Having done a crazy amount of research when buying my e-bike, I’ve come to the realization that 80-90% of e-bike’s are questionable, cheap Chinese drop ships. The only thing I’m concerned with is the quality of workmanship that’s in building the battery and BMS and its durability to the environment. And that’s something you can’t see with your naked eye and that gets people scared. I wish every e-bike battery is UL approved but that’s an expensive stamp to obtain and there’s no way that, even quality Chinese manufacturers, could obtain.
The problem is that there is that to gain UL certification, the battery or device must be submitted to expensive and costly testing. Once the device is approved, it is approved for that design. Any modifications require resubmittal and testing. Reputable brands will pay for the certification, cheap knock offs will skip it and manufacture a product that could be dangerous and shoddy.
The issue is, it's not that EVs catch fire, it's the fact that it is very hard to put out EV fires, due to the fact that lithium has a very bad interaction with water. Remember, on the periodic table, lithium is not that far off from metal sodium (Na). When sodium interacts with water, it can heat up very quickly or explode. A "Made for TV Movie" once used this fact as a plot device: Atomic Train. In that movie, an old Soviet nuclear weapon had a metal sodium casing, and when the train derailed, the plot went, the nuke went off and detonated. Point is, it isn't exactly sensationalism to say lithium batteries catch fire, when wet cell lithium-ion batteries do, if they get overloaded or short out. And when you have a car with a 1500-2000 lb. battery pack in an EV, like a Chevy Volt, and that car gets into an accident, and catches fire, it's very hard to put that fire out, since the first step to putting an electrical fire out is disconnecting the power source for a Class C fire.
Studies show that most automobile trips are less than 3 miles - trips to grocery store or hardware store. It would be nice to make those trips by bicycle with protected infrastructure.
While I understand the criticism of this video, I saw a Detroit paper headline that should make E-bike enthusiasts pretty happy: In a lot of major cities, there is this concept of a "road diet," where cities are actually closing lanes on highways and converting them to bike lanes. According to the story I read, the goal is to make cities pedestrian-oriented, instead of motorist-oriented, which means slowing down traffic, and thus making E-bikes, bikes, and pedestrians safer. At least, that's the intended goal. Will "road diets" actually achieve that goal? Hard to say, currently.
Thank you for commenting and contributing! It sounds like a good idea. Converting infrastructure over to protected bike lanes will encourage ridership and e-bike adoption. But until it is faster to ride a bike or e-bike, or take mass transit, people will continue to drive. 😒🚲⚡🚲
@@everythingebike : I honestly think the way it will go is what happened 120 years ago, when horses and wagons were still used in major cities, along with trolleys and the railroads, and cars came along. Basically, people didn't like cars because of the change a car represented. So, now, E-bikes are in the position cars were once in, and cars are now in the position horses, wagons, and rail infrastructure was once in. But if anything is an indication, give it 20 years. By that point, people will get used to E-bikes, if E-bike users are respectful and knowledgeable of the rules of the road. Right now, it's hit or miss if an E-bike cyclist even knows the laws E-bikes operate under, let alone the actual rules of the road.
sure? but it sounds like the issue is cars? would you rather be on foot or in a car during a wreck? would you rather be in a car or an suv? would you rather be in an suv or a train? You could escalate this poor argument. If a train hits a car the infrastructure needs to be looked at. Same goes for if a car hits a bike. We need better infrastructure for bikes.
I’m an avid cyclist, a long time motorcycle rider, and recently bought a Class 3 e-bike (20mph with throttle and 28mph with pedal assist). It’s quicker to hop on my e-bike to run a quick errand than it is to take my car or motorcycle. Not having to fight for parking space is a huge plus. I also don’t have to warm up my e-bike or suit up in leathers. Just a helmet. Can even go in slippers. I’ve got panniers and a front and rear rack so I can haul quite a bit more than on my motorcycle.
@@PersonaN007Grata Sounds perfect. I’m seriously considering. Although I have to confess that here in the Sicilian heat, I ride in shorts and t-shirt. I know it’s crazy but at least I wear a helmet and gloves, when many Sicilians don’t. They even text with one hand at the same time. 😂
If you can live with pedal assist up to 28 mph, e-bikes may be for you. Or you could go the way of electric scooter or motorcycle, something similar to the Sur Ron that will get up to ~45 mph.
