Another great video. That is exactly why I bought the 24 Defender limited is because it fits what I use it for. Hunting and property work . It is also a fun machine to trail ride but probably not to the extreme. Keep the vids coming.
I have a 4 door 2023 Defender with the XMR package. It has the Smart Lock which is fantastic, and it also has an additional rocker switch for Trail/Mud modes. This changes how/when the diffs lock, basically telling the machine whether it's on a slippery surface rather than a hard surface. This leads to a total of 8 different combinations of 1, 2, 3, and 4 wheel drive depending on what you're doing. The versatility the Defender offers in its 4x4 modes is simply unmatched.
These 2 machines were the decision I was working on a few weeks ago. Defender Lonestar Limited or Xpedition ADV5 NorthStar. I ended up going with the Xpedition and absolutely love it, but I dont think there is a wrong answer here - both are incredibly comfortable and capable trail limos.
I have looked at both, And what lm hearing is that the Polaris compared to some of the others spend more time in the shop getting worked on. Love both but need to do more research, Thanks for the video!
I have the defender as well, and the reason I chose it, my friend owns and sells Can-Am’s, Polaris and Hondas. He said that 80% of their shop hours go to Polaris’s. Which surprised me, always owned Polaris snow machines and had good luck. But I’ve owned two Can-Am defenders and never been in the shop.
Also I bet 80% of what they sell is Polaris so there’s more of a chance you’ll find one with issues. I’m not saying Polaris is the best by any means, however, they outsell Honda Probly 10-1
I have, and will keep my 3rd Rmax2 1000 but just ordered a 2024 defender limited. Drove one a few weeks ago and was impressed. It wont do what my RMAX will do, but it will do it in comfort.
We have Polaris, can am, and Kawasaki at the farm. Polaris stay broken down. Kawasaki never break down. Can am more reliable than Polaris but can have mechanical issues. Our Kawasaki ridge limited is my favorite tho but typically take the can am when needing to haul a bunch of people to a duck blind. I rarely go for the Polaris because I’m afraid of it stranding me and clients.
@@americandream_89 we have a 2023 Polaris xp 1000 crew and a 2022 defender max lone star and of course the new ridge. The Polaris and defender seat way more people of course so it makes sense when I’m alone to grab the ridge. But the ridge enclosed cab and HVAC system are straight up legit. You driven one?
@@br581 nice 👍 Yeah. I think once the ridge gets a 4-6 seater the XR version will steal some people over. Kawasaki motors are excellent. At least that’s my experience.
first little hill I notice you can hear the Polaris transmission whine while coasting down and it seems like the exhaust is louder on the Polaris as well....not sure though.
I got a dilemma. I want a canam 6x6 but I really like the polaris. Family of 4, with another 2 up polaris 6x6 bigboss. I like the extra seats in the polaris, but I also like the 6' bed of the canam for hauling in/out hunting camp. I would love to hear everyone's thoughts. Also a personal preference I really like to see over the front when I'm dipping in rivers/holes. In Alaska hunting and camping from thw kenai-north of Fairbanks-if you know ya know
I noticed the expedition went over on the second one that they showed the Can-Am was farther to the left on the screen then the expert expedition did which was farther on the right cause you could see the tracks and he went much farther over so that wasn’t a fair test thank you
When you were comparing flex at the first of the video and talked about the double spring ( which works very well) you were nowhere near the same place and looks as tho you were trying to promote the Polaris
I really dont think you followed the same path exactly into the creek causing the canam to articulate while the approach on the polaris you went alot more straight
@@americandream_89 true but it makes the defender soooo much better trail riding. I've noticed that the body roll isn't as bad as I thought with them off
@@bjterrell8356 xpedtion has one of the best crawling gears I’ve ever used. You can creep like no other. The clutching is so good if you could clear it, you could add 35s and not have any issue.
Can you bring out a CFMOTO and do a similar test against these trucks? I assume the cheaper Chinese trucks don't have the smart lock, so it would be interesting to see how they manage the same trails.
