Why Healer Power Creep is not Sustainable

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  • @Mr_Leech_HGC
    @Mr_Leech_HGC  9 часов назад +44

    You all claim you want me to talk about something other than meta, I am down, let me know what you want me to talk about

    • @nogamenolife319
      @nogamenolife319 9 часов назад +5

      Lore if you like

    • @AtomicBettyGames
      @AtomicBettyGames 9 часов назад +13

      maybe talk about types of characters each element could benefit from.

    • @arixo928
      @arixo928 9 часов назад +1

      Omega mart

    • @edgieststalker8141
      @edgieststalker8141 9 часов назад +5

      The best characters of each region (lorewise) but excluding Archons and Harbingers

    • @katiethefandomgirl4412
      @katiethefandomgirl4412 8 часов назад +6

      How about comparing how the length of story quests is handled between Genshin Impact and Honkai Star Rail?

  • @allanvelasquez6101
    @allanvelasquez6101 7 часов назад +48

    I've always found it funny that Star Rail fans always make fun of Genshin's powercreep without realizing that their game started having powercreep since year 1 xD

    • @jiffonbuffo
      @jiffonbuffo 5 часов назад +14

      Were they not able to see how some Genshin v1.0 characters are still usable even on newer contents?

    • @JustSkii
      @JustSkii 4 часа назад +17

      ​@@jiffonbuffo Usable is an understatement, some version 1 units are as of now as insanely broken as they were before and can easily carry you through the game's content

    • @ahlemlora1452
      @ahlemlora1452 3 часа назад +10

      Star rail fans don't make fun of genshin's powercreep, they make fun of genshin's lack of endgame, the dev team that ignores community feedback, the stingy rewards that genshin players get and the constant white knighting the genshin community does for a dev team that has back stabbed them again and again for 4 years.

    • @Emiturbina
      @Emiturbina Час назад +2

      I honestly prefer that over a stale metagame like Genshin's, but only because of how long the patches of both games are, even if your fave gets powercrept the next patch you get at least 2 months to have them be the best in their thing, which is much more than other gachas (Feh please don't powercreep winter Fjorm next month I gave her so much already)

    • @allanvelasquez6101
      @allanvelasquez6101 Час назад +1

      @@Emiturbina Haha, I understand that, I play Genshin, HSR and Feh, let's hope Fjorm gets the same treatment as Edelgard. 😭

  • @jerryeljeremy7790
    @jerryeljeremy7790 9 часов назад +102

    Gallagher is secretly 5 stars sustain
    And Lingsha is secretly Fire Erudition

    • @edgieststalker8141
      @edgieststalker8141 9 часов назад +8

      Lingsha is literally just "Topaz but for super break"

    • @joshvente6898
      @joshvente6898 8 часов назад +5

      @@edgieststalker8141yea it’s crazy how much Lingsha can despite being an abundance character. Her healing is pretty weak imo, but those debuffs and team wide cleanse on top of her damage makes her an all-in-one character. I feel like if they are gonna make new abundance characters, they have to go towards the route of additional gimmicks on top of average healing so as to not power creep other abundance characters who just do healing, I.e. Luocha, Bailu, etc.

    • @Kyle81290
      @Kyle81290 5 часов назад +4

      That's another issue. Why bring a pure sustain when you can bring a damage dealer that also happens to do good sustain.

    • @variareaver4658
      @variareaver4658 5 часов назад +4

      @@joshvente6898funnily it’s because super break in general is based purely on toughness damage which is why the devs based the archetype into the non-dps paths.
      Break was built to be this way
      It wants to use nihility harmony abundance and preservation as its defining units, so in reality this doesn’t come as a surprise.

  • @ognamesweretaken5836
    @ognamesweretaken5836 9 часов назад +55

    I remember when I had to go through The Swarm Dif 4 with Lynx as my sustain... I genuinely don't know how I still had sanity after that.

    • @jerryeljeremy7790
      @jerryeljeremy7790 9 часов назад +2

      How did you even do that. I use both Gepard and Lynx to survive that mode back then

    • @ognamesweretaken5836
      @ognamesweretaken5836 9 часов назад +6

      @@jerryeljeremy7790 I am being dead honest with you: I literally have no f#cking idea. Probably after restarting for 12983798132 times, the game felt pity for me and nerfed enemies so I could survive
      (jokes aside, I genuinely feel like it was just purely RNG, I had to go with the Abundance path and pretty much neglet DPS blessings for Healing and sustain)

    • @edgieststalker8141
      @edgieststalker8141 9 часов назад +1

      ​@@ognamesweretaken5836 "Followers of the Hunt tell me that worshipping Yaoshi is something bar, dude how do you expect me to survive the planet full of bugs then?"

