt the persona users. At worst its an infinite stalemate because the Persona users cant kill tge Jojos and vice versa. But if the Persona users can kill Giorno the Persona users win. Basically. If Giorno attacks P3,4,5 he dies cuz reflect. If Persona users attack Giorno its just a nullification.
@@sirsmellybottom7480 False,its also a set on WILL nullification,along with Gers "Infinite" stats I'd say giorno has this fight already in the bag,and i doubt the persona users would be able to directly "reflect" one of gers attacks. If not fully bypassing it all together. Hell if the persona DID put up the reflect shields then I'm fairly certain that ger would revert THAT to zero as well. After all "None who stand before me shall arrive at the "truth" no matter what abilities they wield." This is a CLEAR statement of ger saying Fuck you and your abilities.
Speedwagon's [F E A R] VS Morgana's [S C H L E E P]
If one of them has a persona with null phys they're pretty much invincible in the first round
Giorno while turning everyone's shirt into reflective frogs : "block this"
@@youwouldntremembermeanyway7410 Naoya blitzing everyone: "EAT THIS"
@@youwouldntremembermeanyway7410 A lot less cover than Reflect Physical. The Jojos would perish
@@egbertmilton4003 it depends, he can just make millions of flies to block them.
@@aldrinmilespartosa1578 And yet he never makes them, so unless he is the stupidest man on the planet, he will probably not use it. Even then, there are other types like Null Phys or Drain Phys. We don’t really know how his animals interact with elemental attacks never mind Almighty Attacks. He and the Jojo team are fucked.
If we're talking ultimate abilities; shouldn't they use Star Platinum: The World Over Heaven for Jotaro? I mean even if it's noncanon, it is still arguably the strongest incarnation of the character.
It's because that's noncanon that it's not used.
@@kmaple9 same thing as not using anything from spin offs for persona
@@wesleyjones4036 all the spin offs are canon except for the dancing games
@@mizzix I'm pretty sure Persona x Detective (the novel) wasn't canon since it contradicts Arena which we know is canon.
@@Sheenulus oh well,living and learning
13:30 someone literally died and Giorno said no
I like this video. Throw in Demi-Fiend as an optional boss and you've got the perfect crossover.
Put dante from devil may cry
Throw Demi Fiend in and there is nothing either side can do to win. Even Tusk Act 4 and Golden Experience Requiem are royally fucked.
@@xecillmaze4740 But its SMT thing
(I know persona is spin off of smt , i just wanna make a joke about some people who claim that he is persona fans but dont know smt exist)
might as well put in raidou kuzunoha
You have to realize... Prime Star Platinum knew exactly where *ZA WARUDO's* leg was while blind and punch it so hard it exploded during Jotaro's Fight with BEEFY DIO...
jotaro used star platinums eyes to see while he was blinded by dio's blood
What if... the persona protagonists just walk into the velvet room to heal, or joker just keep opening the door and taking shots at the jojos.
They at least want a proper fight to happen.
Bohemian Rhapsody Jesus VS Literal HITLER is the real question we should be asking here
Believe it or not, but I’ve never clicked so fast.
Jotaro can star succ the fog. Its perfect.
Josuke’s hack is someone insulting his hair
Basically in the BS round, all of Joker’s moves is his neutral special
YES
Cringe comment
Giorno uses sense-acceleration, Akira uses Salvation.
This is clearly the conversation we were all looking forward
We need this fight to be animated
Tatsuya's motorcycle noises is the deciding factor in this fight
Since Tatsuya's voice is the same as DIO, he can distract Jotaro via Motorcycle noises and either gives him a PTSD or pissed him off more like all of my god damn negotiation attempts with the enemies in P2.
Jotaro's hat:
Jotaro: Oraoraoraoraoraoraoraoraoraora!!!
Persona guys: Abbadon!(or anything that Nullifies/Drains/Reflects physical attacks)
Shiki-Ouji
Giorno: Gold Experiance Requiem!
Mara!
