The I Love Lucy Cast Hated Him More Than Anyone
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
- What are your thoughts on William Frawley's impact on “I Love Lucy”? How do you perceive his relationship with his co-stars? Do you think the contentious on-set relationships contributed to the on-screen magic?
▬Contents of this video▬
00:00 - Intro
00:21 - William Frawley: A Quintessential Cast Member
03:02 - Vance Couldn’t Stand Frawley
05:04 - Strange Demands and Volatile Behavior
06:28 - Frawley Found Some Dignity After “Lucy”
08:07 - Outro
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Peel back the curtains and step onto the set of one of America's most beloved sitcoms, "I Love Lucy". In this video, we explore a lesser-known side of the classic show - the behind-the-scenes tensions and the personalities that drove them. While "I Love Lucy" offered an idyllic portrayal of 1950s America on-screen, the off-screen dynamics were far from perfect.
Our spotlight shines on William Frawley, the talented actor behind the gruff yet lovable character, Fred Mertz. Notorious for his difficult behavior and unreasonable demands, Frawley's interactions with his fellow cast members were often tense, marked by conflict, and overshadowed by his struggles with alcoholism. Despite these challenges, Frawley's performance remains an integral part of the enduring charm of "I Love Lucy."
Join us as we delve deep into Frawley's contentious relationships, his impact on the show, and how he was viewed by his fellow cast members. Discover how the off-screen drama contributed to the on-screen magic and the legacy of this iconic series. After discussing Frawley’s time on I Love Lucy, we’ll then move on to addressing how the actor managed to regain the dignity that he felt he had lost while appearing on that series in his follow-up roles. If you’re a fan of Frawley and I Love Lucy, this is one video that you won’t want to miss!
The I Love Lucy Cast Hated Him More Than Anyone 
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William Frawley was an excellent actor. There was no bigger cheerleader for him on the set of "I Love Lucy" than the person of Lucille Ball herself. She always thought Frawley should've won some of those Outstanding Supporting Actor Emmys he was nominated for. He was dropped from "My Three Sons" after the 5th season due to the studio's insurance company that was unable to further insure him due to medical reasons. Frawley played his character flawlessly, one who was still a bit grumpy, yet with a kind and sensitive child-like heart on the show. Fred MacMurray loved him. Frawley passed away just five days after his 79th birthday, on March 3, 1966. He had gone to see a movie and, after walking out of the theater walking down the sidewalk, he fell to ground, suffering a fatal heart attack. He is sorely missed.
Beautiful words, thank you for your message for William! We're moved 💗💗
I read that William was drunk and fell down a full flight of steps at the Roosevelt Hotel in Hollywood.
@@j.vi-geant6784 False. Totally untrue.
He looks & asks just like my dad & the mouth of Archie bunker's true 💯👩🤣😂😀
@j.vi-geant6784 He had a thing with the bottle. William Frawley was that cantankerous old landlord.
22 years her senior?! That sounds like a LEGIT complaint!
It’s a ironic that William Frawley and Vivian Vance couldn’t stand each other in real life, but yet had the best on screen chemistry together.
I never saw that at all. Watch any time they have to hug or act affectionate - or heaven forbid, even KISS. It is strained and awkward. She can't stand the sight of him and not in a "comic" way, it was for real.
@@lisalu910 -- There can be no denying the tensions between them, but it was friction triggered by personality clashes, period. The "strained and awkward" swings you saw on TV were scripted storylines persuasively delivered by two excellent actors. Ms Vance was said to be put off more by Frawley's well deserved reputation as a "drinker" who could be difficult on the set than by any off-color behavior on the "Lucy" show. For his part, Frawley saw the well accomplished Vivian as aloof and self absorbed. Regardless, rumors of disruptive clashes between the two were greatly exaggerated. Despite not liking each other, they worked well together. They were both consumate professionals.
Looked like they were really married
My favorite was Dezi Arnez, loved when he shouted in Spanish. Heard another story that when Frawley died Vance popped a bottle of Champagne in a restaurant. Now that was some dislike.
I read that Vivian Vance was out with friends at a restaurant and when she received word that William Brawley had died, said " Champagne for everybody!"
