Baking An Ancient Roman Cheesecake
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Please identify your casserole dish. Love it!
There’s a link in the description. Inexpensive and wonderful.
Thank you!
So this recipe is almost some kind of cheesecake lasagna
@@TastingHistory you are a trip max. Seeing a new video from you makes me smile.
It really is a trip when I see a cheesecake with the word "PLACENTA" plastered all over my screen.
🤣 that’s Rome for ya
I saw that and my mind went "wait, what?!"
I did a double take and I was like, wait, noooo. Well boys, time eat some placenta.
Somehow it made me think of tom cruise. How unfortunate.
@@TastingHistory When in Rome, do as the romans do (and snack on some placenta)
"Carthage must be destroyed!"
"Sir, this is a Wendys."
No, this is Patrick.
I’m ashamed of how long I laughed at this.
@@felbarashla this might be my favorite comment thread ever.
My friend Michael ended every speech he made in speech class with, "Carthage must be destroyed."
@@Amy_the_Lizard just like cato. I got a jist that why the senate agrees to destroy carthage was that they are sick of cato "carthage must be destroyed every time" and just to shut him up!!.
Someone really looked at a human placenta and thought, “Just like Mum used to make”
Lol
Most underrated comment on this video!
Hilarious
Ooof!
I mean.... she did.
Fun fact: Cato's entire agriculture book is actually a code which when deciphered gives explicit instructions on how best to destroy Carthage
I actually believe that
Marc Pig Cat, with a name like that😂 Did his friends oink & meow in order to call him?😮 Heeey piggy kitty, sewie meowser! You just have to wonder Who named him? Was there any thought process involved? Or was it a revenge kinda thing? Or a compilation of honor names but nobody thought about the combination detriment? Good thing Marc's grampas name wasn't Doggard!😂 triple cursed!
@@marshawargo7238 are- are you okay?
Wait, it's a stack of hard wafers, layered with cheese, then wrapped with a big softer bread. THE ROMANS INVENTED THE CRUNCH WRAP SUPREME
I am happy to have been the 69th like to this legendary comment.
Miss Rebecca - Yes . YES WE DID .
dessert crunch wrap!
Cato the Elder: "For this recipe, ensure that your Carthage is well salted"
ah...whoo...the burn...
salting the fields was a really savage thing to do
Brava👏
@@paavobergmann4920 it's more of a hyberbole, the soil of Carthage was very fertile to salt it, since the romans occupied it afterwards.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED??
Yes I am, actually. That was very clever of you.
Carthago delenda est
Imagine Cato writing recipe blogs with "CARTHAGO DELENDA EST" after every recipe, or sending emails with that as his signoff.
That would be absolutely hilarious.
In Romanian language we have "plăcintă". It's basically a cheese pie, it can be sweet as well (with pumpkin or apples). I assume the word comes from the name of this ancient cheesecake. 😊
That's probably a fair assumption, since Romanian is one of the Romance languages
I saw your comment too late :P, thank you!
@Simona Yes! And the Hungarians have Palacsinta (might have got the spelling wrong) - for a crepe filled with cheese (or some other fillings); I wonder if Blinches (Yiddish) and Blini (Russian) come from the same origin
@@blahza12345 I was just coming here to talk about palacsinta! My mom is of Hungarian descent and she would make that all the time. When Max said "plachenta" I was like "...hang on."
Yes, it’s clearly the same word. Same as pâine came from panem, câine from canis and mâna from manus.
Max: “Don’t let anyone Latin pronunciation shame you.”
Me: *stares down my old Latin teacher*
🤣
Romanes eunt domus!!!
It really doesn't matter how you pronounce it. But also CLASSICAL LATIN OR GO HOME! ;)
Wel, when in Rome do like the Romans and give others because of how they pronounce Latin.
@@HuevoBendito i believe you mean "romani domum ite!"
"IT'S A SOFT 'C'!"
"IT'S A SHARP 'K'!"
*Ancient Romans: Just lounging on a bed, eating cheese cake*
Eating placenta*
Living the dream
keese kake
@@joebyer7034 seese sase
Do you mean Kheese Kake? or Tjheese Tjake? or maybe Sheese Sake?
I love how some ancient recipes are super detailed like this medium length essay one.
And then others are:
Meat
Spice
Cook til done.