I enjoy Fox News……..additionally, my wife and I own 4 e-bikes. We absolutely love them. Our biggest e-bike concern isn’t Fox News, it’s the banning of e-bikes in public parks, recreational areas and beaches. A video covering the issue of banning e-bikes may be more helpful to those of us who love e-bikes…….
I do not watch Fox News, CNN, or MSNBC, but you cited the article's title, so I read it. Nowhere in the article does it state that FOX News wants people to be afraid of e-bikes. Instead, the point of the article was "these bikes often need to be charged at home overnight, and many of them have, unfortunately, been designed with cheap and poorly-made batteries that end up exploding and causing these deadly fires." Throughout the essay, poorly crafted lithium-ion batteries were the subject and not the e-bikes. This is also true of lithium-ion batteries for other consumer products. By your logic, since the FAA only permits 101-160 Wh lithium-ion or Lithium metal batteries (2-8 grams) on commercial airlines, then they too must hate e-bikes! RFLOL Conversely to your ill-stated rant, the essay pointed out that "In New York, Councilman Robert Holden has introduced legislation that would ban electric scooters and electric bikes until further safeguards are in place. However, this is just one form of legislation. " If you do a little research, Robert Holden is a long-registered Democrat. But for some reason, you did not include his proposed legislation in your vocal comments. His legislation would stop all delivery persons who use e-bikes. The article furthermore stated toward the end of the article, "In the meantime, it's important to note that the vast majority of E-bikes on the market are safe and reliable when used as intended and maintained properly." Thus, the article further stated, "E-bike owners should also avoid using a charger that was not designed for the battery or buying batteries from secondhand stores. And remember to avoid charging the battery in a place where it might block a fire escape, like a front door or a window." Do you disagree with these suggestions? If anyone does disagree, does that make them also haters of e-bikes? Therefore, please quote the sentence or sentences that led you to think that Fox News hates e-bikes. Otherwise, you have mischaracterized for personal gain, which is despicable.
Thank you for watching and commenting. I have gained nothing personally or financially from this video. I made this video from a series of news articles. It was simply an opinion piece. Small creators like myself are trying to build a community and make videos with different themes. I'm too small to even be monetized by RUclips. This was e-bike news. I also do e-bike travel videos. I also do e-bike reviews. I've bought all my own equipment and e-bikes to review. I've only been sponsored to make an e-bike helmet review. I can appreciate your opinion, but I do not profit from this. I try to entertain. If that is despicable, I guess I am.
Have they ever cycled on a normal bicycle at Fox, let alone own a bicycle? I think they all go to work by car.🤣 I'm so glad I don't have to live in that country and maybe go on vacation or something
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Avid cyclist here with 35 years of riding safely; many close calls with ebikes recently have tested my patience with ebikes. The demographic of ebikers have terrible ridership.
Do they really? Or does your area have poor infrastructure for casual cycling and leaves them taking risks in traffic when they aren't accustomed to doing so?
Also keep in mind the ebikes open riding to newer users who are usually pretty young and less safety-conscious though I do agree that good infrastructure leads to safer riders and pedestrians.
I am 70 and ride a e- bike, I am cycling since I was 4 years old but live in the Netherlands where biking is verry safe.
Thank you for your comment. You live in the Netherlands, the envy of the biking community. Ride on! 👍
You are very lucky indeed to live in a country that doesn’t treat cyclists without such disdain.
Having done a crazy amount of research when buying my e-bike, I’ve come to the realization that 80-90% of e-bike’s are questionable, cheap Chinese drop ships. The only thing I’m concerned with is the quality of workmanship that’s in building the battery and BMS and its durability to the environment. And that’s something you can’t see with your naked eye and that gets people scared. I wish every e-bike battery is UL approved but that’s an expensive stamp to obtain and there’s no way that, even quality Chinese manufacturers, could obtain.
Then go with a make like Gazelle which are Dutch made and use German designed Bosch batteries and motors. You pay for what you get with e-bikes.
The problem is that there is that to gain UL certification, the battery or device must be submitted to expensive and costly testing. Once the device is approved, it is approved for that design. Any modifications require resubmittal and testing. Reputable brands will pay for the certification, cheap knock offs will skip it and manufacture a product that could be dangerous and shoddy.