@@temper44 I would love to. Currently everything I do is personally purchased or family members own. I can’t get Can-am or Polaris etc to send out demo units. I’ve reached out multiple time’s without response from them and other companies. Even though our videos get a ton of views. So to produce the video requested I’d need to buy a CFMoto or find someone with one. Which is will try my best to do.
@@americandream_89 That makes sense. These trucks are out of my range, in my country you can buy a small house for the price of a Polaris.. but its still fun to see you guys put them to the test!
Im 6'4" tall. Which one has the most leg room? I dont really off road...mostly use to run down to our pool and toe a small Jon boat to the lake in our subdivision.
My dad is 6 foot four and he fits in either of them fine I think between these two it really just comes down to style of writing and your purpose of use. In your reference of use I’d get the defender
@@hdvidclips for me it’s a bigger cab with nicer seats. Cab is also about 3-5db quieter than a ranger. Due to the back seat having a hole for changing the oil. The defender also comes with 30” tires and arched arms. Ranger has flat arms and a 29” tire. The defender has grease bushings. 25 defender has factory tinted windows. It’s much cheaper to buy with way better trail orientation
@@hdvidclips the bigger tire on the defender gives you more ground clearance and your tire is the first thing to take impact. Bigger tires give better absorption of terrain.
Beautiful, but I love my 21 Defender XMR. Front and rear lockers and 15 inch clearance. Looks like you are driving a limo through the bush…that is a road and large farm vehicle.
Anything that says Smartlock or Smart anything on any UTV is going to smartly break at the wrong time..If you can’t tell when you need to engage your lockers stay on the bunny trails!
I bought my 23 HD10 defender 2 days before the 24's were announced. NOT smart (loc). Have you done any kind of......."it feels like it might tip over" vs "it did tip over" on some uneven ground. I basically hate mine for the "it feels like it is about to tip over". I might tie a rope around the window pillar and my John Deere tractor and see just what its gonna take to tip it over. Not a fun feeling on the rough stuff not knowing where that point is. Travel is nothing as advertised. My guess is you got 2 inches up and 2 inches down and then you lift a tire or two tires and it's a roller coaster ride after that. Anyone who can't afford to go to the fair, just go for a ride in a defender in the back country, you get a ride that you'll need clean undershorts afterwards. I had stiff frame, no suspension go cart as a kid with a 2.5 briggs on it. That go cart had more flex than my can am. Wondering if shock therapy has a fix for this?
@@grantparnes I’ve had mine in several places people had to hold on the opposite side. When you feel like it’s going to tip it probably is. They are very top heavy and like you said they have no suspension travel. Adding a plus one wheel and 32s makes a big difference. But it will widen your turning radius. The defender is a great machine but wasn’t intended for hardcore trails.
@@americandream_89 Thanks for the feedback. I am one of those guys you heard about who bought a new 2023 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon off the dealer lot in 2024 for 22K off sticker. Put a teraflex lift and some 37 inch milestars on and now my can am kinda sits. In fact I have had the can am 11 months and it has less than 300 miles on it. I do not know how they get away with saying the can am has 9 inches of travel (or whatever than number is in the advertisement) and it clearly is not even close to half that. I suppose it could with no sway bars, but that is not how its sold.
@americandream_89 test drove 6 UTV from Can-Am to Honda and CF-Moto and this Mule is just hands down better ride no heat and mechanics have told me these new ones already have 15,000 miles no issues but the engine has been out already on the sport model
Geo could’ve did the whole course…… this wasn’t a hard-core off-road showcasing my point was to showcase suspension flex and ride. Hopefully you’re able to see that.
Go ahead and go buy both machines and then come back and tell me this video didn’t tell you correctly………… You will see the xpedition rides a ton better
4:21 unfair comparison, you didn't go at the same angle, with the polaris you were right up to the stone and with the defender almost a full vehicle away... with the defender you went more at 90 degrees to the water and even passed the part where the drop towards the water steeper...make a pass along exactly the same tracks..
@@americandream_89 I have tons of experience, and point I’m making is upgraded suspension and tube bumpers on 4Runner kills these 50k rides and your in 30
@@lanceevans4053 We ride with people all the time doing the scenario you’re trying to reference. It takes a ton of money and a complete build and then your still way slower going through the woods than an expedition or any side-by-side.