Why is it every time I see Max clack the hard tack, I burst out laughing. I love that it’s a reoccurring scene
I always think “Carthago delenda est” was the Roman version of finishing a conversation with “Thank you for coming to my TED talk”.
TED stands for
T.he time is now to
E.radicate all those
D.astardly carthaginians
@@averagejoey2000 It's been right under our noses this whole time!
Lol
Ivdea Delenda Est.
Or just replace "Carthago" with "Liberals" and you'll see Cato sounds strangely familiar as if things haven't changed 2000 years later...
His descendant (also called Cato) stabbed himself in the stomach as he didn't want to live in a world ruled by Caesar, the doctor stitched him back up but as soon as the doctor left the room Cato tore open his stitches and threw his guts across the room in protest.
Omg
Woah!!!
Stubbornness ran in the family.
He sure showed that doctor, didn't he.
Your avatar is awesome! Classic Cybermen!
Please don’t ever stop showing that clip of the hard tac. Also this is probably the fourth time watching through your videos. Endlessly entertaining.
I studied Latin at school and my teacher would get DEEP into the arguments about pronunciation. It's a cool language to listen to and I like EcoLinguist's videos where the test to see how much Romanian, Italian, Portuguese etc speakers understand. I never get bored of spotting Latin root words in English and other languages and being like 'oh I know what that shit means'
Fun aside: In German, the placenta (spelled "Plazenta" in German, btw.) is also called "Mutterkuchen", which translates literally to "mother cake".
it is the same in Dutch: "moederkoek" ...it's the shape and size of a cake, ony made of flesh and blood, and just as cake it is important it comes out of the, ehrm, oven, in one piece, or it is troubles for all involved
Probably true in all germanic languages, except english I guess. Moderkaka in swedish.
Morkake in Norwegian, same thing
It's fucky to me that multiple cultures looked at the variations upon "Mother cake" and agreed to keep using it. The word gives me vivid imagery of eating one, making me want to give a little kiss to an oncoming train.
What a beautiful language.
Cato: Hating Greek influence on Roman culture
Max: This would be better with filo
LOL
The whole recipe is greek anyway.
no one tell cato where rome came from
@@ollympian_art The Aeneid!
@@ollympian_art Rome was already an ancient Italian city state, though it's possible that they were originally Greek migrants, there's no real proof of that, it's entirely possible that the original tribes of Ancient Italy simply unites.
I work in a histology lab - we process tissue specimens (like placenta) - and we're doing a lab week potluck at the end of next week. Guess what I'm 110% definitely gonna make?
Chopped liver😁🥳
100% deranged. I approve.
going from a biography of Cato straight to "And here we are...Cato's Placenta" was just too much 😂
One time, I was visiting a friend in Kansas City. As he drove around, showing the sights, I spotted a very ornate and beautiful building. I Initially thought it was a Mosque or an Eastern orthodox church, and I said "wow thats a pretty church!" As we passed it, I could finally see the sign on it. It was a Cheesecake Factory.
That's the most exciting thing in kanas
@@NoName-cu2qc luckily it's not in kansas!
@@mattditto4087 forgot that there is a kansas city in missouri
Charlies Cheese Factory
The two linguists who watch tasting history as soon as this drops: YESSSSSS THE LONG RUMORED DESCRIPTIVIST RANT EPISODE
So very true.
meanwhile the prescriptivist linguists hasten their descent into madness
"many more than two" you mean
I count at least 4 of us.
OƿO hƿelċ is þēs
The letter C! My high school latin teacher (whose lessons were focused on reconstructed linguistics and antiquity) taught me it was a /k/ sound. But my extra-curricular choir teacher (who was specialised in classical music that used church latin) insisted that it was a /tsj/ sound. I was stuck between two pronounciations for years before I realised both were right and neither were right.
I swear, you and How To Cook That need to make a historical collab someday.
I'll bet Ann Reardon would love that!
She and Emmy (emmymade) already did a lovely one, now it's time for the Ann and Max version - yes please!
Me: I love eating placenta
Cheesecake factory employees: *stares in disgust*
🤣
😂
Not to be weird but there's lot of more whimsical ladies who eat their placenta after childbirth
My mom was a Midwife for a while and we met a lot of woman who did this
I guess theres benefits
Mmmm plakenta
@@thisaccountisntreal107 I've seen ads for places that turn your own placenta into pills if you don't want to straight up eat it. I would never but definitely is a thing people do.