About 300 internal combustion engine vehicles catch fire every single day. But a single EV fire will be the only car to make the news that day.
Sensationalism sells.
The issue is, it's not that EVs catch fire, it's the fact that it is very hard to put out EV fires, due to the fact that lithium has a very bad interaction with water.
Remember, on the periodic table, lithium is not that far off from metal sodium (Na). When sodium interacts with water, it can heat up very quickly or explode. A "Made for TV Movie" once used this fact as a plot device: Atomic Train. In that movie, an old Soviet nuclear weapon had a metal sodium casing, and when the train derailed, the plot went, the nuke went off and detonated.
Point is, it isn't exactly sensationalism to say lithium batteries catch fire, when wet cell lithium-ion batteries do, if they get overloaded or short out. And when you have a car with a 1500-2000 lb. battery pack in an EV, like a Chevy Volt, and that car gets into an accident, and catches fire, it's very hard to put that fire out, since the first step to putting an electrical fire out is disconnecting the power source for a Class C fire.
Got ebike a euc and I love em. Especially for short trips saves on gas.
Studies show that most automobile trips are less than 3 miles - trips to grocery store or hardware store. It would be nice to make those trips by bicycle with protected infrastructure.
@everythingebike I agree. Just as long as the goverment and elites use it as an excuse to control
While I understand the criticism of this video, I saw a Detroit paper headline that should make E-bike enthusiasts pretty happy: In a lot of major cities, there is this concept of a "road diet," where cities are actually closing lanes on highways and converting them to bike lanes. According to the story I read, the goal is to make cities pedestrian-oriented, instead of motorist-oriented, which means slowing down traffic, and thus making E-bikes, bikes, and pedestrians safer. At least, that's the intended goal. Will "road diets" actually achieve that goal? Hard to say, currently.
Thank you for commenting and contributing! It sounds like a good idea. Converting infrastructure over to protected bike lanes will encourage ridership and e-bike adoption. But until it is faster to ride a bike or e-bike, or take mass transit, people will continue to drive. 😒🚲⚡🚲
@@everythingebike : I honestly think the way it will go is what happened 120 years ago, when horses and wagons were still used in major cities, along with trolleys and the railroads, and cars came along.
Basically, people didn't like cars because of the change a car represented. So, now, E-bikes are in the position cars were once in, and cars are now in the position horses, wagons, and rail infrastructure was once in. But if anything is an indication, give it 20 years. By that point, people will get used to E-bikes, if E-bike users are respectful and knowledgeable of the rules of the road. Right now, it's hit or miss if an E-bike cyclist even knows the laws E-bikes operate under, let alone the actual rules of the road.
In a wreck would you rather be on a bike or a car? But less power is it worth it? Lots of things to hit in a city. It only takes one.
I’d like to have bike infrastructure similar to other cities around the world that separates bike traffic and treats it as a form of transportation.
I agree
sure? but it sounds like the issue is cars? would you rather be on foot or in a car during a wreck? would you rather be in a car or an suv? would you rather be in an suv or a train? You could escalate this poor argument. If a train hits a car the infrastructure needs to be looked at. Same goes for if a car hits a bike. We need better infrastructure for bikes.
66 and still a daily motorcycle rider. Maybe this is my future?
I’m an avid cyclist, a long time motorcycle rider, and recently bought a Class 3 e-bike (20mph with throttle and 28mph with pedal assist). It’s quicker to hop on my e-bike to run a quick errand than it is to take my car or motorcycle. Not having to fight for parking space is a huge plus. I also don’t have to warm up my e-bike or suit up in leathers. Just a helmet. Can even go in slippers. I’ve got panniers and a front and rear rack so I can haul quite a bit more than on my motorcycle.
@@PersonaN007Grata Sounds perfect. I’m seriously considering.
Although I have to confess that here in the Sicilian heat, I ride in shorts and t-shirt. I know it’s crazy but at least I wear a helmet and gloves, when many Sicilians don’t. They even text with one hand at the same time. 😂
If you can live with pedal assist up to 28 mph, e-bikes may be for you. Or you could go the way of electric scooter or motorcycle, something similar to the Sur Ron that will get up to ~45 mph.
