Again, India is not ready to develop. People are opposing this scrapping. Have you ever encountered with an eighth class student not able to solve a division, not able to read a line of English without stuttering? I have, and trust me, you feel pity for them. This no detention policy ruined the value of education. It should have been scrapped a long time ago
BS.. This idea of "no detention" policy was introduced during MMS time only and in name of modernization claiming that US has this policy, implying it was "development". + Everyone knows who re the people opposing it.
I used to tutor students of class 5 to class 12th during my bachelors degree, guess what; even though govt had reduced syllabus, had difficulty in covering the topics; few of them used to say "the school won't fail them, even they don't study" and the thing I observed in class 10 student is that they can't even solve the basic mathematical problems of substraction and division; I am just 23M but still when I check the syllabus that we had and the syllabus they are having now, I fail to recognize why they are struggling to study. If we look the students now a days, they are carrying lots and lots of books i their bag each and nd everyday, but don't have aptitude in their head. They can only solve the problems, that they have practiced in school, also only if all the numbers matches the same.
Drop out rates will surely increase in the initial years but trust me this will only benefit the students, it will also work in increasing the accountability of government teachers.
Yes it will increase their awareness about the tough education policy and they would eventually put more efforts to pass the exams. These days half of the students literally take things for granted because anyhow they will be pushed and promoted to the next class even after failing....let this bring good change among the students and the management.
Whose duty is to teach that child those tables, those basic calculation, its ur fvcking duty that is why ur a teacher,(I know u didn't choose it and that is the reason for this mentality of yours) , now don't blame it on parents or their behaviour, u failed as a teacher not them as a student
Whose duty is to teach that child those tables, those basic calculations , its ur duty that is why ur a teacher,(I know u didn't choose it and that is the reason for this mentality of yours) , now don't blame it on parents or their behaviour, u failed as a teacher not them as a student
@@Shuvadeep-xp5esno it's the fault of the education system itself because people just do ratta and pass the exams people don't learn anything by passing exams upto class 10th they just do it to clear them
You can't ask a higher class teacher to teach lower class topics as they have their own pedagogy also in a class of 50-60 students you can't teach every student as per their standards. At the end of the day you need to complete the syllabus else management to deo. everyone will blame you.@@Shuvadeep-xp5es
Our pass criteria is 33% aggregate out of this , 20% from projects If a student can't score 13 marks in 2/3 hours of exam, they should be failed at any cost Passing them ahead without any merit only produces useless candidates who then go to blame govt
@@java2architect In ISC & CBSE 12th, there are few subjects where total written paper is of 70 marks so a student has to get just 3-5 marks to pass in theory papers Those ppl who pass with these marginal marks achieve nothing in their life unless they are god-gifted
@@HarshMishra22301 No man,for getting passed in exam in CBSE, you need to score 33% of the 80 marks = 27 marks in theory exam seperately irrespective of your score you recieved in Practicals/Assignments. Government done the right thing...
As a university educator, this is a welcome change… most of the time the kids that pass out of schools and come to colleges and universities are clearly not prepared for the consequences of their own choices and parents are not doing a good job either… the constant coddling is spoiling everyone…
I'm an educator. When a child fails and is still promoted to the next class due to no detention policy, his/her classmates know about is very well. The child is still outcasted. I have come across students who didn't know basic tables and couldn't do things like 3 digit addition without mistakes in 8th class. We want well educated and hard working children, not some spoiled brats educated only on papers. The BJP govt should have scrapped this policy in 2014 only.
Whose duty is to teach that child those tables, those 3 digit addition, its ur fvcking duty that is why ur a teacher,(I know u didn't choose it and that is the reason for this mentality of yours) , now don't blame it on parents or their behaviour, u failed as a teacher not them as a student
Whose duty is to teach that child those tables, those 3 digit addition, its ur duty that is why ur a teacher,(I know u didn't choose it and that is the reason for this mentality of yours) , now don't blame it on parents or their behaviour, u failed as a teacher not them as a student
@@nitishvidyadharan8240 bro I myself am from a science and research background. Other subjects before 11th are nothing more than general knowledge, everyone should know it. You don't need to rote learn in other subjects as well.
Because most of th people can't pass the exam and the rest can't pss the interview. And even those who get selected they don't know HOW TO TEACH. So even if they do pass exam it's not worth it cuz all they think is "oh good now I have a govt job" ashh hi ashh@@aravindhanveeramani856
@@aravindhanveeramani856bro there are teachers but no post ...in my village there were two teachers for class 1-5..when students enrollment is low they blame the teachers...but the same authority won't dare send their children in this school because of less number of teachers... hypocrite
@@Varun32924 let Panchayat play roles. Whr issues are there.. Not recruit but run. From what they have to what they wanna build i guess they will gind better solution.. Unless power of democracy.. Let solution come from root lvl.. Step by step
1 teacher for 60 students is definitely a huge disaster. But a bigger disaster is 1 teacher for 30 students or less and still churning out failures. Why? Because teachers have many months of salary due to them and so they are not interested/invested to teach or less interested to stay. Teachers leave schools at an alarming rate per year, that students of 10th grade who have to show up for their public exam next year, remain confused as to the syllabus covered and where they have to pick up from. And this issue starts from 7th grade!! I am talking about CBSE schools in UAE. The quality of education is not just in the students hands or the schemes by the government. It is with everyone. And in the group of everyone, al lot is in the hands of the adults starting from the governments, boards, teachers and parents.
I give tuition classes and yes this policy is needed. Today's 9th class student don't even understand a basic calculation, let alone solving the questions on their own (despite having only 60% of the previous syllabus as many chapters have been removed from the books ). There is no concept of self study in today's generation's life.
@@nitishvidyadharan8240 it never happened... If he can passed in science and math.. he can easily score in language wether he likes it or not... And for your kind information... Languages are necessary... Wether you like it or not.. if you don't have knowledge of language you are missing out great literatures of your own language because you are not able to understand it
4:45 1 teacher per 60 student class is everywhere in india almost no matter how many cherries you put on a turd it won't become a cake. No one addressing fundamental problems.
Sometimes failure is better than success...... I passed all classes with distinction and got a good employment and now at 65 my assets 1.5 crores. My 10 th classmate who had failed in all exams started doing business and now at 65 his assets 211 crores...... Now a question arises..... Who is more successful in life? 😂
Education is not limited to school Life is also education He gained practical skill not ratta marao padhai And business is also very competative Very few individual without any support can do it effectively He must have worked hard than you
You can't use 1 example for everything. He had a natural talent in business which he discovered due to his failure. That's different. There are countless examples of kids who lost all hope and committed suicide because they failed and couldn't tolerated facing their parents and society with shame. They failed; they didn't commit murder but that's how society here looks at them.
Very good. Everyone learns at a different rate. If they'll fail then they will have one more year to grasp those concepts and build a stronger foundation. If the base is weak, they will not be able to cope with higher studies. We only have to change one thing: the mentality of the society towards those being detained, they are not weak, just need some more time to learn.
@Nevermore-g2h Abe abhi degree leke chai isliye bechna pad rha hai logon ko kyunki foundation weak hai, degree ek paper ka tukda hai aur employability nhi depict karta. Jabtak basics clear nhi honge tabtak kaise koi apna degree se mile education ko use karega?
students need to take effort. I grew up with a lot of them who indeed did fail and were held back. it is not about teachers. It is about other factors. Cannot have unilateral views on this IMO. Bad teachers and Bad students are independent issues to be addressed independently. Besides understand the real issue here. You want a Civil Engineer to build a bridge you are going to drive on, then you want to know how he went about becoming a Civil engineer.
