How To Convert Car Alternator To Brushless Motor / No ECS With Mosfet Driver

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  • How To Convert Car Alternator To Brushless Motor / No ECS With Mosfet Driver
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  • @eleuteriopinedoacosta3983
    @eleuteriopinedoacosta3983 2 года назад +5

    Excelente zafra yildiz desde Colombia congratilaciones por tus aportes a estos circuitos prácticos y sencillos

  • @donalipatechnology
    @donalipatechnology 2 года назад +7

    Gracias @ZAFER YILDIZ por compartir tus conocimientos ¿alguien sabe como se llama el circuito, documentacion o informacion de su funcionamiento? me gustaria estudiarlo mas a fondo, gracias

  • @marcbaflast7271
    @marcbaflast7271 Год назад +4

    C'est extraordinaire ce qu'on peut faire avec tous ces éléments qui sont d'une richesse inestimable. Ce n'est vraiment pas un secret. C'est que de plus en plus les gens vont s'intéresser à ça par la force des choses. Surtout pour ceux qui ont déjà une bonne base dans l'électronique ou l'électricité soit automobile ou industriel etc...il faut aimer vraiment ça et être derrière le plus souvent possible. Se documenter surtout. Se faire aider pa ceux qui ont une plus grande connaissance sur la question. Ce qui fait qu'on rentre de plus en plus dans un monde de l'intelligence artificiel si j'ose dire au présent et surtout pour le futur.

  • @MrProvocer
    @MrProvocer Год назад +7

    Awesome project , as many others. A but of an explanation of what each of the elements does would be very useful for beginners.
    Also, what’s your soldering iron model? It’s awesome!!! I wanna buy it!

  • @fabiandebasto9839
    @fabiandebasto9839 2 года назад +6

    Muy buen video!!, te faltó ver el torque que tiene. Saludos 🖖

  • @raydreamer7566
    @raydreamer7566 2 года назад +8

    I really like what you have done and how you teach how to do the conversion. Can you show how to do the same conversion with a much large alternator for a small motorcycle install ? I have seen very large alternators of big trucks and even 36 volt from forklift trucks...

  • @jaybalgobind123
    @jaybalgobind123 4 месяца назад

    To Mr . Zafer Yildiz , thank you in advance for a helpful reply. I am sure many others would be happy to get your reply.
    For me, it would be a Tution in alternators as well.

  • @enverdemirtas8441
    @enverdemirtas8441 2 года назад +4

    Tebrikler hocam çok verimli bir çalışma olmuş

  • @noteimportanada100
    @noteimportanada100 2 года назад +7

    hola se puede llegar a rpm cero o es complejo realizar un controlador de velocidad para estos motores y dar aplicaciones en pequeños modos de transporte como bicicletas ? saludos muy bueno tu canal

  • @danielmatthews8475
    @danielmatthews8475 2 года назад +91

    First of all, Kudos for a very clever and simple circuit. But I think a little explanation of how it works would probably clear up some confusion, and probably disappoint those who are ready to try and put this on their DIY e-bikes.
    The trick with any 3 phase motor is how to commute the current to the different windings in the proper phase to make it turn. This simple circuit relies on the fact that the power supply he used is in constant current mode. (note the red LED on the power supply labeled CC) When the current in the active winding reaches the 10Amps current setting of the power supply the output voltage drops and this causes the circuit to switch (or commute) to the next winding. This means that the output voltage of the power supply has a very large voltage swing on it. It would be interesting to see the output voltage of the power supply on an oscilloscope as the potentiometer is adjusted. This is how he can get it to work without an ECS.
    The main function an ECS is to manage the winding commutation. Instead this circuit accomplishes the commutation by combining the saturation effects of the motor windings with the current source capability of the power supply and some simple diodes and resistors which combine to make a 3 phase oscillator. Because the power supply output voltage has a very large AC component to it, and the field winding of the rotor is attached directly to that node on the alternator, the battery is a clever way to excite the field winding. Trying to design a circuit to control the field winding from the same supply would probably be a bit more complicated. In a car alternator (as opposed to a generator) the output voltage is controlled by varying strength of the rotor magnetic field (current in the field winding) since the speed at which it is rotating depends on how fast you want the car to go. On the other hand, The output voltage on a generator is proportional to the speed at which it is rotating.
    So basically, you can't run this circuit off of a voltage source, like a battery, it needs a relatively constant current source.

    • @elniko4852
      @elniko4852 2 года назад +6

      Как хорошо что так много людей которые вообще не понимают электронику судя по коментариям.нам хоть работа есть

    • @alexlo7708
      @alexlo7708 2 года назад

      You mean they can put some switching transistor with a large inductor as a current buffer. And control circuit to keep voltage in 12V level. All this as pre circuit before driving this DIY. Thats right?

    • @comancheflight698
      @comancheflight698 2 года назад +3

      Add 12 alternating polarity permanent neodymium magnets onto the rotor and you remove the need for the battery.

    • @Ozzy3333333
      @Ozzy3333333 2 года назад +3

      I am afraid your wrong, I run this type of controller in CV mode for 3 decades. The reason its in CC mode is do to the low impedance windings on this generator, its low so when its generating 30~40A it gets less hot, if you want to run this size motor off say CV of 12v, you need three $1 100W power resistors from alixepress, this will limit its output power.