There's placenta skincare too but I'm pretty sure it's just animal placentas in that
Fun fact: in both German and Danish the placenta (the birth thing) is called "Mother-cake" or Mutterkuchen/moderkage.
In Dutch as well ('moederkoek').
Sounds like something John McClane would say. "Yippee ki-yay, Mutterkuchen!"
I once referred to it as a baby cake and my family never let it die.
Moderkaka in Swedish as well.
The latin name does actually derive from the cake, because anatomists tended to name the anatomy they found after things they thought it resembled. There's also the acetabulum (a small bowl for vinegar), the sella turcica (turkish saddle), the hippocampus (seahorse) or the uvula (little grape).
Not gonna lie, when you pulled the cake out of the oven, I was like, "oh, it DOES kinda look like a placenta". Good thing you didn't slather it in cranberry sauce or something 🤣😰
Same!!!
The hubris involved in eating a offering cheesecake for the gods is palpable
What are the Roman gods gonna do, strike him with lightning and give him warts?
@@Foxxie0kun the Roman Gods? No. The Greeks Gods all that and turn you into a fly; eat you, have sex with your mother, sister, and wife just to rub salt In the wound. The Greek gods did not mess around when you disrespect them. Although most of that is just Zeus.
it can be palped
@@Foxxie0kun Genuinely wonder about who ACTUALLY ate the 15 pounds of cheesecake? They may have offered it to the gods, but SOMEONE had to sit there eating it all. or it'd be a huge waste of food.
Weirdly, this is more of a cheesecake than traditional cheesecake is. It has layers.
Cheesecake was *we* know is... more of a cheese pie, really.
What kind of cheesecake do you eat? Also what kind of cake? Most old fashioned cakes weren’t layered, just solid bricks
@@achanwahn Gentleman, gentleman, there's a middle ground here. It's the same process as making pizza cake. You just stack a bunch of slices on top of each other.
This is something that kinda bothers me. Classic New York cheesecakes like you find at Junior's or found at Carnegie Deli are actually cakes. They don't have graham cracker crusts, the cream cheese is on top of a very thin piece of sponge cake. I really want to know who is responsible for turning cheesecake into a pie
According to Jaffa cakes, a cake gets harder when it's old, thus it's not a biscuit. Yet a cheesecake gets soft. Therefore, a modern cheesecake is a biscuit. 🤔
(British definition of biscuit used)
@@astralgen Except the earliest cheese-based desserts (let alone the savoury versions)... were pies.
The comment section made me appreciate my latin teacher. She didn't care if it was c or k, only that we stick to one and don't mix it.
Like my tenth grade English teacher.
Kheese kake?
Lol my Latin teacher cared but she was never able to convert the kids who studied Spanish before taking Latin. On the other hand, my friends studying Spanish got plenty of laughs out of me trying to help them study but pronouncing Spanish words as if they were Latin
Its like the word "data".
Whether you pronounce it "data" or "data" is less important than how you pronounce "datum". If you say "data" but "datum" or "datum" with "data", you are wrong. "Data" and "datum" should start with the same "a" sound.
@@MrRemakes Same! At first I thought they were trying to bypass a filter or something by putting spaces between the letters :p
The placenta is not what the baby grows in, it’s what delivers oxygen and nutrients to the baby. The amniotic sac is what the baby is inside, in the uterus
Romanian still has the word "placenta" in it(although spelled plăcintă).And surprise surprise,it is a baked pastry filled with cheese or other stuff(literally anything you can think about).Of all the romance languages,we kept the word closer to its origin
I love how this is the second Roman cheesecake-type recipe (after globi), because any group that appreciates cheesecake to that extent DESERVES empire status.
It really speaks to cato’s oratory power that he was able to make “women be shopping” a law twice
Well seeing how little power women had at the time it's really not that big of a deal. But I do agree; he absolutely had some skill with words and presence, since he was continuously so incredibly popular and influencal.
@@Kardinaalilintu more power than in western europe during the 19th century, weirdly enough, because they could own property and appear in court
@@Kardinaalilintu Thank you for the obligatory "well women..." comment.
@@Kardinaalilintu Women in the east also had a lot of power. Even till present day. The only thing is, just like men, it was a certain class of women who had power. Face fact, men and women only had power when they are powerful or wealthy. It's a class and wealth thing.