@@shwetapatil1736ever read of a research paper stating each human is different , those bright students don't need ur teaching, even without u they will succeed, ur a made a teacher for the sole reason of making those weak students better, have u ever heard a brand new car needing a mechanic , because it doesn't
@@shwetapatil1736 main problem is there is no personalized learning. Each student needs a different kind of teaching method. Teaching is a skill most can't master.
@@shwetapatil1736ever heard of the line each human is different, those bright students don't need ur teaching they are already bright because they got the right environment ( they will shine no matter who the teacher is just better teacher makes it easier)but not everyone can have those environment , its ur duty to make weak students better, have u ever heard a brand new car needing mechanic , it doesn't
Yes, they should be failed. Also, students who study in English language schools (even vernacular schools which have English as a subject) and yet repeatedly write things like "he have the keys", "they didn't done anything", "suuuper speech", "they knows the answers" should have marks deducted even if their answers are correct in terms of getting the right answer in maths etc. Without that, you have an epidemic of poor writing everywhere from court notices, customer care chats and social media to hospital and bank websites in the workforce in India. The next generations should have much more fluency in English writing than the previous ones. Part of the issue is also hiring the right people for the job of English teaching as opposed to simply hiring people because they have a degree.
The fact that its only about GRADES 99.9% Student don't learn anything cramming up IMPs during exams and later forget everything Whole system needs to be reviewed especially if we really want to be a vishwaghuru
Yeah the education system needs to be reviewed and radical changes needs to be introduced and our edu system encourages cramming not critical thinking but 99.9% dont learn anything is a emotional exaggeration, I would say somewhere around 50% dont learn much! if 99.9% dont learn anything how are they competing with first world education system in us and dominating the silicon valley?
@@adityakumar-iu1yf POVERTY IN 1947 WAS 90% AND TODAY LESS THAN 13% AND IN LAST 10 YEARS 450 MILLION WERE LIFTED OUT OF POVERTY, VISHWAGURU IS AN LONG TERM FUTURE ASPIRATION THAT EVERY COUNTRY/EMPIRE HAS IN DIFFERENT WAY, THE CHINESE BELIEVE ITS AN CHINESE CENTURY, JUST BECAUSE YOUR LIFE SUCKS DOESN'T MEAN EVERYBODY IS IN POVERTY, GROW UP KID OR ELSE EVERYONE WILL LAUGH AT UR LIFE LIKE U DID NOW.
@@tharunb4124 brother, there is still a lot of poverty . see the per capita income ... 1% of india has 40% wealth .. we should try to eliminate poverty provide good basic healthcare roads quality education rather than becoming vishswaguru
In the Philippines this is normal. Teachers failing their students if they don't perform or passed. Some students can't accept it and committed suicide. Hope this won't happen to Indian students.
Failure and handling failure is a very important lesson of life , more important is for the parents to teach perseverance and fight back attitude than creating shock absorber. These absorbers don't exist in real life what will they do then ?
I think it's better to let them fail in lower classes too. If they keep getting easy promotions, they neither learn how to work harder and better, nor how to handle failure. Eventually they will have to compete with others and then there would be no more free rides. Then the failure becomes harder to deal with since they don't know even basics and cannot improve themselves in short period.
@@richanigam2097 This is not America to get waiter job in restaurants and living decent life lol. This is India, if you are uneducated then you are fucked up.
When I am studying 9th teacher told me , they will try to pass everyone because if students study upto 10th they can goto ITI/Army ...etc....if they fail them they will discontinue their studies ...they will become burden for the society....
Yes that's correct But i think they should give good external mark by doing some activities For passing i think 35-40 marks is required in any subject of 12th std
By repetion of year, what they gain is bot even 10 perxent. .the fame is alredy lost for those who fail, atleast they will wotk in ITI, crafts....noy vevry one 9s going to attend engineering entrance..
Other thing is raising a kid is not a cakewalk anymore... Parents are going through Trmondous pressure... And thinking of not to have (no kids )at all.. It will be a total disaster if government won't intervien and do something for education expenses...
I think govt teacher's salary is way higher compared to a normal private school teacher.Govt school teachers are earning more than a lakh/month by the time they retire.
Yes absolutely...that brings back much more seriousness among students and teachers to put more and more efforts to pass out. Right now half of the students and management are taking advantage of the existing policy. 😅
11th board seems illogical. Students are also humans .. Moreover students in class 11th and 12th are more inclined towards competitive exams.. Already these exams are hectic and such things can make things fatal.. Things need to be updated.. boards... boards mentality is to be removed.. Things are changed now
Not all, correct your statement. Many teachers want to teach the students but students are not likely to come to school for study, as they already know that they will pass the exam either way.
This policy should be applied from "upper primary classes" so, that students would learn to read and understand the books properly by themselves. It would also help students to learn the portions by themselves without any support which, would improve mentality and understanding skills in students. Which, will be useful from the future generations... This law should be implemented all over the country l. So that, students would learn, read and write by themselves l..
Scrapping the no-detention policy could help improve academic accountability, but it should be balanced with support systems to reduce stress and promote holistic learning.
India ranked 72 of 73 in PISA in 2009 and shamefully vowed not to take part in this world’s affair, The need of the day is education system overhaul like singapore or norwegian countries, Yes we have wonderful higher education schools but doesn’t mean we turn blind eye to primary education
This policy is the today’s requirement, I am a teacher and I am facing students of class IX having no basic knowledge of anything(leave Maths and Hindi reading) they don’t know how to write their name correctly in Hindi or in English. The problem, specially in the government schools is that on an average only 20% student arrive in the school and teachers make attendance of 90% student, the attendance is too low due to no detention in any class and this is a vicious cycle. The students who are appearing daily in the school discourage from this behaviour and stop coming to the school too. If you look the data of government school, in Xth board exam almost 20% students are failing, but not a single student is getting failed in class X pre-board. Think how it is possible and who is responsible for this. I can’t even talk about the situation of class XI & XII.
4:21 Govt is more interested in freebies than paying teacher. 10k salary for a school teacher is not nearly enough to leave their home town and teach in a remote place. Same with health care segment.
@@nightbot6480actually goverment now recruiting guest teachers and highest salary of guest teacher is in delhi which is 25k and in other states it can lower as 10k he is kinda right
@Aaditya_official Guest teacher- are part timers or contractual... Don't leave your hometown if you do not find it suitable for you. Guest Faculty salary at Government of Uttarakhand ranges between ₹2.7 Lakhs to ₹3.5 Lakhs per year for employees with 4 years of experience.
@@karthikeyan53 Not all teachers behave in that manner. also attended a government school, and in that school, only the Math and Physical Education teachers were irresponsible in their work. The other teachers were dedicated taught well.
Welcome this change ...in our days students can be failed in any class.we have to earn our pass marks.Because of no detention policy by stupid government ,no respect , no fear , no interest among the students to learn (in mindset no one is going to do anything , anyhow we are gonna pass).and No fear or respect for the teachers .
Why to blame teachers when one can blame students and get away with it.? I dont think a class 5 or class 8th student had even wanted this policy to exist in first place.
@@manumudgal5776either improve government schools environment or make a regulation that private schools can not charge ridiculous amount for lower classes fees.
Good change. 5th and 8th are critical milestones. Delaying detention is costly, sin, irreversible. Good education is critical pillar to nation's growth. Educating kids is a responsibility and we have to take the job super serious.
Not only in schools but colleges especially engineering should have atleast 50% passing criteria just like mbbs and more weightage should be on practical rather on craming books and notes...