    • @myronhelton4441
      @myronhelton4441 2 года назад +13

      They lie, it aint no brushless motor.

  • @vancehines562
    @vancehines562 2 года назад +23

    Excellent circuit! Suitable for many applications. + wire is connected to center of star or y . He is using N channel Mosfets as low side switches, making it unipolar. It would seem diodes /resistors are directing back emf from adjacent phase for gate drive.

    • @charliesimpleton7157
      @charliesimpleton7157 Год назад +4

      True !!! This video will be very useful in pumping water using only DC current which is way cheaper than being connected to the grid. I can only imagine its extensive applications.

    • @ArshaansEdits
      @ArshaansEdits Год назад +1

      Can this work in a Delta configuration?

    • @imnotbeluga007
      @imnotbeluga007 Год назад

      @@ArshaansEdits Nope, four wire Y (Wye) connection only with a common connection as well.

    • @jeremyatutube
      @jeremyatutube 7 месяцев назад

      do you know of a circuit that does work on delta? cheers@@imnotbeluga007

    • @user-dq8fj3cp2e
      @user-dq8fj3cp2e 3 месяца назад

      I'm looking for literature on under standing electrical components an electrical diagrams do you have any suggestions

  • @rodrigoaguiar7058
    @rodrigoaguiar7058 2 года назад +8

    Era o conhecimento que eu mais precisava.Obrigado.

    • @andinoag
      @andinoag 2 года назад

      Vou tentar também 👍🏻

    • @boavistamodelismo
      @boavistamodelismo 2 года назад

      Oi Rodrigo, eu moro em Recife e gosto muito de eletronica. Esse turco é demais nos projetos. Vou tentar fazer um circuito desse aqui.
      Já montei um com ESC e tem pouca estabilidade, não dá pra tocar uma máquina. Vou testar esse amanhã

    • @alceugaspar3388
      @alceugaspar3388 2 года назад

      Quem montou um me fala se funcionou

    • @sandrolaerciopiltz8240
      @sandrolaerciopiltz8240 2 года назад

      @@alceugaspar3388 Com bateria de carro normal não funciona, só com fonte de alimentação semelhante ao mostrado no video. Para fazer o chaveamento dos mosfets e girar normalmente o eixo do rotor, é necessário uma sequência correta programada, como por exemplo atraves de um micro controlador, que ligado à drivers, dispara os mosfets na sequência correta.

  • @paveltroller2289
    @paveltroller2289 2 года назад +78

    A very nice circuit! But look at the power consumption! It takes up to 200W without supplying any mechanical output energy out! So, where is those 200W going ? I believe that keeping it on the speed takes about 50W max, it rotates freely. So, the rest converts to heat. I don't know, what's heating, whether it's the switching circuit or the alternator itself, probably both, but I believe that running it on such power for longer time will make it to blow. It's possible that the alternator has enough air cooling so it will survive it, but definitely, the efficacy of this construction doesn't look too much ecological. It would be also interesting to measure the mechanical output power it's capable to supply and the consumption it takes during it, it's possible that the efficacy will improve under load.

    • @assassinlexx1993
      @assassinlexx1993 2 года назад +10

      With such small wires. I can't imagine a very high output. Torque = boom

    • @hermanwijaya194
      @hermanwijaya194 2 года назад

      @@assassinlexx1993 gf FC cpyyuui ia

    • @gamingnijer5368
      @gamingnijer5368 Год назад +1

      Is there a way we can get the battery to charge from the same alternator

    • @ravanabrahmarakshas4263
      @ravanabrahmarakshas4263 Год назад +8

      @@gamingnijer5368 nope. that thing is working as generator or motor.... if you turn it it is generator... if you give it power, it turns and it is motor. it cannot be boh at the same time..... but you can have two of them, one as motor one as generator and KILL the second law of hermodynamics, (that is fake), and generate a permanent motor generator that generates electeicity... there are lots of them on youtube. how many are fake? how many are real? second law is fake or real? you need to test to see the answers.

    • @nimalkarunathilaka1538
      @nimalkarunathilaka1538 Год назад

      No

  • @moniaamic-uw5hi
    @moniaamic-uw5hi Год назад +5

    Fajny temat latwy do zamontowania jako silniczek do roweru z odp sterownikiem i bateriami 😊

  • @marius.mihai71
    @marius.mihai71 Год назад +1

    Nice job!
    Novice question: if the alternator is used in this setup, can it be used the other way around, to convert mechanical energy into electrical energy from a brushless motor?

  • @RarinbowHeart
    @RarinbowHeart 2 года назад +6

    Brushless DC motor is actually a synchronous motor. Thus, the angular position of the magnetic field of the permanent magnet with respect to the magnetic field that rotates with the excitation frequency which is the oscillating frequency of used three phase Royer oscillator, must be fixed at a certain value in order to produce useful torque and to maintain the rpm. If you notice, at some powering up instances, motor shaft does not turn at first, shakes a bit, and after giving some initial rotation, fields are synchronized and the motor accelerates. In classic drive schemes, Hall effect sensors give the ticks to be synchronized or ESC handles synchronization tracing back emf voltages on three phase windings. Moreover, supply voltage can not be reduced below a certain threshold voltage that is the threshold of the Mos transistor, and therefore circuit actually can not handle low rpm/high torque drive. To sum up, driver circuit is simple and effective at high rpm/low torque applications with some initial triggering at start up. It should be improved to cover mentioned problems to drive at low rpm.