    • @ognamesweretaken5836
      @ognamesweretaken5836 6 часов назад

      @@jerryeljeremy7790 actually i just remembered (because this was a while ago) I used Lynx and preservation TB, that was just barely enough to keep up (also with the abundance path)

    • @variareaver4658
      @variareaver4658 5 часов назад

      @@ognamesweretaken5836 Lynx with Pres mc or double preservation or literally just picking half the destruction blessings would make you pretty handily beat swarm. Most people found swarm hard because they didn’t know what the hell they were doing more than the sustains being weak.

  • @sameir5489
    @sameir5489 9 часов назад +68

    the absolute state of Honkai Star Rail

    • @ahlemlora1452
      @ahlemlora1452 3 часа назад

      Still more fun than genshin tho

    • @sameir5489
      @sameir5489 3 часа назад +8

      @ extremely debatable as a turn based game lil broski

  • @georgizerg4750
    @georgizerg4750 8 часов назад +42

    Yeah the star rail powercreep is unreal!
    But I understand why it happens. They wanna sale you the new characters and in a game so limited on player input, the only thing you can do is make the numbers bigger.
    That's why I've stuck with genshin for 4 years and dropped star rail after 1 year, I don't feel outdated after 3 months of saving pulls in genshin!
    In star rail's favor, it does a good job of providing a lot of endgame modes though, they certainly do a better job of giving you content to use your shiny new toy with.

    • @Satyr42
      @Satyr42 8 часов назад +5

      It doesn't have to be this way. Reverse 1999 doesn't do this nearly as much as HSR does, and in their 2.3 patch Reverse 1999 will get a new progression system that aims to bring them back up to current standards. So not only is the power creep not nearly as bad as in HSR, they are deliberately going out of their way to reverse the power creep that did happen. People do not seem to realize that by implementing such excessive power creep you're not only raising the value of new units, you're also diminishing the value of older characters. At this point the HSR should just be honest about it and stop doing reruns completely.

    • @kleber8793
      @kleber8793 6 часов назад +1

      That's exactly what it matters, more damage
      This Channel already explained that for example, use a team you're using rn and wait for 1 year, you won't be able to do the same again 1 year later

    • @Kyle81290
      @Kyle81290 5 часов назад +5

      The "new content" (it's just reskinned simulated universe or MoC) is the reason this huge powercreep exist.

    • @Kyle81290
      @Kyle81290 5 часов назад +5

      @@Satyr42 Reverse 1999 took one of the best things from FGO. Buffing old characters to keep them relevant.

    • @irena4929
      @irena4929 2 часа назад

      ​@@Kyle81290 did they actually directly buffing them?

  • @trickmonster7905
    @trickmonster7905 9 часов назад +28

    In star rail after a unit gets their 1st rerun Hoyo stops caring about them

    • @TOTGodofWar
      @TOTGodofWar 4 часа назад

      That is not even true.

    • @trickmonster7905
      @trickmonster7905 4 часа назад +8

      @ Fu Xuan Lost a lot of relevancy after her rerun
      Jingliu lost ALL her relevancy after he first rerun
      Sparkle lost her relevancy
      Blade… okay blade lost it b4 his rerun
      Kafka lost it all
      Black Swan lost it all
      HSR sees units after their 1st rerun as units that aren’t money makers anymore. By all means all the units i said above are good in their own right but please… dont be surprised when Hoyo just makes a better version of them.

    • @arminivanics1916
      @arminivanics1916 4 часа назад +4

      ​@@trickmonster7905 Kafka and Black Swan are still fine tho, they didn't lose nearly as much relevancy as Blade or Jingliu. Also Topaz is better than she ever was, after 2 reruns.

    • @trickmonster7905
      @trickmonster7905 4 часа назад +6

      @@arminivanics1916 topaz was specifically made for the future and FOA in mind. And imma be real here light come on E2 Moze is more powerful on Dr Ratio than Topaz herself -.-
      GENERALLY speaking HSR stops caring about a unit after their 1st rerun. You cannot tell me Kafka and Blackswan are in a good position rn because they just aren’t.