@@americandream_89 looked interesting until u realize they are not real off-roaders.. groomed trails white shirts giving sales pitch for 25k and up SxS.. Before you say anything, if I wanted I could go out and purchase 3 of them today with cash and not blink an eye. I was actually thinking of one of these machines until smart lock was mentioned.. and the reliability forums on these brands sound like a nightmare.. At the prices and their large size . you can buy a reasonably equipped used Jeep, especially since Stelantis Jeeps parent company is tanking.. they have started dropping prices.. some jeeps on lots have been there 200+days.. that can handle most of the trails they go on.. I bought a brand new Rubicon and took it on a SxS ride, the only thing I did not do was the hill climbs..
I have never in my life seen anyone give a demonstration on any ATV UTV showing them going all of 5 miles an hour. They both are to low for any real trail riding they look more like something a 115 year old would drive
Another great video. That is exactly why I bought the 24 Defender limited is because it fits what I use it for. Hunting and property work . It is also a fun machine to trail ride but probably not to the extreme. Keep the vids coming.
Appreciate the feedback buddy. The defender is a great machine.
I have a 4 door 2023 Defender with the XMR package. It has the Smart Lock which is fantastic, and it also has an additional rocker switch for Trail/Mud modes. This changes how/when the diffs lock, basically telling the machine whether it's on a slippery surface rather than a hard surface.
This leads to a total of 8 different combinations of 1, 2, 3, and 4 wheel drive depending on what you're doing.
The versatility the Defender offers in its 4x4 modes is simply unmatched.
I can’t believe they still offer Visco lock 🙃 they would have so many more customers without it.
I sell Can Am and this is very well said!!
These 2 machines were the decision I was working on a few weeks ago. Defender Lonestar Limited or Xpedition ADV5 NorthStar. I ended up going with the Xpedition and absolutely love it, but I dont think there is a wrong answer here - both are incredibly comfortable and capable trail limos.
Very true. You made the right decision
Agree. Both are amazing machines. Can’t really go wrong with either one.
Expect a canam will outlast a poolaris
I have looked at both, And what lm hearing is that the Polaris compared to some of the others spend more time in the shop getting worked on. Love both but need to do more research, Thanks for the video!
I truly feel like Polaris has strengthened majority of the new units. But time will tell. Glad you enjoyed
The Defender looks like a tour bus 😮
With 2 feet of headroom
The Defender is a Pasture Princess!
I have the defender as well, and the reason I chose it, my friend owns and sells Can-Am’s, Polaris and Hondas. He said that 80% of their shop hours go to Polaris’s. Which surprised me, always owned Polaris snow machines and had good luck. But I’ve owned two Can-Am defenders and never been in the shop.
I don’t doubt that a bit Polaris is not necessarily known for quality. But it also depends on how you take care of your stuff.
Also I bet 80% of what they sell is Polaris so there’s more of a chance you’ll find one with issues. I’m not saying Polaris is the best by any means, however, they outsell Honda Probly 10-1
@@pajamatime5750 your right about the Hondas but they do sell more can ams than Polaris .
I have, and will keep my 3rd Rmax2 1000 but just ordered a 2024 defender limited.
Drove one a few weeks ago and was impressed.
It wont do what my RMAX will do, but it will do it in comfort.
Why wouldn’t you get a xpedition and kill 2 birds at once? As in have better suspension than a rmax while having a cab with heat and air
We have Polaris, can am, and Kawasaki at the farm. Polaris stay broken down. Kawasaki never break down. Can am more reliable than Polaris but can have mechanical issues. Our Kawasaki ridge limited is my favorite tho but typically take the can am when needing to haul a bunch of people to a duck blind. I rarely go for the Polaris because I’m afraid of it stranding me and clients.
@@br581 what’s the info on the units you have for comparison? Thanks for the info
@@americandream_89 we have a 2023 Polaris xp 1000 crew and a 2022 defender max lone star and of course the new ridge. The Polaris and defender seat way more people of course so it makes sense when I’m alone to grab the ridge. But the ridge enclosed cab and HVAC system are straight up legit. You driven one?
