Great review Ryan ! Let everyone know that Subaru no longer installs metal or aluminum skid plates on Any Subaru vehicle. Rallitek does offer them, however.
I just checked with corporate and you are correct. No longer available from their supplier and they haven't decided if they're going to replace them. I'll mention that in my next Wilderness video.
The shortage is from them being built in russia. Until they give up in their invasion of ukraine aftermarket is the way to go. Primitive Racing makes a nice set
This channel has HEAVILY influenced our decision to purchase the OBW and we have not been happier. It’s perfect for what we do in the PNW. Even getting us out of a very very sketchy snowy ditch situation on Mt. Hood. Long story short I called roadside assistance only to be told it would be 4+ hours to get to us. That definitely would not work. I thought surely the car could do this, that’s why we bought it. So I hopped in the car, switched to deep snow/mud, floored it and held that to let the car work it out and BAM we were out! All I had to do was trust the car and we were off to continue our adventure. Later that week I upgraded the tires to the Falken Wildpeaks. Now the car is perfect.
That's awesome that you were able to self-recover. 4+ hours is a ridiculously long wait time to get help. I'm not a Subaru guy, but Ryan's reviews of Subaru products on this course have given me the insight that a Subaru quite possibly might end up in the driveway in the near future. My only experience with Subaru was back in the old 80's 4WD GL wagons that had an actual 2 speed transfer case. Another review channel bashes Subaru every chance they get to the point Subaru won't even let them have vehicles to review which is fine, they still can't grasp how these AWD systems work unlike Ryan that lets the system figure it out by keeping constant throttle.
@@wildbill23c I'm guessing your talking about TFL. And sometimes they can give good information, but sometimes Roman can get on my nerves with his childishness. Roman seems so in love with EV that I wonder if he owns stock in some electric company or something. But he hate's Subaru with a Passion to the point I doubt his credibility on anything Subaru related. Sometimes his kid seems more mature than he does.
@@tritchie6272 Exactly the channel I was referring to, and I agree with you. I have nothing against Subaru, but its a really good example of why you have to listen to multiple sources before bashing a brand, or not looking at a brand just because of 1 review. Ryan is doing great with his tests of the Subaru AWD systems, giving me much more confidence in the brand that I would have otherwise overlooked.
I have always liked and appreciated your content. You never try to test a vehicle in a place that it is not designed to be. I have watched reviewers put Subarus on Jeep trails high in the Colorado Rockies, then complain that they just did not cut the mustard. One thing that many reviewers never mention (nor can they demonstrate) is the Subaru's safety rating. I had a 2022 Outback Wilderness. I LOVED that car. I was t-boned in an intersection, rolled and landed upside down. I walked away from the wreck. People who witnessed the accident were amazed that I was able to crawl out of the wreckage. Yes, there may be some better soft roaders out there, and definitely better hard core trail rigs, but the combination of capability, safety and economy is difficult to match.
Some automotive Journalist are idiots. I watched a woman review a minivan years ago and complain about it's cornering. I think each vehicle should be reviewed for what it is. For example, don't expect a minivan to handle like a sports car, and don't expect a sports car to haul people like a van or crossover. And don't expect either to tow like a truck.
Then you watch Donut Media put 2 engines in the same wrx, as well as two new cars 😂 I love watching Subaru capability, but not for long term ownership... Unless the wife says otherwise...
I really enjoy these videos seeing how the AWD systems work! I will say what sold me on Subarus AWD system was seeing it in action. I was in Baja and a lady got stuck in an older mid 2000s forester (on street tires). This car was in deep sand and on a steep hill. This terrain was so steep that I wouldn't have attempted the hill with a Tacoma or wrangler, let alone a forester on street tires. We aired down the tires and With a few people pushing to get it moving, it literally climbed up this steep and deep sandy hill. I couldn't believe it! You could see the AWD system sending power to each wheel and it just crawled up. No x mode needed!
I love these stories! I mean, they are completely fake, but entertaining. Subaru's not getting out of something a wrangler couldn’t, facts. Subaru is also way better built, more comfortable, more efficient, and will offer more room. No need to pretend they are crazy off-roaders, but are simply a little better than your average cross over.
@@GeorgeOrwell-tp8dwdepends on what you do to them. My old 15 Crosstrek I had a rear locker, lift, winch, and more. And I could keep up with most jeeps and off roaders.
The 9 inches of ground clearance is what is drawing me to this vehicle...we occasionally get some decent snow here in southern Idaho, so a vehicle with ground clearance is a must...the AWD system is capable, but in many cases with different vehicles you are let down by the lack of ground clearance.
It’s worth noting impressive chassis rigidity. When the vehicle gets a wheel up in the air like that and he opens the door and gets out it’s a real testament to the strength of the chassis.
I agree, Ryan does an awesome job showing off what a vehicle can actually do when given the chance, and isn't afraid to get them dirty but knows when to stop before causing serious damage. He also isn't afraid to give his personal opinion on stuff either which is what a potential buyer needs to hear, rather than the paid advertisers that you see so often saying nothing but its amazing, I wanna know the good and the bad so I know before I go checkout a vehicle.