    • @cybersaber877
      @cybersaber877 3 часа назад +1

      @@trickmonster7905 That's because they don't have any new supports in like a year, the day a unit that's good for dot comes out, is the day kafka black swan comes back

  • @EthanLemon-w2p
    @EthanLemon-w2p 9 часов назад +17

    I love star rail but yeah a character expiry date in there is always very near. With older units becoming absolutely useless with time. Whereas Genshin allows for any team to succeed with enough time and effort

  • @skoverton5553
    @skoverton5553 9 часов назад +20

    If Genshin cut healing in half for most units it wouldn't be enough. mobs either 1 shot you or you just dont care

  • @RyuuKishiTheSeventh
    @RyuuKishiTheSeventh 9 часов назад +11

    I just want more 4 star preservation options man, the fact we've yet to get a single 4 star preservation since release is so awful

    • @haroldtheylez
      @haroldtheylez Час назад +2

      same, especially now that march 7th is hunt i don't use her preservation side anymore rip

  • @variareaver4658
    @variareaver4658 5 часов назад +6

    The funniest reason for the problems of sustains in star rail is the failure and complete lack of maintenance for the sub-tanking role or units that would appreciate a specific type of sustain due to a conditional. This includes units like Clara, Dest MC, Blade, Arlan, and Yanqing.
    I’m gonna mention Harmonies again. Harmonies stole the sub-tank role from units like Clara while buffing the hypercarry, because these units have nothing to build besides speed, bulk, and occasionally one other stat. They don’t require conditionals for their buff requirements either other than living. Robin had a chance to not be like this but they decided she was going to be CC immune in the entire ult. And because sustain, Pure support, pure support was 90% of teams, 3/4ths of your team was always bulkier than they should be with the one dps then having deeps stats. Due to the sub-tank role just not existing as an actual playstyle instead of a “yeah I put HP mains on the buffer” and defensive play being non-dynamic by the time people pressed basic every turn with Luocha and Bailu all the defensive role responsibilities belonged to the one sustain unit going +SP with no agency on how they approached sustain. No non-sustain except bronya has a cleanse anywhere on their kit for the team.
    Most new dps completely forgo old defensive destruction skills such as automatic CC Res and self-healing in favor of just pumping damage except firefly who I’m convinced they gave an HP focused playstyle and then decided to toss it for no discernible reason. All defensive play is on your sustain unit and nowhere else.
    TLDR: 1.X Star Rail had a problem with roles they tried to make but failed. Pls abandon the idea the old characters can be saved, you can’t save them and be interesting simultaneously until they rewrite the game to be able to do that, because the early characters are almost all incompatible with the game they actually made

  • @jerryeljeremy7790
    @jerryeljeremy7790 9 часов назад +48

    Aventurine > Gepard makes sense tho. You pulled for limited 5* stars sustain to survive better, if your Aventurine works almost the same like Gepard then what's the point?
    And I'm glad you mentioned Fu Xuan because even tho powercreep is real, FX still works better for Single Target Nuke (and HP meta) while Aven is more for AoE attacks.

    • @ayudanosequenombreponerme9660
      @ayudanosequenombreponerme9660 9 часов назад +10

      Is crazy how much doomposting Fu Xuan gets these days even though she's a really competent sustain and also has 2 of the rarest buffs in the game, HP buffs and crit rate buffs. it's true that there's only one HP scaling dps in the game and that he isn't the most relevant character but I feel like it's something worth noting.

    • @jerryeljeremy7790
      @jerryeljeremy7790 9 часов назад +5

      @ayudanosequenombreponerme9660 They are saving HP meta for 3.X and on from the rumours. So it's quite funny that he talk about Shielder > Healer right now cuz we know this gonna age like milk

    • @jukesdtj656
      @jukesdtj656 6 часов назад +2

      Even if it "makes sense" the problems it still causes are undeniable. There are so many different ways that you could craft a new character to differentiate them from existing ones that just making them do the same job but easier than a previous character is the most bare bones lazy way of doing it.

    • @shinidragon7775
      @shinidragon7775 6 часов назад

      ​@jukesdtj656 that's because Gepard has an really basic kit he's just "big shield" with really good aggro sprinkled on top. That's not exactly hard to powercreep even if you're not trying to. Aventurine greatly differentiates himself from Gepard with his FuA identity

    • @variareaver4658
      @variareaver4658 5 часов назад

      @@jukesdtj656 Gepard’s kit is
      His ult
      There is no other part of his kit
      He has 92 base speed
      Several passives that do nothing
      A talent that is one of the most useless talents in the game on any character.
      And an eidolon list that is terrible except E4 and whichever eidolon gives ult levels.
      Literally the only thing bro has is pressing ult for a shield and throwing a Hail Mary freeze once in a blue moon.