@@Kardinaalilintu well, considering the fact that the women literally rioted in response to his laws... I'd say it's a pretty big deal.
I used to find history boring in highschool, but the things you pick out to teach in the backgrounds of what you cook, is more interesting than anything I ever learned in my history lessons, and has made me appreciate and enjoy history more.
Its a matter of perspective. You can either see history as having to memorize a bunch of facts that don't matter to you, or as a seemingly endless collection of interesting stories that are all intertwined. The way you look at it correlates pretty well with how much you like it.
@@hadhamalnam Amen. that's really waht makes the difference. If I could go back to those classes and take them again after having learned how to "think historically" History and english would be my favorite classes by far. It literally took ONE english professor (technically 3 but one of them was helping me out directly and the other happened to be a history teacher who applied the same method as the English one) halfway through college to really show me how to appreciate literature and history. Cause of his way of teaching. He would always say, "Don't take what people say at face value, instead ask WHY they would say it that way." e.g. WHY is George Washington crossing the Delaware so important? Not because of the significance of the battle, but WHY do we need to remember that in modern day?" and it paints a very different picture of how we see and were taught about historical figures that feels a lot closer to "the truth" (or understanding why we are the way we are today). It's really cool.
“Hey guys, today we’re baking a placenta”
This could TERRIBLY GO WRONG
How about: I did eat placenta yesterday
How?🤔
Cato the elder be like:
“Women be shoppin’ “
We all need a homie like cato guardin our wallets.
It's in their DNA
@@DaTooch_e - We all have the SAME DNA. Now get out of the way, I’m heading to the bookstore.
@@Ajehy Uh... no, we literally do not. If we all had the same DNA we would legally meet the definition of "clones." I'm sure that must have sounded a lot more intelligent in your head.
Placenta fun-fact: in German, placenta means "Mutterkuchen" which translates to mother-cake. So the next time I'll serve Cheescake I will call it Mutterkuchen
Well that's a fun word :)
My grand mother did make Mutterkuchen. And in Italy a lady served me placenta(she said it plaKenta). Both were very different and very good. But I think the recipe changes with what you have.
rhababerkuchen, anyone? ruclips.net/video/4OOLlmY2EFg/видео.html
I mean, in the womb, all the nutrients and stuff from the mother come from the placenta... So "food from mother" to "mother cake"... I guess there's an awkwardly chugging train of thought that connects there.
Same is true in Dutch (moederkoek).
i remember learning in my historical linguistics class about how linguists have tried to map out the evolution of latin and other languages. its so cool! i also remember learning that English "loan words" got taken from Latin more than once and we can kind of piece together some of how Latin was pronounced at those times, like roughly when Romans changed from pronouncing "v" like "w" to pronouncing it like how English speakers pronounce "v". so cool!
I like this. It's like sitting down for a nice story while we wait for our weird old cake to bake.
I love how Max always inserts that funny clip of him with the hardtack whenever he mentions it, literally makes my day better
Yes! It's one of my favourite moments. Perfect GIF-material.
Yes!
It's becoming a channel meme :0 I'm here for it 10/10
Ikr? Glad to see we all agree with this hehe^^
What's the time stamp on that?
I love how you've got Mew in the background, because placenta, because source of all Pokémon, because genetic parent of Mewtwo.
We're here for the deep lore people.
You are very observant, I probably would not have noticed that if I hadn't seen this comment. Also props to Tasting History for that reference, amazing stealth joke Sir.
I thought it was because it looked like a fetus...
@@baltasarjimenez2091 well that's why it looks like a fetus
He seems to put Pokémon plushies for episodes that he feels are appropriate. (Ex. The dragon heart, he uses Perrserker)
I do my best y'all :D
I just rewatched this again. A spoon would have been the most common utensil at a Roman table (along with fingers) for eating what you had taken for yourself/onto your plate.
I love your little guest hosts in each episode... I tune in for the food and history but the Pokémon make me smile
“It’s crisp and chewy, is that a thing?” As someone who sucks at cooking tofu, I can tell you that it is a thing.
If you do crisp tofu, try look up aburaage/kitsune udon - fried tofu can be really nice
@@crowolf3862 Japanese food is king
Haha..... Im a good cook but there are a few things I also suck at..... Crisp and chewy
This made me bust out laughing
As someone who ate tofu at a Chinese restaurant, I can second this. It is absolutely a thing.
