So, here's an important lesson: All things being equal, if an opponent has both Mirari's Wake and Zendikar Resurgent out, you should probably take out the Zendikar Resurgent. +1/+1 to all creatures is generally wayless dangerous than letting them draw a card every time they cast a creature, and if they regrow the Resurgent, it costs 7 to Mirari's 5, so it'll cost them more to play it again. But mostly the on-cast card draw trigger.
Pretty sure your first Rishkar's expertise got countered by Jamies Soul manipulation, which can only counter creature spells... not a huge deal but did change the game a bit.
Bryan would not draw from Deathreap Ritual when Alesha “died” from Vindicate as she went to the command zone, which is a replacement effect, so it didn’t actually die.
I'm surprised everyone kept targeting Mirari's Wake instead of Zendikar Resurgent... sure, pumping creatures may be a nuisance, but drawing a card for every creature cast sounds even more dangerous to me.
Also Bryan shouldn't have drawn off of Deathreap Ritual for killing Alesha. If a commander 'dies' and gets sent to the command zone. Being returned to the command zone is a replacement effect - they never actually went to the graveyard and thus don't trigger those abilities. That's a really common slip-up, I know, because even if you're aware of that rule it's still very unintuitive and easy to forget.
One note with Coat of Arms and Mirror Entity, the thopters would have been much larger, as it gives them all every creature type. Harsh Sustenance wouldn't have killed the entity and each creature would have been size 25/25 or something like that.
In that case shouldn't you have gained more life from the elephant token entering the battlefield :) ? Really enjoyed the game, keep up the good work !
Rules stuff: Alesha doesn't trigger morbid when she goes to the command zone. Rishkar's Expertise isn't a creature, so soul manipulation cannot counter it. Muddstah should gain 18 life from Momentous Fall, as it should still be doubled. Muddstah should have an extra floating mana from casting mirari's wake on turn ten. Bryan should be making some extra saprolings on end steps with floating mana with all those overrun anthem effects in his deck. He misses a lethal twice because of it. Sometimes the play is just to have a bunch of dudes and murder people, especially when Trostani gains so much life every turn. I think the right play is still to force Muddstah to altar to get blockers out of the way, but I'm not actually sure what Jeff can do to you with your deck rolling and at such high life totals. As always, I love your videos Muddstah. Keep on doing your thing =D
Dang, I just discovered this channel. Instead of going to bed to get enough sleep I find myself binging your videos and having a blast. Already in love with your channel, thank you for making videos!
um... Coat of Arms and Mirror Entity on the board at the same time... ummm.... i think it had +Board/+State and that the harsh sustenance wouldn't have been enough to kill it
So everyone forgot Coat of arms is a global effect? the shapeshifter should have been huge/huge and the thopters would have dealt more damages. Can't blame you though, every time the card is played in my playground we either forget it or just destroy it on sight because "it's too annoying to count every time".
Your Trostani deck was extremely resilient. Very impressive! I built a budget Trostani once, but dismantled after a couple of games. I didn't know Trostani can be this powerful.
Nice game! I was constantly trying to figure out why you were milling yourself. Then you dropped that seance and it all made sense :p (Also Karmic Guide and Sun Titan).
Your Terastodon restored my faith in this game after Vindicate was WASTED so horribly when the Deathreap Ritual and the Journey to Eternity were* there. Jamie wasted a power card right there.
I suddenly want to try building a Trostani deck. From 2 health to over 170, my god was that satisfying to watch. I would love it if you posted your current deck list on tapped out
Great game once more... can only imagine how long it was in real time :-) Josh and Jimmy from the Command Zone almost ALWAYS say: "Whoever starts to cast multiple spells a turn and channels through his deck is likely to win the game." ==> Well, I guess green/white just showed us how it's done ;-)
I think Jeff should have tutored for Murderous Red on Turn 7, and cast it w/ his 4 open mana. Cast Alesha turn 8, attack, recur Anafenza, forcing the table to deal with a combo piece or lose on the spot. Alesha is nasty; even budget builds have several great combos. It's hard to see the right line without playing a ton of games.
Maybe the single best game I have seen on this channel. Up until the last couple of turns I wasn´t sure who is going to win. Also love the Trostani deck. It really came together and it is interesting to see it´s development from your Conquering the Commander video up to this point. There is nothing more fun in EDH-deck building than doing something certain colour combination really isn´t supposed to do. Waiting to see how good Bramble Sovereign is in the deck. Do you also run Helm of the Host or do you find it a bit too clunky?