  • @tzxyuaesthetics9338
    @tzxyuaesthetics9338 9 часов назад +15

    gallagher > luocha is the most egregious case of it imo
    gallagher in break teams is expected to be super good but gallagher is a better SP printer because of his ult AA. this also makes him a better quid pro quo holder which makes using robin easier.
    everything in the game is weak to fire these days which also helps gallagher.
    whilst luocha prints SP and (imo) is comfier than gallagher in non break teams, his buff removal is useless and gallagher just has better utility

    • @variareaver4658
      @variareaver4658 5 часов назад +2

      In all honesty
      Luocha has been like this since his release. His dispel hits like one relevant target in the entire game and is otherwise literally just healing with no other utility, he’s about as capable of healing you comfortably as Bailu but with the stipulation of having one cleanse.
      He was going to be replaced the moment literally anything that gave utility came out.

    • @rpdotg7408
      @rpdotg7408 5 часов назад +2

      The devs even made the new enemy buffs irremoveable erasing luochas only utility above the rest of the abundance class

  • @Ginocide02
    @Ginocide02 2 часа назад +5

    I remember when Genshin hand-crafted new units to deal with Shielders. They made Rifthounds that deal damage over time to attack that they connect with (ignoring Elemental Burst i-frames) and the armored Abyss enemies that remove your shield altogether.
    Recently they've just made it so that some enemies just deal ass-tons of damage

  • @cardnacn6704
    @cardnacn6704 6 часов назад +10

    This is the exact reason that made me drop HSR. It's not even a year and Fu Xuan and Luocha got released that look like broken units and after I dropped, Aventurine just completely crept Gepard. I couldn't keep up with power creep esp. when I need a lot of resource just to build 1 character too.

  • @katiethefandomgirl4412
    @katiethefandomgirl4412 9 часов назад +11

    Imagine power creep in a game being so bad five stars become irrelevant as the meta evolves

  • @fulana_de_tal
    @fulana_de_tal 2 часа назад +1

    2:22 this sums up why sustain powercreep exists in one game but not on the other, in hsr you will get hit when it's the enemy's turn, not much way around that, but in genshin? You could simply not get hit. So why get the new character that does nothing but heal more when you aren't even losing hp enough to justify that? Think about Kokomi's release flop. This, and Zhongli does everything Aventurine does and came out in 1.1. However, he isn't necessary to go through the game's content, the shield is just a confort thing, so much so that Layla, a 4 star unit, can do praticaly the same in terms of mere shielding qithout that being an issue. Because, in the end of the day, you could toss your shielder and just dodge to not get hit.

  • @luke_at_my_art
    @luke_at_my_art 9 часов назад +11

    Oh wow, I legit just woke up a second ago osjsj
    And kind of funny you used this video to explain HSR
    Regardless of game, I love healers. Prefer healers over shielders. No point to shielders if my team is dead or on life support (yes, I know skill issue comes into play but still)
    I really like HSR but I hate how most cases you can't even enjoy your new characters before they get powercrepts not too long. Km a very casual player and I'm not far at all (haven't progressed to the second planet for many months- and I just do dailies)
    With Genshin, the power creep is actually pretty forgiving. Not everyone is meta and a lot of recent characters has given worth to even older characters.
    But HSR, from what I've seen at this point, if you don't get the newest characters, you're f*cked.
    That does get pretty demotivating as the only reason I got onto StarRail is because of Welt and now Boothill.
    It's either pull out the wallet or just try to not perish
    I just wanna enjoy my silly old man and my silly cowboy in peace :(

    • @shelltor2398
      @shelltor2398 3 часа назад +1

      But isn't that what Mr Leech said that was fine in genshin? Isn't part of the video saying (and I'm paraphrasing) "sustainers being better buffers is acceptable since they don't powercreep healing?".
      The point of the video is to say that sustainers are sustaining more than before, which isn't true IMO, but that's another story. It isn't about sustainers buffing more than before, because according to the video (I don't play Genshin so don't ask me) Genshin does that too.
      Also powercreep is very real in Genshin as well; Arlecchino, Neuvillette, Mualani, Kinich, even Emily are all way above 1.X and 2.X standards, it's just that Star Rail has a cycle based endgame which incentivizes people to compare DPS based on the number of cycles they take, unlike Genshin that as long as you clear the character isn't powercrept.
      Blade, Jing Yuan, Imbibitor, and even a lot of 4 stars can still clear endgame, it's just that the moment they take, let's say, 3 or more cycles they're rendered "worthless" by the community.
      Also sidenote but Boothill is extremely strong, and Welt just needs 1 god dang team that actually uses his kit to become good, so don't lose hope yet.