I really appreciate how you have taken the time to understand the modes and explain them correctly. There are other review channels I won't mention, who do NOT give the car the time to figure things out, and just give it a fail, or have it in the wrong mode. I have found that for most situations including most offroad situations, regular mode, is still the best one to be in. I call it Xmode2. Xmode 1 has less spin than 2, and 3 has more. That's pretty much it. I probably would have used Xmode2 on that last slippery hill obstacle, and definitely wouldn't have pressed to brakes to slow down in that soft dirt. That simply makes a hole with a curb in front of it. If you need to slow down offroading an incline, just take foot off gas. Never brake in soft muddy soil. I have to give you a pass because I know you are trying to baby a borrowed vehicle and trying not to damage it. Xmode 2, which is just basically the regular driving mode, is actually the right choice in most situations. All of them are active torque vectoring. They just have different tolerance for spin. 1 wouldnt be great there. 2 allows enough spin but is fairly aggressive in that situation. 3 might allow too much spin because of the grade, and you won't have enough torque on the ground to defeat the grade. That's just from experience. But I might have needed to switch it out if it didn't work, and XM3 was definitely the right end of the spectrum to lean towards if 2 wasn't working. People make a mistake of turning on Xmode 1 just because they hit the dirt road. But you don't want to drive around in Xmode 1 just because you're in the dirt, because it will put unnecessary attention to braking, and also cut your fuel economy. Use em when you need em. Regarding the Forester Wilderness, it is a great choice too. Not as much power, but the power is much easier to modulate. The Wilderness, until you learn how to control the inputs, has a tendency to have not enough power, and then rocket ship into orbit suddenly. Which is not actually that useful of a feeling when trying to be careful near trees and obstacles. You can heel toe the brake and accelerator, or just learn the timing of the dance of the CVT, Turbo, And Logic. I'm almost a part of my vehicle now, I can sense when the power is about to pounce. I wish it was easier to modulate, but I'm still glad that it is so powerful when it arrives. In most cases you don't need near the power this car has, and would prefer the modulation of the non turbo Forester. I'm just being honest. And I've seen reviews where the Forester BEAT the Outback on some obstacles, because of it's control, where the Outback put too much power down too fast and just burned out instead of moving. Anyway, great review. I appreciate the fairness. I own this vehicle and love it. I actually forgot this had hill descent mode when in Xmode. I've never used it. I need to try that soon. Databyter😄
Would love an updated Ascent challenge with the 2023 since it has dual x mode-for those of us who still need 3 rows, but want to get off the pavement and into the mud.😊
I love my Outback Wildernes. LIttle gas hungry, but plenty of power and good ground clearance, plus looks much more muscular than regulat outback...which I would never buy lol. Thank you for showing people what this car can do.
@@drivingsports I have to admit that your testing/reviews of them seem more fair, sensible and better explained than most I've seen. I like that you review crossovers and hope someday you can review AWD vans as well. Someday I may get me a crossover to camp in. At least that's what I'm currently leaning toward doing when finances allow. And while I'm at it I want to address something I've seen used in alot of comment sections as an insult. Grocery getter. Well, I like to eat. And when it's time to get groceries I don't want weather to prevent that. Also. I work nights. I want to get home when its time no matter the weather. Where I live don't consistently get snow like Y'All get, but when it does snow it can sometimes take abit of time for certain roads to get cleared.
THIS is the #1 channel for Subaru Wilderness model content. Ryan, if at all possible, I'd LOVE to see you do a head to head between the Outback Wilderness and the (hear me out) Ford Maverick Tremor. As I consider my next vehicle selfishly (I have a 2015 Outback), I'd like something modestly more capable, but not something to the level of a 4Runner or Taco (too expensive for my liking and not as practical as a daily driver.) Someone like me who likes the idea of a truck bed looks at the Maverick Tremor and sees it as potential competition to my Subaru Outback wagon for daily driving, but also mildly soft off roading.
I agree as well. Although if I picked a Maverick I'd just get the Fx4 model...and retain the 4K tow package, the Tremor drops the 4K tow package option, and doesn't really give you much more usefulness. I'm starting to like these Wilderness package Subarus but I'd love that little Maverick truck for so many things.
I agree 💯 % Ryan should rename this channel “Subaru Sports TV”. The Maverick tremor will be in another league. The base model Maverick AWD will be closer competition. Watch the video Ryan did of the outback wilderness vs. Ford Maverick FX4. On the final obstacle, the Maverick completed the obstacle in normal mode. The Outback couldn’t make it in Normal or xmode 1, but I believe it made it with xmode 2 with some momentum.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring great comment, I've seen that video but forgot about that aspect. In this case then, I'd like to see if the Maverick Tremor CRUSHES the Outback Wilderness. :)
I Officially own a 2023 Subaru Outback Wilderness and i have had it since March of 2023, But I haven't tried all of the features on it, and Im really loving everything about it. The reason why I really got this is because I really want to take it on Trails and where My Wrx can't go i can definitely can try This Wilderness out for sure. I was Skeptic at first but I love it even better now.
glad to see you point out more specifics on how xmode works, especially reg dirt/snow, too many reviews for these cars have popped up the last year where as soon as wheel spin happens people let off the throttle and try again. you just gotta give it the beans!
HAHA, I've caught that as well in every other tester video, and one particular channel comes to mind with any AWD vehicle they test as soon as a wheel slips they stop and act as if the vehicle is a piece of crap rather than they're lack of brains is the problem. Subaru just keeps on getting better, wish they'd offer a little truck again like the Subaru Baja or something similar....right now I'm kind of looking towards the Maverick, but the same time the growing want to get into a Subaru for the first time since well...the old 80's GL 4WD Wagon era LOL.
I’d love to get that wilderness edition…..wayyyy out of my price range. Definitely a very well engineered vehicle for just about anything you want to do
Since Subarus retain their value so well, and the company's "guaranteed trade-in" bit is one of the most generous such programs out there, a way to get into an OBW is to start with, say, a Premium, especially if you can get a low or 0% APR on financing, pay it down to less than $10k owed, then trade it in and get enough to pay it off and still have enough left over to put an even bigger down payment on the OBW than you did on the Premium. You could very well end up with payments about the same as the Premium (or, at the very least, still within manageable territory), especially depending on what interest rates are doing at that point. It's how I managed to step up to the '24 OBW from the '20 Premium after just shy of three years of payments. And that's with a *higher* interest rate on the OBW than I had on the Premium.
I used to have a Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited. We vacationed in Colorado going down forest roads while everyone else was using Jeeps. We had no problems with it and it will get you to 98% of the places you want to be at.
I’m in the process of getting my obw hope to pick it up Tuesday, I don’t expect it to do jeep wrangler stuff. This looks great to me and most of us won’t be stopping to talk while trying to get up a hill. Thanks for the vids
Another excellent video, aimed at the non-pro who may want to occasionally check out wilderness trails. Itsa 10! Good job, Ryan, again and again and again!
I have this car, too. In the cluster over the large infotainment screen, you can modify the content that shows in JUST the top portion of the screen. One choice is ... the percentage of up/ down grade as a display. Doesn't show the gauge with percentage of front/ back AWD, but does show the up/ down of the gradient the car is at. I can't quite remember if you can have the front camera on PLUS this feature but I THINK it can show both. I'll check now that the question arises. An example of when you needed it in this video is at 11:18. You turn on the front camera and so you turn off the vehicle stats. But ... one portion of the infotainment screen at the very TOP is still visible. THAT PORTION can be changed and show the percentage gradient while the camera is on.
But then you can't have the XMode toggles accessible. Since Mode 1 shuts off at speeds over 25, we need to keep an eye on it to confirm it's on. But outside of that, very good point.
