After the hike, we realised there's more to Kinder Scout (on trails) that we didn't hike to. Would you say it's worth getting back out that way to discover more of it? Also, is Mam Tor on the other side of the valley worth it?
Yes, from Edale you could have gone up Grindsbrook which is left when you forked right up that grassy path then onto Kinder. From there you could then go onto to Mam Tor and the Great Ridge and back to Edale. Would be around 15 miles I think, but an epic day.
definately worth heading cross plateau to the kinder gates and kinder downfall. (I like going up Jacobs ladder, and to the falls, then round the north side to fairbrook naze, then back cross plateau to the kinder gates, and back to edale. though maybe dont try navigating the peat groughs if you are not confident or experienced to do it Those other people are looking for the summit point, its not really worth doing over going to the trig point at kinder low, its only a few meters higher than that.
This has been super helpful, very good to know the summit point isn't worth the effort so I don't have to live FOMO (f for feeling rather than fear in this occasion!) The Kinder Downfall looks amazing, so I'd really like to explore more of Kinder Scout on a future trip to see it. Thank you
At the time, I didn't realise it was Grindsbrook that forked to the right - though that looked crazy steep towards the point where it met with the path we took! Thank you for the recommendation
Hi David, so pleased you enjoyed the outro - Andy is quite the comedian when he wants to be! We too hadn't 'really' explored much of the Peak District. I took a group of teens up there to an outdoors activity centre in 2011 (exactly when the London riots started up, so escaped the whole thing) but it's very different as you're working and the focus is on the kids, so it was nice to be able to choose what we wanted to do, and take it at our own paces. It was surprisingly accessible too for us. Much easier to reach than the Lakes/Snowdonia/Scotland etc. so am sure we'll be back soon enough!
Andy and Caroline👨👸🌹 thanks for sharing your videos from the Peak District. I am always amazed by the different kinds of landscape of the UK.🏞 Nice to see all the cool hikes in the UK. Waiting for Andy to make a video without Caroline. I look forward to Sunday to watch you new videos. Stay safe and have fun exploring the wilder parts of England. Wish we had cool pubs and that great looking pub food . Cheers 🍺🍺🍺🧔
The lack of pubs and instead popularity of bars is something I quickly picked up on when visiting the US. I do like the feel of US bars though, but possibly because it feels novel and different, where as pubs just feel normal! As we were in a budget hotel for this trip, we ate in a fair amount of pubs as we couldn't cook for ourselves so there'll be a few more peeks at hearty pub grub to come. Considering the UK's size, the variety in landscapes surprise me too. The next series is still in the UK, but anyone would be forgiven for thinking it was Greece or somewhere in the Caribbean! So pleased you continue to enjoy watching my Vlogs, it means so much! Cheers 🍻
Hi Carl, pleased you enjoyed seeing the rock formations, I was buzzing when I got to them as I had no idea they were coming up due to changing our route plan mid-way through the hike. Also, really pleased you enjoyed having Andy's input, I'm trying to get him a bit more involved on camera so every time I can show him lovely comments like yours, it helps me a tonne, so thank you!! 🙏
Another beautiful hike in the English countryside! Like you said, it didn't look too steep but the views behind you were great and it didn't take very long before there were lovely scenic landscapes all around. The boulder section looked crazy, certainly different from the rest of the walk up to that point. Good to hear about the history of Jacob's Ladder and how it got its name, I had also assumed that it was a biblical reference until you explained it where the term had come from. You can't beat a pub meal at the end of a good walk! Best ending ever to this video! 😂😂 😂 - who needs a script huh!
Everyone seems to be commenting on the ending of the video 🤣 I'm just grateful that you all appreciate Andy's sarcasm as much as I do!! We had a few really good pub meals at the end of each day on this trip as we scored a really cheap Premier Inn, so the lack of kitchen meant we had to eat out, but because the hotel was so cheap, with the meals factored in, the price was coming out similar to a self catered place, but without the need to cook and clean up after ourselves. Definitely felt like we were winning with this one!
