Ady is the best league player is terms of actually playing the game. "Playing" is the key word here. He has fun, he is good, he is trying new stuff, not trying to be the best. Just mega cool stuff.
@@vanjamenadzer Comes from his pre-rework self and also post-rework self before the changes a couple seasons ago. He didn't have built-in armor penetration, items and builds were different, his ult was worse etc. Just got outpaced by other fighters as the game went.
Ady has a good understanding of the game and the mechanics to go with it. I always like to see players with the high fundamentals because they really bring peak gameplay.
League needs more players like Ady. Players (including myself) getting so caught up on the strong champs in the meta, that we are completely unaware of other picks and strategies that work just as well or even better. "Ghost Shojin Pantheon". How many other ideas like this are out there, that the playerbase has not discovered yet?
NOBODY knows about Taric right now. I take him jungle and he's the most broken shit I've ever played. The constant heal resets make you virtually unkillable. At level 4 I 1v1'ed the enemy aatrox top, facetanked every ability, and won just by constantly resetting the heal over and over. My build is blue jg item -> tear -> radiance -> finish winter's approach -> then Frozen heart/abyssal mask/BORK/Ardent Censer depending on what you need first. It's so fun, you play as a frontline support and make yourself and your teammates unkillable as long as you can auto attack to reset the heal. Although you're very reliant on blue buff the first few levels for mana, your early ganks are super strong. Atl lvl 3/4 I've even fought Graves's doing the most DPS they could and it's still not enough to overcome your constant healing from the passive resets. Sometimes I don't even gank after my first clear, I just walk into my mid or top lane, heal them up to full by spamming the passive, and leave. You basically give your laner a full health bar from a recall. GL guys try it out
@@cenach8145 Yep. I play bamicinder support taric. Granted I only got to D4 last season and ended there, his dueling power is really sleeper as a support.
6W 1L with the build at the moment thank you again for sharing those picks Dobby. I also tried Inspiration 2nd with Cosmic Insight and Barrier + Ghost. It's good for spacing Q's
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Me 5W 0L atm since i start this build with pantheon 🔥 thx ady really i love this playstyle, so permissive !
As a cooldown reduction enjoyer myself, I like to play Jinx with CDR and ghost so I can lower W cooldown below 2 seconds so when I repeatedly land shots the target is permanently slowed by 70%.
Pantheon only being strong early is a huge misconception. He scales very well into late game. His mid-game is the weak part. Other than that, this build definitely helps scaling even better.
That's just the vision that remained from before his rework when meta was different. Vayne was considered queen of lategame but nowadays her range can be too short, pantheon didn't have that good of a scaling / duel potential back then, now he does, he's a very good duelist lategame.
@@yulien7571 Understandable. Doesn't change the fact though. Most people think he falls off a cliff but he legitimately is strong enough to 1v1 almost any toplaner lategame
based, his mid-late game were never bad, he get 10% armor pen from his R passive for each point, with cleaver, with rank 2 R he already takes down tanks with ease, the only reason people think he’s weak later on is cuz everyone’s building lethality on him, which of course wont perform as well.
Pantheon "weakness" was before the rework, he have a decent late game, 30% armor pen + eclipse + cleaver, the problem is some champions have a absurd late games and become unstoppable
I always felt like pantheon didn't fall off late game, with the right build If you stac AH like Ady is doing, your cooldowns are up so often, and not to mention your empowered Q execute can do *over 1k damage*
1) Spear shot already established that Pantheon doesn't fall off, everyone is just terrible at him so they still think that like they're stuck in s5. 2) This requires extremely mechanical gameplay that 99% of you in comments aren't capable of. Don't first time this in ranked, you're probably not good enough to play panth normally in the first place, and he's not really an easy champ anymore so at least take this to norms for like 30 games to get the hang of it before you decide to grief your teammates. just being real here
I’ll be the 100th person to say this: Pantheon is strong late game too. At three items this champ (if itemized properly) is a menace in the right hands. The only people who thing he falls off must not be building him right or playing him right idk.