When the front camera is activated, the top portion of the screen always displays the X-mode buttons, regardless of what you have it set to otherwise. I normally have the angle up top as well, I just use the front camera button as a shortcut to pull those buttons up without having to scroll over.
Got my OBW this summer. Cannot wait for snow here to test. Sr has been very good so far. Zero complaints. Swiss Army knife and won’t cost arm leg to fix if when something goes wrong. Tires too are not over the too expensive to replace compared to other suvs I’ve owned like an X5.
I've had my OBW for a year and I live in eastern Canada. We get snow. The stock tires are nowhere as good in snow as the Blizzaks I put on my previous Forester, but they're acceptable for someone like me. I'm retired and don't have to be anywhere at any particular time, so if it's really bad, I stay home.
Excellent review as always. I love my Outback Wilderness. Does everything I need it to do. My gripes are the same as here. The information center is overly complicated and slow responding. Also glitches out occasionally. I wish the heated seat and AC/heat controls were knobs and switch’s and not within the system. Subaru, you almost hit an A+.
@@RollerCoasterLineProductions 3 out of 4 auto infotainment systems suffer the same complaints, no matter how expensive the vehicle. And I agree with you.
I love your videos! My OBW has been modified (lift, tires, skidplates, etc.), and I'm in WA, too. Im out every weekend, but I wish I could visit some of your trails!
That's great to hear. I think these Subarus are far more capable than many give them credit for, especially when you are on light trails and backroads where these cars were really designed to drive on.
Let’s not get too carried away here. No one actually believes these are as capable as 4runners, broncos, Wranglers I hope. That’s not what this competes with.
Ryan, I am a huge fan! I have a 2022 Outback Wilderness in Crystal White. Now I seriously doubt that colour has anything to do with it, but I found that the AWD system learns, as strange as that seems. First time in deep snow @ 1,700 kms (1,000 miles) it didn’t seem nearly as sure footed as it does now, 14,000kms (8,700miles). It’s almost as if the system has to learn. I would be interested to see if a higher mileage Outback Wilderness would do better on the course or whether I am just imagining things.
I love my ob wilderness, but the first thing I did to it was upgrade the tires, the ones that come stock aren't the greatest a/t tire. Took it offroading the day I got it to a trail I do all the time in my 2018 crosstrek, and failed on obstacles I've never had issues on. Replaced the tires the next day to the 245/65/r15 toyo open country AT3s and went back to the same trail and smashed it.
You well deserved that. Who knows, maybe they will consider soon. Again the best Subaru test videos is yours. I bought Subaru Forester thanks to your detailed, well thought test videos 👏
Alway surprised how well the subie does with X mode on, continues to impress, though if you don’t have it ‘on’ the ‘normal’ mode doesn’t look like it works very well at all. Great video!
I got the 2020 Premium in September of 2020, and I immediately started hoping for a decent snow event that winter to really test it out. While I waited for the seasons to pass the rest of the year, I put some Falken Wildpeak AT Trail tires on it. Now, the thing about living in the south is that significant snow is an exceedingly rare occurrence, and even then, it might amount to no more than 4-6 inches. But, that winter, we ended up with not one, but two 10" snowstorms one day apart with no melt-off in between. I took my Premium with its 8.7" of ground clearance everywhere, including up the steepest streets we have in my city (and they can get *very* steep). I would even come to a complete stop on them, just to see if it could take off again. It made it up every single 10" or deeper snow-covered hill I tried, and I didn't once have to turn on X-mode (and it only had the single snow/dirt option if I would have, being just the Premium trim). All that's to say that, with some decent tires, X-mode is likely not even needed in the vast majority of adverse driving conditions in which Outback owners might find themselves. Now that I have an OBW with even more ground clearance and a much more powerful engine, I have no doubts about how well it will perform in any conditions I might ever encounter. Driving the Premium in all that snow was effortless and drama-free. I'd never had so much fun in such weather.
Ryan, just love your AWD Subie content. Given how your testing locations and conditions have evolved over time, I'd love to see how well a stock 2.5L NA current Outback would perform on the Chicken run, Logging Road Rock test, and Muddy Hill climb test. I suspect it won't pass the Muddy Hill due to stock tyres and insufficient power/weight ratio, but it would still be great fun to watch (and not to diss the 2.5L Outback, I have the Australian 2022 model !).
I really like your off road tests. I cross shopped the OBW and the Bronco Sport Badlands, after previously owning two Subaru's and ended up ordering the BS for it's better approach and departure angles plus I hated the touch screen on the OBW. I'd like to see The Bronco Sport Badlands on this course.
You made a good choice R West. I’d say the Bronco Sports badlands is the most capable AWD vehicle in 2022, dethroning the iVTM4 Hondas. Glad Ford and Honda are competing for the top spot, but it’s only ford that offers something in the compact segment that’s capable.
Subie has it easy with me: my short list of two is the Forester Wilderness...and the Outback Wilderness. My only reason to wait to pull the trigger on a deal, at this moment, is that Forester hybrid that's just around the corner. If Subie offers a hybrid Forester Wilderness, shut up and take my money. There's pros and cons to both the Outback and the Forester. Thing is: the lots are so small at the moment that you can't really go for a test drive with both of them right now. I lean towards the Forester, but since i'm living on the country where there's lots of two-lanes highways, I need passing power. So maybe the Forester ain't what i'm looking for. But then again, my dear German Shepherd will probably be more comfortable in the Forester. So i'm still hesitating. Ryan, is that small boxer in the Forester enough when you need to make a quick pass or should I really go for the turbo engine in the Outback?
OK team! Welcome to the weekend!!!! This is the drinking game video of the week!! Each time he gets out of the car, take a shot and keep count. The first couple to submit the correct answer wins the weekly pot! Best of luck!!
Love your reviews on Subarus! By any chance you will be making more content on the Subaru Ascent? Would love to see if the Ascent can go through your courses
Random comment! I would love to see you test out a BMW X3 M40i on some of these off road trails -- based on the few videos that are out there on youtube it seems like the x3's brake vectoring is actually pretty good at getting power to the right places so I'm curious to see how it does compared to these dedicated soft roaders.
Just one problem ! 😕 You got the wrong tires on the car for off reading . You need Goodyear Altra Grips it's a 4x4 truck tread on a car snow tire that you can have on Year around . Or you can try Goodyear Altra Grip Ice . They are directional tires meaning the tread on all 4 tires are in the same direction . I use to work for Goodyear I would know .