  • @tiaocardoso9657
    @tiaocardoso9657 2 года назад +9

    Parabéns sou seu seguidor de tempos Parabéns novamente por simplificar outra vez coisas boas pra todos nós conheço alternador com essa explicação vai facilitar a minha pesquisa sobre o assunto importante prá nós que gostamos do assunto valeu

    • @edilsonbarros8420
      @edilsonbarros8420 Год назад +3

      Montei esse circuito e não funcionou , caso vc tenha montado e tenha funcionado pode me dá uma ideia ?

    • @jproma25
      @jproma25 Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/mUU_k1gM7l4/видео.html

  • @toohsynsyyn3572
    @toohsynsyyn3572 Год назад +2

    You are unique idea man sir very very good in all of your project and you teach us every day so we pray to God a special knowledge for you thank you sir very much.

  • @nimalsandunsiri4024
    @nimalsandunsiri4024 2 года назад

    Very simple. thank you

  • @piezaspararobotica
    @piezaspararobotica 2 года назад +9

    Excelente , estoy maravillado , que con tan pocos componentes se logre , estos resultados, felicitaciones, ..

  • @boavistamodelismo
    @boavistamodelismo 2 года назад +10

    Olá ZAFER da Turquia,
    Excelente circuito muito simples, é o que eu queria, 3 Mosfet IRF3205 com alternador de carro. Vou tentar fazer aqui no Brasil.
    Congratulações e muitas felicidades pra voce aí na Turquia.

    • @meliponariomeldocerrado
      @meliponariomeldocerrado 2 года назад +1

      Sera que funciona mesmo

    • @lucasteixeira5947
      @lucasteixeira5947 2 года назад +2

      @@meliponariomeldocerrado
      Acabei de fazer o circuito, segui exatamente o vídeo só no lugar dos Mosfets IRF3205 usei os IRFP 250N
      que havia removido de uma placa de um inversor , funciona bem ruim na partida aquece os mosfets
      mas funciona com bom torque depois que arranca!!

    • @lucasteixeira5947
      @lucasteixeira5947 2 года назад

      A titulo de experiência é bem interessante mas acho que no uso não vai suportar por muito tempo!!

    • @meliponariomeldocerrado
      @meliponariomeldocerrado 2 года назад +1

      @Lucas Teixeira da pra por mais mosfets em paralelo vai suportar mais corrente na partida

    • @kintushaami4404
      @kintushaami4404 2 года назад +1

      It doesn't work I tried it already

  • @carlitomadrona6211
    @carlitomadrona6211 Год назад +1

    Nice work, I just wonder how it performs under load and may be higher voltage.

  • @trikthop
    @trikthop 2 года назад +2

    Mantap luar biasah

  • @electronicshelpcare
    @electronicshelpcare 2 года назад +8

    Wow you are great 😌

  • @santazonta1
    @santazonta1 2 года назад +4

    Elinize sağlık üstat düşük devirlerde tork üretebiliyor mu acaba

  • @atwalcheapenergy3918
    @atwalcheapenergy3918 2 года назад +1

    Thanks sir ur this video solve my big problem now I can complete my project thanks again

  • @videomentaryproductionschannel
    @videomentaryproductionschannel 2 года назад +2

    Could you use this idea to make an electic bike, using the gears of the bike and this motor system 😀?

  • @randyserano7490
    @randyserano7490 2 года назад +5

    So the alternator is in star connection, am I right? My question is.. How many watts is the maximum can handle the controller or the mosfets? Can I input a 48 Volts 1000 watts?

  • @gaspartqueiroz
    @gaspartqueiroz Год назад +6

    Thanks Zafer for the excellent posting! 👌
    Could you next time highlight the circuit sketch as you solder on? It makes it easier to follow!

  •  2 года назад

    Elinize emeğinize sağlık. Güzel bir paylaşım olmuş. 👍

  • @dakyszammis3714
    @dakyszammis3714 2 года назад

    cara ta pra existir uma inteligencia igual a tua vou ate a suecia pra falar pros caras la de dar o premio NOBEL,,parabens,, outra coisa voce tem pra vender estas baterias azul ,,,acho que umas 4 dessas da pra abastecer minha casa de energia o mes todo,,,agradeço a ideia inovadora , o mundo nao vai mais ter falta de energia eletrica

  • @mr.viktor742
    @mr.viktor742 2 года назад +13

    Очень хорошо автор показал всю суть. Спасибо за видео.👍👍👍🛠️🛠️🛠️🌟

  • @user-mg7lu7dj3o
    @user-mg7lu7dj3o 2 года назад +9

    Последовательно с обмоткой подмагничивания проще включить лампу накаливания от авто 10-20 ватт в зависимости от мощности "мотора". Тогда не нужен литиевый акку и 2 питания.