It feels good to know that whenever I play an esper deck usually Oloro or Sen Trips I’m not the only one who gets bolted down to death early on because the deck is too much of a threat. Tell/Reccomend Jamison to make Oloro the commander and add a few cards to abuse his totally not eminence, eminence effect so he has more life to survive getting bolted down while he draws some tutors to find the triplets. And also have more resources.
lol bryan was clearly upset with me for stealing his memorial, so i died like 10 mins into the game pretty annoying. ill consider your recommendation thanks
1:45 Im not sure if Alesha going to the Zone would have triggered Deathreap Ritual, because it never technically dies if you send her away due to a replacement effect.
Tristan’s token reanimator? Well this was a surprise... And as an Alaskan I can sympathize. The four seasons in Anchorage are June, July, August, and Winter.
Glad to see you finally win a game with Trostani, I'm building her right now & watching all the games to see what works well. Do you run any token doublers or not worth it in your build?
1. Deathreap ritual, and any morbid triggers for that matter, don't trigger off Commanders hitting the Command zone, as Alesha did. 2. You would have gained 18 life, not 9 from the momentous fall on terastodon, as Rhox Faithmender was on your battlefield. 3. Coat of arms affects ALL creatures, and mirror entity turns creatures into ALL creature types, as well as making them base x/x, so all creatures on the field (and more importantly, the attacking ones) would have grown considerably. On this same point, your elephant token hitting the field would have gained you more life.
I went to look at the alesha list, are you sure it's the same as the one that was played in the vid ? Knowing phyrexian tower alone is ~£30, I doubt the video alesha list is budget :P
So my gag is going to be I only play graveyard decks. I already have Mimeoplasm-tron and Karador etb built, I have half a deck of Trostani token reanimator in sleeves (Still need trade for more cards), and I'm planning on building Alesha aristorcrats. Any other graveyard decks I should add to the list?
Other than the potential win con as seen in this video, why do you run altar of dementia? Is it intended as a wincon? or do you run it for another reason.
Just curious, when you sacrifice your little creatures to Altar of Dementia, why do you keep milling yourself instead of your opponents? Is there stuff in your deck you specifically want in the Graveyard other than Riftstone Portal?
Yes, the deck functions heavily off of using artifacts and enchantments to exile creatures from my GY as tokens, and then populate said tokens with Trostani.
Hey my dudes and dudettes, can you all help me with something? does any of you know a video where they drop a test of endurance on the field, and andrew makes a freeze frame scratch record effect. Anyone knows what video it is?
Did I spot nylea god of the hunt in the graveyard? Is she in for the deck for the trample? I prefer to go the one off triumph of the hordes in my version. With processor it can be lethal.
Hey, muddstah, I have been a fan of your vidoes for a long time, and was wondering if krenko was your first commander, and that is why your thumb nail is a goblin. If this is true, I suddenly your videos a lot more.
>Winter and Construction< sounds like a toptier modern-deck. I'd play it.
Dustiness same here in Massachusetts. Winter and Road Repair.
So, here's an important lesson: All things being equal, if an opponent has both Mirari's Wake and Zendikar Resurgent out, you should probably take out the Zendikar Resurgent. +1/+1 to all creatures is generally wayless dangerous than letting them draw a card every time they cast a creature, and if they regrow the Resurgent, it costs 7 to Mirari's 5, so it'll cost them more to play it again. But mostly the on-cast card draw trigger.
I was thinking the same thing while watching the game.
agree 100%
My thoughts exactly.
Pretty sure your first Rishkar's expertise got countered by Jamies Soul manipulation, which can only counter creature spells... not a huge deal but did change the game a bit.
5:27 "Completely destroys my immersion in the game" lol Equipment will do that.
Eli Pye remember when Standard was about a bunch os hawks holding swords?? Good times, old times
Marcelo Leria Yup!!
The true face of fear is a sigarda wielding 3 swords, two hammers and an hot soup
Processor feels so dirty in Tristani, but is so satisfying when it hits the field xD
Bryan would not draw from Deathreap Ritual when Alesha “died” from Vindicate as she went to the command zone, which is a replacement effect, so it didn’t actually die.
... until now!