This should have been initiated long ago, I have seen my school's student at class 8 who can't even solve basic calculation they are always confuse with BODMAS rule and some bullies who are not good at studying were also directly promoted to next class discouraging students why they are even studying if they are getting promoted with no effort. This should help many students who really want to study and those should be stopped who are not worthy of passing.
To all those who r saying its not good n blaming the teachers for not teaching them well. They r the ones who bunk classes and when teacher's are teaching they don't listen instead they make noises. You just have to get 40 above out of 100 to pass the exam and that also they can't do. I am also a 12th student
You're right. People nowadays don't respect teachers. They make fun of them and while they're teaching, students think they can do it by themselves at home or by tutors and don't even try to concentrate in school.
U think one-sided it's system and society fault as well think about depression students go through our education system needs to be revamped for eg why do we study Shakespeare when their is no use of it also our education system is memory based instead of critical thinking
@StudentofPCB477 Learning Shakespeare is in ICSE/ISC because they focus on English for the students who want to study abroad and take SAT/TOEFL exams. You can opt CBSE if you don't like Shakespeare. And btw it brushes up your skills and persistence, not useless.
Students not taking any responsibility for their own action is also a thing now. The YT comment sections of useless reaction channels, reel, asian drama, tiktok collections or gaming videos etc are full of Indian kids who say they were watching that video while in class. There would some student posting that he has exam the next day but watching long videos. or they would be playing some video game or chatting on some stream.
I blame teachers becuase in my school almost 40 out of 60 students are dumb. Then whose mistake is that lol. Only 10 students understand the what teacher is teaching remaining 10 will mug up and write the exams. rest 40 just try to mug up and get screwed.
Some people never learn basic things. They can't even write a single line but take those full scholarships and in the same class with students who study. But I don't know if my state govt will allow it or not....as usual WB always ... whatever who ever starts this kudos to you people ❤
Y not. Some seriousness is required. They have given supplementary exam. Schools can choose which board they wanna follow. Students can choose which school they wanna join what level they wanna achieve. Don't ruin academic quality for few to avail it rather let them reach that level
As a teacher, I totally support this….we get students in Class IX and X who can’t even read or write a basic sentence …this has severely affected student quality and merit…
@@kingdorm9546 The Advantage of Anonymity gives me no identity of nationality, only identity as anybody else, so I can say I'm an omniscient being so I do know a lot about India.
@@kingdorm9546I am and he is right (I am rich if you consider the whole indian population, but still the education I got was not satisfactory. So idk what the rest of the teachers will be like
Some teachers maybe terrible but are you saying students are never to blame? The YT comment sections of stupid videos are full of Indian kids who say they were watching that video while in class. There would some student posting that he has exam the next day but watching long videos. or they would be playing some video game or chatting on some stream.
What about student who is way ahead in science and maths but fails as he fails in third language which is of no use at all. I was good in maths during my childhood but i barely passed sanskrit that too after copying.
@nitishvidyadharan8240 The way aheads in some subjects usually won't be a way behind in other subjects . They will at least get a passing minimum in other subjects too . Very unusual cases like mathematician Ramanujan don't exist nowadays .
@GS_youtube76 , my son fails in third language but he is very good in maths. He finds it difficult to learn hindi and sanskrit. Though he passes in hindi but fails sometimes in sanskrit which is of no use at all. He has learned maths one class ahead because of his interest in it. Such a student failed due to third language is injustice.
@@nitishvidyadharan8240 you need to work on your sons language skills getting just a pass mark is not difficult to any child in any subject .if your son is studying PCMB if he passes in mathematics and fails in chemistry or physics will you say the same thing to get him pass because he is strong in mathematics. If they have a course they have to pass in every subject of that course.
@GS_youtube76 , .He dosent fail in any othet subjects. He is good in other subjects also except hindi and sanskrit. But i will not say hindi is a useless subject because it is required for communication. But he passes in hindi. Sanskit which is not there after 8th is a useless subject. Actually third language should be a optional. It is of no use at all. What good is he going to have with barelly minimum knowledge of sanskrit. For that u have to fail a student who is good in all other subjects and fails in third language doesnt makes sense at all. This is the problem of education policy. I just said he is exceptionally good in maths but he is also good in other subjects also but not as good as maths. So to fail a student who is good in other subjects and fails in third language doesnt make sense at all. During my childhood i barelly passed sanskrit and that too by copying. I was good in maths and i am succesful in my career as per my.expectation. Had i failed in sanskrit during my childhood and retained in the same class it would have a negative impact on me. Bare minimum knowledge of sanskrit has no utility. If ur good in it then it has some purpose orherwise no use. People should not be forced to study third language. It should be optional.
As a student, I welcome this change. It was a pain to grow up with certain people in class who would pass each class even when they did not study anything. They will always disturb the class not know how to do even basic things. This will frustrate all the teachers too and we constantly had a very negative environment because of that. I am sure they also have their part of the story but it is also true that one cannot play with the future of all the other students just because of a few.
lol. It won't improve shit. Because only Tier 1 and Tier 2 colleges are good. In many Tier 3 colleges the campus interview is non-existent. Searching for job outside as freshers is frustating as hell. Government should encorange start-ups more to increase employment.
If you get into scholar debates on these then it's a never ending topic, you (in this sense the government) should have the courage to make a decision and back it up when the time comes to act !!
I truely and whole heartedly support this change.... Nd i admire the minds behind this change... It feels a headache teaching those 9-10 th std kids who don't even know division
The essence of examination is very clear, if u fail then u have to study again . Otherwise no purpsoe of taking and giving exams. in my opinion, this is a good step in ensuring the quality and value education among our student.
Wheter yes 9th and 10th std basic of math and science is important If you don't know basic of that Then you will struggle in 11th std and 12th std And i am live example of it😅😅😅 Scoring 34 in math exam in 12th board
@@DarkMasterEdits-Mashups Are you still in 12th? Maths is not tough, you just need to practise it daily. Just daily at least for an hour or two. I used to score horribly at it too but consistency really helped me.
The question itself is wrong. We should ask why our education system is not able to educate students? Tests were supposed to check if one learned something or not. If one student fails then that means there is a problem in the student. But if we are covering up the failure of the whole class then the system itself is at fault. Education should not be privatised but it is. As one smart guy said there are two things missing in our education system. Education and system.
In 2001, I have been detained in class 5th my reason was my grandmother was expired during 2nd term 😢and there was no retest conducted during that time. Wished no detention policy had applied then . The mental trauma I felt during my school days was horrible😞 It impact your confidence life long .
I was a teacher in a private school and education system has really gone down the hill in a past few years. On my first day i was shocked to see a 7th standard students not being able to copy correct spellings and lines from the books and teachers literally being pressurized to pass the students who scores zero and doesn't take an initiative for improvement. The worst part comes when the parents are called for the meeting and they literally say, "you can't detain our child as there is no detention policy", as a result teachers has to promote them no matter what. Also there is no respect for teachers anymore and good teachers are really really hard to find nowadays who can provide good education. Because of this policy many old teachers have left the job or they have pushed themselves backs and let the system, school and students do whatever they want, as in the end you have to promote them either by adding extra marks or by giving some assignments and projects which even those are horrors to look at by seeing today's generations standards. The system really needs to change if we want good education for our coming generation and blindly following West will never help in any case. We Indians have a habit of following the West blindly and so did the education system and look where it landed our younger generation. Edit : The problem also lies with the school as they don't hire good teachers anymore. In our time we used to have such a good teachers without any B.ed or D.ed but now it seems anyone can be a teacher. The problem doesn't lie with the fact that anyone can become a teacher but it lies with teachers who doesn't take teaching seriously and sometimes even teach nonsense. I've seen teachers playing with students and passing time or sometimes trying to teach hard but their not upto the point. This really pushes back the foundation of a child specially those in primary classes between 1-5 . I've also noticed that before our mothers specially homemakers used to guide and look after us for the academics but nowadays due to inflation most parents are forced to work in order to provide for the family and compete with the society as a result it reflects in negligence of their childrens academics and behavior. These are some of the few things which i have noticed after working for 2 years and think this points matter if we want a good education for our younger generation. It starts from parents to school to teachers and again back to parents. So don't just blame the system, school and teachers but parents should also take some accountability for this and look into their child's growth and foundation.