I use hill decent on my icy dirt roads roads all winter. It works good with proper tires. The oem tires on the touring xt were a challenge on ice. Really wish it could fit chains like my truck for bad ice.
The choice of tire is paramount to a given terrain. A mud tire gives the best off-road traction but has terrible longevity on-road and usually is loud from the large spacing between the tread blocks.
Thanks Ryan for showing what these Subarus can actually do, unlike another review channel that can't figure it out, you do it right and give the AWD systems time to do their job. Subaru really should hand you their fleet of different vehicles for a full on in depth comparison with every model they have. Maybe a WRX in the future? Although I don't think it would do your course do to ground clearance issues, but a snow course would be interesting with a WRX. The WRX seems more like a rally type car/street car...but the Outback and Forrester models would be something I'd certainly consider. The wilderness models is what I'd choose, just gotta decide betweeen the Outback or Forrester HAHA!! Would be great if Subaru would put a limited slip or selectable locker in the Wilderness models....maybe give them a hint....I bet the car would be almost unstoppable with a locker in many cases. I'm looking at something along the size of what the Toyota Highlander is, would that be a Forrester or Outback?
@@drivingsports HAHA, I would hope you would give them feedback, its helpful to them I'm sure to hear from people like you who do real world testing. Thank you for the vehicle comparison I'll checkout the Ascent at some point, but would really enjoy the Outback or Forrester with the Wilderness package for sure. The added ground clearance I think would be a huge plus in snow country. Thanks again for all your great honest reviews in places that most people would actually take their vehicles.
Love the video ! thank you for always making great content I would love to see the Subaru Crosstrek Sport VS the Outback Wilderness off road capability ...
We've finally gotten these in Australia. Placed an order as soon as pricing was announced, supposed to be here in a months time. Watching these videos is helping me get through the waiting game. I notice that you never air down the tyres at all, is that to keep it a level game or just to showcase the X-mode tech working without any external assistance?
@@drivingsports I'll be interested to see that. The Honda has actual clutch packs to redirect power, not just wheel braking like the Subaru, which is theoretically better. But I always wonder whether or not it works better in the field. Will there be obstacles that the Honda can handle that an OB Wilderness can't manage? It would make for an interesting comparison.
I'd love to see how the Ford Explorer Timberline does on your course along with other off road leaning SUVs. I remember you didn't seem fond of the Timberline during your last review but I have one and I absolutely love it.
I really want to see subaru produce a version to truly compete with the 4runner and other SUVs in the off-road category so a true modified off-road suspension and a slightly better approach and departure angles and lower gearing for less momentum driving.
Does the Outback Wilderness got potential to last for atleast 10 years?? I know it is not Toyota level but still would like to see if it is worth the long term investment.
Subaru did a better job with the wilderness and the CVT’s- the non wilderness models even with x mode would cut power from the engine significantly while trying to get over obstacles and it just really wasn’t cut out for any off road work
I am planning on purchasing a 2025 Outback Wilderness and I have a question that hopefully someone can answer. Will the Falken Wildpeak A/T4W 225/65 R17 tires that Ryan put on the 2024 Crosstrek Wilderness also work on the 2025 Outback Wilderness without rubbing? They look like an outstanding all terrain tire.
Great review Ryan !
Let everyone know that Subaru no longer installs metal or aluminum skid plates on Any Subaru vehicle.
Rallitek does offer them, however.
I just checked with corporate and you are correct. No longer available from their supplier and they haven't decided if they're going to replace them. I'll mention that in my next Wilderness video.
Hmmm. I wonder when this started? I just received my 2023 (my 2022 was totaled in a wreck), and I have the aluminum skid plate.
@@BoanergesJim They probably had stock, and are now out.
@@BoanergesJim Well darn those wrecks. Any differences between your 2022 and 2023 model?
The shortage is from them being built in russia. Until they give up in their invasion of ukraine aftermarket is the way to go. Primitive Racing makes a nice set
This channel has HEAVILY influenced our decision to purchase the OBW and we have not been happier. It’s perfect for what we do in the PNW. Even getting us out of a very very sketchy snowy ditch situation on Mt. Hood. Long story short I called roadside assistance only to be told it would be 4+ hours to get to us. That definitely would not work. I thought surely the car could do this, that’s why we bought it. So I hopped in the car, switched to deep snow/mud, floored it and held that to let the car work it out and BAM we were out! All I had to do was trust the car and we were off to continue our adventure. Later that week I upgraded the tires to the Falken Wildpeaks. Now the car is perfect.
That's awesome that you were able to self-recover. 4+ hours is a ridiculously long wait time to get help. I'm not a Subaru guy, but Ryan's reviews of Subaru products on this course have given me the insight that a Subaru quite possibly might end up in the driveway in the near future. My only experience with Subaru was back in the old 80's 4WD GL wagons that had an actual 2 speed transfer case. Another review channel bashes Subaru every chance they get to the point Subaru won't even let them have vehicles to review which is fine, they still can't grasp how these AWD systems work unlike Ryan that lets the system figure it out by keeping constant throttle.
Now you should get a 2 inch suspension lift
@@johnwayne8475 100% agreed
@@wildbill23c I'm guessing your talking about TFL. And sometimes they can give good information, but sometimes Roman can get on my nerves with his childishness. Roman seems so in love with EV that I wonder if he owns stock in some electric company or something. But he hate's Subaru with a Passion to the point I doubt his credibility on anything Subaru related. Sometimes his kid seems more mature than he does.
@@tritchie6272 Exactly the channel I was referring to, and I agree with you. I have nothing against Subaru, but its a really good example of why you have to listen to multiple sources before bashing a brand, or not looking at a brand just because of 1 review. Ryan is doing great with his tests of the Subaru AWD systems, giving me much more confidence in the brand that I would have otherwise overlooked.
This just makes me that much happier being a Outback wilderness owner. Loved my outback.
I have always liked and appreciated your content. You never try to test a vehicle in a place that it is not designed to be. I have watched reviewers put Subarus on Jeep trails high in the Colorado Rockies, then complain that they just did not cut the mustard.
One thing that many reviewers never mention (nor can they demonstrate) is the Subaru's safety rating. I had a 2022 Outback Wilderness. I LOVED that car. I was t-boned in an intersection, rolled and landed upside down. I walked away from the wreck. People who witnessed the accident were amazed that I was able to crawl out of the wreckage.
Yes, there may be some better soft roaders out there, and definitely better hard core trail rigs, but the combination of capability, safety and economy is difficult to match.