    • @user-tl6fb6qi3j
      @user-tl6fb6qi3j 2 года назад

      сколько часов он отработает

    • @crenimrt268
      @crenimrt268 Год назад

      Видел не мало роликов по єтой теме, но сдесь я не понял....всегда распутывают концы фаз, ищут начала и концы обмоток, а тут он оставил фазы как есть, да ещё и впаял дополнительный провод, и что за место в которое он впаял? и такой вариант имеет место быть или те "класические" варианты всё же лутше?

    • @Wick51
      @Wick51 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@crenimrt268 Четвертый провод, это средняя точка трех обмоток. Вместо лития на подмагничивание, я ставил две батарейки типа АА. В зависимости от напряжения, у меня менялся силовой момент. Хотя лучше всего два провода на щетки подключать к общему питанию через лампочку на 10 ватт 12 вольт. Генератор брал от Волги, у которого на валу только щетки, то есть с внешней таблетки, а не встроенный. Точно так же работает и генератор от 412 Москвича.

  • @alexon2010
    @alexon2010 Год назад

    Very cool, I'm a complete beginner in electronics, would you have a step by step on how to do this! About this piece that is used to increase or decrease the speed, would it have some way of being automatic, via radio frequency, wireless, bluetooth, in some way that I can change the speed at a distance that is short or even via arduino, because of the battery? Since you are testing with a bench source

  • @alisharifian535
    @alisharifian535 2 года назад

    I think this configuration will work on any three phase AC motor, provided that you supply it with a decent amount of current., because car alternator is simply a 3 phase AC generator.

  • @Shinaiza100
    @Shinaiza100 2 года назад +14

    This is an excellent contraption Zafer. Congratulations. How's can I regulate the current supply to correspond to the voltage I require? For example, 19V is what my laptop needs, but I noted that your gadget produces 10A at this rotation level while my laptop requires 3.4A. And may enquire the use of the AA battery? Is it for exciting the alternator field? How long would this battery last before needing replacement? Is it not possible for you to setup a self-excitation circuit so as to eliminate the need for this battery? Thanks for the knowledge.

    • @anlaz1
      @anlaz1 2 года назад +9

      При чем тут твой ноутбук😂😂😂 этн работает электродвигатель, который был генератором🤣🤣🤣

    • @ayedurand
      @ayedurand 2 года назад +5

      Yeah, I couldn't see how the circuit would trigger the MOSFETs unless there was some funky zener like threshold but the diodes specified don't have that feature.
      Also, note that he never shows startup behavior.

    • @felixyasnopolski8571
      @felixyasnopolski8571 2 года назад +3

      This is just a driver for a motor. This circuit REQUIRES an power supply.

    • @smferreiro2610
      @smferreiro2610 2 года назад +3

      This WAS an alternator in a car. Now it is used as a motor. Ir produces NO electricity, consumes it.

    • @smferreiro2610
      @smferreiro2610 2 года назад +3

      @@ayedurand This whole circuit seems a little bit shady, to say the least. If it is "brushless", why does it need to "power the rotor"? How does that power get to the rotor?

  • @jacielrj
    @jacielrj Год назад +7

    Nice! Muito bom mesmo. Só uma pergunta, nessa configuração o motor fica com quantos HPs em média?

    • @VladThanatos
      @VladThanatos 10 месяцев назад +1

      Sim, vai esperando ele te responder em português...

  • @riyadh.n1306
    @riyadh.n1306 2 года назад +1

    Wow spectacular.good job brother..!

  • @sergiubadaluta797
    @sergiubadaluta797 2 года назад +1

    Good job, thanks for video!

  • @mahmud1196
    @mahmud1196 2 года назад +3

    Bunu alatetörün diyot tablası nı iptal etmeden çalıştırırsanız 12v bir Akü hem altetnatörü Çalıştırıp hemde aküyü besleyebilir ve elektrikli bir bisiklet yapılabilir bence.

    • @canarabaci194
      @canarabaci194 2 года назад

      olmaz kardeşim. Burada fazla detaya girmeden şöyle söyleyim; adam bunu sabit voltajla yapıyor. Senin diyelim ki 16.8 lion pilin var ve 13 e düştü bu pildeki azalma dengeyi bozar. sürekli sabit bir kaynakla. yaparsan olabilir. Mesela çıkışa bir step up koyup çıkışı garantilersen olabiliir.

  • @abdulkadiraytac1189
    @abdulkadiraytac1189 2 года назад +3

    Kral doktürmüşsün yine emeğine sağlık 💯💯💯

  • @rebeldinochaves3712
    @rebeldinochaves3712 2 года назад +2

    Muito bom! estou montando um.

  • @marciliolopesnegreiros6354
    @marciliolopesnegreiros6354 2 года назад +2

    Os melhores videos sao os dele 👋👋👋👋👋

  • @luistolini6593
    @luistolini6593 2 года назад +4

    Sabe me informar , qual é a potência em HP que vc tirou da saida do eixo ??

    • @elniko4852
      @elniko4852 2 года назад

      Zero

    • @cleberwp
      @cleberwp 2 года назад

      Acho que só sae RPM alto mesmo hp eu acho ele não pode medir.