@@kylepark6730 universe arcana
TWOH: dafuq they doin ova there
Death used Death: its not very effective
2 words, Marin Karin
Jar Jar 2 words, Za Warudo
1 word, miss
@@slojcabronas858 1 word Checkmate
Would that work Marin Karin misses a lot I mean joker could just use Phantom show with Raoul
28:11 Just picturing Joker fucking executing Johnny like that got me cackling lmao
Low balling boy with earing who beat Pandora in her world and apparently by Vs battles is solar system level durable
VS Battles wiki is garbage. They think fucking Sonic could beat Demi-Fiend on a 1 on 1 battle.
@@hsemicolonc How exactly?
@@hsemicolonc I hope to YHVH you're joking
@@phillemon7664 Sonic can arguably
Naoya is Outerversal to High Outerversal, tf?
I love the commentary on this video very funny "Murkami sees the truth and just leaves this fight because he knows that there is no hope"
why is maya not included in the persona protags isnt she the protagonist of eternal punishment
SupaGummyLord ! I think it's because it would be uneven. Since there would be 6 persona users and 5 stand users.
SupaGummyLord ! May as far as im aware is slightly weaker if not equal to tatsuya.You would need to remove someone to make it even as it would be 6 on 5.
Nah just add Part 8 Josuke.
Psychotica thing is 8 isn't finished so we don't know what Gappy can pull in a balls to the wall "here's everyones hax shit" fight. Assuming he gets any. Though id say if we wanna include Maya then just add Old Joseph. Its still a Stand using JoJo. Sure HP wont be as useful as the other Stands, but Hamon could probably count as light damage against the Personas or something.... Would Hamon be like Hamaon? Lol
lol it would probably be pretty similar
Well that debate of GER vs Satanial aged like milk...
idk GER vs Satanael is mainly about interpretation and the Death Battle interpreted it as being able to bypass RTZ
The only reality I see the persona users actually losing this fight in is if they are using p4 anime rules. You guys forget that stands reflect damage taken back onto their user, Personas do not. All of the persona users are wildcards wielding interpretations of various gods. They can cover each others weaknesses to any given situation if forced to work together and fend off potential attackers.
Most of the Jojo arguments are from abstract power feats extrapolation or assumptions. Outside of late act tusk and gold requiem(Which I think would still have a hard time dealing with all of the ultimate personas if not be straight up incapable.)
The other thing pretty easily ignored here is the fact that the persona users have FAR better healing capabilities and ability to remove negative effects on each other than the Jojo's do. Giorno and Josuke's healing is remarkable for stand users but not at all for persona users capable of using many different personas based on a situation.
So while I think the stands might have abilities themselves with hard to deal with gimmicks, good raw power, and the users be fast creative thinkers it's not even close to being able to deal with 5 wild cards including the one who sealed off Nyx.
So unless Giorno hard carries with golden requiem and ends it in a tie I just cannot see this being a Jojo favored encounter against 5 people that all have power and versatility of each of the respective Jojos.
P4 anime was weird because we don’t really see any other interpretation of persona use that combat system (Persona 3 movies they fight physically even though it appears they only have above average physical capabilities or P5 the anime because they show them finishing off bosses sometimes with physical attacks Kaneshiro being a notable one) but the games obviously favor the persona users having the resistances from their personas themselves (especially Scramble regardless if there isn’t Reflect like I’ve heard) so I take that as canon which gives Persona users the upperhand
But they can't be hit by anything except stands
@@saltytsunami4389 AoE
Imagine if Jojo’s had Josuke8, he can steal their Persona and then its over.
Junne Dio if personas act like stands, soft and wet couldn't steal the bit instead plunder specific properties like sight or sound
@@ryannielsen7860 Josuke8 can basically cast silence, blind the enemy thus lowering their evasion. And we all know those things are one of the worst thing that could happen to a Persona user.