Some automotive Journalist are idiots. I watched a woman review a minivan years ago and complain about it's cornering. I think each vehicle should be reviewed for what it is. For example, don't expect a minivan to handle like a sports car, and don't expect a sports car to haul people like a van or crossover. And don't expect either to tow like a truck.
Can never have enough Subaru content.
Agreed!
Amen to that!
Then you watch Donut Media put 2 engines in the same wrx, as well as two new cars 😂 I love watching Subaru capability, but not for long term ownership... Unless the wife says otherwise...
Absolutely!
Love our crosstrek.
Now all we need is a direct competition video of the forester and Outback
I really enjoy these videos seeing how the AWD systems work! I will say what sold me on Subarus AWD system was seeing it in action. I was in Baja and a lady got stuck in an older mid 2000s forester (on street tires). This car was in deep sand and on a steep hill. This terrain was so steep that I wouldn't have attempted the hill with a Tacoma or wrangler, let alone a forester on street tires. We aired down the tires and With a few people pushing to get it moving, it literally climbed up this steep and deep sandy hill. I couldn't believe it! You could see the AWD system sending power to each wheel and it just crawled up. No x mode needed!
I love these stories! I mean, they are completely fake, but entertaining. Subaru's not getting out of something a wrangler couldn’t, facts. Subaru is also way better built, more comfortable, more efficient, and will offer more room. No need to pretend they are crazy off-roaders, but are simply a little better than your average cross over.
@@GeorgeOrwell-tp8dwdepends on what you do to them. My old 15 Crosstrek I had a rear locker, lift, winch, and more. And I could keep up with most jeeps and off roaders.
I have this car, couldn't be happier. It is a snow monster.
The 9 inches of ground clearance is what is drawing me to this vehicle...we occasionally get some decent snow here in southern Idaho, so a vehicle with ground clearance is a must...the AWD system is capable, but in many cases with different vehicles you are let down by the lack of ground clearance.
It’s worth noting impressive chassis rigidity. When the vehicle gets a wheel up in the air like that and he opens the door and gets out it’s a real testament to the strength of the chassis.
Your content is what convinced me to purchase an Outback Wilderness this year. Thanks for the great channel!
This has really turned out to be a great channel. Thx for your hard work!
I agree, Ryan does an awesome job showing off what a vehicle can actually do when given the chance, and isn't afraid to get them dirty but knows when to stop before causing serious damage. He also isn't afraid to give his personal opinion on stuff either which is what a potential buyer needs to hear, rather than the paid advertisers that you see so often saying nothing but its amazing, I wanna know the good and the bad so I know before I go checkout a vehicle.
I really appreciate how you have taken the time to understand the modes and explain them correctly.
There are other review channels I won't mention, who do NOT give the car the time to figure things out, and just give it a fail, or have it in the wrong mode.
I have found that for most situations including most offroad situations, regular mode, is still the best one to be in. I call it Xmode2. Xmode 1 has less spin than 2, and 3 has more. That's pretty much it. I probably would have used Xmode2 on that last slippery hill obstacle, and definitely wouldn't have pressed to brakes to slow down in that soft dirt. That simply makes a hole with a curb in front of it. If you need to slow down offroading an incline, just take foot off gas. Never brake in soft muddy soil. I have to give you a pass because I know you are trying to baby a borrowed vehicle and trying not to damage it. Xmode 2, which is just basically the regular driving mode, is actually the right choice in most situations. All of them are active torque vectoring. They just have different tolerance for spin. 1 wouldnt be great there. 2 allows enough spin but is fairly aggressive in that situation. 3 might allow too much spin because of the grade, and you won't have enough torque on the ground to defeat the grade. That's just from experience. But I might have needed to switch it out if it didn't work, and XM3 was definitely the right end of the spectrum to lean towards if 2 wasn't working.
People make a mistake of turning on Xmode 1 just because they hit the dirt road. But you don't want to drive around in Xmode 1 just because you're in the dirt, because it will put unnecessary attention to braking, and also cut your fuel economy. Use em when you need em.
Regarding the Forester Wilderness, it is a great choice too. Not as much power, but the power is much easier to modulate.
The Wilderness, until you learn how to control the inputs, has a tendency to have not enough power, and then rocket ship into orbit suddenly. Which is not actually that useful of a feeling when trying to be careful near trees and obstacles. You can heel toe the brake and accelerator, or just learn the timing of the dance of the CVT, Turbo, And Logic. I'm almost a part of my vehicle now, I can sense when the power is about to pounce. I wish it was easier to modulate, but I'm still glad that it is so powerful when it arrives.
In most cases you don't need near the power this car has, and would prefer the modulation of the non turbo Forester. I'm just being honest. And I've seen reviews where the Forester BEAT the Outback on some obstacles, because of it's control, where the Outback put too much power down too fast and just burned out instead of moving.
Anyway, great review. I appreciate the fairness. I own this vehicle and love it. I actually forgot this had hill descent mode when in Xmode. I've never used it. I need to try that soon. Databyter😄
Would love an updated Ascent challenge with the 2023 since it has dual x mode-for those of us who still need 3 rows, but want to get off the pavement and into the mud.😊
I love my Outback Wildernes. LIttle gas hungry, but plenty of power and good ground clearance, plus looks much more muscular than regulat outback...which I would never buy lol. Thank you for showing people what this car can do.
Best mileage so far after 7000 miles is 21.8 in mixed driving on mine.
Been waiting for another OBW test from you. Thanks for not forgetting about this amazing car.
This is 1 of 2 videos we shot. Look for a second one in a week or so.
@@drivingsports I have to admit that your testing/reviews of them seem more fair, sensible and better explained than most I've seen. I like that you review crossovers and hope someday you can review AWD vans as well. Someday I may get me a crossover to camp in. At least that's what I'm currently leaning toward doing when finances allow. And while I'm at it I want to address something I've seen used in alot of comment sections as an insult. Grocery getter. Well, I like to eat. And when it's time to get groceries I don't want weather to prevent that. Also. I work nights. I want to get home when its time no matter the weather. Where I live don't consistently get snow like Y'All get, but when it does snow it can sometimes take abit of time for certain roads to get cleared.
Ordered a 2024 OBW, after watching your videos for the 1000th time.