Side note, I’ll never get tofu at that restaurant again. Not a pleasant texture in many cases.
I got an uppity friend who has studied Latin for his theology degree, any time I pronounce any Latin 'C' with a 'K' sound, he starts mocking me and throwing a hissy that I'm supposed to pronounce it with a _Ch_ sound.
Now Max has given me permission to tell him to go @#$! Off! Thanks Max!
“Chato the elder”?
german kaisar comes from caesar. i think it's no accident it's pronounced with a 'k'. it's probably a latin to german loan word from way back in the empire days when germanic tribes had extensive interactions with the rise and fall of the imperium.
What a chunt
@@oldfrend and the Russian “Tzar” is also based on Caesar or, Kaiser
He studied church Latin... which is closer to street Latin I guess. Hard consonants were most likely used during the classical period especially amongst the upper classes of Roman society.
Hi Max! My SCA (Society for Creative Anachronisms), a history teaching 503c group, loves watching your videos. We often share them in some of our meetings based on what we are talking about. I used your Roman Cheesecake as a follow up to a History of cakes class that I taught. We usually record our classes. I'd like to talk with you about using your video w/in our recording giving credit and links.
That hard tack video clip gets me every damn time. Too darn funny.
I like how he structured this series: First there's an appetizer, then a little soup, then the main course, and finally a bit of dessert. Bacchus is pleased...
No wine for you lol
@@WD-zk6fg That's pretty tough talk coming from a lubricant...
Yeah sorry it wasn't a smooth punch line we can't all be the God of Alcohol and drunk celebrity roasts
@@WD-zk6fg I am the God of Tit and Wine: I erect a shrine to to myself in every brothel I enter.
Pfff “Bacchus”
As described, Cato gives off big "That Kid That Was Way Too Into Being A Hall Monitor" energy.
With that money-maker attitude? I got more a feeling of the guy that forces everyone to still play monopoly, sticks to the rules and then makes everyone play it out even though its clear who wins.
Hallway monitor & wannabe valedictorian/popular kid at the same time. Also volunteers to mod reddit & run the HOA. 🤣
For a pleb he sure likes stomping on those with social status below his (women & slaves). Really cherry picks tradition/rules/dogma only when it suits him.
This whole thread is sending meee 😭😂😂
@@workdaygourmet also discord moderator...
When displays of wealth come at the expense of slaves, one should take interest is limiting extravagance.
So .. I finally baked my Placenta today. It has an interesting sweet, chewy taste that gets a bit of taste from the bay leafs. Quite interesting and good. What I found the most interesting though: It stuffs. Two slices and you're done with eating. So I think this is not a dessert dish. More like a farmers supper.
An opening sentence you don’t hear often.
Totally agree! My first time with bay leaves, but they really showed up. The crust was al dente, and yes, it filled me up in just one slice! Really good though, and the right level of sweet. Highly recommend!
I have just discovered your channel and I AM OBSESSED! Such good content and so well researched!
Much love from Canada!
Oh, man. Cato the Elder?
You missed a golden opportunity to make cabbage; the guy loved them so much he dedicated an entire chapter on different cabbage dishes.
perhaps later...
my cabbages!
But...why would you make cabbage when you could make cheesecake?
Cabbage is nasteeeeyyy.
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 You will be haunted by a certain emperor for all eternity
i love how Max really spent almost 2 minutes for a rant on people arguing about Latin pronunciation.. As a linguistics major myself, I couldn’t agree more!! 😂❤️
Same here, as a latin student
@@hithedragon7842 same, do you study medieval or classical Latin? my uni only deals with medieval pronunciations
❤️❤️
Linguistics major also.
Minor in Latin. If my school would’ve had a classics dept that would’ve been my major.
SPQR!
i've always wondered.... what fields take a degree in only linguistics? this isn't mocking or anything. i just honestly want to know. i'm an english student.
@@SpewnyBard nothing. That’s why I worked in the wine industry for 25 years 👍🏻.
Seriously though, I think there are more job opportunities in AI computer type stuff where they’re programming languages. I went to college before that stuff existed. Also linguistics are often part of the anthropology dept at some schools. One of my professors had done work in South America with a native tribe that had no written language. He had to learn the language and then write it himself, so there would be a record of it.