I'm surprised everyone kept targeting Mirari's Wake instead of Zendikar Resurgent... sure, pumping creatures may be a nuisance, but drawing a card for every creature cast sounds even more dangerous to me.
When I see "Me" among the players, I instantly like the video 50% more.
soul manipulation (jamie's counterspell for rishkars expertise) can only counter creature spells :/
cool game nonetheless!
Oops!
Also Bryan shouldn't have drawn off of Deathreap Ritual for killing Alesha. If a commander 'dies' and gets sent to the command zone. Being returned to the command zone is a replacement effect - they never actually went to the graveyard and thus don't trigger those abilities. That's a really common slip-up, I know, because even if you're aware of that rule it's still very unintuitive and easy to forget.
One note with Coat of Arms and Mirror Entity, the thopters would have been much larger, as it gives them all every creature type. Harsh Sustenance wouldn't have killed the entity and each creature would have been size 25/25 or something like that.
Oh good point!
In that case shouldn't you have gained more life from the elephant token entering the battlefield :) ? Really enjoyed the game, keep up the good work !
Rules stuff: Alesha doesn't trigger morbid when she goes to the command zone.
Rishkar's Expertise isn't a creature, so soul manipulation cannot counter it.
Muddstah should gain 18 life from Momentous Fall, as it should still be doubled.
Muddstah should have an extra floating mana from casting mirari's wake on turn ten.
Bryan should be making some extra saprolings on end steps with floating mana with all those overrun anthem effects in his deck. He misses a lethal twice because of it. Sometimes the play is just to have a bunch of dudes and murder people, especially when Trostani gains so much life every turn.
I think the right play is still to force Muddstah to altar to get blockers out of the way, but I'm not actually sure what Jeff can do to you with your deck rolling and at such high life totals.
As always, I love your videos Muddstah. Keep on doing your thing =D
Dang, I just discovered this channel. Instead of going to bed to get enough sleep I find myself binging your videos and having a blast.
Already in love with your channel, thank you for making videos!
1:49 when alesha was put into the command zone, she didn't die, therefore no morbid trigger
Good catch!
8:00
Note for future: you cannot cast both Path and Claim by tapping only Command Tower, as under Resurgent you would add either WW or GG, but not WG.
I have to say that i didnt like the old goblin voice, but I miss it now every time i see the intro...
um... Coat of Arms and Mirror Entity on the board at the same time... ummm....
i think it had +Board/+State and that the harsh sustenance wouldn't have been enough to kill it
Yea, mistakes were made!
So everyone forgot Coat of arms is a global effect? the shapeshifter should have been huge/huge and the thopters would have dealt more damages. Can't blame you though, every time the card is played in my playground we either forget it or just destroy it on sight because "it's too annoying to count every time".
I blame Jeff, but you're right. It just didn't click for us.
Great Job Muddstah! I have built a deck based on your Trostoni deck and I quite love it.
Your Trostani deck was extremely resilient. Very impressive! I built a budget Trostani once, but dismantled after a couple of games. I didn't know Trostani can be this powerful.
i absolutely love the sol kanar the swamp king playmat. It brings back fond memories from way back, i need me one!
Wouldn't you have gained 18 life off of the momentous fall because of Faithmender?
I was thinking the same thing.
I'm bad at math =(
MTG Muddstah no, you're just bad at remembering your own triggers and replacement effects, as Rhystic Study has proven it. :P
Hurtful, but I mean, you're not wrong.....
youre still my favourite cmdr channel so dont worry
I honestly think this was one of the most impressive and fun to watch games on your channel! gg well played
Great game! Trostani is incredibly powerful!
Wow. Every time I see that Trostani deck I love it more and more. That was a great game!
I've watch A LOT of your videos now and I've got to say, I enjoy watching these far more than the command zone
(which I also enjoy)
I really like that silent Danse Macabre, that plays at the start. Gains the video so much tension :D
What a great game for your trostani deck; each time i see it, it tempts me to build it, despite how I already have my favorite selesyna deck
That was a really good game. I kept thinking threat assessment. The recursion in your deck is bonkers.
I, for one, enjoyed the RKF playmats!
Matching playmats are just... *chef's kiss*
I love how your trostani deck is put together. A graveyard subtheme deck in those colors is so cool to see.
Whoa. Your Trostani deck really knows how to bounce back!