THIS is the #1 channel for Subaru Wilderness model content. Ryan, if at all possible, I'd LOVE to see you do a head to head between the Outback Wilderness and the (hear me out) Ford Maverick Tremor. As I consider my next vehicle selfishly (I have a 2015 Outback), I'd like something modestly more capable, but not something to the level of a 4Runner or Taco (too expensive for my liking and not as practical as a daily driver.) Someone like me who likes the idea of a truck bed looks at the Maverick Tremor and sees it as potential competition to my Subaru Outback wagon for daily driving, but also mildly soft off roading.
I second this...👏👏👏🤜🤛
Agreed! VERY interesetd in the Tremor!
I agree as well. Although if I picked a Maverick I'd just get the Fx4 model...and retain the 4K tow package, the Tremor drops the 4K tow package option, and doesn't really give you much more usefulness. I'm starting to like these Wilderness package Subarus but I'd love that little Maverick truck for so many things.
I agree 💯 % Ryan should rename this channel “Subaru Sports TV”.
The Maverick tremor will be in another league. The base model Maverick AWD will be closer competition. Watch the video Ryan did of the outback wilderness vs. Ford Maverick FX4. On the final obstacle, the Maverick completed the obstacle in normal mode. The Outback couldn’t make it in Normal or xmode 1, but I believe it made it with xmode 2 with some momentum.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring great comment, I've seen that video but forgot about that aspect. In this case then, I'd like to see if the Maverick Tremor CRUSHES the Outback Wilderness. :)
I Officially own a 2023 Subaru Outback Wilderness and i have had it since March of 2023, But I haven't tried all of the features on it, and Im really loving everything about it. The reason why I really got this is because I really want to take it on Trails and where My Wrx can't go i can definitely can try This Wilderness out for sure. I was Skeptic at first but I love it even better now.
glad to see you point out more specifics on how xmode works, especially reg dirt/snow, too many reviews for these cars have popped up the last year where as soon as wheel spin happens people let off the throttle and try again. you just gotta give it the beans!
HAHA, I've caught that as well in every other tester video, and one particular channel comes to mind with any AWD vehicle they test as soon as a wheel slips they stop and act as if the vehicle is a piece of crap rather than they're lack of brains is the problem.
Subaru just keeps on getting better, wish they'd offer a little truck again like the Subaru Baja or something similar....right now I'm kind of looking towards the Maverick, but the same time the growing want to get into a Subaru for the first time since well...the old 80's GL 4WD Wagon era LOL.
Picking up mine (in the same color) tomorrow!! 😊
How is your ownership experience so far?
I’d love to get that wilderness edition…..wayyyy out of my price range. Definitely a very well engineered vehicle for just about anything you want to do
Since Subarus retain their value so well, and the company's "guaranteed trade-in" bit is one of the most generous such programs out there, a way to get into an OBW is to start with, say, a Premium, especially if you can get a low or 0% APR on financing, pay it down to less than $10k owed, then trade it in and get enough to pay it off and still have enough left over to put an even bigger down payment on the OBW than you did on the Premium. You could very well end up with payments about the same as the Premium (or, at the very least, still within manageable territory), especially depending on what interest rates are doing at that point. It's how I managed to step up to the '24 OBW from the '20 Premium after just shy of three years of payments. And that's with a *higher* interest rate on the OBW than I had on the Premium.
Absolutely love watching you test subarus !!
I used to have a Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited. We vacationed in Colorado going down forest roads while everyone else was using Jeeps. We had no problems with it and it will get you to 98% of the places you want to be at.
I’m in the process of getting my obw hope to pick it up Tuesday, I don’t expect it to do jeep wrangler stuff. This looks great to me and most of us won’t be stopping to talk while trying to get up a hill. Thanks for the vids
Another excellent video, aimed at the non-pro who may want to occasionally check out wilderness trails. Itsa 10! Good job, Ryan, again and again and again!
Awesome video, I've had my Wilderness for 2 years and you really helped me differentiate the 2 X-Modes.
Just picked one up last night. Can't wait to take it out to the mountain.
I'd love to see this again with actual off road tires, I have a feeling that would change things greatly.
Having the right tires means everything!
Awesome review showcasing all the functionality of the OBW
I have this car, too. In the cluster over the large infotainment screen, you can modify the content that shows in JUST the top portion of the screen. One choice is ... the percentage of up/ down grade as a display. Doesn't show the gauge with percentage of front/ back AWD, but does show the up/ down of the gradient the car is at. I can't quite remember if you can have the front camera on PLUS this feature but I THINK it can show both. I'll check now that the question arises. An example of when you needed it in this video is at 11:18. You turn on the front camera and so you turn off the vehicle stats. But ... one portion of the infotainment screen at the very TOP is still visible. THAT PORTION can be changed and show the percentage gradient while the camera is on.
But then you can't have the XMode toggles accessible. Since Mode 1 shuts off at speeds over 25, we need to keep an eye on it to confirm it's on. But outside of that, very good point.
When the front camera is activated, the top portion of the screen always displays the X-mode buttons, regardless of what you have it set to otherwise. I normally have the angle up top as well, I just use the front camera button as a shortcut to pull those buttons up without having to scroll over.
Got my OBW this summer. Cannot wait for snow here to test. Sr has been very good so far. Zero complaints. Swiss Army knife and won’t cost arm leg to fix if when something goes wrong. Tires too are not over the too expensive to replace compared to other suvs I’ve owned like an X5.
I've had my OBW for a year and I live in eastern Canada. We get snow. The stock tires are nowhere as good in snow as the Blizzaks I put on my previous Forester, but they're acceptable for someone like me. I'm retired and don't have to be anywhere at any particular time, so if it's really bad, I stay home.
Excellent review as always. I love my Outback Wilderness. Does everything I need it to do.
My gripes are the same as here. The information center is overly complicated and slow responding. Also glitches out occasionally. I wish the heated seat and AC/heat controls were knobs and switch’s and not within the system.
Subaru, you almost hit an A+.
Hi Ryan, thanks to your video I am going to replace my Outback 3.6R Limited with the Wilderness - you are the best Man, thanks for your great review!!
This channel definitely influenced my decision to buy Subaru!
I love your videos thank you for all your hard work I really do believe you should have way more followers
I love watching Subaru’s going off road
You produce excellent reviews. I really trust your videos and your opinion when I’m looking at buying a new vehicle. Keep up the good work.
Love your reviews ❤️
Me to lol
I just traded my 2019 Charger for a 2023 Subaru Limited XT last month, and I love how it handles. My only issue is the laggy infotainment system.