We're a big fan of Desi too! Thanks for sharing. Which episode appealed to you the most?
@@FactsVerse I think one of my favorites is when Lucy was in the club to tell Ricky she was pregnant and he was going around singing to Ladies who he thought was pregnant. Sweet moment. 👍
Yes, I knew that Frawley and Vance hated each other, but I thought he got along with the rest of the cast. I liked Frawley. On I Love Lucy and My Three Sons. RIP William Frawley, you are missed!!
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Regarding William Frawley's relationships with the rest of the cast members of "I Love Lucy", when on camera, he came across like a trooper. As an actress friend of mine once said, "That's why they call it "ACTING!"
The story I read was that when William Frawley was cast as Fred, Desi told him that he had to remain sober while working, which he did. While Lucy was the comedy genius, it was Desi who ran Desilu until they divorced when Lucy became the business head of the company.
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I remember hearing that Desi Arnaz was warned that Frawley had a drinking problem. As the above comment says, they talked it over and Arnaz said there was never any problem. ❤
@@judycater2832 He told Frawley he'd hire him under this condition: First time he couldn't do his job, Desi would work around him for that day. A second time, he'd try to manage again. But three times meant he was out. Frawley agreed to this and never used any of the strikes Desi offered him to show that he could be trusted.
I remember growing up and sitting with my mom and watching I Love Lucy.❤️ I'm an avid fan to this day. I watch the reruns and have all the DVD's. I used to attend all the conventions In Burbank, CA. I met the producers and writers, Teensy and Weensy, I sat and talked with her son Desi Jr. and daughter Lucy. It was so awesome and amazing!
How could anyone not know, since it was the first thing mentioned every time the subject of the show came up.
I heard a story that the network had once proposed a new series starring Vance and Frawley. SERIOUS money was on the table for both actors! But Vivian Vance would NOT have any part in another series with Frawley. She torpedoed that idea and sent it straight to the bottom! Frawley (supposedly) really needed the money and never forgave Vance for "ruining" his big chance.
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I've known of the horrible relationship of Frawley and Vance from stories such as indicated in this video.
Never did I see any sign of the problems with Frawley on screen.
Desi took out a full page in the "New York Times" upon Frawley's passing,
"Farewell, my best friend." (Maybe it was in Spanish as the video states.)
My favorite was Vivian Vance. She was hilarious.
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Tim once again your "Facts" are skewed.
Vivian Vance, and no other cast member, complained about not getting along with William Frawley.
Both Lucy and Dezi had the upmost respect for the veteran actor, and always talked highly of him.
Would you like some references Tim?
Remember Tim, this is "Facts Verse " and not "Sensation Verse"
Truth👆🏻 Yes, that’s the way I heard it too
I wonder sometimes if "facts" are pulled out of the thin air, true or not, just as a filler to make the video reach it's max length time. 😊 Some of these "wrong facts", even a kid could find out are wrong by just Googling or using some other search engine. I USE to like hearing about these actors but the way this channel is run, it just become a game now to see how many facts are used to confuse us and I'm thinking it could be intentionally. 😆 🤣
Yes I have always heard the only one Frawley had problems with was with Ms. Vance.
The video was well done. Vivian Vance and William Frawley were great together. What ashame they could not get along in real life. On tv they were a match made in comedy heaven.
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Frawley and Vance hated so much that both of them refused to participate in their own show
Sad but true. Be safe and have a great day ahead ❤❤
No, it was Vance that didn't want to do it. Frawley was game to it.
Yes i knew about William and Vivan not liking each other but Fred Mertz will always be my favorite character besides Ricky Ricardo.
Fun stuff, thanks for sharing! Which episode of the show appealed to you the most?
@@FactsVerse Toughie...Lucy pregnant with Little Ricky and the Superman episode
It wasn't a very good alcoholic if he never showed up drunk.
Richard Burton never showed up sober.
A brilliant comedy, with brilliant actors, that is still hilarious 70 years on! I always did love Lucy!
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@@FactsVerse oh, it has to be Vitameatavegamin!!
Ya know, it’s funny. Watching this show as a kid, I never consciously noticed the age gap between frawley and the rest of the cast. That said, old man brought a lot of energy to the show!