That eleventh hour life gain was insane. Trostani is a beast in your hands. :D
I’m sold. Building Trostani. The Seance is hilarious
You’re Trostani deck is absolutely amazing
Nice game! I was constantly trying to figure out why you were milling yourself. Then you dropped that seance and it all made sense :p (Also Karmic Guide and Sun Titan).
My Trostani build aims to exile creatures from the GY to make them into tokens. I've got a primer up on the channel that explains it in details.
Your Terastodon restored my faith in this game after Vindicate was WASTED so horribly when the Deathreap Ritual and the Journey to Eternity were* there. Jamie wasted a power card right there.
Haha thanks!
* GENERIC TOKEN NOISE *
You see Muddstah when a mommy Nalaar and a daddy Nalaar love each other very much...
After watching a few of your videos with Trostani I'm really tempted to make this kind of deck with her!
This Trostani gameplay is so satisfying. Top tier non-cedh deck.
That trostani deck is 🔥. 😎😎😎 Cool game! I never saw the mill win coming.
Wow that was a fun game. I want to see more trostani now that it looks like youve really ironed it out!
It's getting there. I still need to work on the early game. I find it can be a bit bulky and slow turns 1 - 5 if I don't hit a ramp card or two.
love that trostani deck, always fun watching you play it
Same seasons as Minnesota. Hello from South Canada.
That was an amazing game, I am so impressed with your Trostani deck, my god! Makes me wanna make a Trostani deck
My new favorite channel. Keep it up guys. 😃😃😃😃. What a gem.
I suddenly want to try building a Trostani deck. From 2 health to over 170, my god was that satisfying to watch. I would love it if you posted your current deck list on tapped out
The list is on TappedOut. All lists that are available are always in the about section.
I really wanna build trostani Graveyard shenanigans now, that was super cool
Great game once more... can only imagine how long it was in real time :-)
Josh and Jimmy from the Command Zone almost ALWAYS say: "Whoever starts to cast multiple spells a turn and channels through his deck is likely to win the game." ==> Well, I guess green/white just showed us how it's done ;-)
The game was about an hour and forty five.
Not sure how you split the colours for the Path and nature's claim
ive watched your trostani deck a few times its fun as hell to watch
This was the most interesting Trostani deck that i have ever seen
Gotta say that i love Trostani and all the life gain shenanigans. She is my personal favorite commander!
I think Jeff should have tutored for Murderous Red on Turn 7, and cast it w/ his 4 open mana. Cast Alesha turn 8, attack, recur Anafenza, forcing the table to deal with a combo piece or lose on the spot. Alesha is nasty; even budget builds have several great combos. It's hard to see the right line without playing a ton of games.
Yup! It's a tough call sometimes and we can easily get lost in the moment and miss some lines on occasion.
Maybe the single best game I have seen on this channel. Up until the last couple of turns I wasn´t sure who is going to win.
Also love the Trostani deck. It really came together and it is interesting to see it´s development from your Conquering the Commander video up to this point. There is nothing more fun in EDH-deck building than doing something certain colour combination really isn´t supposed to do. Waiting to see how good Bramble Sovereign is in the deck. Do you also run Helm of the Host or do you find it a bit too clunky?
Lovely game :p I truly love your Trostani deck, everytime a pleasure to watch it !
Greetings from France :)
Wow that was an awesome game! great job with Trostani you hung on by a thread for a while there
OMG where did you get those Richard Kane Ferguson artwork playmats?????
It feels good to know that whenever I play an esper deck usually Oloro or Sen Trips I’m not the only one who gets bolted down to death early on because the deck is too much of a threat.
Tell/Reccomend Jamison to make Oloro the commander and add a few cards to abuse his totally not eminence, eminence effect so he has more life to survive getting bolted down while he draws some tutors to find the triplets. And also have more resources.
lol bryan was clearly upset with me for stealing his memorial, so i died like 10 mins into the game pretty annoying. ill consider your recommendation thanks
I really want to build a a trostani deck like yours. It looks so fun
1:45
Im not sure if Alesha going to the Zone would have triggered Deathreap Ritual, because it never technically dies if you send her away due to a replacement effect.
Tristan’s token reanimator? Well this was a surprise...
And as an Alaskan I can sympathize. The four seasons in Anchorage are June, July, August, and Winter.
Love these RKF playmats!
Nice comeback! I noticed my decks lack in situations like that. Any future vids for tips?
Love your version of Trostani.
"Winter and construction." lol!
So true...
Lovely trostani deck as always!