The Kinder Plateau has so much more than the trails up to and around the rim. My favourite used to be to head into the centre of the plateau deep into the peat following the streams. With views over Manchester and a brilliant waterfall the Kinder Downfall is a great destination. The northern edges of the plateau are quite dramatic with views to Bleaklow Hill the other side of the Snake Pass. As for Mam Tor this makes a great starting point for a circuit into the Hope Valley. The descent along the ridge between Edale and the Hope Valley is a delight. You can swing around through Castleton and up the Winnats Pass before returning to the plentiful parking behind Mam Tor. There are so many variations here and throughout the Peak. Enjoy.
Whoa, Kinder Downfall looks amazing. I think from that alone, I am sold to get back up to Kinder Scout. There had been a road closure on this day which forced us to take a detour back to the hotel, and I remember having to drive down Winnats Pass, and I remember seeing a lot of car parks so I think I know which ones you're talking about for access to Mam Tor, your reply has been most helpful, thank you
Hi Natascha. From Edale, we headed up towards the Nab, mostly north, but slightly East of Edale. The path continued in the direction towards Nether Tor before taking a sharp turn West taking us through Upper Tor, Crowden Tower, Kinder Low and then down Jacobs Ladder. I hope this helps 🙏
How are you doing mrs Caroline thank you for sharing your trips with us showing us such magnificent landscapes although it’s very long topic to read about places you visited I gathered main information briefly here it’s kinder scout name derived from Anglo Saxon means water over edge views from summit of kinder scout on clear day included city of Manchester and greater Manchester as well as Liverpool water hill near Bolton mountains of snowdonia in north wales . Kinder scout is moorland plateau in dark peak of Derbyshire Peak District part of moor above 2087 feet above sea level highest point in Peak District highest point in Derbyshire highest point in East Midlands this summit sometimes called peak . Featured bbc television program seven nature wonders of midlands considered many to be in northern England lying between cities of Manchester and shuffled. Mermaid pool it’s legend inhabited by mermaid who grant immortality upon who ever see her on Easter eve
I didn't know that was what Kinder Scout meat, but a few others have told me about Kinder Downfall - a waterfall further on past Jacob's ladder which I went down, so the name makes sense. I didn't see any views of Manchester and Liverpool, but again, people have said if I'd kept walking, I would have done. You've brought up a contentious subject saying Kinder Scout is in 'northern' England 🤣 The north south divide, and arguments between Brits as to where the line lies will probably go on for centuries. I class the Peak District as the midlands, which is neither north or south, but saying this, I know many southerners who class 'the north' as anything above London
Last part of my research there are tone poem orchestral sketch kinder scout was composed by Patrick haldiey written by buxton in 1923 and Jacob ladder is bride way between kinder scout plateau and hamlet of upper booth in vale of edale in Derbyshire Peak District in 18 th century Marshall farmed land at edale head at top of what became Jacob ladder it’s biblical referring to ladder to heaven which Jacob dreamet about edale head source of river noe tributary to river between which flown down along side path at designated grade 11 and Jacob ladder across footpath across land managed by national trust and also part of kinder scout protected site of special scientific interest ( sssi) which designated as national natural reserve in 2009 . There are several attractions such as self guided caravan Peak District gems silent adventures tour in Manchester, bloody tour of York tourism award winner experience of year 2022 , half day at Manchester or full day sightseeing adventures. Pack horse bridge carry pack horses loaded with panniers across river consisted of one or more horses sometimes cut water at that extended up ward from pedestrian to refuges was called pack horse routes across Europe since 18 century before road building efforts of napoleon all crossing alps were pack horse trails less than 6 feet built before 1800 .griststone edge first climbing rock guide to peak . Bon voyage stay safe blessed good luck to you your dearest ones .
Ooooh there seems to be differing stories around the name of Jacob's Ladder as I'd assumed it was a biblical reference, but then the National Trust (whose land it is on) seems to say otherwise!
After the hike, we realised there's more to Kinder Scout (on trails) that we didn't hike to. Would you say it's worth getting back out that way to discover more of it? Also, is Mam Tor on the other side of the valley worth it?