Obviously they should not be detained. If you fail an exam you should get 3 months to pass the exam again and again until you pass. Meanwhile they should be allowed to sit with their batch mates for next class but they should be allowed to sit for the final exam only if they have cleared last year's final exam.
As someone who has gotten a chance to work in delhi government schools, I can say with confidence that it was a much needed step indeed, the policy had brought children with an ease based convenient attitude of not studying as they would get passed anyways. Biggest drawback laid in students becoming disinterested in studies and teachers carrying a casual attitude of not teaching properly too. The quality of education had stooped to such a low that an 8th class student didn’t even know basic mathematical operations. However the sad part is whether the present delhi govt would comply to this new change or not or prefer to maintain the status quo
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A neighbour kid from Class 10 can't even read analog clock and don't know what comes after 12:59 even in digital clock. Indian education system is just... interesting.
It is good to have a measure which can be done only by having a passing or failing in exams... Students of class 8 failing in simple mathematics of class 2/3 is a shame... No point in having such education system!!! Education is the means of creating learned, competent and capable future!!!
This is one of the best decision taken, parents, gaurdians, and students you should know that just passing or be promoted to next class is not necessary, you might passed class 8 but know nothing. Its better to detain those whom the teachers feels that the student needs tobe taught again so that they can gain better knowledge. There are many students who have passed class 5, 6 but still donot know how to read and write put aside understanding because of the no detention and pandemic.
Thank god I went to school in an era where they would fail students in 1st. I worked hard simply because I didn’t want to fail and be left behind while my friends moved to the next class,
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Modi govt MUST also fix Congress's another blunder - "bringing arts departments to IIT campuses". Majority of art subjects are making youth cancerous to the society and such cancerous things should be kept out of IIT campuses.
This will create chaos, Take the case of Kerala, where majority of the students secured 90 plus percentage in 10th, the result is that many students are not getting the desired stream to study in 11th standard. This year, i heard in news that a state rank holder didn't get seat for 11th standard.
@@FlexQG Not bluffing Many students in Kerala were not able to get 11th stream of their desire despite good marks. Some have opted to do in Private Tuition centres
Failing students who are not meeting academic standards, rather than automatically promoting them, can improve the quality of education. Involving students in family work helps them understand real-life situations and is not detrimental to their development. The education system should prioritize vocational training to provide a pathway for students, as not everyone will secure a high-profile job. Many will become farmers or run family businesses. The current system produces graduates who cannot solve basic math problems or write simple English sentences, yet they demand government jobs. This is a significant problem. This approach should not be limited to schools. Government employees should also be required to pass annual exams to ensure they are updating their knowledge and maintaining a high level of service quality.
I have seen the transition of the failing policy as a student back during schooling, it was frustrating for me being a good student that the government had scrapped the failing of students and all the students irrespective of their performance would pass, but after all these years, i have seen many of the weak students doing very well in their life, certainly an important reason for this was that they didn't loose the opportunity and improved in their life later, and i personally believe that a student of class 5 or 8 isn't very mature to know the consequences of not scoring or not studying and it mostly relies on their parent's awareness at that time, government should help weak students in other ways without depriving them of an academic year
I work in a government school and i suffer this problem every now and then. You can imagine a student just enrolled in class 11 science is unable to read texts. 'Aadhar' They cant pronounce it. They wont tell u which is greater 1/2 or 1/3. This is our policy and they have passed boards with distinction. Imagine this shit. They say its a teacher duty to teach will i teach him/her Laws of physics or how to spell a word.
I just saw new AP government textbook its 1/4 th of what we studied which is 1/2 of what seniors studied if rhey study this the jump from 10th to intermediate is insane.
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Again, India is not ready to develop. People are opposing this scrapping. Have you ever encountered with an eighth class student not able to solve a division, not able to read a line of English without stuttering? I have, and trust me, you feel pity for them. This no detention policy ruined the value of education. It should have been scrapped a long time ago
Very true
BS.. This idea of "no detention" policy was introduced during MMS time only and in name of modernization claiming that US has this policy, implying it was "development". + Everyone knows who re the people opposing it.
Same here
I used to tutor students of class 5 to class 12th during my bachelors degree, guess what; even though govt had reduced syllabus, had difficulty in covering the topics; few of them used to say "the school won't fail them, even they don't study" and the thing I observed in class 10 student is that they can't even solve the basic mathematical problems of substraction and division;
I am just 23M but still when I check the syllabus that we had and the syllabus they are having now, I fail to recognize why they are struggling to study.
If we look the students now a days, they are carrying lots and lots of books i their bag each and nd everyday, but don't have aptitude in their head. They can only solve the problems, that they have practiced in school, also only if all the numbers matches the same.
Lol, It's the mistake of teachers.
Drop out rates will surely increase in the initial years but trust me this will only benefit the students, it will also work in increasing the accountability of government teachers.
Yes it will increase their awareness about the tough education policy and they would eventually put more efforts to pass the exams. These days half of the students literally take things for granted because anyhow they will be pushed and promoted to the next class even after failing....let this bring good change among the students and the management.
Automatically promoted that's why even some class 9 students can't even do simple calculation 😢... tutoring them is a nightmare 😂
Whose duty is to teach that child those tables, those basic calculation, its ur fvcking duty that is why ur a teacher,(I know u didn't choose it and that is the reason for this mentality of yours) , now don't blame it on parents or their behaviour, u failed as a teacher not them as a student
Whose duty is to teach that child those tables, those basic calculations , its ur duty that is why ur a teacher,(I know u didn't choose it and that is the reason for this mentality of yours) , now don't blame it on parents or their behaviour, u failed as a teacher not them as a student
@@Shuvadeep-xp5esno it's the fault of the education system itself because people just do ratta and pass the exams people don't learn anything by passing exams upto class 10th they just do it to clear them
@@Shuvadeep-xp5es it's easy to bark
You can't ask a higher class teacher to teach lower class topics as they have their own pedagogy also in a class of 50-60 students you can't teach every student as per their standards. At the end of the day you need to complete the syllabus else management to deo. everyone will blame you.@@Shuvadeep-xp5es
Our pass criteria is 33% aggregate out of this , 20% from projects
If a student can't score 13 marks in 2/3 hours of exam, they should be failed at any cost
Passing them ahead without any merit only produces useless candidates who then go to blame govt
Exactly. People don't realize this. In Engineering colleges passing percentage in India is 40. In the US it is 60. Indians supposed to be smart right?
@@java2architect In ISC & CBSE 12th, there are few subjects where total written paper is of 70 marks so a student has to get just 3-5 marks to pass in theory papers
Those ppl who pass with these marginal marks achieve nothing in their life unless they are god-gifted
@@HarshMishra22301 No man,for getting passed in exam in CBSE, you need to score 33% of the 80 marks = 27 marks in theory exam seperately irrespective of your score you recieved in Practicals/Assignments.
Government done the right thing...
Bro... Correct your knowledge.... You still need to score 33% marks in written to qualify... Not just 33 marks....