Dude, your trostani deck is insane. So much value xD.
Merci!
I watch in VR, so that it feels like I'm actually there
You might want to avoid games with Kevin in them then. He farts A LOT.
i don't really understood why Jeff kept destroying your mirari's wake instead of your zendikar resurgens
Glad to see you finally win a game with Trostani, I'm building her right now & watching all the games to see what works well. Do you run any token doublers or not worth it in your build?
jamie conter sorcery with @conter creature spell@ in 6:00
1. Deathreap ritual, and any morbid triggers for that matter, don't trigger off Commanders hitting the Command zone, as Alesha did.
2. You would have gained 18 life, not 9 from the momentous fall on terastodon, as Rhox Faithmender was on your battlefield.
3. Coat of arms affects ALL creatures, and mirror entity turns creatures into ALL creature types, as well as making them base x/x, so all creatures on the field (and more importantly, the attacking ones) would have grown considerably. On this same point, your elephant token hitting the field would have gained you more life.
Good catches!
Hey! Really like your video and channel. You said you film in Mtl. I'm from the area too. Do you film in an LGS?
I do! Typically I film at Gamerz Co-Op on Thursdays, but sometimes I go to L'Abyss in St-Michel.
I went to look at the alesha list, are you sure it's the same as the one that was played in the vid ?
Knowing phyrexian tower alone is ~£30, I doubt the video alesha list is budget :P
this trostani deck is looking sweeter by the weeks.
what a way to win, amazing.
So my gag is going to be I only play graveyard decks. I already have Mimeoplasm-tron and Karador etb built, I have half a deck of Trostani token reanimator in sleeves (Still need trade for more cards), and I'm planning on building Alesha aristorcrats. Any other graveyard decks I should add to the list?
Other than the potential win con as seen in this video, why do you run altar of dementia? Is it intended as a wincon? or do you run it for another reason.
Kirk Fortune to mill himself to prime his yard.
Extremely fun and relentless Trostani deck. They just forgot to kill you when they could :P
Back from the brink! That's what I like.
I will name myself *Generic goblin noise* on whatever game i can !
That Trostani was HELLA resilient 😯
The Trostani deck is awesome! :D
I never seen a Trostani deck in action is this a normal build? it's interesting that it wants things in grave and i love it!
14:40 - 15:40 Whoops all life, Whoops all libraries!
So at 5:56 did Jamie use Soul Manipulation to counter a Non-Creature Spell? But anyways I enjoy the videos for the crazy commanders people build!
Yea, we realized in the game after that it was Creature only. It was a bit of a whoops, but it was too late to fix lol.
Well done bro! I bet playing trostani this game was fun af
Can someone explain Jamie what "instant speed" is?
Awesome game! Trostani really rocks!
Exilir of Immortality would be nice with Trostani with the Alter.
Just curious, when you sacrifice your little creatures to Altar of Dementia, why do you keep milling yourself instead of your opponents? Is there stuff in your deck you specifically want in the Graveyard other than Riftstone Portal?
Yes, the deck functions heavily off of using artifacts and enchantments to exile creatures from my GY as tokens, and then populate said tokens with Trostani.
MTG Muddstah Thanks, I just saw your deck getting really thin and was wondering if you were digging for something. Nice win
Pretty sure you should've been gaining double life from faithmender, notably when saccing terastodon to momentous fall
I resisted Processor in Trostani on flavor grounds for years - might be time to change my mind...
Hey my dudes and dudettes, can you all help me with something? does any of you know a video where they drop a test of endurance on the field, and andrew makes a freeze frame scratch record effect. Anyone knows what video it is?
It's this game: ruclips.net/video/Z1sJhXCDEkU/видео.html&list=PLtMmIcAO3f9p4kGRFaLOoK-pu7nrQXPlQ&index=39
hell yeah, thank you
Did I spot nylea god of the hunt in the graveyard? Is she in for the deck for the trample? I prefer to go the one off triumph of the hordes in my version. With processor it can be lethal.
You did see her! She is in there exclusively to grant trample.
This was a really good game well played guys
As a Trostani player I really enjoyed this game
Hey, muddstah, I have been a fan of your vidoes for a long time, and was wondering if krenko was your first commander, and that is why your thumb nail is a goblin. If this is true, I suddenly your videos a lot more.
Krenko was my first commander! I love him to death, but he's currently my wife's deck for when she plays.