I feel like panth only being strong early is a misconception, if there's only one or two tanks his standard build does enough damage with enough armor shred to keep even with them in the late game. He'll always pop squishies, and if the team is super tanky you just build anti tank
When has pantheon EVER been weak late. Even prerework he could easily 1 shot the adc or midlaner with nearly no room for counterplay thats far from weak if you take a key part of the enemy team out with you. With a good follow up he was a beast
Hello dobby, could you please do some bot lane videos? I see a pattern that you do primarily solo lane, but watching your videos someone could incredibly improve in that area too Supergood analyst love your videos, have a great day!
Pantheon have never had weak late. His only weak stage of the game was midgame. This Adi build push his midgame weakness even further because gore is basically dogshit item which not stands for its own comparing to for example eclipse/rushing botrk or cleaver. A thing that the build does really well is pumping up panth's teamfights potential, because of extremely low cooldowns on his basic abilities which are insanely powerful.
Pantheon only being good early? We a few patches behind with this information....his mid game is very weak but the added 30% armor pen on pantheon R level 3 made him into one of the best scaling champs late.
mid is full of squishy mage just go full lethality, this build is for top lane which mostly never-ending trades and help Pan scale better agaisnt bruisers
Viable and works great for mid imo. Great for carrying since you need to be so far ahead in both in game and mind games as lethality panth to not get oneshot. Ghost works really well into skill shot champ too.
Well if people do not share these builds then they are still unknown meaning people who share them "invent " them since such a build has not been seen yet
Good video, I do find sunderer better than gore with this playstyle but I understand the choice. Also pantheon mains know very well our weakest point is early game. Pantheon stronk
It can but this will work most of the time if you stomp your lane obviously. Or risk getting outscaled. If you can get early impact as jg, then sure maybe
the first team fight was 20 seconds... sped up. why is the footage sped up? to look flashier? to shorten video time? why speed it up? it makes it harder to visually get a feel for what the player is doing
Ady is insane, but as a avid azir main, what the actual fuck was that azir thinking shuffling into panth in that fist clip, literally free q and auto before he lands instead of wasting that airborne time shuffling into him like that if you want to dodge his spear, just E first then Q after you reposition and stay spaced lol.
I see a few "Ranked URF" comments already... and I don't think there are enough yet. I play Kha'zix so Q every two seconds is my champion's thing too, maybe I build same items and watch my Q's have 0.8 sec cooldown lolllll
Ady is the best league player is terms of actually playing the game. "Playing" is the key word here. He has fun, he is good, he is trying new stuff, not trying to be the best. Just mega cool stuff.
No... He is Just the one wellknown
(Because he was caught in many big streamers).
No... He is Just the one wellknown
(Because he was caught in many big streamers runs in Korea).
@@jaymthesn5981 So he has been caught and noone else was caught. Just happened to be caught. Ok
According to Baus, Ady is the best player he has ever played against
@@Dingdong2730 p sure thats exactly why op said it
9:24 chaddest pantheon play i have ever witnessed
Ady with an actual humane build? Impossible.
"Pantheon is only strong ealy"
Spear shot: Hello there
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
AD Kassadin NODDERS
No idea where does that come from, from my experience, panth only falls of if you go assassin build, because he's too squishy.
@@vanjamenadzer it's just that he has no sustain for mid/late and all his damage is for burst which only helps when champs have low armor in early
@@vanjamenadzer Comes from his pre-rework self and also post-rework self before the changes a couple seasons ago. He didn't have built-in armor penetration, items and builds were different, his ult was worse etc. Just got outpaced by other fighters as the game went.
The mad scientist is doing it again 😵💫
Ady has a good understanding of the game and the mechanics to go with it. I always like to see players with the high fundamentals because they really bring peak gameplay.