Yes, from Edale you could have gone up Grindsbrook which is left when you forked right up that grassy path then onto Kinder. From there you could then go onto to Mam Tor and the Great Ridge and back to Edale. Would be around 15 miles I think, but an epic day.
definately worth heading cross plateau to the kinder gates and kinder downfall. (I like going up Jacobs ladder, and to the falls, then round the north side to fairbrook naze, then back cross plateau to the kinder gates, and back to edale. though maybe dont try navigating the peat groughs if you are not confident or experienced to do it
Those other people are looking for the summit point, its not really worth doing over going to the trig point at kinder low, its only a few meters higher than that.
This has been super helpful, very good to know the summit point isn't worth the effort so I don't have to live FOMO (f for feeling rather than fear in this occasion!) The Kinder Downfall looks amazing, so I'd really like to explore more of Kinder Scout on a future trip to see it. Thank you
At the time, I didn't realise it was Grindsbrook that forked to the right - though that looked crazy steep towards the point where it met with the path we took! Thank you for the recommendation
Always enjoying your videos
Thank you both
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Thank you - so pleased you enjoyed it! 🙏
Another brilliant video guys 👍my wife and i haven't explored much in that area but it looks well worth a visit,great outro to😂
Hi David, so pleased you enjoyed the outro - Andy is quite the comedian when he wants to be! We too hadn't 'really' explored much of the Peak District. I took a group of teens up there to an outdoors activity centre in 2011 (exactly when the London riots started up, so escaped the whole thing) but it's very different as you're working and the focus is on the kids, so it was nice to be able to choose what we wanted to do, and take it at our own paces. It was surprisingly accessible too for us. Much easier to reach than the Lakes/Snowdonia/Scotland etc. so am sure we'll be back soon enough!
Andy and Caroline👨👸🌹 thanks for sharing your videos from the Peak District. I am always amazed by the different kinds of landscape of the UK.🏞 Nice to see all the cool hikes in the UK. Waiting for Andy to make a video without Caroline. I look forward to Sunday to watch you new videos. Stay safe and have fun exploring the wilder parts of England. Wish we had cool pubs and that great looking pub food . Cheers 🍺🍺🍺🧔
The lack of pubs and instead popularity of bars is something I quickly picked up on when visiting the US. I do like the feel of US bars though, but possibly because it feels novel and different, where as pubs just feel normal! As we were in a budget hotel for this trip, we ate in a fair amount of pubs as we couldn't cook for ourselves so there'll be a few more peeks at hearty pub grub to come. Considering the UK's size, the variety in landscapes surprise me too. The next series is still in the UK, but anyone would be forgiven for thinking it was Greece or somewhere in the Caribbean! So pleased you continue to enjoy watching my Vlogs, it means so much! Cheers 🍻
Caroline, Beautiful country, beautiful hike, fascinating rock formations & great expose, as always. Great to hear from Andy ~ I loved the ending!
Hi Carl, pleased you enjoyed seeing the rock formations, I was buzzing when I got to them as I had no idea they were coming up due to changing our route plan mid-way through the hike. Also, really pleased you enjoyed having Andy's input, I'm trying to get him a bit more involved on camera so every time I can show him lovely comments like yours, it helps me a tonne, so thank you!! 🙏
Another beautiful hike in the English countryside! Like you said, it didn't look too steep but the views behind you were great and it didn't take very long before there were lovely scenic landscapes all around. The boulder section looked crazy, certainly different from the rest of the walk up to that point. Good to hear about the history of Jacob's Ladder and how it got its name, I had also assumed that it was a biblical reference until you explained it where the term had come from. You can't beat a pub meal at the end of a good walk! Best ending ever to this video! 😂😂 😂 - who needs a script huh!
Everyone seems to be commenting on the ending of the video 🤣 I'm just grateful that you all appreciate Andy's sarcasm as much as I do!! We had a few really good pub meals at the end of each day on this trip as we scored a really cheap Premier Inn, so the lack of kitchen meant we had to eat out, but because the hotel was so cheap, with the meals factored in, the price was coming out similar to a self catered place, but without the need to cook and clean up after ourselves. Definitely felt like we were winning with this one!