I just 'discovered' you Max and am completely addicted to your videos! Fantastic job! Clever, informative and just fun to watch! Thank you :)
Found this channel through the collab with Invicta today, loved the rant on Latin pronunciation, love the content, subbed immediately. Definitely going to watch the rest of the videos over the coming days.
The clip of Max clapping the hardtack together will never get old.
much unlike the hard tack, which some say is still lurking in the pantry to this day...
Can confirm, 1 year later
He should keep re-recording it using the same hard tack but still jump cut to it w different shirt and lighting and zoom for asthetics.
Two years later, still funny.
I love that he keeps going back to the hard tack 😂
That hardtack cut gets me every time
Cato sounds like he was not invited to a lot of parties. But I am glad he wrote so much stuff down
He wrote more than just this book on farming (one on soldiering and some other stuff) but those are lost.
With you all the way on the hard tack cut 😂
@@anonvideo738 Damn, the one on soldiering sounds very interesting
I was looking for this comment, I hope it becomes a running thing. The *tap tap* is going to get funnier the older it gets
oh Man!! I discovered you yesterday and I am already in love with your videos!! Great sense of humour, great recipes and History info!! Thanks a lot!
I love this channel. It's everything I've ever looked for. Thank you for creating exquisite content.
Imagine a congressman finishing all his addresses with "Vietnam must be destroyed"; this dude was on another planet
@@dgarrard100 A somewhat better comparison from a US perspective, but still far off the mark. No Soviet army ever entered American soil, annihilated American armies in their own lands, and through either force, show of might or diplomacy turned their own subjects and vassals against them.
@@aForkfulOfGold eh, I don't really see empires as having a right to exist so the "turned own subjects and vassals against them" part doesn't really hit me if you're going for any sort of apologist angle but if you're genuinely just comparing how Carthage is not literally USSR then good job I believe you
There's not really a good 1:1 comparison, though perhaps the way the Soviet union is drummed up in the collective US imagination gets at some of it. An interesting point of comparison is the way that politicians in both the US and (apparently) Rome use the idea that "our homeland is under attack" to justify wars outside their borders
or The Election Was Stolen! These guys sounds awfully familiar....
@@devong1838 My comment was intentionally framed from Rome's perspective during those times, because a comparison between the US and ancient Rome was made by the OP and the first response here. I did not mean to imply judgement on the morality of Rome's imperialism or imperialism in general.
How you read all that into my comment is impressive though.
I feel like somebody has to tell you that babies dont grow inside of placentas. The placenta is an organ that develops during pregnancy, and the baby's umbilical cord attaches to it. It's essentially a little food sac for the baby
i'm surprised i had to go so far down to see this
@@mackenzie5522 ikr, i was like 'surely somebody has mentioned this already' but nobody had
Yes, I was thinking the same thing!
Yeahhhhh, I was thinking this too. Babies (and placentas) grow inside the uterus!
You mean fetuses eat cheesecake all day?
No wonder I resent real life
I come on here every night to watch an episode of yours, and it's like my little slice of history class that I never knew I needed 😂
Maaaan ive wateched SOO many of these videos and out of order… the hard tack bit gets me EVERY time. I love it. Aaand i don’t remember if ive seen that video yet, just a million of those cuts
One time I was talking with a friend about italian food, and he didn't know what pancetta was. I had mixed up the words pancetta and placenta so I went on google and accidentally showed him a picture of a placenta.
Not the best advertisement for Italian cuisine LOL
I hope the misunderstanding was explained, or my country has lost a potential visitor :)
@@fedra76it It did come as a bit of a surprise for both me and him but eventually I managed to find the right word and show him what the actual pancetta looked like. 😆
"Accidentally."
Right. "Accidentally."
You were straight-up trolling him, weren't you?
@@fedra76it At least one
@@ShadowDragon8685 Well it's not like I googled "placenta", went on the images tab, scrolled to find a good picture, turn my phone over to him and _then_ realized "Oh crap! That's not what I was looking for!". We were both looking at my phone while I was typing "placenta" and then it showed up in the "images about" thing before I clicked on the images tab, so yes, it was accidentally. Though that would be pretty funny though, convincing someone that authentic pasta carbonara uses ONLY real placenta, no substitutes.
I'm just waiting for somebody to make a percussion track with that hard-tack clip.
🤣 hoping it gets sampled on Beyoncé’s next album.
Dude I love your shows very well done!