@@Akashkrsingh806 Some schools take the aggregate 33% atleast in ISC
As a university educator, this is a welcome change… most of the time the kids that pass out of schools and come to colleges and universities are clearly not prepared for the consequences of their own choices and parents are not doing a good job either… the constant coddling is spoiling everyone…
I'm an educator. When a child fails and is still promoted to the next class due to no detention policy, his/her classmates know about is very well. The child is still outcasted. I have come across students who didn't know basic tables and couldn't do things like 3 digit addition without mistakes in 8th class.
We want well educated and hard working children, not some spoiled brats educated only on papers. The BJP govt should have scrapped this policy in 2014 only.
And all the well educated kids are fueling the cog wheel 😅
Whose duty is to teach that child those tables, those 3 digit addition, its ur fvcking duty that is why ur a teacher,(I know u didn't choose it and that is the reason for this mentality of yours) , now don't blame it on parents or their behaviour, u failed as a teacher not them as a student
Whose duty is to teach that child those tables, those 3 digit addition, its ur duty that is why ur a teacher,(I know u didn't choose it and that is the reason for this mentality of yours) , now don't blame it on parents or their behaviour, u failed as a teacher not them as a student
And as a result there will be more criminals in the society
And as a result there will be more criminals in the society
Good decision many students of class 9,10th don't know basic education they need to be serious about education
What about student who is way ahead in science and maths but fails as he fails in third language which is of no use at all.
@@nitishvidyadharan8240 bro I myself am from a science and research background. Other subjects before 11th are nothing more than general knowledge, everyone should know it. You don't need to rote learn in other subjects as well.
Having less teacher is not the policy issue rather administration issue
Its crazy how many people appear for Teacher exam and there are still vacancy in that post
Because most of th people can't pass the exam and the rest can't pss the interview. And even those who get selected they don't know HOW TO TEACH. So even if they do pass exam it's not worth it cuz all they think is "oh good now I have a govt job" ashh hi ashh@@aravindhanveeramani856
@@aravindhanveeramani856 they are lack of teacher staff
@@aravindhanveeramani856bro there are teachers but no post ...in my village there were two teachers for class 1-5..when students enrollment is low they blame the teachers...but the same authority won't dare send their children in this school because of less number of teachers... hypocrite
@@Varun32924 let Panchayat play roles. Whr issues are there.. Not recruit but run. From what they have to what they wanna build i guess they will gind better solution.. Unless power of democracy.. Let solution come from root lvl.. Step by step
1 teacher for 60 students is definitely a huge disaster. But a bigger disaster is 1 teacher for 30 students or less and still churning out failures. Why? Because teachers have many months of salary due to them and so they are not interested/invested to teach or less interested to stay. Teachers leave schools at an alarming rate per year, that students of 10th grade who have to show up for their public exam next year, remain confused as to the syllabus covered and where they have to pick up from. And this issue starts from 7th grade!! I am talking about CBSE schools in UAE. The quality of education is not just in the students hands or the schemes by the government. It is with everyone. And in the group of everyone, al lot is in the hands of the adults starting from the governments, boards, teachers and parents.
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I give tuition classes and yes this policy is needed. Today's 9th class student don't even understand a basic calculation, let alone solving the questions on their own (despite having only 60% of the previous syllabus as many chapters have been removed from the books ). There is no concept of self study in today's generation's life.
What about student who is way ahead in science and maths but fails as he fails in third language which is of no use at all.
@@nitishvidyadharan8240 13 marks is not much to get. One can get it with even minimum efforts.
@@nitishvidyadharan8240 it never happened... If he can passed in science and math.. he can easily score in language wether he likes it or not... And for your kind information... Languages are necessary... Wether you like it or not.. if you don't have knowledge of language you are missing out great literatures of your own language because you are not able to understand it
I feel you
India is doing right thing!
4:45 1 teacher per 60 student class is everywhere in india almost
no matter how many cherries you put on a turd it won't become a cake. No one addressing fundamental problems.
Quality of education should be improved not play with students life
Sometimes failure is better than success...... I passed all classes with distinction and got a good employment and now at 65 my assets 1.5 crores. My 10 th classmate who had failed in all exams started doing business and now at 65 his assets 211 crores...... Now a question arises..... Who is more successful in life? 😂
So he got motivated from failing
?
Your classmate knew the art of becoming wealthy. You knew the art of pleasing people around you. That's the main difference.
Education is not limited to school
Life is also education
He gained practical skill not ratta marao padhai
And business is also very competative
Very few individual without any support can do it effectively
He must have worked hard than you
You can't use 1 example for everything. He had a natural talent in business which he discovered due to his failure. That's different. There are countless examples of kids who lost all hope and committed suicide because they failed and couldn't tolerated facing their parents and society with shame. They failed; they didn't commit murder but that's how society here looks at them.
Your classmate must be a politician 😅 that's the only profession in India where failures succeed 😅
Very good. Everyone learns at a different rate. If they'll fail then they will have one more year to grasp those concepts and build a stronger foundation. If the base is weak, they will not be able to cope with higher studies. We only have to change one thing: the mentality of the society towards those being detained, they are not weak, just need some more time to learn.
Aur phir degree lekar chai becho dukan pe 🤡
@Nevermore-g2h Abe abhi degree leke chai isliye bechna pad rha hai logon ko kyunki foundation weak hai, degree ek paper ka tukda hai aur employability nhi depict karta. Jabtak basics clear nhi honge tabtak kaise koi apna degree se mile education ko use karega?
This is a brilliant move. Many students can't solve simple Grammar exercises of English and other languages.
problem is not students its the terrible teacher's who dont know how to teach students in different levels ..
students need to take effort. I grew up with a lot of them who indeed did fail and were held back. it is not about teachers. It is about other factors. Cannot have unilateral views on this IMO. Bad teachers and Bad students are independent issues to be addressed independently.
Besides understand the real issue here. You want a Civil Engineer to build a bridge you are going to drive on, then you want to know how he went about becoming a Civil engineer.
The same teacher teaches to the bright student and to the dumb one then how can you say its teachers fault?
@@shwetapatil1736ever read of a research paper stating each human is different , those bright students don't need ur teaching, even without u they will succeed, ur a made a teacher for the sole reason of making those weak students better, have u ever heard a brand new car needing a mechanic , because it doesn't
@@shwetapatil1736 main problem is there is no personalized learning. Each student needs a different kind of teaching method. Teaching is a skill most can't master.
@@shwetapatil1736ever heard of the line each human is different, those bright students don't need ur teaching they are already bright because they got the right environment ( they will shine no matter who the teacher is just better teacher makes it easier)but not everyone can have those environment , its ur duty to make weak students better, have u ever heard a brand new car needing mechanic , it doesn't
Fail is school is far far better than failing in life
Yes, they should be failed. Also, students who study in English language schools (even vernacular schools which have English as a subject) and yet repeatedly write things like "he have the keys", "they didn't done anything", "suuuper speech", "they knows the answers" should have marks deducted even if their answers are correct in terms of getting the right answer in maths etc. Without that, you have an epidemic of poor writing everywhere from court notices, customer care chats and social media to hospital and bank websites in the workforce in India. The next generations should have much more fluency in English writing than the previous ones. Part of the issue is also hiring the right people for the job of English teaching as opposed to simply hiring people because they have a degree.
The fact that its only about GRADES
99.9% Student don't learn anything cramming up IMPs during exams and later forget everything
Whole system needs to be reviewed especially if we really want to be a vishwaghuru
Yeah man. Just cribbing all stuff and vomiting it on exam day. Summed up our education system.