The Kinder Plateau has so much more than the trails up to and around the rim. My favourite used to be to head into the centre of the plateau deep into the peat following the streams. With views over Manchester and a brilliant waterfall the Kinder Downfall is a great destination. The northern edges of the plateau are quite dramatic with views to Bleaklow Hill the other side of the Snake Pass. As for Mam Tor this makes a great starting point for a circuit into the Hope Valley. The descent along the ridge between Edale and the Hope Valley is a delight. You can swing around through Castleton and up the Winnats Pass before returning to the plentiful parking behind Mam Tor. There are so many variations here and throughout the Peak. Enjoy.
Whoa, Kinder Downfall looks amazing. I think from that alone, I am sold to get back up to Kinder Scout. There had been a road closure on this day which forced us to take a detour back to the hotel, and I remember having to drive down Winnats Pass, and I remember seeing a lot of car parks so I think I know which ones you're talking about for access to Mam Tor, your reply has been most helpful, thank you
The sight the couple maybe referring to is kinder low trig point.
Thank you for that. Would you say it's worth the trek across the moors to it?
@@WhenAdventureKnox yeah it's always worth looking for trig points
Hi great video have you got the gpx for this hike please
Which path up did you do?
Hi Natascha. From Edale, we headed up towards the Nab, mostly north, but slightly East of Edale. The path continued in the direction towards Nether Tor before taking a sharp turn West taking us through Upper Tor, Crowden Tower, Kinder Low and then down Jacobs Ladder. I hope this helps 🙏
How are you doing mrs Caroline thank you for sharing your trips with us showing us such magnificent landscapes although it’s very long topic to read about places you visited I gathered main information briefly here it’s kinder scout name derived from Anglo Saxon means water over edge views from summit of kinder scout on clear day included city of Manchester and greater Manchester as well as Liverpool water hill near Bolton mountains of snowdonia in north wales . Kinder scout is moorland plateau in dark peak of Derbyshire Peak District part of moor above 2087 feet above sea level highest point in Peak District highest point in Derbyshire highest point in East Midlands this summit sometimes called peak . Featured bbc television program seven nature wonders of midlands considered many to be in northern England lying between cities of Manchester and shuffled. Mermaid pool it’s legend inhabited by mermaid who grant immortality upon who ever see her on Easter eve
I didn't know that was what Kinder Scout meat, but a few others have told me about Kinder Downfall - a waterfall further on past Jacob's ladder which I went down, so the name makes sense. I didn't see any views of Manchester and Liverpool, but again, people have said if I'd kept walking, I would have done. You've brought up a contentious subject saying Kinder Scout is in 'northern' England 🤣 The north south divide, and arguments between Brits as to where the line lies will probably go on for centuries. I class the Peak District as the midlands, which is neither north or south, but saying this, I know many southerners who class 'the north' as anything above London
Last part of my research there are tone poem orchestral sketch kinder scout was composed by Patrick haldiey written by buxton in 1923 and Jacob ladder is bride way between kinder scout plateau and hamlet of upper booth in vale of edale in Derbyshire Peak District in 18 th century Marshall farmed land at edale head at top of what became Jacob ladder it’s biblical referring to ladder to heaven which Jacob dreamet about edale head source of river noe tributary to river between which flown down along side path at designated grade 11 and Jacob ladder across footpath across land managed by national trust and also part of kinder scout protected site of special scientific interest ( sssi) which designated as national natural reserve in 2009 . There are several attractions such as self guided caravan Peak District gems silent adventures tour in Manchester, bloody tour of York tourism award winner experience of year 2022 , half day at Manchester or full day sightseeing adventures. Pack horse bridge carry pack horses loaded with panniers across river consisted of one or more horses sometimes cut water at that extended up ward from pedestrian to refuges was called pack horse routes across Europe since 18 century before road building efforts of napoleon all crossing alps were pack horse trails less than 6 feet built before 1800 .griststone edge first climbing rock guide to peak . Bon voyage stay safe blessed good luck to you your dearest ones .
Ooooh there seems to be differing stories around the name of Jacob's Ladder as I'd assumed it was a biblical reference, but then the National Trust (whose land it is on) seems to say otherwise!