Soft And Wet is honestly a great Stand to go against the Persona protagonists. Since it can plunder sound from different objects, it can help the other JoJos in stealth. Not to mention it can plunder sight from the Persona Protagonists, which is the worst thing for a Persona user. Thinking about it again, Soft and Wet has the possibility to be one of the strongest Stands the JoJo’s side, other than GER and Tusk Act 4
Lmao it has logic transcending bubbles now.
_laughs in White Album_
@@dasher3532 Dont forget D4C Love Train, Unless they're able to do what Tusk Act 4 did and tear through the dimensional wall they cant do anything to Funny.
Persona vs Jojo arena ultimax
Seconded.
All the physical feats are impressive and downright op for the JoJo's but I'm surprised they never mentioned Tetrakarn which blocks and reflects all physical damage. Sure it's not like it'll cancel out JoJo completely but it's still a formidable defense for the Persona characters.
Stands aren't really physical, and they cant be seen nor damaged by non stand users
Oh yeah Personas work way different than Stands so the persona's wouldn't be able to see them
*Persona 1 protagonist's spin kick can match the energy of Johnny's infinite rotation*
His spin Kick ironically solos everyone
Unpopular opinion: Jolyne is one of my favorite JoJos.
Omar B. She's really not that bad.Its just that she was the lead of the weakest part.
Unpopular opinion: Part 6 was actually pretty good (except Dragon's Dream).
Unpopular opinion: I really liked abbachio in part 5
Opinion: Giorno is worst JoJo.
stinkiiraven *Jotaro
This is amazing. I wish I had friends that know anything about jojo and/or persona
I'd like to think that Giorno's life surge would actually power up personas, considering their power is based on the consciousness of the user.
Bro you should remember the time kakyoin went inside a dream with his stand, if a stand user goes to sleep with their stand turned on, the stand can wake them up any sleep base attack.
This is interesting but...
You fell for it fool, Thunder-Cross Split Attack!
I can only imagine Stormo and Goliad from Adventure Time, when in the end of their introduction episode, they just stand in front of each other fighting a neverending psychic battle.
it truly depends on whether they know their opponents or not, because if the JoJo's are expecting to see a stand and then get insta-agidyned they lose.
cant they see personas?
@@Arcxzal Yes, persona can be seen by any people for example when Ryuji can see Ren use Arsene for the first time but I don't think the persona boys can see stand though
@@alvinputra3099 yeah but isnt that due to ryuji being in the castle? I dont think a stand user would be able to see personas and the same for persona users seeing stands
@@Arcxzal Maybe that the case if it only Ryuji but Yukari can see Minato summon Thanatos too when at that point she can't use persona yet
@@alvinputra3099 im pretty sure yukari could have used a persona when thanatos was first revealed but she just was too scared to, this was shown as only persona users can move in the dark hour
Round 1: Josuke gives Johnny infinite nails and WALK and Johnny murdered everyone.
Round 2: Time stops, Giant bullets, infinity nail bullets, Universal No U.
Round 3: *SPEEDWAGON solos everyone!*
Persona guys: does anything
Giorno: nope
Makoto: I nope your nope
Giorno:Nope
Repeat for a while till they both just go away
As much as i like the idea of a 'no u' battle for all eternity, GER loses to rewriting reality
@@Cy3qi and then Jotaro with Star Platinum Over Heaven rewrites Makoto out of existence.
@@の変化悪夢 wouldn't beings who can rewrite reality be immune to rewriting reality?
@@Cy3qi Yeah lol
bruh you just giorno and his trusty piano and everyone in persona gets wiped
Burn my dread (last battle ver.)>>>> Giorno theme
@@divinehero7331 definitely
@@divinehero7331 true
@JoJo Mama what theme?
@@divinehero7331 Josuke piano >>>>>>> all persona OSTs
How is no one bringing up the fact that Door-kun is also part Death? It LITERALLY gives him the special ability to summon two personas @ once, fuse them on his OWN, and enhances him overall. Let alone becoming friendly enough with the S-Link crew to harness Za Universe.