Yeah the education system needs to be reviewed and radical changes needs to be introduced and our edu system encourages cramming not critical thinking but 99.9% dont learn anything is a emotional exaggeration, I would say somewhere around 50% dont learn much! if 99.9% dont learn anything how are they competing with first world education system in us and dominating the silicon valley?
vishwaguru 🤣🤣. first india should get out of poverty
@@adityakumar-iu1yf POVERTY IN 1947 WAS 90% AND TODAY LESS THAN 13% AND IN LAST 10 YEARS 450 MILLION WERE LIFTED OUT OF POVERTY, VISHWAGURU IS AN LONG TERM FUTURE ASPIRATION THAT EVERY COUNTRY/EMPIRE HAS IN DIFFERENT WAY, THE CHINESE BELIEVE ITS AN CHINESE CENTURY, JUST BECAUSE YOUR LIFE SUCKS DOESN'T MEAN EVERYBODY IS IN POVERTY, GROW UP KID OR ELSE EVERYONE WILL LAUGH AT UR LIFE LIKE U DID NOW.
@@tharunb4124 brother, there is still a lot of poverty . see the per capita income ... 1% of india has 40% wealth .. we should try to eliminate poverty provide good basic healthcare roads quality education rather than becoming vishswaguru
In the Philippines this is normal. Teachers failing their students if they don't perform or passed. Some students can't accept it and committed suicide. Hope this won't happen to Indian students.
Failure and handling failure is a very important lesson of life , more important is for the parents to teach perseverance and fight back attitude than creating shock absorber. These absorbers don't exist in real life what will they do then ?
And also we to decrease work load of students
Give them some experiential learning
So they can easily passed and also learn effectively
I think it's better to let them fail in lower classes too. If they keep getting easy promotions, they neither learn how to work harder and better, nor how to handle failure. Eventually they will have to compete with others and then there would be no more free rides. Then the failure becomes harder to deal with since they don't know even basics and cannot improve themselves in short period.
@@richanigam2097 This is not America to get waiter job in restaurants and living decent life lol. This is India, if you are uneducated then you are fucked up.
@@DarkMasterEdits-Mashups Do you think teachers with 15K per month salary are ready to put this much effort lol.
When I am studying 9th teacher told me , they will try to pass everyone because if students study upto 10th they can goto ITI/Army ...etc....if they fail them they will discontinue their studies ...they will become burden for the society....
Yes that's correct
But i think they should give good external mark by doing some activities
For passing i think 35-40 marks is required in any subject of 12th std
By repetion of year, what they gain is bot even 10 perxent. .the fame is alredy lost for those who fail, atleast they will wotk in ITI, crafts....noy vevry one 9s going to attend engineering entrance..
Other thing is raising a kid is not a cakewalk anymore... Parents are going through Trmondous pressure... And thinking of not to have (no kids )at all.. It will be a total disaster if government won't intervien and do something for education expenses...
Due to workload and pressure students lack interest in the system. Same thing happens with teachers.
Parents lose interest because fee structure😅
At least in goverment and goverment aided school
Instead in focusing on improving education and teachers salary, like always govt chose the easy way out
True
I think govt teacher's salary is way higher compared to a normal private school teacher.Govt school teachers are earning more than a lakh/month by the time they retire.
Yes exactly
@@suneeshduvvuru6581 yeah exactly . These kids have no practical knowledge , But keep blaming government for everything.
Bring back 5th board, 8th board, 10th board, 11th board and 12th board !!
Yes absolutely...that brings back much more seriousness among students and teachers to put more and more efforts to pass out. Right now half of the students and management are taking advantage of the existing policy. 😅
no need
11th board seems illogical. Students are also humans ..
Moreover students in class 11th and 12th are more inclined towards competitive exams..
Already these exams are hectic and such things can make things fatal..
Things need to be updated.. boards... boards mentality is to be removed..
Things are changed now
@@Aditya_97g lol, are you trying to say that people who gave 11th boards are not human being ?
@@darkvader125 That's your opinion and I gave mine too !!
All govt teachers are only there for salary, not with the intention to teach students.
Not all, correct your statement. Many teachers want to teach the students but students are not likely to come to school for study, as they already know that they will pass the exam either way.
I am teacher, and welcome this change wholeheartedly as students will now learn to be serious while attempting to write their papers.
This policy should be applied from "upper primary classes" so, that students would learn to read and understand the books properly by themselves. It would also help students to learn the portions by themselves without any support which, would improve mentality and understanding skills in students. Which, will be useful from the future generations... This law should be implemented all over the country l. So that, students would learn, read and write by themselves l..
Everything you said is wrong. This whole policy is wrong if you ask me.
Failure amd succes are part of life. Students need to know about it in schools. As you sow, so you reap...
Scrapping the no-detention policy could help improve academic accountability, but it should be balanced with support systems to reduce stress and promote holistic learning.
India ranked 72 of 73 in PISA in 2009 and shamefully vowed not to take part in this world’s affair, The need of the day is education system overhaul like singapore or norwegian countries, Yes we have wonderful higher education schools but doesn’t mean we turn blind eye to primary education
This policy is the today’s requirement, I am a teacher and I am facing students of class IX having no basic knowledge of anything(leave Maths and Hindi reading) they don’t know how to write their name correctly in Hindi or in English. The problem, specially in the government schools is that on an average only 20% student arrive in the school and teachers make attendance of 90% student, the attendance is too low due to no detention in any class and this is a vicious cycle. The students who are appearing daily in the school discourage from this behaviour and stop coming to the school too. If you look the data of government school, in Xth board exam almost 20% students are failing, but not a single student is getting failed in class X pre-board. Think how it is possible and who is responsible for this. I can’t even talk about the situation of class XI & XII.
4:21 Govt is more interested in freebies than paying teacher. 10k salary for a school teacher is not nearly enough to leave their home town and teach in a remote place. Same with health care segment.
lol , the salary of govt teacher is above 40k , its the private school teachers hired for 10-20k salaary
@@nightbot6480actually goverment now recruiting guest teachers and highest salary of guest teacher is in delhi which is 25k and in other states it can lower as 10k he is kinda right
@Aaditya_official Guest teacher- are part timers or contractual... Don't leave your hometown if you do not find it suitable for you. Guest Faculty salary at Government of Uttarakhand ranges between ₹2.7 Lakhs to ₹3.5 Lakhs per year for employees with 4 years of experience.
@@nightbot6480 We all know how govt teachers are not teaching students and some are not even coming to schools lol.
@@karthikeyan53 Not all teachers behave in that manner. also attended a government school, and in that school, only the Math and Physical Education teachers were irresponsible in their work. The other teachers were dedicated taught well.
Any progress towards improving teaching? May be empowering and training teachers instead of focusing on braining washing students (kids)?
yes, checkout reforms by NCTE on teacher recruitment and training.
Good that government has reversed it.
I did 5th class board and 8th class board. It's good that government is bringing it back.
Welcome this change ...in our days students can be failed in any class.we have to earn our pass marks.Because of no detention policy by stupid government ,no respect , no fear , no interest among the students to learn (in mindset no one is going to do anything , anyhow we are gonna pass).and No fear or respect for the teachers .
What about student who is way ahead in science and maths but fails as he fails in third language which is of no use at all.
Students don't fail, teachers do.
Why put presure on children instead of education system. If teaching becomes better, children will start learning better.
Why to blame teachers when one can blame students and get away with it.? I dont think a class 5 or class 8th student had even wanted this policy to exist in first place.
Please reduce fees as well. Paying fees double time. 😢
In primary classes ...we don't have that much fees in govt school...that even includes classes 10 or 12.
Private school fees is not regulated by gov. So stop crying
@@manumudgal5776either improve government schools environment or make a regulation that private schools can not charge ridiculous amount for lower classes fees.