  • @walkstar4624
    @walkstar4624 2 года назад +5

    Obrigado amigo ......estou estudando sobre o alternado para tranrforma-lo em motor brusheles para bike eletrica ....faça mais vídeos a respeito ....lógico que vc mesmo montou o circuito para girar .....o bom é com uma controladora de 1500 watts daí terá potência de verdade .

    • @paulinho
      @paulinho Год назад

      olá amigo, vc acha que seria possível dois alternadores adaptados como motores moverem uma moto? Gostaria de adaptar. Gostaria de saber, além de duas placas controladoras de 1500w, o que deveria comprtar para ter confiabilidade?

  • @nimalsandunsiri4024
    @nimalsandunsiri4024 Год назад

    I made this circuit and it works well thank you

    • @user-mb5gs7no6n
      @user-mb5gs7no6n Год назад

      Отправ фота как вы его зделали

  • @charliesimpleton7157
    @charliesimpleton7157 Год назад

    Thanks for all your very useful projects. Your channel is one of the best that I have ever encountered. One thing I like is, you make me think and not only watch. More power to your channel 💪💪👍👍👍👍 Looking forward to all your new uploads.

  • @Bianchi77
    @Bianchi77 2 года назад +1

    Nice info, thanks for sharing :)

  • @iuriibaranov3091
    @iuriibaranov3091 2 года назад +3

    Мастер навесного монтажа

  • @jonnypeterson1904
    @jonnypeterson1904 2 года назад +7

    Я так и не увидел, когда из генератора достали щетки, чтобы он стал безщеточным

    • @raifart125
      @raifart125 2 года назад

      я думал обмотку якоря замкнули, но нет, интересно будет работать если коротнуть, этакий асинхронник или синхронник)))

  • @oscarvalenzuela262
    @oscarvalenzuela262 2 года назад

    Good project!!!what is a battery use for?, it is needed in circuit? thanks..

  • @martinmantelli1663
    @martinmantelli1663 Год назад

    para un alternador de 14v 90a hay que hacerle alguna modificacion o con este controlador funciona?

  • @francoisguyot9770
    @francoisguyot9770 Год назад +3

    Beautiful. I like it. The alternator is a cheap way to get a powerful 3 phase motor, and your circuit is simple, cheap and easy to understand and build, so it's definetely worth trying. I previously used an Ebike ECS because it was also quite cheap and offered many other options. It worked like a charm, but the documentation for the wiring were very sparse. I like yours because I can modify it as I please.

    • @danyalahmad2097
      @danyalahmad2097 Год назад

      give it a try and let me know if it work for electric bike

    • @jasonmorgan661
      @jasonmorgan661 10 месяцев назад +1

      Just use more batteries to power the alternator exciter coil lol...

  • @nixo0077
    @nixo0077 2 года назад +7

    Hello Zafer, your project is interesting. The rotor rotates smooth, even in low speed in 2000rpm. In your one comment below I read that you not recommend it for an electric bicycle becouse the its efficency is low (Shrikant Bhai Bhosale). What can I do to improve the efficency?? If it needs more volatge it is possible to use batteries for 24-36 volts??

    • @greggorrell
      @greggorrell 2 года назад +1

      You use a different motor.. it is not suitable for powering a bicycle.

    • @nixo0077
      @nixo0077 2 года назад

      @@greggorrell Hello Gregory, I do not use any motor, you mind that the motor is too big ???

    • @abuxxx3607
      @abuxxx3607 2 года назад +1

      Too many RUclipsrs used modified car alternator in their go kart and ebike

    • @nixo0077
      @nixo0077 2 года назад

      @@abuxxx3607 What do you mean "Too many RUclipsrs used car alternator.." Perhaps, you have your own experiances, plesae share with YT. From my old cars I have 3 free alternators. I can reuse them or throw away

    • @abuxxx3607
      @abuxxx3607 2 года назад

      @@nixo0077 ruclips.net/video/IKqy3rRWJQE/видео.html

  • @user-yr9qr6nd3g
    @user-yr9qr6nd3g Год назад

    I enjoyed your video and the circuit. This was for a 120 W application. I am interested in higher power usage like 4.5 KW, 12V at 375 A. What components in the circuit change? Also, as other comments point out, the alternator is a brushed one. What is different for a true Brushless alternator? Will the alternator start on its own? What is required for a bi-directional rotation application?

    • @user-lj7xy8uc2z
      @user-lj7xy8uc2z 11 месяцев назад

      Привет, надеюсь что ты сможешь перевести на свой язык...просто не очень хорошо говорю на английском 😅😅😅😅...поищи как устроен и как работает генератор и тебе станет ясно примерно что тут делают....я ищу что-то что сможет работать на 1,5 KW как минимум и всегда у меня один вопрос: а резисторы в данной схеме выдержат столько мощности??? Просто транзисторы я знаю какие взять чтобы работали на 300+ ампер(их используют в самодельных вейпах большой мощности) и по вольтам они подходят, а вот на счёт резисторов у меня всегда огромный вопрос.... поэтому сейчас я решил что буду делать всю систему с ограничением тока на управление двигателя (тоесть с аккумулятора напряжение регулируется для регулировки скорости, потом регулировка для самодельного драйвера и сам драйвер хотяб на 20 ампер, в конце двигатель) но моя идея если работает не только "на бумаге" то только для электровелосипедов с двигателем не более чем примерно 500 W. Не знаю была ли эта информация полезна вам в вашей ситуации, но я старался помочь по мере моих знаний на данный момент. Удачи вам и надеюсь что у вас получится найти и сделать такой контроллер!