League needs more players like Ady. Players (including myself) getting so caught up on the strong champs in the meta, that we are completely unaware of other picks and strategies that work just as well or even better. "Ghost Shojin Pantheon". How many other ideas like this are out there, that the playerbase has not discovered yet?
the Navori Ezreal build is starting to become a thing now since they changed Navori to always reduce non-ult CDR when you have 60% crit
Thats what i love about league
These bozos still don't know about lethality kled mid
NOBODY knows about Taric right now. I take him jungle and he's the most broken shit I've ever played. The constant heal resets make you virtually unkillable. At level 4 I 1v1'ed the enemy aatrox top, facetanked every ability, and won just by constantly resetting the heal over and over. My build is blue jg item -> tear -> radiance -> finish winter's approach -> then Frozen heart/abyssal mask/BORK/Ardent Censer depending on what you need first. It's so fun, you play as a frontline support and make yourself and your teammates unkillable as long as you can auto attack to reset the heal. Although you're very reliant on blue buff the first few levels for mana, your early ganks are super strong. Atl lvl 3/4 I've even fought Graves's doing the most DPS they could and it's still not enough to overcome your constant healing from the passive resets. Sometimes I don't even gank after my first clear, I just walk into my mid or top lane, heal them up to full by spamming the passive, and leave. You basically give your laner a full health bar from a recall. GL guys try it out
@@cenach8145 Yep. I play bamicinder support taric. Granted I only got to D4 last season and ended there, his dueling power is really sleeper as a support.
Damn, spearshot got this hard
what did you do to get him that hard 😳
"Who says Pantheon falls of late game, HMMM!? I'll tussle with you..!"
- Spear Shot
Notice he rushes AD before finishing goredrinker sometimes. Pickaxe and two longswords at 7:58
Very underrated concept. Whenever I play an ap assasin in jg or mid I ALWAYS get blasting wand and sorc shoes on my first two backs.
Dude is playing Diablo when everyone else is playing League
Diablo immoral sponsored segment * to be exact 💀
Can we talk about the Alistar at 9:00 ? Real chad cow
Alistar: Uh err yeah! that was intended!
Thats not a cow that's the goat
My champion is broken (spearshot says calmly).
6W 1L with the build at the moment thank you again for sharing those picks Dobby.
I also tried Inspiration 2nd with Cosmic Insight and Barrier + Ghost. It's good for spacing Q's
Me 5W 0L atm since i start this build with pantheon 🔥 thx ady really i love this playstyle, so permissive !
His champ pool has inspired me a lot and now it’s time to get some elo with this madness
As a cooldown reduction enjoyer myself, I like to play Jinx with CDR and ghost so I can lower W cooldown below 2 seconds so when I repeatedly land shots the target is permanently slowed by 70%.
I love URF too
Ashe mains: look what it takes to mimic a fraction of our power.
@@ezraho8449 shred/lethality "W spam" ashe is fun but it feels like u need 2-3 items to become effective
Pantheon only being strong early is a huge misconception. He scales very well into late game. His mid-game is the weak part.
Other than that, this build definitely helps scaling even better.
That's just the vision that remained from before his rework when meta was different. Vayne was considered queen of lategame but nowadays her range can be too short, pantheon didn't have that good of a scaling / duel potential back then, now he does, he's a very good duelist lategame.
@@srnght Tbf pre rework pantheon was a stunbot lategame at most and a cannon minion at worst
@@yulien7571 Did I say the opposite ?
@@yulien7571 Understandable. Doesn't change the fact though. Most people think he falls off a cliff but he legitimately is strong enough to 1v1 almost any toplaner lategame
based, his mid-late game were never bad, he get 10% armor pen from his R passive for each point, with cleaver, with rank 2 R he already takes down tanks with ease, the only reason people think he’s weak later on is cuz everyone’s building lethality on him, which of course wont perform as well.
SpearShot approves 🍷🗿
Has Spear Shot seen this video already?
That free quadra at the end was way too satisfying
This build is so fun and also actually good. You can go ghost/flash too if you aren't comfortable not having flash.
if you dont go TP your ganks in other lanes become less efficient, meaning you lose resources if you have to walk back to lane versus TP:ing
@@chefjimmybob I'm low elo you think I have to go back to lane
@@santumi2298 yes. Yes I do
9:24 God comes down
Pantheon "weakness" was before the rework, he have a decent late game, 30% armor pen + eclipse + cleaver, the problem is some champions have a absurd late games and become unstoppable
Thanks Dobby, because of this build Pantheon's winrate has been reduced by 2%, congratulations!