CA CS CMA crying in the corner. Despite writing right answers students are failed 😂😂😂
Good change. 5th and 8th are critical milestones. Delaying detention is costly, sin, irreversible. Good education is critical pillar to nation's growth. Educating kids is a responsibility and we have to take the job super serious.
It's ok to fall and try agan, world doesn't end with failure, i believe it will change peoples mindset
Not only in schools but colleges especially engineering should have atleast 50% passing criteria just like mbbs and more weightage should be on practical rather on craming books and notes...
This should have been initiated long ago, I have seen my school's student at class 8 who can't even solve basic calculation they are always confuse with BODMAS rule and some bullies who are not good at studying were also directly promoted to next class discouraging students why they are even studying if they are getting promoted with no effort.
This should help many students who really want to study and those should be stopped who are not worthy of passing.
Welcoming step...
To all those who r saying its not good n blaming the teachers for not teaching them well. They r the ones who bunk classes and when teacher's are teaching they don't listen instead they make noises. You just have to get 40 above out of 100 to pass the exam and that also they can't do. I am also a 12th student
You're right. People nowadays don't respect teachers. They make fun of them and while they're teaching, students think they can do it by themselves at home or by tutors and don't even try to concentrate in school.
U think one-sided it's system and society fault as well think about depression students go through our education system needs to be revamped for eg why do we study Shakespeare when their is no use of it also our education system is memory based instead of critical thinking
@StudentofPCB477 Learning Shakespeare is in ICSE/ISC because they focus on English for the students who want to study abroad and take SAT/TOEFL exams. You can opt CBSE if you don't like Shakespeare. And btw it brushes up your skills and persistence, not useless.
Students not taking any responsibility for their own action is also a thing now. The YT comment sections of useless reaction channels, reel, asian drama, tiktok collections or gaming videos etc are full of Indian kids who say they were watching that video while in class. There would some student posting that he has exam the next day but watching long videos. or they would be playing some video game or chatting on some stream.
I blame teachers becuase in my school almost 40 out of 60 students are dumb. Then whose mistake is that lol. Only 10 students understand the what teacher is teaching remaining 10 will mug up and write the exams. rest 40 just try to mug up and get screwed.
Thanks God that pass fail is back.
Some people never learn basic things. They can't even write a single line but take those full scholarships and in the same class with students who study. But I don't know if my state govt will allow it or not....as usual WB always ... whatever who ever starts this kudos to you people ❤
I feel like this policy is not a good decision. It just downgrades it more.
Y not. Some seriousness is required. They have given supplementary exam. Schools can choose which board they wanna follow. Students can choose which school they wanna join what level they wanna achieve. Don't ruin academic quality for few to avail it rather let them reach that level
As a teacher, I totally support this….we get students in Class IX and X who can’t even read or write a basic sentence …this has severely affected student quality and merit…
It's not the students, some teaches are terrible, they don't teach anything properly and students don't understand anything due to these teachers.
@@AnonymousAnonymous-dc3jm how would you know about indian education system dude , you not Indian
@@kingdorm9546 The Advantage of Anonymity gives me no identity of nationality, only identity as anybody else, so I can say I'm an omniscient being so I do know a lot about India.
@@kingdorm9546I am and he is right
(I am rich if you consider the whole indian population, but still the education I got was not satisfactory. So idk what the rest of the teachers will be like
Some teachers maybe terrible but are you saying students are never to blame? The YT comment sections of stupid videos are full of Indian kids who say they were watching that video while in class. There would some student posting that he has exam the next day but watching long videos. or they would be playing some video game or chatting on some stream.
Very good move, 20 years before economically India was not doing well. But the quality of education was far better in Govt school.
Promoting healthy competition is essential.
As a teacher for 21 years I support this . One year of relearning is better than 10 years of no learning .
What about student who is way ahead in science and maths but fails as he fails in third language which is of no use at all. I was good in maths during my childhood but i barely passed sanskrit that too after copying.
@nitishvidyadharan8240 The way aheads in some subjects usually won't be a way behind in other subjects . They will at least get a passing minimum in other subjects too . Very unusual cases like mathematician Ramanujan don't exist nowadays .
@GS_youtube76 , my son fails in third language but he is very good in maths. He finds it difficult to learn hindi and sanskrit. Though he passes in hindi but fails sometimes in sanskrit which is of no use at all. He has learned maths one class ahead because of his interest in it. Such a student failed due to third language is injustice.
@@nitishvidyadharan8240 you need to work on your sons language skills getting just a pass mark is not difficult to any child in any subject .if your son is studying PCMB if he passes in mathematics and fails in chemistry or physics will you say the same thing to get him pass because he is strong in mathematics. If they have a course they have to pass in every subject of that course.
@GS_youtube76 , .He dosent fail in any othet subjects. He is good in other subjects also except hindi and sanskrit. But i will not say hindi is a useless subject because it is required for communication. But he passes in hindi. Sanskit which is not there after 8th is a useless subject. Actually third language should be a optional. It is of no use at all. What good is he going to have with barelly minimum knowledge of sanskrit. For that u have to fail a student who is good in all other subjects and fails in third language doesnt makes sense at all. This is the problem of education policy. I just said he is exceptionally good in maths but he is also good in other subjects also but not as good as maths. So to fail a student who is good in other subjects and fails in third language doesnt make sense at all.
During my childhood i barelly passed sanskrit and that too by copying.
I was good in maths and i am succesful in my career as per my.expectation.
Had i failed in sanskrit during my childhood and retained in the same class it would have a negative impact on me.
Bare minimum knowledge of sanskrit has no utility. If ur good in it then it has some purpose orherwise no use.
People should not be forced to study third language. It should be optional.
WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUE IN EUROPE ABOUT DIVISION CALCULATIONS
WE DO NOT MAKE THEM REPEAT
No fail students in class 1 to 8 that is right ways because give children encouragement they will do well.
Why is the encouragement not helping in passing the class ?
i would assume you are a product of that system too
Considering how you yourself can't even frame a basic sentence proves how idiotic this no failure policy is
@@siddharthtripathi1818 good , I hope you are doing well with no failure policy ...
Proper teaching is needed for those students who are unable to pass, not a free promotion to the next class.
Good Descision!
It's a welcome step taken by govt. Students were not at all serious and not even serious towards teachers and not paying respect to them
Finally common sense prevailed😂😂
As a student, I welcome this change. It was a pain to grow up with certain people in class who would pass each class even when they did not study anything. They will always disturb the class not know how to do even basic things. This will frustrate all the teachers too and we constantly had a very negative environment because of that. I am sure they also have their part of the story but it is also true that one cannot play with the future of all the other students just because of a few.
Education deteriorated...the best education is one-o-one mentor student education... experienced personally
Kudos to all teachers who educate children. Its not easy
Palki Maam.... My favorite....😊
Good...no detention shud have been scrapped long ago...
10th- 12 th board exam should be fairly moderate to tough. These days scoring above 90 percent is a joke
Yes
lol. It won't improve shit. Because only Tier 1 and Tier 2 colleges are good. In many Tier 3 colleges the campus interview is non-existent. Searching for job outside as freshers is frustating as hell.
Government should encorange start-ups more to increase employment.
If you get into scholar debates on these then it's a never ending topic, you (in this sense the government) should have the courage to make a decision and back it up when the time comes to act !!
I truely and whole heartedly support this change.... Nd i admire the minds behind this change... It feels a headache teaching those 9-10 th std kids who don't even know division
The essence of examination is very clear, if u fail then u have to study again . Otherwise no purpsoe of taking and giving exams. in my opinion, this is a good step in ensuring the quality and value education among our student.