@@everythingebike thanks for the advice. I think I need a bit more speed. 😂 Maybe an electric scooter?
I enjoy Fox News……..additionally, my wife and I own 4 e-bikes. We absolutely love them. Our biggest e-bike concern isn’t Fox News, it’s the banning of e-bikes in public parks, recreational areas and beaches. A video covering the issue of banning e-bikes may be more helpful to those of us who love e-bikes…….
Thank you for watching. I'll look into the banning issue!
I do not watch Fox News, CNN, or MSNBC, but you cited the article's title, so I read it.
Nowhere in the article does it state that FOX News wants people to be afraid of e-bikes. Instead, the point of the article was "these bikes often need to be charged at home overnight, and many of them have, unfortunately, been designed with cheap and poorly-made batteries that end up exploding and causing these deadly fires." Throughout the essay, poorly crafted lithium-ion batteries were the subject and not the e-bikes. This is also true of lithium-ion batteries for other consumer products. By your logic, since the FAA only permits 101-160 Wh lithium-ion or Lithium metal batteries (2-8 grams) on commercial airlines, then they too must hate e-bikes! RFLOL
Conversely to your ill-stated rant, the essay pointed out that "In New York, Councilman Robert Holden has introduced legislation that would ban electric scooters and electric bikes until further safeguards are in place. However, this is just one form of legislation. " If you do a little research, Robert Holden is a long-registered Democrat. But for some reason, you did not include his proposed legislation in your vocal comments. His legislation would stop all delivery persons who use e-bikes.
The article furthermore stated toward the end of the article, "In the meantime, it's important to note that the vast majority of E-bikes on the market are safe and reliable when used as intended and maintained properly." Thus, the article further stated, "E-bike owners should also avoid using a charger that was not designed for the battery or buying batteries from secondhand stores. And remember to avoid charging the battery in a place where it might block a fire escape, like a front door or a window." Do you disagree with these suggestions? If anyone does disagree, does that make them also haters of e-bikes?
Therefore, please quote the sentence or sentences that led you to think that Fox News hates e-bikes. Otherwise, you have mischaracterized for personal gain, which is despicable.
Thank you for watching and commenting. I have gained nothing personally or financially from this video. I made this video from a series of news articles. It was simply an opinion piece. Small creators like myself are trying to build a community and make videos with different themes. I'm too small to even be monetized by RUclips.
This was e-bike news. I also do e-bike travel videos. I also do e-bike reviews. I've bought all my own equipment and e-bikes to review. I've only been sponsored to make an e-bike helmet review. I can appreciate your opinion, but I do not profit from this. I try to entertain. If that is despicable, I guess I am.
Have they ever cycled on a normal bicycle at Fox, let alone own a bicycle? I think they all go to work by car.🤣 I'm so glad I don't have to live in that country and maybe go on vacation or something
The US is totally car dependent. And it’s a shame.
Because fear mongering is NEVER a thing with the Demoncrats? Yeah, right.
Example?
Hey Democrats s*ck too' but tge video is about Fox News, not Republicans tho I know it's hard to tell the difference.
Touché
So I hate Fox News, and by the way I hate Fox News, and did I tell you that I hate Fox News, and maybe you didn't get it but I hate Fox News, let me tell you that I hate Fox News, let me be clear, I hate Fox News, and not only do I hate Fox News but I really hate Fox News too, did you know that I hate Fox News, yes, it's Fox News that I hate, and not only that but I hate Fox News....
Thanks for watching and contributing!
It's nice when Fox takes a time-out from starting a civil war & installing a dictator
Avid cyclist here with 35 years of riding safely; many close calls with ebikes recently have tested my patience with ebikes. The demographic of ebikers have terrible ridership.
Do they really? Or does your area have poor infrastructure for casual cycling and leaves them taking risks in traffic when they aren't accustomed to doing so?
Also keep in mind the ebikes open riding to newer users who are usually pretty young and less safety-conscious though I do agree that good infrastructure leads to safer riders and pedestrians.
A lot of e-bikers are older and haven’t ridden in a while. A little patience and guidance may help.
I’m an avid cyclist roadie too but I also ride an e-bike. What’s this demographic that you speak of?
Goofy video
Thanks for watching and contributing! 👍👍👍
@@everythingebikeno this is a goofy video