  • @Julmara
    @Julmara 9 часов назад +10

    damn wasnt aware that starrail is so new player unfriendly i was almost about to try it out lol

    • @Satyr42
      @Satyr42 8 часов назад +9

      Play Reverse 1999 instead. It's also a turn based gacha game, but with far less power creep and with confirmed plans to directly buff older characters in the near future.

    • @dazzlingdas
      @dazzlingdas 8 часов назад +3

      I had started star rail 2 weeks ago. I do feel these effects but not on that extent. During farming I can use my friends max level character for fun which makes it very comfy.

    • @CyborgRuru
      @CyborgRuru 8 часов назад

      ​@@Satyr42not to mention said buffs are actually good

    • @variareaver4658
      @variareaver4658 5 часов назад

      It really isn’t unfriendly, you just spike in power the moment you pick up a limited.

    • @TheodoreNoises
      @TheodoreNoises 5 часов назад +1

      Don’t let this dude fool you, he’s just kind of negative about Star rail even more so than genshin because he had an extremely unpleasant experience with it, the game is extremely friendly to new players and you can expect to clear ALL end game in about half a year or even less with full stars or score if you are smart about investment.

  • @quadowwadow1456
    @quadowwadow1456 9 часов назад +12

    oh, the honkai game has terrible power creep? yeah, and the sun rises in the morning.

  • @takendruid
    @takendruid 6 часов назад +1

    The fact that baizhu, a healer, powercrept healers as a whole makes me giggle a little

  • @Sazandora635
    @Sazandora635 2 часа назад +1

    DU has tried to apply band-aid fixes to the healer disparity with tons of max HP increases and a weighted curio that turns overhealing into shielding...but I'm not sure translating those mechanics into a future abundance character's core kit would fix the issues.

  • @KakaoPfoteMsp
    @KakaoPfoteMsp 3 часа назад +2

    i did not expect star rail in this video but i started playing the game not so long ago and its really boring for me. i want to like it cause i love the character demos but the combat is boring, running around without being able to jump or anything is boring, the mcs answer options are sometimes annoying the dialogue is also kinda boring at some point and the whole system where enemies basically have elemental shields like abyss mages in genshin is just really annoying. you always have to switch out your characters in any domain or any exploration just because your damage dealers dont do damage if it isnt the right element and there are no elemental reactions, for me its just a big downgrade to genshin except for the rewards and the more i learn about star rail, the worse my opinion about it gets. its a shame cause the characters are so cool but i have to uninstall. hoyo cooked with zzz tho, this game is a 10/10 for me rn, even better than genshin as of right now (i am only adventure rank/interknot level 30 in this game rn)

  • @buttermanaws4693
    @buttermanaws4693 8 часов назад +3

    This is pretty much what i saywhen i bring up older characters in hsr since if the enemies get too strong you have no reason to even pull old characters on reruns because you basically cant use them in any meaningful way

    • @TOTGodofWar
      @TOTGodofWar 4 часа назад

      Depends on the character. For example if somebody loves the d.o.t centric play style, Kafka is not replaceable. Even if Mihoyo released a lightning d.o.t character with higher modifiers people would just run that character with Kafka.

    • @Konkonnie
      @Konkonnie 3 часа назад

      ​@@TOTGodofWar Not really they can just make it so they don't synergize with Kafka one way or another.
      Like look a Acheron, she is basically a DOT who can crit her DoTs and she doesn't need Kafka and is way stronger than her.

    • @cybersaber877
      @cybersaber877 3 часа назад

      @@Konkonnie She has 0 application of dots except through break with Kafka also does. Pretty bad analogy.

    • @TOTGodofWar
      @TOTGodofWar 2 часа назад

      @Konkonnie Acheron is not a d.o.t character. Any character that releases with a primary function being d.o.t Kafka will sync with regardless if they are AoE or single target.