I always felt like pantheon didn't fall off late game, with the right build
If you stac AH like Ady is doing, your cooldowns are up so often, and not to mention your empowered Q execute can do *over 1k damage*
Your empowered Q on its own can make 1k damage (got up to 1,2k with full ad build) at full build, the execute can do around 1,5k if I'm not mistaken
Hello dobby, I really enjoy your videos and I was wondering if you will ever stream on twitch again 😄
love ur vids
Thank you !
1) Spear shot already established that Pantheon doesn't fall off, everyone is just terrible at him so they still think that like they're stuck in s5.
2) This requires extremely mechanical gameplay that 99% of you in comments aren't capable of. Don't first time this in ranked, you're probably not good enough to play panth normally in the first place, and he's not really an easy champ anymore so at least take this to norms for like 30 games to get the hang of it before you decide to grief your teammates.
just being real here
sooooo all of NA then, right?
@@KenjiAsakura09 and pretty much every region that isn't korea, yes.
I’ll be the 100th person to say this: Pantheon is strong late game too. At three items this champ (if itemized properly) is a menace in the right hands. The only people who thing he falls off must not be building him right or playing him right idk.
I feel like panth only being strong early is a misconception, if there's only one or two tanks his standard build does enough damage with enough armor shred to keep even with them in the late game. He'll always pop squishies, and if the team is super tanky you just build anti tank
It's due to Panth being that way for a very long time
When has pantheon EVER been weak late. Even prerework he could easily 1 shot the adc or midlaner with nearly no room for counterplay thats far from weak if you take a key part of the enemy team out with you. With a good follow up he was a beast
Like always? He’s literally know for falling off breh.
@@TerraTheWise it’s a misconception nowadays since his ult gives him %armour pen
damn, when pantheon unlocks his full spartan powers
THIS IS SPARTA!
8:50 I'm not sure Ezreal would get off 6 Q's in that time
That's how you know ady is a good player , he punishes info related to him as a player and translates it into game holy shit that's deep
What
@@oliverstaunton10 edited , autocorrect is a bitch don't asked me how , "him" becomes uk
Hes meta gaming amogus style
pantheon is strong early but doesnt fall off late like most people think
Doesn't fall, just hanging
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can i ask when do i rush iceborn gauntlet and goredrinker, it depend on enemy or what team need ?
hey dobby, can you do a video on the jhin support that seems to be popping up more and more
The King
does ady stream or have replays or anything somewhere?
www.twitch.tv/dlfemd24 here ^^
Pantheon has never only been good early he destroys late game
URF PANTHEON UNLEASHED
Hello dobby, could you please do some bot lane videos? I see a pattern that you do primarily solo lane, but watching your videos someone could incredibly improve in that area too
Supergood analyst love your videos, have a great day!
Cleaver is a better powerspyke as first item than gore but goredrinker build path is rlly good
time to try it out and go 1/13/5
Anyone have a link to the full build? That would be very helpful ~!
Ah Pantheon in URF mode looking mighty strong... Oh wait a minute... 😂
Ayo that pantheon cooldowns are literally the same cooldowns of a full build panth in urf
Pantheon have never had weak late. His only weak stage of the game was midgame. This Adi build push his midgame weakness even further because gore is basically dogshit item which not stands for its own comparing to for example eclipse/rushing botrk or cleaver. A thing that the build does really well is pumping up panth's teamfights potential, because of extremely low cooldowns on his basic abilities which are insanely powerful.
This is lore accurate pantheon
When he is going Ghost and Ignite, is he not roaming as much or just waits to have 6?
Were people not building SoS on pantheon? I always do, it’s literally a spear
The funnist thing is Ady actually ranked third in the Korean solorank
0:21 which cooldowns?
please make an Updated Tahm Kench Video!
Pantheon only being good early? We a few patches behind with this information....his mid game is very weak but the added 30% armor pen on pantheon R level 3 made him into one of the best scaling champs late.