  • @pafunleal3849
    @pafunleal3849 2 года назад +1

    Very nice project, congratulations
    I have built the very same circuit to run a HDD step motor and it does the jobs, however, it does not self start...one have to start it by hand.
    I have noticed that at 6:30min, when you turn on ther power supply, the video is interrupted and when it continues the alternator shaft is already spinning...
    Can you explain the reason for this?
    Does it also require some help to start spinning?
    Thanks for your attention and eventual reply and again, congrats for the job well done
    Best regards
    Salustiano, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

    • @imnotbeluga007
      @imnotbeluga007 Год назад

      Most likely. This thing is too simple to start on its own. If field coil power is applied after the MOSFETs get power, the rotor's magnetic field may induce enough voltage in the coils to get it going on its own.

  • @MutluAtessacan
    @MutluAtessacan Год назад +3

    Selam Zafer bey ( ESC ) bağlantıları benzemiyor. Sadece ( ESC olarak bağlantıları 5v servo test, amper güçleri, pil bağlantı ve çıkış 3 faz ) Alternatör direk 3 fazı bağlamak elektrik olmayacak manyeti pil hariç... Başarabilirsen milyon değil MİLYAR kişi izleme rekoru çıkarır ve Kosgeb Ar-Ge size çağırabilir ve ödülü alabilirsin. Çin den şipariş durdurur. Tabiki burda Pilsan ve fırçasız motoru açıldı. Sen ESC için Togg fabrika gibi devlet sizede açabilir. Haydi bitir şunu ÇİN i

    • @mutlusanoha
      @mutlusanoha Год назад

      Mutlubey Devlet bunu bekliyor zaten avrupalılar 2025 de uçan taksi arabalar çıkacağı söylüyorlar ve bundan önce TÜRKİYE başlamalıdır. Bir tek ESC kaldı.

  • @umutmuhammedturk9788
    @umutmuhammedturk9788 2 года назад +8

    Güzel çalışma olmuş ellerinize sağlık. Bu sistemi birde normal rc lerde kullanılan fırçasızlara deneseniz muhteşem olurdu ama gerçekten emeğinize sağlık olsun

    • @ZAFERYILDIZ52
      @ZAFERYILDIZ52  2 года назад +1

      👉❤ bu olabilir ve teşekkürler

  • @sl4ck2
    @sl4ck2 Год назад

    Very nice!
    2 questions please: why not use power supply too for rotor power instead li-ion cell what is orange wire common wich is not used by regular brushless controllers?

    • @imnotbeluga007
      @imnotbeluga007 Год назад +2

      Current limitation.. if that coil has a resistance of 4Ω, it will draw 3A from 12V - 36W, which is not always required. So, using a 3.7V Li-Ion cell, the power draw decreases to just 0.925A - around 3-4W of power.
      This circuit uses only 3 MOSFETs to switch the current in the coils. Regular ESCs have 6 MOSFETs, so the current can flow from one coil to another. Here, all current flows through just one coil and to the common point, that closes the circuit to the power supply.

  • @biocargo
    @biocargo 2 года назад

    Gracias estimado. Los MOSFET soportan trabajo continúo?. Abrazo desde Argentina.

    • @javiercuromendoza3598
      @javiercuromendoza3598 2 года назад +1

      si pero el del video solo es un protipo q no sirve para largas horas de uso

  • @freeenergy8273
    @freeenergy8273 2 года назад +4

    Привет! Зачем 3,7V АКБ? Можно подключить к тому же питанию 12V через мощный резистор или лампочку! 😊

    • @wendellhammond7853
      @wendellhammond7853 2 года назад +3

      It a scam

    • @krtek2O2
      @krtek2O2 2 года назад

      in this connection, the battery will be very happy when the alternating current induced from the stator starts to flow into it, but perhaps it will not explode, because it will soon stop exciting the rotor winding.

    • @ZAFERYILDIZ52
      @ZAFERYILDIZ52  2 года назад +1

      чтобы ротор оставался стабильным во время изменения мощности, потому что он потребляет 10 ампер и полностью использует источник питания

    • @freeenergy8273
      @freeenergy8273 2 года назад +2

      @@ZAFERYILDIZ52 Какой там ток у ротора при 3,7V? Тогда можно поставить стабилизатор от 12 на 5V!

  • @shrikantbhaibhosale
    @shrikantbhaibhosale 2 года назад +4

    can this will be used for making electric bicycle

    • @ZAFERYILDIZ52
      @ZAFERYILDIZ52  2 года назад +1

      In fact, I do not recommend it, the efficiency is low, but if you can afford it, of course it will work.

    • @randyserano7490
      @randyserano7490 2 года назад

      Yes you can. This is the alternative of ESC.

  • @sanjayshinde9786
    @sanjayshinde9786 2 года назад

    Very very useful thanks brother! Plz give no. Of MOSFET &circuit diagram!