@@br581 nice 👍
Yeah. I think once the ridge gets a 4-6 seater the XR version will steal some people over. Kawasaki motors are excellent. At least that’s my experience.
@@americandream_89 I agree 100%
Polaris is SO bad! What junk!
That Polaris is loud as hell compared to the Can Am.
Thank you for this video!!! Sounds like i need to wait til they enhance both
Glad you liked it. I’d be surprised if they enhanced either of these in the next 2 years from a trail stand point.
first little hill I notice you can hear the Polaris transmission whine while coasting down and it seems like the exhaust is louder on the Polaris as well....not sure though.
The Polaris is louder in every possible way lol
I got a dilemma. I want a canam 6x6 but I really like the polaris. Family of 4, with another 2 up polaris 6x6 bigboss. I like the extra seats in the polaris, but I also like the 6' bed of the canam for hauling in/out hunting camp. I would love to hear everyone's thoughts. Also a personal preference I really like to see over the front when I'm dipping in rivers/holes. In Alaska hunting and camping from thw kenai-north of Fairbanks-if you know ya know
I don’t think you can get a defender 6x6 with the max cab? So if not you would be limited to 3 seats getting the 6x6 defender.
I noticed the expedition went over on the second one that they showed the Can-Am was farther to the left on the screen then the expert expedition did which was farther on the right cause you could see the tracks and he went much farther over so that wasn’t a fair test thank you
I have a New General XP but im sure wishing I would of spent the extra money to get the Xpedition.
When you were comparing flex at the first of the video and talked about the double spring ( which works very well) you were nowhere near the same place and looks as tho you were trying to promote the Polaris
I guess the whole video is a bust 🙄
I’ve owned both and by far the CanAm has always been the better machine, far less issues than Polaris!
I really dont think you followed the same path exactly into the creek causing the canam to articulate while the approach on the polaris you went alot more straight
You need t get a life
Great video!! What wheels do you have on the xpedition? I know you have said in the past videos. Thanks!!
Thanks buddy
Wheels are like this, but in the xpedition version
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Thank you I will check it out!@@americandream_89
Did anyone notice the lack of acceleration when going through the mud.
The defender gets much better on trails without the sway bars
That’s true but then you lose highway stability in the limited as they are top heavy
@@americandream_89 true but it makes the defender soooo much better trail riding. I've noticed that the body roll isn't as bad as I thought with them off
Wonder about removable sway bars for defender?@@redriderno22
One thing about the defender is the turning radius is awful. My ranger on 35s takes half of the turning radius as the defender on stock tires.
The 23 and above do have a big turning radius
I’d like to drive both with identical setups back to back
Would like to see how the gearing / clutching compare between the 2 machine
Woods riding the xpedtion has way better gearing. Road riding I prefer the defender
What about very slow crawling
@@bjterrell8356 xpedtion has one of the best crawling gears I’ve ever used. You can creep like no other. The clutching is so good if you could clear it, you could add 35s and not have any issue.
Oh wow that’s a major switch for Polaris that’s good to know that they finally built one you don’t have to put a gr to run 35s
So I don't think the approach was the same where can am teetered
Wonder if the 2025 Defender will catch up to the Polaris?
I hope they come out with a xpedition competitor. It’s going to be tough to beat though. All someone needs to do is develop a trailing arm version
Great comparison, Incredible Property. Thank-you!
Thanks
Appreciate it.
Can you bring out a CFMOTO and do a similar test against these trucks? I assume the cheaper Chinese trucks don't have the smart lock, so it would be interesting to see how they manage the same trails.
@@temper44 I would love to.
Currently everything I do is personally purchased or family members own. I can’t get Can-am or Polaris etc to send out demo units. I’ve reached out multiple time’s without response from them and other companies. Even though our videos get a ton of views. So to produce the video requested I’d need to buy a CFMoto or find someone with one. Which is will try my best to do.
@@americandream_89 That makes sense. These trucks are out of my range, in my country you can buy a small house for the price of a Polaris.. but its still fun to see you guys put them to the test!
The Polaris has larger tires on it from the factory here? Or am I imagining things?