Wheter yes 9th and 10th std basic of math and science is important
If you don't know basic of that
Then you will struggle in 11th std and 12th std
And i am live example of it😅😅😅
Scoring 34 in math exam in 12th board
@@DarkMasterEdits-Mashups Are you still in 12th? Maths is not tough, you just need to practise it daily. Just daily at least for an hour or two. I used to score horribly at it too but consistency really helped me.
@@btssjlh7 I completed 12th in 2023
now i am doing engineering
I got decent marks in math
34/50 in first sem and 44/50 in second sem
isn't it obvious? If I know I am gonna pass then why would I study in first place. this will incentivize teachers as well to relax and not teach.
Yes if failed in studying definitely get success in other fields without wasting their high energy young age on matter which they don't relate
Right approach
The question itself is wrong.
We should ask why our education system is not able to educate students?
Tests were supposed to check if one learned something or not. If one student fails then that means there is a problem in the student. But if we are covering up the failure of the whole class then the system itself is at fault.
Education should not be privatised but it is.
As one smart guy said there are two things missing in our education system. Education and system.
Great and helpful news. 👏👏
Students who cannot qualify shouldn't be promoted. It is really affecting education.
In 2001, I have been detained in class 5th my reason was my grandmother was expired during 2nd term 😢and there was no retest conducted during that time.
Wished no detention policy had applied then .
The mental trauma I felt during my school days was horrible😞
It impact your confidence life long .
Talking about quality of education in government schools 😂 what an irony
I was a teacher in a private school and education system has really gone down the hill in a past few years. On my first day i was shocked to see a 7th standard students not being able to copy correct spellings and lines from the books and teachers literally being pressurized to pass the students who scores zero and doesn't take an initiative for improvement. The worst part comes when the parents are called for the meeting and they literally say, "you can't detain our child as there is no detention policy", as a result teachers has to promote them no matter what. Also there is no respect for teachers anymore and good teachers are really really hard to find nowadays who can provide good education. Because of this policy many old teachers have left the job or they have pushed themselves backs and let the system, school and students do whatever they want, as in the end you have to promote them either by adding extra marks or by giving some assignments and projects which even those are horrors to look at by seeing today's generations standards. The system really needs to change if we want good education for our coming generation and blindly following West will never help in any case. We Indians have a habit of following the West blindly and so did the education system and look where it landed our younger generation.
Edit : The problem also lies with the school as they don't hire good teachers anymore. In our time we used to have such a good teachers without any B.ed or D.ed but now it seems anyone can be a teacher. The problem doesn't lie with the fact that anyone can become a teacher but it lies with teachers who doesn't take teaching seriously and sometimes even teach nonsense. I've seen teachers playing with students and passing time or sometimes trying to teach hard but their not upto the point. This really pushes back the foundation of a child specially those in primary classes between 1-5 .
I've also noticed that before our mothers specially homemakers used to guide and look after us for the academics but nowadays due to inflation most parents are forced to work in order to provide for the family and compete with the society as a result it reflects in negligence of their childrens academics and behavior.
These are some of the few things which i have noticed after working for 2 years and think this points matter if we want a good education for our younger generation.
It starts from parents to school to teachers and again back to parents. So don't just blame the system, school and teachers but parents should also take some accountability for this and look into their child's growth and foundation.
Obviously they should not be detained. If you fail an exam you should get 3 months to pass the exam again and again until you pass. Meanwhile they should be allowed to sit with their batch mates for next class but they should be allowed to sit for the final exam only if they have cleared last year's final exam.
Great Idea
As someone who has gotten a chance to work in delhi government schools, I can say with confidence that it was a much needed step indeed, the policy had brought children with an ease based convenient attitude of not studying as they would get passed anyways. Biggest drawback laid in students becoming disinterested in studies and teachers carrying a casual attitude of not teaching properly too. The quality of education had stooped to such a low that an 8th class student didn’t even know basic mathematical operations. However the sad part is whether the present delhi govt would comply to this new change or not or prefer to maintain the status quo
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A neighbour kid from Class 10 can't even read analog clock and don't know what comes after 12:59 even in digital clock. Indian education system is just... interesting.
If a student can't read the book of class 2 or solve class 2 maths, then it means he needs another year of class 2, not class 5..
As teacher, i can tell even in class 6th students are very poor in basic math calculations and read.
Automatically promotion should be in 10 and 12 and in college also
Government should do that
Education for all
It is good to have a measure which can be done only by having a passing or failing in exams... Students of class 8 failing in simple mathematics of class 2/3 is a shame... No point in having such education system!!! Education is the means of creating learned, competent and capable future!!!
This is one of the best decision taken, parents, gaurdians, and students you should know that just passing or be promoted to next class is not necessary, you might passed class 8 but know nothing. Its better to detain those whom the teachers feels that the student needs tobe taught again so that they can gain better knowledge. There are many students who have passed class 5, 6 but still donot know how to read and write put aside understanding because of the no detention and pandemic.
Thank god I went to school in an era where they would fail students in 1st. I worked hard simply because I didn’t want to fail and be left behind while my friends moved to the next class,
Modi govt MUST also fix Congress's another blunder - "bringing arts departments to IIT campuses". Majority of art subjects are making youth cancerous to the society and such cancerous things should be kept out of IIT campuses.
Chalo achcha hua mai तो pass ho gaya school se 😂😂
This will create chaos,
Take the case of Kerala, where majority of the students secured 90 plus percentage in 10th, the result is that many students are not getting the desired stream to study in 11th standard. This year, i heard in news that a state rank holder didn't get seat for 11th standard.
No one cares lol
That's bull shit ... there are tons of higher secondary schools...both government semi and private...
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Not bluffing
Many students in Kerala were not able to get 11th stream of their desire despite good marks. Some have opted to do in Private Tuition centres
Correct decision for th future of country n students...
Failing students who are not meeting academic standards, rather than automatically promoting them, can improve the quality of education. Involving students in family work helps them understand real-life situations and is not detrimental to their development. The education system should prioritize vocational training to provide a pathway for students, as not everyone will secure a high-profile job. Many will become farmers or run family businesses. The current system produces graduates who cannot solve basic math problems or write simple English sentences, yet they demand government jobs. This is a significant problem.
This approach should not be limited to schools. Government employees should also be required to pass annual exams to ensure they are updating their knowledge and maintaining a high level of service quality.
A welcoming step for empowering teachers!
Genz are actively and passionatelg involved in least important issues and ignoring education is what i learned from this figures😢
I have seen the transition of the failing policy as a student back during schooling, it was frustrating for me being a good student that the government had scrapped the failing of students and all the students irrespective of their performance would pass, but after all these years, i have seen many of the weak students doing very well in their life, certainly an important reason for this was that they didn't loose the opportunity and improved in their life later, and i personally believe that a student of class 5 or 8 isn't very mature to know the consequences of not scoring or not studying and it mostly relies on their parent's awareness at that time, government should help weak students in other ways without depriving them of an academic year
I work in a government school and i suffer this problem every now and then. You can imagine a student just enrolled in class 11 science is unable to read texts. 'Aadhar'
They cant pronounce it. They wont tell u which is greater 1/2 or 1/3.
This is our policy and they have passed boards with distinction. Imagine this shit.
They say its a teacher duty to teach will i teach him/her Laws of physics or how to spell a word.
2:00 excellent 👍
These government should also care about teacher welfare
Remember, failure is also part of learning. Failure only makes you comeback stronger.
I just saw new AP government textbook its 1/4 th of what we studied which is 1/2 of what seniors studied if rhey study this the jump from 10th to intermediate is insane.