  • @kaplanbilisimatolyesi
    @kaplanbilisimatolyesi Год назад +1

    Hayretle izliyorum videolarını abi. Gerçekten çok başarılı. Helal olsun sana.

  • @nik685
    @nik685 2 года назад +3

    К ЭТОЙ БАЙДЕ НАДО ЕЩЕ, ПУСКО-ЗАРЯДНОЕ НА 20А
    ПОДКЛЮЧАТЬ - ГЕМОРРОЙ, ЛУЧШЕ ДВИГАТЕЛЬ б/у на 220в переобрести !

  • @victoryfirst2878
    @victoryfirst2878 2 года назад +8

    How efficient is this type of conversion ??? How powerful is an average alternator 120 amps compared to a electric motor Sir ??? Thanks

    • @victoryfirst2878
      @victoryfirst2878 2 года назад +1

      @Клим Ворошилов How do you translate the message ???

    • @jarrahoyen148
      @jarrahoyen148 2 года назад +1

      @@victoryfirst2878 he said unprofitable battery consumption is high. But i guess that depends on what you want.

  • @jaimevergara7467
    @jaimevergara7467 2 года назад

    Excelente trabajo. ¿Qué aplicación podría darle a este motor? .Por ejemplo, ¿serviría para una amoladora, una pequeña bomba de agua, una bobinadora, una moledora de maíz...?

    • @smferreiro2610
      @smferreiro2610 2 года назад

      Es un motor con polea... ¡sirve para todo lo que puedas imaginar! (P=VI => 18v x 10A = 180W, o "1/4 HP")

    • @javiercuromendoza3598
      @javiercuromendoza3598 2 года назад +1

      amigo solo es un prototipo no sirve para largas horas de uso se calientan mucho los mosfet

    • @smferreiro2610
      @smferreiro2610 2 года назад

      @@javiercuromendoza3598 si, y creo que es más el producto de la curiosidad técnica de "hacerlo porque se puede", no porque se tenga una aplicación en mente.
      Para las otras aplicacones es más probale que haya un motor en la vuelta, que un alternador.

  • @zaminmutallibov
    @zaminmutallibov 2 года назад +1

    Çok güzel abi.çok iyi bir faydali video.

  • @killerpigszombi3382
    @killerpigszombi3382 2 года назад +3

    Что то я так и не понял, что заставляет транзисторы поочередно открываться?

    • @cos_f
      @cos_f 2 года назад

      сила мысли автора

    • @killerpigszombi3382
      @killerpigszombi3382 2 года назад

      @@cos_f Возможно и так

  • @user-mv6il2uh1u
    @user-mv6il2uh1u 2 года назад +3

    👍👍👍

  • @gonzalodavidgara5110
    @gonzalodavidgara5110 2 года назад

    Cuantos vol y cuantos amp soporta este circuito?

  • @Neo_59
    @Neo_59 2 года назад +2

    Tebrikler ustam. Daha önce görmediğimiz bir proje olmuş. Yaklaşık gücü nedir, elektrikli bisiklet motoru olarak kullanılabilirmi?

    • @yesilsogan5629
      @yesilsogan5629 2 года назад

      Devreyi kurdum ama bi boka yaramadı çalışmıyor

    • @fharedn
      @fharedn Год назад

      Kullanamazsın kardeşim okadarda güçlü değil

  • @stevegartx
    @stevegartx 2 года назад +3

    You didn't take out the brushes. so its not brushless

  • @nikolay5328
    @nikolay5328 2 года назад +2

    не бесщеточный а щеточный так как ты щетки подключил, без щеток он бесполезен если только магниты поставить

  • @fabianopereiradasilva9330
    @fabianopereiradasilva9330 2 года назад

    Seria possível comprar esse circuito já pronto? E onde compro essa placa dissiadora, alguém sabe?

  • @rw4pjqradiomaster529
    @rw4pjqradiomaster529 Год назад

    Благодарю за схему.Повторить попробую.Интересная штука.

  • @SAEED_.1
    @SAEED_.1 2 года назад +4

    عاشت الأيادي عمل راقي جدا جدا

  • @user-bk1ft2be9u
    @user-bk1ft2be9u 2 года назад +3

    Судя по видео у него одна из проблем, ограничивающая применение, он сам не стартует, его надо принудительно крутануть в ручную.

    • @Vitaly1962
      @Vitaly1962 2 года назад

      Без датчика Холла никак.

    • @user-yy7ju3cp5r
      @user-yy7ju3cp5r 2 года назад

      Но и драйвер на коленке собран, за 100 рублей.

  • @kaskanbilgin
    @kaskanbilgin 2 года назад

    Ellerinden sağlıklı helal olsun teşekkür ederim

  • @celsocarvalho9703
    @celsocarvalho9703 2 года назад

    PARABÉNS belo trabalho

  • @gulecestrafortasarim
    @gulecestrafortasarim 2 года назад

    Merhaba,yine çok faydalı bir video olmuş,teşekkürler🙂👏🏻bu tür kablolarda kullandığınız ısıyla daralan makaronlar tam olarak kaç mm oluyor hocam?

  • @user-fg4lk8ri1l
    @user-fg4lk8ri1l 2 года назад +1

    Спасибо!!! Отказался от этого!!! Запустил, рукой, когда дал питание через балластное сопротивление. Сейчас хочу собрать на контроллере "MTD6501C"

  • @chien0995
    @chien0995 2 года назад +1

    it work for me! thank you!