It still makes no sense that they could work all that time if they had dislike for each other i could not even do dancing numbers with other members i did not like. But all the cast is dead now so we can't get the real facts on the so called fued. I would not take pictures with that person either that is really so strange to me. I did love the show so much though.
Wonderfully explained....
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Bill Frawley was well liked and got along with Desi and Lucy and the staff so I don't know what you are talking about with the cast hating him. Frawley honored his contract to the project, never using any of the strikes Desi offered him in case there was trouble. He may not have gotten along with Vance, but she started it to begin with. Frawley should've gotten a Supporting Actor Emmy at least once in his career, but they screw up so much to begin with.
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@@FactsVerse That's a tough call but my favorite episode is not from "I Love Lucy" itself but from "The Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour", 'The Celebrity Next Door', with guest star, Tallulah Bankhead.
Thank you Miss,Ball for the laughter.
I liked him and I think without him. The show would not have been the same. I wish they could have made up and William and Vivian made that other series. I think it would have been pretty good.
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I enjoyed William Frawley on I Love Lucy and My Three Sons. I can't imagine anyone else in the role of Fred on I Love Lucy.
His comedy talent was underrated
Frankly was a good actor 🙏🙏❤❤❤rest in peace ❤❤❤
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I called the I Love Lucy cast The Fabulous Four - they all contributed to make that series the greatest - most well known and best loved sitcom ever. Frawley and Vance did not get along but they still were marvelous together on the show.
Lucy was my favorite 😮
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I always liked Vivian Vance. Even as a kid, I thought she was cute. And now, at 62, I still think she was cute. Lucy Ball was cute as well. Mr Frawley was comical. Ricky was in love with himself 'Nuff said . Have a blessed day everyone
I've worked for alcoholics, they can be very professional and good matured at times, but their addiction leads to mood swings, volatile personalities. They are always thirsty, frustrated and thinking about drinking. Good video.
When my parents arrived in new York from Puerto Rico in the mid 50's I "l love Lucy" was the 1st show they loved to watch, & myself & 6 siblings also enjoyed watching growing up.. yes I had read throughout the years about William frawley & Vivian Vance not getting along behind the scenes but what matters is what they delivered on camera. Besides I'm sure many of us have had bad relationship's at work at one time or another.
I never heard before that the whole cast disliked Frawley. Only Vance.
William Frawley was in the movie miracle on 34 street and it was in theaters year 1947.
Bill was a fine actor. I liked his Bub role on M 3 Sons. Drinking and brash manners seemed to be his biggest obstacles. His health eventually crumbled and he passed on.
I never heard or read that Lucille Ball or Desi Arnaz dislike Bill Frawley in fact, just the opposite. Vance and Frawley did not get along because Vance insulted him right in the beginning and he retaliated. Their dislike remained throughout the series.
Nice video.
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William Frawley was my favorite actor. He was great playing the role of the cantankerous, miserly landlord. Saw him on Miracle on 34th Street, movies with W.C. Fields, Abbott & Costello, John Wayne.
That's just Hollywood for you "I can work with you, but I don't have to like you!" Of course as a kid watching "I Love Lucy" I've always thought of the 4 cast members as one BIG family! But "OH BOY!" When the cameras stoped rolling that's when the REAL DRAMA starts! But I did know that William Frawley was disliked but the man was a GREAT ACTOR!! Who loved to perform and sometimes that's all that matters RIP William 🌹🙏❤ Thanks Facts Verse👍🌹❤
Gratitude was missing on the show . Its the spice of life . Learn from this .
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It’s Frawley’s reactions to Lucy’s antics that often get the biggest laughs on the shows.
Willian Frawley was beloved by Barry Livingston who worked with him on My Three Sons. Barry thought he was funny and gruff but ultimately good hearted.
The only one that hated him was Vivian Vance. He was very close with Desi Arnaz. Lucille Ball greatly respected his talent. The headline here is misleading .
Very misleading!
@@hardlines4 When William Frawley died Desi Arnaz took out a full page add in the LA Times to honor his friend.
That's the truth of the matter.