Just tried this in a normal game, and had so much fun spamming abilities and stomping
You know this strat is actually effective when you don’t have a tank or bruiser in your team.
No "counters" section? Bold move.
ah yes, using building a spear on the character that has a spear, why wouldn't it work?
"Usually, pantheon is only strong early"
According to fucking who?
Good video as always. I wonder if there is any Yuumi unique OTP player out there, would be a good to see it
No
Funniest comment I've seen in a while
Does pantheon really falls of late game? When I play pantheon my main build is always botrk divine black Cleve it melts anyone
Give a new link to his profile, pls
Will this work in the jungle
It’s s13 and ppl still think panth fall off late
Lore-accurated Pantheon
I guess Jax is the ban since I don't see any of him in the last 20.
Last ult is nuts
playing the early game like the old panth
Ady made new experiment
so insane pantheon main
No counters?
Strong af early, strong af late :)
the E spam is what makes it outrageous
I have a question, its so important goredrinker? Or it can be first the hydra and then shojin? :O Well there was 2 questions XD
What does he ban playing this pick
Eclipse black cleaver botrk and lord dominik best build for panth
this channel is remind me of better times😢
Wait, can i use that build on mid?
mid is full of squishy mage just go full lethality, this build is for top lane which mostly never-ending trades and help Pan scale better agaisnt bruisers
If u are against melee mid(which is common in this meta) i think u can still get away with this
Viable and works great for mid imo.
Great for carrying since you need to be so far ahead in both in game and mind games as lethality panth to not get oneshot.
Ghost works really well into skill shot champ too.
@@torahama362 got that man) try to use but got bad game( bot 0-10 and 0-12), but still i do lot of damage and live so much)
why he not using death stance ?
Imagine many people use these builds before and don't share it. When you are known in community you "invented" it
Well if people do not share these builds then they are still unknown meaning people who share them "invent " them since such a build has not been seen yet
ok so basically build shojin on ad champs that fall of late game got it
wonder how long it will take for ppl to realize that pantheon scales late game.
Oh damn
8:20 ADC life KEKW
Where did people get this idea that panth is weak late? hes always been able to delete someone while staying alive with his e
Someone : He's weak at late - game.
Me : Seeing his ultimate passive skill...
Percentage armor penetration?
Good video, I do find sunderer better than gore with this playstyle but I understand the choice. Also pantheon mains know very well our weakest point is early game. Pantheon stronk
No, it's mid game, at 2 items
can this one go with jgl?
It can but this will work most of the time if you stomp your lane obviously. Or risk getting outscaled.
If you can get early impact as jg, then sure maybe
I think it's more suitable for Top
@@LoLDobby i just tried that with jgl, pretty fun ngl
panth is the only men that can tame such a wild stupidly broken champ as Fiora 👄
And K Sante but Panth is in to girls
the first team fight was 20 seconds... sped up.
why is the footage sped up? to look flashier? to shorten video time? why speed it up? it makes it harder to visually get a feel for what the player is doing
I should say '20 seconds *when* sped up', to clarify.
It's weird to present that as a 20 second team fight
hang on pantheon is only strong early?
he's like a champion that's so desperate for his items and when he gets them he is unstoppable
BUILD PLS
Ady is insane, but as a avid azir main, what the actual fuck was that azir thinking shuffling into panth in that fist clip, literally free q and auto before he lands instead of wasting that airborne time shuffling into him like that if you want to dodge his spear, just E first then Q after you reposition and stay spaced lol.
Can it jungle?
easily
I think it's more suitable for Top
Ady likes to play urf
New yasuo rework looking Great!
Fiora tutorial please
My bro is reviewing pro players and says that pantheon is only strong early
it's total opposite,panth needs items to pop off
Pantheon urf mode
I see a few "Ranked URF" comments already...
and I don't think there are enough yet. I play Kha'zix so Q every two seconds is my champion's thing too, maybe I build same items and watch my Q's have 0.8 sec cooldown lolllll
I've seen spear with this build like, a month ago
Just wondering who's first