Yeah they’re awful. I hate everything crammed in the infotainment.
@@RollerCoasterLineProductions 3 out of 4 auto infotainment systems suffer the same complaints, no matter how expensive the vehicle. And I agree with you.
I love your videos! My OBW has been modified (lift, tires, skidplates, etc.), and I'm in WA, too. Im out every weekend, but I wish I could visit some of your trails!
I put this car through the ringer all across Canada, I never got stuck once, and I was on the top of BC mountains passing jacked up Jeeps
That's great to hear. I think these Subarus are far more capable than many give them credit for, especially when you are on light trails and backroads where these cars were really designed to drive on.
Let’s not get too carried away here. No one actually believes these are as capable as 4runners, broncos, Wranglers I hope. That’s not what this competes with.
The chickens are so cute!
Ryan, I am a huge fan! I have a 2022 Outback Wilderness in Crystal White. Now I seriously doubt that colour has anything to do with it, but I found that the AWD system learns, as strange as that seems. First time in deep snow @ 1,700 kms (1,000 miles) it didn’t seem nearly as sure footed as it does now, 14,000kms (8,700miles). It’s almost as if the system has to learn. I would be interested to see if a higher mileage Outback Wilderness would do better on the course or whether I am just imagining things.
First thing I did was get rid of those tires and got some wildpeak at3 and couldn't be happier
Love love love Subaru!!! 4:28
That mud hill turned those tires into slicks pretty quickly. 😏
I want to see an Acura RDX, Audi Q5, Benz GLB and/or BMW X3 do this course to compare luxury AWD
Great video. Thanks for breaking it down.
Extremely impressive vehicle. Even more capable with less effort than alot of the full size SUV's
can t explane how good these series are. i dig all grid and there s nothing better then this.and SUBARU is best what ever they say...
No I'm gonna have to go out and buy 1! And put the locker installed in the rear!
I love my ob wilderness, but the first thing I did to it was upgrade the tires, the ones that come stock aren't the greatest a/t tire. Took it offroading the day I got it to a trail I do all the time in my 2018 crosstrek, and failed on obstacles I've never had issues on. Replaced the tires the next day to the 245/65/r15 toyo open country AT3s and went back to the same trail and smashed it.
Subaru symmetrical all wheel drive is great for maintaining traction through difficult and slippery conditions such as chickens.
I think Subaru hired you. If so, they did a good job. You are the best Subaru reviewer in the world. Not joking
Lol. They didn't hire me, but they do provide a vehicle whenever I request one. Other car makers have the opportunity, but aren't as eager.
You well deserved that. Who knows, maybe they will consider soon. Again the best Subaru test videos is yours. I bought Subaru Forester thanks to your detailed, well thought test videos 👏
Love my OBW!
Alway surprised how well the subie does with X mode on, continues to impress, though if you don’t have it ‘on’ the ‘normal’ mode doesn’t look like it works very well at all. Great video!
I got the 2020 Premium in September of 2020, and I immediately started hoping for a decent snow event that winter to really test it out. While I waited for the seasons to pass the rest of the year, I put some Falken Wildpeak AT Trail tires on it. Now, the thing about living in the south is that significant snow is an exceedingly rare occurrence, and even then, it might amount to no more than 4-6 inches. But, that winter, we ended up with not one, but two 10" snowstorms one day apart with no melt-off in between.
I took my Premium with its 8.7" of ground clearance everywhere, including up the steepest streets we have in my city (and they can get *very* steep). I would even come to a complete stop on them, just to see if it could take off again. It made it up every single 10" or deeper snow-covered hill I tried, and I didn't once have to turn on X-mode (and it only had the single snow/dirt option if I would have, being just the Premium trim).
All that's to say that, with some decent tires, X-mode is likely not even needed in the vast majority of adverse driving conditions in which Outback owners might find themselves.
Now that I have an OBW with even more ground clearance and a much more powerful engine, I have no doubts about how well it will perform in any conditions I might ever encounter. Driving the Premium in all that snow was effortless and drama-free. I'd never had so much fun in such weather.
I am waiting for the 2024 Toyota 4runner redesigned for my first new suv
Ryan, just love your AWD Subie content. Given how your testing locations and conditions have evolved over time, I'd love to see how well a stock 2.5L NA current Outback would perform on the Chicken run, Logging Road Rock test, and Muddy Hill climb test. I suspect it won't pass the Muddy Hill due to stock tyres and insufficient power/weight ratio, but it would still be great fun to watch (and not to diss the 2.5L Outback, I have the Australian 2022 model !).
I really like your off road tests. I cross shopped the OBW and the Bronco Sport Badlands, after previously owning two Subaru's and ended up ordering the BS for it's better approach and departure angles plus I hated the touch screen on the OBW. I'd like to see The Bronco Sport Badlands on this course.
We’ve been asking for one, but Ford hasn’t shipped it up yet.
You made a good choice R West. I’d say the Bronco Sports badlands is the most capable AWD vehicle in 2022, dethroning the iVTM4 Hondas. Glad Ford and Honda are competing for the top spot, but it’s only ford that offers something in the compact segment that’s capable.
@@drivingsports because Ford is scared it will fall apart
Can't wait to see Honda Pilot Trailsport doing this test as its a direct competitor. Trailsport vs Wilderness 🔥
Subie has it easy with me: my short list of two is the Forester Wilderness...and the Outback Wilderness. My only reason to wait to pull the trigger on a deal, at this moment, is that Forester hybrid that's just around the corner. If Subie offers a hybrid Forester Wilderness, shut up and take my money.
There's pros and cons to both the Outback and the Forester. Thing is: the lots are so small at the moment that you can't really go for a test drive with both of them right now. I lean towards the Forester, but since i'm living on the country where there's lots of two-lanes highways, I need passing power. So maybe the Forester ain't what i'm looking for.
But then again, my dear German Shepherd will probably be more comfortable in the Forester. So i'm still hesitating.
Ryan, is that small boxer in the Forester enough when you need to make a quick pass or should I really go for the turbo engine in the Outback?
Would really like to see Forester/outback Limited
OK team! Welcome to the weekend!!!! This is the drinking game video of the week!! Each time he gets out of the car, take a shot and keep count. The first couple to submit the correct answer wins the weekly pot! Best of luck!!
Love your reviews on Subarus! By any chance you will be making more content on the Subaru Ascent? Would love to see if the Ascent can go through your courses
Chicken 🐔 Power! *(no chickens were harmed during(or after)filming.) 🤣
I would love to see the wilderness in deep snow x mode on a snow handling course!