  • @evotheevolutions
    @evotheevolutions 5 часов назад

    Sometimes, I forget that Bennett can heal. He's just that broken.

  • @xelementalsupreme9308
    @xelementalsupreme9308 8 часов назад +3

    HSR was designed

  • @Tnscla
    @Tnscla 3 часа назад

    Xilonen just arrived and look at her haha

  • @Fran_5
    @Fran_5 9 часов назад +8

    Honkai Star Rail sounds to be as much if a shitshow as Fire Emblem Heroes in half the time 💀

    • @mr.protagonist5639
      @mr.protagonist5639 9 часов назад +4

      Not even close to being THAT bad yet.

    • @Satyr42
      @Satyr42 8 часов назад +7

      @@mr.protagonist5639 It's getting there, though.

    • @bluefirelost4650
      @bluefirelost4650 6 часов назад

      ​@@Satyr42all we need is a fedelgard unit and then we talking big time

    • @shinidragon7775
      @shinidragon7775 6 часов назад

      ​@@Satyr42literally not even close

    • @Kyle81290
      @Kyle81290 3 часа назад

      I remember when Hector was the most broken thing for pvp during release.

  • @VeronicaStorm98
    @VeronicaStorm98 5 часов назад

    I got through some of the Penacony story quest in Honkai Star Rail last night, and I literally cannot do the fights for precious chests in the overworld in Penacony without having Natasha on my team. I honestly hate having to rely on her and Bronya all the time to constantly buff and heal my DPSes. I have had to set the bigger boss fights to casual difficulty just to get character ascention materials. In Genshin, I could have a team of a DPS, two sub-DPSes, and a healer/sub-DPS, and it works out well, but the powercreep with Honkai Star Rail definitely makes the game a more unpleasant experience than playing Genshin. I also hate how you can't use any healing foods in battle as well.🖤💜

    • @RobRuckus65
      @RobRuckus65 3 часа назад +1

      The game really revolves around haveing a sustain and either one or two buffers. Like if you are running a dps as a hyper carry you double buff them and have a sustain preferebly the buffers/debuffers and sustain synergize with your dps. Follow up teams usually run more than one follow up attacker but its because it synergizes well together and leads to follow up chains. Genshin isn't much different but it puts more emphasis on reactions so you need sub dps , buffs and either a shielder or healer.

    • @VeronicaStorm98
      @VeronicaStorm98 2 часа назад

      @RobRuckus65 With Genshin, I am very used to balancing out my reaction teams and with Honkai Star Rail it has been a bit of an adjustment for me having two spots on my team being dedicated to healers and supports. I also really hope that I could pull a really strong 5 star healer in the game at some point to help deal with that issue.

    • @RobRuckus65
      @RobRuckus65 2 часа назад +1

      @@VeronicaStorm98 That is an issue with star rail have to wait for a good sustain to be available. Gallagher is a really strong healer for a 4 star he works best on a break team but is still really strong on a none break team. Lynx is also a really decent healer for four star especially if you ahve a character that wants to get attacked like clara or blade.

    • @VeronicaStorm98
      @VeronicaStorm98 Час назад +1

      @@RobRuckus65 Thank you for the advice! I will definitely try to build those two.

  • @Cameraman291
    @Cameraman291 9 часов назад +9

    stopping anyone from saying first

  • @darkdusk55
    @darkdusk55 8 часов назад +3

    I really hope star rail doesn’t become fire emblem heros

  • @MrErdtree
    @MrErdtree 6 часов назад

    I hope this covers the additional Shielder issue in HSR, where Shielders have a much stronger ability to prevent the team from dying by having a restorable health bar at all times that is on top of your base health, while healers are reaction based, where you restore your base health, and the healing is additionally reliant on the healers mobility, against bosses like Hoolay who just do whatever they want healers even if they’re 10x better than Aventurine in future patches, Aventurine will still be better against faster bosses.

  • @bighat8794
    @bighat8794 7 часов назад +3

    That powercreep fest alone is the reason why I havent played HSR yet

  • @zardon_zane1630
    @zardon_zane1630 8 часов назад

    Something like that happened to me on Genshin when I started Inazuma, still that made it funnier, I hate when things are easy on games, I think it depends of the person

    • @RobRuckus65
      @RobRuckus65 3 часа назад

      Inazuma just sucks. I have some very strong teams in genshin and inazuma is still my least favorite place to fight stuff.