  • @amr.a-m8350
    @amr.a-m8350 2 года назад +1

    Good tutorial, but I would like to ask how much the volt & current of blue battery or Minimum required power.

    • @andinoag
      @andinoag 2 года назад

      The diagram show the battery have 3.7v 👍🏻

  • @arlexarredondo9444
    @arlexarredondo9444 2 года назад

    Saludos, otra pregunta cuánta carga puede soportar con alimentación de 12 vol

  • @aihismatullin
    @aihismatullin Год назад +2

    Что-то многовато 200Вт для холостого хода. Интересно, момент наверное не плохой на валу будет. Позновательно, в любом случае. :)

  • @RarinbowHeart
    @RarinbowHeart 2 года назад +1

    Elinize sağlık. Güzel çalışma. Buradaki sürücü aslında Royer osilatörünün 3 faza çıkarılmış bir versiyonu. Trimpot ile mosfet Vgs gerilimi ayarlanarak aslında mosfetlerin Rds dirençleri ayarlanmış oluyor. Burada dikkat edilmesi gereken nokta, düşük Vgs geriliminde yani yüksek Rds direncinde mosfetlerde yüksek Rds*Ids^2 kaybı olacaktır. Bu da düşük devirlerde yüksek ısıl kayıp anlamına geliyor. Soğutucu yeterli olmazsa yüksek çalışma zamanında mosfetler yanabilir. Yüksek devirde sınırlı hız aralığında çalışma koşulu için basit ama etkili bir sürücü.

  • @sabrilatip7487
    @sabrilatip7487 2 года назад

    Thank God ,youre genius, and hope to see more of your ideas,thanks

    • @ZAFERYILDIZ52
      @ZAFERYILDIZ52  2 года назад

      Gracias por el apoyo y los comentarios.

  • @abhisurwase2875
    @abhisurwase2875 Год назад

    Sir you are very clever in electronics.salut sir.i like it.india.

  • @halukyalcin5751
    @halukyalcin5751 2 года назад +1

    Teşekkürler elinize emeğinize sağlık.

  • @johndeeregatorleforum625
    @johndeeregatorleforum625 2 года назад

    Sous les IRF, il serait préférable de mettre de la pâte thermique avant de les serrer sur le dissipateur.
    Sinon tuto clair et net. 👍

  • @DesignMakeFix
    @DesignMakeFix 2 года назад +1

    Good video..
    Speed is there, but can it produce enough torque to be used as an ebike motor?

    • @adymorar3676
      @adymorar3676 2 года назад

      the coil have a 3,7v supply.that is a low magnetic field.maybe magnets on rotor could be a better solution

  • @user-ip1jf6is4g
    @user-ip1jf6is4g 2 года назад +1

    красавчик. давно искал такую простую схему решения. СПАСИБО ТЕБЕ.

    • @vadimp1374
      @vadimp1374 2 года назад

      работает?

    • @user-ip1jf6is4g
      @user-ip1jf6is4g 2 года назад

      @@vadimp1374 конечно

    • @vadimp1374
      @vadimp1374 2 года назад

      @@user-ip1jf6is4g покеж? собирал?

    • @user-kk7bz7lj2m
      @user-kk7bz7lj2m 2 года назад

      @@user-ip1jf6is4g А если идентичный гена, устанавливающийся на мотоциклах ИЖ Ю5, заводить мотор осилит ???

  • @AUGUSTAVIRON
    @AUGUSTAVIRON 2 года назад

    Çok güzel Zafer kardeş..bir de diagram photosu koysaydın çok iyi olurdu..acaba rotora eklediĝiniz batarya kaç volt 3.7 .mi? Teşekkür ederim

  • @e21performance22
    @e21performance22 Год назад

    Hello, can I use this same irf bridge technique to control the three-phase motor of an electric scooter?

  • @armaky4962
    @armaky4962 Год назад +1

    Eu fiz este sistema de acordo com a descrição do Autor , mas não deu grandes resultados Mosfet aqueceu muito até rodou mas o torque muito baixo , talves duplicando a quantidade de mosfet si consiga um torque aproveitável .

    • @notriaasevla6049
      @notriaasevla6049 8 месяцев назад

      Fiz usando modulo de bicicleta eletrica e ficou bom

  • @ro3784
    @ro3784 2 года назад

    This idea would be awesome if some tech or scientist could make this a free power supply unit. The idea is cool of a brushless system.

  • @angelkaragiozov526
    @angelkaragiozov526 Год назад

    Hi, I enjoyed your video on converting a car alternator to a motor. The controller you make and the circuit you give is for a motor with windings connected in a star. Please answer if your controller can be used for a motor with delta connected windings.
    thank you in advance
    Angel

  • @murraysheerin6949
    @murraysheerin6949 2 года назад

    Will it self start ? It looks like you give it a little spin by hand first before you oush the power supply button on.

  • @MiguelGarcia-lx1vu
    @MiguelGarcia-lx1vu 2 года назад

    Creo que al alinentar con 3.7V el rotor, te regresa a la categoria de motor de escobillas