Lol oh Max I almost died when you said “placenta, the thing the baby grows INSIDE OF” I was like 👁 👄 👁 no no no... babies grow inside the mother’s womb (uterus) protected by the amniotic sac, the Placenta is an organ the mother basically “grows” to “feed” nutrients to the fetus/baby through the umbilical cord which is attached to the placenta. 🙂
They chill right next to it
Not quite. The mother doesn't grow it the fetus does and its not so much to feed the baby as the portal through which the fetus pillages the mothers body and reserves for whatever it can grubby mitts on.
Humans have antagonistic or invasive pregnancies as a result of us having invasive placentas. Thats actually why some researchers theorize humans have such a high early miscarriage rate, once enmeshed its very hard to dislodge a pregnancy. Look at the horror fetuses that won't die and can't live yet are fully gestated to be birthed and die...theres a reason you dont so much see that in animals.
Its also theorized to be the reason for so many maternal health issues like hypertension and gestational diabetes. See fetuses induce insulin resistance in pregnancy so it can raise the blood sugar and get more of that sweet sweet glucose...who cares that its killing the mother. The mothers body tries to shut this down and its an ever escalating war of resources between the two. Things go awry when one side or the other "wins" over the other. Its actually kinda neat and terrifying
I came here just to find this comment.
But the placenta gives nourishment to the fetus
@@juliaswandanner6944 haha same here
I have a feeling that Max (rightly) loves that hard tack clip, as he has bedighted many of his videos with it recently.
I could just hear the waiter, " Save womb for dessert!"
Now that's funny
A year later, and you got me doing a spit take! 😝
As an ancient historian and fan of good food (and trying out new recipes) I really like your video's, keep it up!
lovely channel my man thank you for teaching people accurate history in such a fun way
Oh my god, the irony that there's a mid-budget women's fashion brand named Cato's. I'm LIVING.
I mean, I am sure that you're also living, at least I certainly hope so... but I think you mean livid.
Well, how about one of the smaller cities in Los Angeles County? Goes by the name of Placentia.
@@TiernanWilkinson No, I think they mean "living" in the way people say that to mean they love something; because it's so ironic that it's amusing.
@@sweetiepielarae Nah its definitely livid because it means "furiously angry" and it would fit given the irony of women's fashion being named after Cato.
I kinda thought Cato vanished in the late 90s. Good for them that they somehow survived
imagine Cato the censor in literally any other culture in any other time. It's hilarious.
Englishman MP, in 2015 : "This croissant was baked yesterday in Dunkirk. France must be Destroyed!"
Isn't that's just most racist politician
We will build more schools for our children to attend to. France will be destroyed!
@@bagusamartya5325 "Today the temperature was 78 degrees Fahrenheit. Furthermore I contend that white supremacy ought to be destroyed!" Looks familiar to me.
Greek senator in 1821: "Uruguay must be destroyed"
No, they pick a brown country like America does.
Birthday night & I had to rewatch just for the rant, Thanks Msx & thanks Jose for the captions, I need those.
Happy birthday 🎂
@@TastingHistory Thank You Max & Jose!
I'm new to your channel and subscribed. I watched a few videos before this one and really enjoy them. I have not made anything yet but look forward to making some historic food and watching more videos. Hopefully you are still doing this.
"Sadly he never got to witness the destruction of Carthage because he died before it happened."
I, too, believe every man should get the chance to witness Carthage burning right before his eyes.
Wow, the word for pie in romanian (Latin language) is placintă likely coming from this cheesecake, placenta. My last name is Placintescu coming from placintă, so my lineage is named after cheesecake. Couldn't have asked for a better dish to be named after haha!
Cheesey! 😉
The German word for "placenta" is Mutterkuchen, which literally translates to "mother cake". So it seems that association is not restricted to romance languages.
@@MrAranton that's interesting! I guess the english saying for pregnancy, "having a bun in the oven" or at least that notion, is as old a time or at least as old as the romans.
@@lucaplacintescu412 "Bread is a good thing that grows in a dark, warm environment. Babies are good things that grow in a dark, warm environment." Probably the third or fourth poet after the invention of storytelling and bread said that, and everyone was like, "Yo shit, that's actually a neat observation", and so the bread-pregnancy connection spread throughout the neighboring tribes, towns, and villages.
Well Romania was basically created as a Roman colony so not that surprising
A modern version of this with a biscuit crust or something like that in-between the layers and a filo crust, now you have the makings of an excellent version of a cheese cake.