I installed the 32s on the Polaris
Big box, small tires, wheelbase too long, ground clearance shallow, many mods needed for our usage. Have fun
Hello. The expedition did it have the comfort clutch update just wondering. Nice video
It’s stock clutching. I currently do not plan to do the comfort clutch as I like the power delivery it has stock.
Thank you
Im 6'4" tall. Which one has the most leg room? I dont really off road...mostly use to run down to our pool and toe a small Jon boat to the lake in our subdivision.
My dad is 6 foot four and he fits in either of them fine I think between these two it really just comes down to style of writing and your purpose of use. In your reference of use I’d get the defender
Which one do you like better
Xpedtion by a long shot for what I do
Smart lockers suck if your doing hard core stuff..You want to be able to have the front locked up before the obstacle not when you're on it..
why would you recommend a defender over a ranger?
@@hdvidclips for me it’s a bigger cab with nicer seats. Cab is also about 3-5db quieter than a ranger. Due to the back seat having a hole for changing the oil. The defender also comes with 30” tires and arched arms. Ranger has flat arms and a 29” tire. The defender has grease bushings. 25 defender has factory tinted windows. It’s much cheaper to buy with way better trail orientation
@@americandream_89 good to know info! .. thanks! ... I was always under the assumption that the ranger was a better ride quality.
@@hdvidclips the bigger tire on the defender gives you more ground clearance and your tire is the first thing to take impact. Bigger tires give better absorption of terrain.
And how would you compare a ranger XP Northstar to the defender limited which would be more of a fair comparison.
I’ve got a ton of those comparisons on here, at least 6 videos
I have a 23 lone star, with visco lock. Just wondering if there’s a locker kit available?
Several companies make lockers for the front, but you also have the ability to add smart lock to yours
Beautiful, but I love my 21 Defender XMR. Front and rear lockers and 15 inch clearance. Looks like you are driving a limo through the bush…that is a road and large farm vehicle.
The XMR is a sweet machine, id like to see a limited XMR
Where did you get the rack in the bed of your defender?
From Can-am
@@americandream_89
Thank You.
Did the Polaris have the quieter clutch kit in it? Do you have any experience with an xpedition with the clutch kit, thanks
The Polaris has original clutch kit. The update from Polaris helps with cab noise so it would be a tad quieter.
It’s really not. I had one put in. Not much difference in noose
Anything that says Smartlock or Smart anything on any UTV is going to smartly break at the wrong time..If you can’t tell when you need to engage your lockers stay on the bunny trails!
I bought my 23 HD10 defender 2 days before the 24's were announced. NOT smart (loc). Have you done any kind of......."it feels like it might tip over" vs "it did tip over" on some uneven ground. I basically hate mine for the "it feels like it is about to tip over". I might tie a rope around the window pillar and my John Deere tractor and see just what its gonna take to tip it over. Not a fun feeling on the rough stuff not knowing where that point is. Travel is nothing as advertised. My guess is you got 2 inches up and 2 inches down and then you lift a tire or two tires and it's a roller coaster ride after that. Anyone who can't afford to go to the fair, just go for a ride in a defender in the back country, you get a ride that you'll need clean undershorts afterwards. I had stiff frame, no suspension go cart as a kid with a 2.5 briggs on it. That go cart had more flex than my can am. Wondering if shock therapy has a fix for this?
@@grantparnes I’ve had mine in several places people had to hold on the opposite side. When you feel like it’s going to tip it probably is. They are very top heavy and like you said they have no suspension travel. Adding a plus one wheel and 32s makes a big difference. But it will widen your turning radius. The defender is a great machine but wasn’t intended for hardcore trails.
@@americandream_89 Thanks for the feedback. I am one of those guys you heard about who bought a new 2023 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon off the dealer lot in 2024 for 22K off sticker. Put a teraflex lift and some 37 inch milestars on and now my can am kinda sits. In fact I have had the can am 11 months and it has less than 300 miles on it. I do not know how they get away with saying the can am has 9 inches of travel (or whatever than number is in the advertisement) and it clearly is not even close to half that. I suppose it could with no sway bars, but that is not how its sold.
I wouldn’t trade my KRX for both of them.