We did that too. New video isn a week or so.
Random comment! I would love to see you test out a BMW X3 M40i on some of these off road trails -- based on the few videos that are out there on youtube it seems like the x3's brake vectoring is actually pretty good at getting power to the right places so I'm curious to see how it does compared to these dedicated soft roaders.
Great video!!! You are a PRO 👍👍👍
Excellent review on this car crossover!
Just one problem ! 😕 You got the wrong tires on the car for off reading . You need Goodyear Altra Grips it's a 4x4 truck tread on a car snow tire that you can have on Year around . Or you can try Goodyear Altra Grip Ice . They are directional tires meaning the tread on all 4 tires are in the same direction . I use to work for Goodyear I would know .
My crosstrek was in the shop, the dealer loaned me a turbo outback, it wasn’t a wilderness. Those things RIP
Pretty good most will never take it this far but good to know it can get you in and out of trouble. Better tires might help
Ryan, Do the burning tire and brake pad particulates add to or detract from the flavor of the free range eggs? 😉
Would love to see a Rav4 adventure test on this course!
We're getting the RAV4 TRD OR to re-test on this course in January.
@@drivingsports nice!
I use hill decent on my icy dirt roads roads all winter. It works good with proper tires. The oem tires on the touring xt were a challenge on ice. Really wish it could fit chains like my truck for bad ice.
Do you notice wheel lockup with the hill decent control going downhill on the snow/ice?
@@wildbill23c nope but I don't have oem tires.
@@Wrang15 Probably makes a difference for sure. What tires are you running?
@@wildbill23c X ice Snow now for winter. Open Country A/T III out side of snow season.
Such a miss not to have a heated wheel and the HK audio.
Meanwhile even the base model has the heated steering wheel in Canada. Does USA not have places where it gets cold ;)
Yep that's why I got a Touring xt and just plan to add parts.
I got the forester wilderness because it’s built in Japan
Great review but when are you going to review a 2022-23 non-wilderness/Onyx outback? Or did I miss it
My only criticism of this trim is that they didn’t offer it with the Harmon Kardon audio package - even as an option.
The choice of tire is paramount to a given terrain. A mud tire gives the best off-road traction but has terrible longevity on-road and usually is loud from the large spacing between the tread blocks.
finally Washington finest..
lexus, subaru, toyota.
need more Hondas!!!!!
January!
Thanks Ryan for showing what these Subarus can actually do, unlike another review channel that can't figure it out, you do it right and give the AWD systems time to do their job. Subaru really should hand you their fleet of different vehicles for a full on in depth comparison with every model they have. Maybe a WRX in the future? Although I don't think it would do your course do to ground clearance issues, but a snow course would be interesting with a WRX. The WRX seems more like a rally type car/street car...but the Outback and Forrester models would be something I'd certainly consider. The wilderness models is what I'd choose, just gotta decide betweeen the Outback or Forrester HAHA!!
Would be great if Subaru would put a limited slip or selectable locker in the Wilderness models....maybe give them a hint....I bet the car would be almost unstoppable with a locker in many cases.
I'm looking at something along the size of what the Toyota Highlander is, would that be a Forrester or Outback?
Trust me, we give them all sorts of feedback. :) The Highlander would be comparable to the Ascent.
@@drivingsports HAHA, I would hope you would give them feedback, its helpful to them I'm sure to hear from people like you who do real world testing.
Thank you for the vehicle comparison I'll checkout the Ascent at some point, but would really enjoy the Outback or Forrester with the Wilderness package for sure. The added ground clearance I think would be a huge plus in snow country.
Thanks again for all your great honest reviews in places that most people would actually take their vehicles.
I'll take a mechanical locking differential if available even if I have to push/ move a lever.
Like a rock star... That could not get over the rock lol
Love the video !
thank you for always making great content
I would love to see the Subaru Crosstrek Sport VS the Outback Wilderness off road capability ...
It’s be cool to see the RAV4 Hybrid on this course!
We've finally gotten these in Australia. Placed an order as soon as pricing was announced, supposed to be here in a months time. Watching these videos is helping me get through the waiting game. I notice that you never air down the tyres at all, is that to keep it a level game or just to showcase the X-mode tech working without any external assistance?
I got X mode in my pickup, it's called 4 LOW, Rear diff lock! 😅
Hope Honda gives you the new Honda Pilot Trailsport. Makes me excited for a new Passport Trailsport
We’re filming one in January.
@@drivingsports I'll be interested to see that. The Honda has actual clutch packs to redirect power, not just wheel braking like the Subaru, which is theoretically better. But I always wonder whether or not it works better in the field. Will there be obstacles that the Honda can handle that an OB Wilderness can't manage? It would make for an interesting comparison.
I'd love to see how the Ford Explorer Timberline does on your course along with other off road leaning SUVs.
I remember you didn't seem fond of the Timberline during your last review but I have one and I absolutely love it.
I actually really loved the Timberline. It was a bummer we got it at such a tough time of year for snow.
Ford is absolute junk, if u value your hard earned money stay away from Ford all together
Can you do this exact course in a Forester Sport or Premium/Touring to see how it goes!
I really want to see subaru produce a version to truly compete with the 4runner and other SUVs in the off-road category so a true modified off-road suspension and a slightly better approach and departure angles and lower gearing for less momentum driving.
Does the Outback Wilderness got potential to last for atleast 10 years?? I know it is not Toyota level but still would like to see if it is worth the long term investment.
Subaru did a better job with the wilderness and the CVT’s- the non wilderness models even with x mode would cut power from the engine significantly while trying to get over obstacles and it just really wasn’t cut out for any off road work
I am planning on purchasing a 2025 Outback Wilderness and I have a question that hopefully someone can answer. Will the Falken Wildpeak A/T4W 225/65 R17 tires that Ryan put on the 2024 Crosstrek Wilderness also work on the 2025 Outback Wilderness without rubbing? They look like an outstanding all terrain tire.
the outback wilderness is perfect for me. i wanted bougie but capable. the toyotas just didnt cut it.
Great Subaru test as always. Any chances of a Land Rover Discovery Sport off road test??
That downhill assist seemed like it never kicked in. That was pretty fast going down
I would love to see you do more with the ascent.
Great. Try to imagine how incredible good will be that car with lockers on both axles ...
Love to see Gig Harbor on the map :)