@@gregoryphillips3969 Exactly! Frawley was also recognized on the show This Is Your Life Lucy praised him immensely
I watched everything that had to do with Miss Ball. Was born in 43. 80 now.
I loved Lucy she was brilliant, funny and ver intelligent. She was very beautiful! I watched her show all the time. Desi was a good actor very handsome . Ethel was very good also! Fred I really didn’t like him much and now I know why I may have felt that way about him.
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I Love Lucy when I was a little girl I used to watch that all the time when I used to come on CBS
It is a shame that he had a bad temper and was hypersensitive to criticism. Everything in the video was not a surprise to me, as I have heard about his reputation throughout the years. He was an amazing actor with a lot of skill and depth, but his drinking problem and his temper followed him throughout his life. It is very sad that he has been gone now 57 years and his legendary drinking and bad temper still follows his reputation all these years. I always tell my family and friends if you want people to speak well about you when you pass, behave yourself during the time that you have.
His pettiness to other actors that he felt did him wrong was well known in Hollywood. It didn't help that his co-star Vivian Vance had an ego, a temper as well, and didn't have a shut off valve with her mouth. Her disrespect for William Frawley was legendary. This is a woman by reputation of her 4 husbands she would not stop nagging them and trying to control them. 😮
Here's a bit of trivia that a lot of people don't know, when he ended up getting sick while he was on My Three Sons and they had to replace him with William Demarest. Frawley and Demarest did not get along. It was reported that "William Frawley really enjoyed working on the show and did not want to leave. To make matters worse, he was replaced by William Demarest, whom he hated in real life."
William Frawley was a wonderful actor with human flaws. He is still loved and missed by his fans
RIP: William Clement Frawley, February 26, 1887 - March 3, 1966, age 79 ✝️
Knew they did not like each other
Actually it was only Vivian Vance that could not stand Frawley because of his drinking and the fact that while she was actually younger than Lucy, they had her character as a a frumpy ex-vaudevillian married to her stage partner, a grumpy old man several years her senior in real life
.But the bigger issue was his drinking and in that Vance was not alone.
Desi actually saved his job by telling Frawley of Vance's complaints and the fact that she was thinking about leavinng the show if something wasn't done about Frawley. Desi told him that he would only be allowed to continue on the show if he did not quit coming to the show drunk and no alcohol on the set.
It's almost impossible to pick a favorite on the show as all four of them portrayed their characters so flawlessly adding to the wackiness of Lucy. They also had some great guest stars like Hans Conreid, Tennesee Ernie Ford, John Wayne, Richard Widmark, Danny Thomas, Barbra Eden, Ernie Kovacs, Wayne Newton, and of course who could forget the "mirror scene" with Harpo Marx!
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@@FactsVerse As far as episodes there were so many to choose from
1. Ethel and Lucy in the chocolate factory
2. Vitameatagegimin commercial
3. Lucy stomping grapes and the lady with
her.
4. Lucy and the large loaf of bread
5. Lucy and Harpo Marx*
6. Desi dressed as a witch doctor seeing
his child for the first time at the hospital
7. The episodes with Tennessee Ernie Ford
8. Superman comes for Lil Ricky's birthday
9. Lucy is airlifted to her cruise ship
10.Lucy and Ethel buy a hat shop
Of all of the classics that I remember, Lucy and Harpo was the most incredible and enjoyable of them all.
The woman bought champagne or wine for the whole restaurant she was in .
The Mertz' bickering, based on their off-stage fights, helped the characters.
Bill Frawley had a longer life than any of the rest of them! Check him out in the the Lemon Drop Kid or Going My Way.
I'm 70. His "Bub" from My three sons endured with me. So there's that.
Repeating everything twice is lazy editing..
I was able to watch every spin off.
FRAWLEY BLOWS 😂❤😂
Frawley also only read what he had to do so he usually didn't know what the story was about. So sometimes he wouldn't get jokes or says lines the wrong way and they'd have to explain it to him. But it was a small price to pay to using a great guy.
I will always love FRED♥️
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Ricky loved him, and they became very good friends. Lucy liked him, l,2too. It was on Vivian that didn't care for him, but that's it.
Yes I knew.