Well considering both are worth $75000 and a krx sells for 17000 I’m not sure your thinking clearly
Don't worry, no one would trade you their can-am or polaris for yours
Do you have resr sway shocks on in this video?
Yes
Xpedition anyday over any CanAm. First thing it has nornal doors that open the way they should!
I'll take my 2024 Kawasaki Mule platinum ranch edition
Do you think it would perform better?
@americandream_89 test drove 6 UTV from Can-Am to Honda and CF-Moto and this Mule is just hands down better ride no heat and mechanics have told me these new ones already have 15,000 miles no issues but the engine has been out already on the sport model
Polaris for the win hands down.
A geo metro could go through the first obstacle what the heck
Geo could’ve did the whole course…… this wasn’t a hard-core off-road showcasing my point was to showcase suspension flex and ride. Hopefully you’re able to see that.
These things have become plastic Jeep Rubicons!
Pretty much
Two completely different lines when entering the creek bed
Go ahead and go buy both machines and then come back and tell me this video didn’t tell you correctly…………
You will see the xpedition rides a ton better
4:21 unfair comparison, you didn't go at the same angle, with the polaris you were right up to the stone and with the defender almost a full vehicle away... with the defender you went more at 90 degrees to the water and even passed the part where the drop towards the water steeper...make a pass along exactly the same tracks..
😂 okay if you say so
I guess you own a defender
You must own the dealership
That’s my dream
Defender seems quieter
@@NEWPL it is by a longshot
Cheaper and better idea to buy a 4Runner
A 4Runner rides 10x rougher than these
@@americandream_89 your crazy
@@lanceevans4053 you obviously have no clue about Off Road riding
@@americandream_89 I have tons of experience, and point I’m making is upgraded suspension and tube bumpers on 4Runner kills these 50k rides and your in 30
@@lanceevans4053 We ride with people all the time doing the scenario you’re trying to reference. It takes a ton of money and a complete build and then your still way slower going through the woods than an expedition or any side-by-side.
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This is where Polaris is better. My ranger is locked up when in 4wd. My buddies canam maverick. Those wheels just a spin. And he paid more 😂😂
Agreed Polaris has a great front differential. The 24 defender is much better now though compared to previous versions.
If you are in a white t-shirt, kaki pants and white trimmed shoes on.. I’m not listening to you..
@@goatboycasto then why are you watching…..
@@americandream_89 looked interesting until u realize they are not real off-roaders.. groomed trails white shirts giving sales pitch for 25k and up SxS.. Before you say anything, if I wanted I could go out and purchase 3 of them today with cash and not blink an eye. I was actually thinking of one of these machines until smart lock was mentioned.. and the reliability forums on these brands sound like a nightmare.. At the prices and their large size . you can buy a reasonably equipped used Jeep, especially since Stelantis Jeeps parent company is tanking.. they have started dropping prices.. some jeeps on lots have been there 200+days.. that can handle most of the trails they go on.. I bought a brand new Rubicon and took it on a SxS ride, the only thing I did not do was the hill climbs..
too big and cost to much ,might well buy cheap jeep and add lockers or when in doubt get ford ranger and save some money
Resale? That's not why we by this money pits silly. That what we tell our wife's. 😂
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Give your son back his T-shirt..
Thanks for sharing your thoughts 💭…….. they seem intelligent
I'd rather buy a Jeep
They have less flex than both
This is a dumb argument. You can’t go through trails at anything other than a slow crawl. Most trails out there don’t allow jeeps anyway.
I have never in my life seen anyone give a demonstration on any ATV UTV showing them going all of 5 miles an hour. They both are to low for any real trail riding they look more like something a 115 year old would drive
Polaris the biggest peace of junk i ever owned
@@EarlFlundra what Polaris did up own?
This is a pretty lame video. Driving so slow that it put me asleep
Night night 👋
not impressed at all everywhere you went my lawnmower will go if your scared to really test the machine go ahead and paint rainbow's on them
🤣 tell me how you really feel?
😂😂😂 tell me you missed the point of the video without telling me
i bought a polaris and the plastic split everywhere ...
@@bavariasuhl how?