I find your description very nicely put...."not really a very nice guy from our modern perspective but from his perspective and from the perspective of many of his contemporaries he embodied all of the virtues and qualities of a traditional Roman citizen." I think this can be molded in to a statement about a lot of people in history that we look back on today. It is ok to look back on history and realize that they had a different understanding or lifestyle or requirements than we have today and that has evolved over time throughout history, while also recognizing their contributions to history and in many ways helping us become who we are today.
I love how Caesar and Caesar are both apparent in Fallout: New Vegas.
Balls. I knew I wouldn't be the first person to think of this lol
"The Caesar has marked you for death! Ready yourself for battle!"
@@C-Henry "RETRIBUTION!"
The Legion would say with a hard C, but everyone else used to soft C. Legion would also say Ave as 'Awe,' which is the more traditional manner.
Thats the first thing that came to mind as well. AVE TRUE TO CAESAR
My childhood latin teacher always insisted on the "hard C" (K) version, and he was old enough to remember the Romans first hand!!
Same here, though her idea that Roxette was satanism sort of took away her credentials a bit
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS MAX!!! i'm a classics minor and writing a paper right now about the Satyricon, specifically the passage where Trimalchio serves placenta on a plate held by Priapus (the Roman ithyphallic fertility god). This video is insanely helpful for picturing the dish
your video is now cited in a university level research paper, jsyk
06:10 lol! That expression when clanging your hard tack! 😂
Cream cheese was invented in the mid 20th century, and now centuries of pre-cream cheesecakes have evaporated. Glad to see it's being covered.
Vikings and ancient Britons made cream cheese.
@Half Knight I dont class fake processed cheese. I was refering to actual cheese,not a factory product.
hey now, the old style cheesecakes are still around and kicking in eastern europe! find your local polish shop and look for „twaróg”, it should work just as well as the roman stuff
You mean, 'american commercial cream cheese was invented in 1872' I.e the 19th century. Cream cheese (the original one) was first documented in 1583 but has its roots dating back to 1035....
@@pheart2381 cOmMeRcIaL cHeEsE iS fAkE stfu dude. That's like calling canned soup fake soup because it was made in a factory. Nobody likes a culinary asshat
I almost cried when he said 14 pounds for goat cheese. That's too much cheese
Sounds like you just need more people to share with.
Nah, no such thing as too much cheese
Wow!! Really enjoyed this.
How have I just now discovered this channel?!? My god this is amazing.
Max, could you do a video on the things surrounding the meals? Utensils, napkins, manners, etc? I'm really curious what it would have been like to actually eat these meals.
Great idea!! 👍
They just ate it with a spoon lol
"He limited the number of guests someone could have at feasts and other gatherings"
Me, watching in 2021 in the middle of a pandemic: Man was ahead of his time
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tyrants have always existed!
I scrolled down looking for this.
You took the words right out of my mouth!
Bro u made me wanna try and make this, again keep up the great work, I love how u always put a history lesson in amazing, now I gotta try this out ❤️❤️❤️
"And remember, they may have the Moon People on their side, but we have lovely hats! Those hats will shield us from their fearsome gaze!"
- Roman General
Will never get tired of the Hard Tack Clap. In fact, someone needs to make a hip hop remix of that.
hell yeah
That would be awesome! 😂
"I'm **told** that I'm not allowed to put coals in our oven anymore." Made me realize that while I may adore Max from a distance, I could NEVER live with him 😂
Poor José
I have charcoal...i wanna put it in my oven to see what happens now that iv read this comment. I need to stop scrolling the comments
@@aceundead4750 So...did you do it?
Ace is now fully dead
@@aceundead4750 will OP deliver?
"Two pounds of the best groats for the tracta" sounds like part of a plumbus commercial XD
Watching your old videos and suddenly encountering a few episodes of Total War: Rome Remastered shilling is hilarious. I love your passion for Roman history. Good stuff.
"Somebody saw a placenta one day and thought...that looks like cake"
How can I unlearn something? PLEASE 🤣
Take a combination of drugs that will wreck your short-term memory, or if you don't have any money, have a friend hit you HARD with a a hard object
@@peterjones6513 blunt object sounds more fun, it might even end you thus preventing further disgusting revelations.
The cut to Max bashing hard tack together will never get old.
I really appreciate that you include modern measurements after giving the ancient ones