  • @clown2005
    @clown2005 9 часов назад +4

    powercreep in honkai star rail is worse than of genshin.
    "but hey they give more pulls then genshin".
    ( i don't play honkai and just commented based on this video and other things i know about honkai plz don't hate me )

  • @Finalslashes
    @Finalslashes 5 часов назад

    In FGO it’s hard to compare because your either getting hit by normals that do negligible damage or getting hit with nps that to negligible damage unless it’s a berserker or they one shot you theirs literally 0 in between and for sustainers their all garbage if it’s pure hp and if it’s for shielder theirs only 2 that are used mash which is basically trailblazer/ first unit and castor ia that negates up to 15 attacks with ult while being one of the top buffers for one of the 3 mettas

  • @jonathanrobinson198
    @jonathanrobinson198 8 часов назад

    The day I got Aventurine was the day I let my Bailu retire and beat Golden Gears hardest difficulty.

  • @ahlemlora1452
    @ahlemlora1452 3 часа назад

    Let's forget about the sustain aspect of sustains and instead speak about a fun thing that's gonna happen in hsr. Next patch, after Fugue's release, would you believe me if I say that an abundance character is gonna become among the top 3 dpses of hsr ? (superbreak is such a crazy mechanic that, if Fugue's kit stays as the leaks say, Lingsha is gonna match Firefly's dps in Moc and outdo her in pure fiction)
    It's funny to think people thought they'll kick the harmony mc out of Firefly's team once Fugue is out, but now Firefly is the one that's gonna get kicked out of the team lol
    The new meta team will become Lingsha, Ruanmei, HMC and Fugue. Yes, a team with zero dpses is gonna have one of the highest damage ceilings in the game.

  • @adityawidarma3803
    @adityawidarma3803 Час назад

    what's with hoyo tutorial healer character kit aged like milk so fast. Barbara replaced by Bennett and Natasha replaced by Lynx

  • @sahil00001
    @sahil00001 6 часов назад

    Genshin. : Stay the same and release broken character
    still ppl say abyss is hard (tho this time they increase health but still easy af )

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii 3 часа назад

      It is difficult because the enemies bulk becomes too much for some older units pre sumeru unless they have cons. Even some have bulk to the point not even some of the more broken units can clear without godly artifacts

  • @shelltor2398
    @shelltor2398 3 часа назад

    I respectfully disagree.
    First of all, every single 5 star sustainer is able to sustain a team by themselves, Aventurine, Fu Xuan, Huo Huo, Lingsha, Luocha, and yes, Gepard and Bailu as well, comfortably at that, so Aventurine doesn't render "all previous sustainers useless".
    The example you gave, Fu Xuan, is most definetely not true, Fu Xuan is still and absolute unit of a tank, only being considered worse than the newer sustains because she offers less utility, which was your argument on why Genshin's "sustaincreep" issue isn't a problem, NOT because she struggles to keep your team alive. Anyone that has their Fu Xuan team dying needs to reevaluate their Fu build.
    As for the 4 stars, well we know 4 stars are meant to be weaker than 5 stars, that's just standard gacha practice, but i'll say that all 4 star sustains balance support with sustain, unlike limited 5 stars who tend to have both:
    March cleanses, counters and gives aggro, in exchange, her shield is sp intensive and single target, and her freeze has low uptime, she's still usable especially with characters that want to be hit like Clara or Yunli.
    Lynx is the abundance version of March; gives aggro, cleanses (a lot), gives HP and ATK and has CC prevention. She's also sp flexible since her ult heals, granted, her heals are low, but you want to use her with tanky characters like Blade or other characters with counter.
    Preservation MC is barely a sustainer, to the point even Prydween has them in the "specialist" tier as a breaker.
    Gallagher is extremely good for a 4 star, but sometimes even his healing gets called lackluster. However, he applies atk down on enemies on ult, he also breaks fire weak enemies a lot, which helps sustain, and he's the single most sp positive sustainer, meaning an occasional skill isn't going to kill you, he also applies break vulnerability as a bonus, and cleanses too.
    Hell I've even seen 4 star clears (so not exactly fast) use Natasha, and while she has close to 0 utility, counting cleanse, she has pretty serviceable healing that's more than enough to sustain a team with good investment.