Yeah I knew that they hated each other so much sometimes cuz they never got a loan they never got along then that you was always arguing but I love I love Lucy I used to watch that every day when I was a little girl when came out
Sounds like Vance was the antagonist, not Frawley, he was just defending his self. I liked him on Lucy and my 3 sons, and his movies.
The only lines in the show that produced belly laughs for me came from Frawley no by by.
All of the cast.
You're a true fan but wait, which episode appealed to you the most?
Fred & Ethel were completely awesome in 'I Love Lucy'. Destroying each other character in the show, and constantly creating verbal arguments strikes up between them, & cutting each other up big time with nasty jokes........wild crazy friction between the two of them always. Fred was so completely racist in so many ways . . . . . . . . . . They all played great parts in the show. Lucy and Desi were also excellent actors.
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.... "racist" ???
"Racist?" Can you document that? Frawley may have had his share of flaws, but I've never heard him called a racist.
Only Vivian Vance, and I don’t know that she hated him they just didn’t get along, he was close to Desi and Lucy. Desi paid for his funeral.
I loved William Frawley I thought he was a great actor on I love Lucy. I never knew everyone hated him thats so sad.I loved Fred & Ethel. I knew Ethel didnt get along with fred but never knew anyone else who didnt like him.
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I had read Desi would step in and vouch for him when others wanted him out of the show and got him better pay.
Cant say I blame Frawley for his tense relationship with Vance on set. If your where insult by your costar over you age, you'd wouldn't like them either.
William frawley …..Good all freed!!!!
William Frawley' was funny on the lucy
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I watched everything to do to Miss Lucy.
they hated him more than HITLER ? Dude, that's cold.
I would be mad if i was paired with an old guy too. Ethel was always too beautiful for fred
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I ❤️ LUCY is funny 😁 😂
&, good 🎉🎉🎉
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But the
Lucy SHO IS
even better
Lucille Ball
&, VIVEN VANCE
😂😂
MY SID HURTS
When they get together ❤️
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Facts Verse you make many mistakes! Desi unbelievably knew his lines on one reading not Bill. The latter frequently asked the writers to cut his lines to as few as possible and that is the reason he probably knew his script so well!
He was not the first choice as Fred Mertz. Lucy wanted her old radio friend Gale Gordon.
Desi had a wonderful relationship with Bill. As well Lucy at least had no problems with him. Why would she?
It was Vivian and Bill who hated each other!
Gale Gordon would have been a great choice, to this day I wonder how the show would have been without fat, old Bill Frawley playing the part.
@@lisalu910No! No! No! In retrospect we would never have known the character we(I) love to hate Fred Mertz! Fate chose the right Fred Frawley. Far better was my favorite loveable Ethel Mertz(Vivian Vance) over Barbara Pepper(drinking problem) Lucille Ball's choice!
She probably didn't like him because she probably was looking at it like I'm married to a man that could be my follower that's old enough to be my father and that's probably why they never got a long
Oh well ego's are that ego's..hmmmm then how did he come to work so great...if his attitude got in the way..statement dont make sense..
Maybe he didn'tlike loud, redhead trans women...
Old news! To anyone over 55
I liked anyone who wasn’t Lucy. I did not like her.
Ethel was the only member of that cast that actually had a problem with Frawley.. Lucy and Ricky owned and ran EVERYthing about that show... If he was that bad, he'd have gotten the boot.... So the headline for this vid is a misleading LIE....
VIVIAN VANCE DETESTED WILLIAM FRAWLEY! She always she should be on the stage doing great stage productions not realizing she was doing great work. EVERYBODY LOVED HER. THERE WAS LATER I LOVE LUCY EPISODE. IT WAS FANTASY AND FRED AND ETHEL PLAYED A 2 HEADED DRAGON SHE SAID HE WAS PASSING GAS IN THE COSTUME THAT MADE HER VOMIT. THAT WAS THE END.
why take the trouble to talk about hate?
Confusing and fucked up
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Keep it up. The more derogatory stories that get created the closer you tabloid trashers are to getting "I Love Lucy" either banned or censored to the general public. Oh! Don't forget they smoked too. Get off the gossip train.
his stuff is redundant and zzzzzzzzzzzz
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The Livingston boys loved him.