  • @fable7372
    @fable7372 Час назад

    And then we have galaghar

  • @wingofshu
    @wingofshu 7 часов назад +2

    why does everybody says benette heals? its a bad heal thst works in a small radis, barbra is a better unit and healer then bennette as his circle impact is a joke

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii 3 часа назад

      Plus the self pyro application on YOU gets you killed more than helps so there's no point to him even healing anyways

  • @atophatduck
    @atophatduck 8 часов назад +1

    Yet another w vid

  • @nobody-xh6ii
    @nobody-xh6ii 3 часа назад

    I keep telling people that honkai's power creep is nothing to mess with and how its been affecting HSR.. and yet my F2P friend tries to constantly fight me on it non stop by sayinf how wrong i am. I'm not. I know honkai because i played HI3rd where after 1 patch they deliberately make the battle areas/abyss like game modes to be against your unit to the point they bareky do damage or none at all because your team comp is now ineffective against the enemies they chose to give immunity to.
    I even have an SSS rank w/ signature AND stigmata signatures who's the painter A rank. Ever since her first run i have had to deal with bleed immune enemies to the point i cant use her in the teams shes optimal in.. the spear lady who transforms into a battle suit to fight? Barely does damage after her first run. Same with the nun that has the butterflies. And those 2 are S ranks.. aka 5 star units. SSS is basically c6.
    Unless your units are SSS rank with maxed out stigmatas and weapon, you are screwed clearinf a damn thing.
    HSR has the same issue.. they nerf so much and do nothing about it because they rather watch you suffer by releasing new units and bulking up new enemies that go AGAINST the previous units. The only ones that have a chance to survive are units that can apply weaknesses

  • @TheFunnyMaskedFool
    @TheFunnyMaskedFool 9 часов назад

    What is your opinion on the state of zzz

  • @SainInaban
    @SainInaban 9 часов назад +2

    Yo buddy can you please make a video about Neuvillette VS Mulani. Like it's now frustrating that most of the Mulani Mains thinks they are the best character ever released because they can do 1 Million DMG in a single hit.
    Like they are people who say they don't care pull whatever you like it doesn't matter but deep down they support on the other sides.
    its just baffles me that how can people be such ignorant about the bugged kits of her and the requirements of a pyro character to even do your thing and. All these while Comparing and trash talking delusional.
    People who doesn't know about this silent conflict they should know what's Truth and what's just plain up Delusional.

    • @torbjornlindholm4098
      @torbjornlindholm4098 6 часов назад +2

      As a person who mains both Mualani and Neuvillette and has them whaled out, I’ll share my opinion.
      As of now (Mavuika isn’t released), it depends on what you do, but overall imo Neuvillette is better.
      If you care about speedrunning and boss killing, Mualani blows Neuvillette out of the water (pun intended) in any level of investment.
      For overall quality of life, over world gameplay and smooth gameplay, Neuvillette easily wins and it’s not even close.
      Overall Neuvillette is better but I can see the argument about Mualani being close.

  • @RobRuckus65
    @RobRuckus65 3 часа назад

    I disagree they have been making characters that synergize really well with other characters. Yes adventurine is really good but he only really shines on a follow up team or with acheron. Fu xuan is also still really good and is also really good with acheron. The new healer lingsha has one team she is good on and thats a break team so either firefly or the new ninja girl. Huohuo is still amazing on any team that needs energy. Lynx is one of the few characters that can give aggro to one of your characters. They all have purposes just not all teams are good at all content.

  • @rottuce5735
    @rottuce5735 4 часа назад

    true, i want to refund fu xuan, i think gallagher is just better than her

  • @andrewethan8012
    @andrewethan8012 5 часов назад

    I wish you wrote in the title SR.

  • @chippysfun5288
    @chippysfun5288 9 часов назад +1

    oh a pun

  • @Lad871
    @Lad871 9 часов назад +2

    You know who's gonna powercreep Mr. Heech LCG? Soul Artist!!

  • @irena4929
    @irena4929 25 минут назад

    Bro just here to dunk on hsr atp

  • @mrsphealtheseal
    @mrsphealtheseal 9 часов назад +1

    Ayyy I get the pun

  • @alexar75
    @alexar75 Час назад

    Sparkle is dead ,not event a year and Sunday just kill her xD

  • @bendyschannel5116
    @bendyschannel5116 8 часов назад

    E

  • @Daniele-PierreDuLac
    @Daniele-PierreDuLac 8 часов назад +3

    If the conditions to make your point in Genshin then just don’t make the video. Makes no sense to cook up a problem in Genshin then pivot to an entirely different game with different gameplay mechanics to justify your fantasies