ALLEGIANT BY VERONICA ROTH | booktalk with XTINEMAY

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  • @gloria5795
    @gloria5795 10 лет назад +355

    I think the water represents the readers tears, there's a lot of tears...

  • @tongdansun4824
    @tongdansun4824 9 лет назад +443

    Tbh it wasn't the actual part of Tris dying that killed me,it was tobias's reaction that broke my fangirl heart💔

    • @JustEmJay
      @JustEmJay 9 лет назад +2

      Tongdan Sun OMG me too :(

    • @emilyseibert1241
      @emilyseibert1241 9 лет назад

      Those are the exact words of my best friend

    • @ihavetoomuchtosay
      @ihavetoomuchtosay 9 лет назад +1

      I was at my friends house

    • @deliaaurora8117
      @deliaaurora8117 9 лет назад

      Tongdan Sun exactly what i said too :(

    • @bellarosas8279
      @bellarosas8279 9 лет назад +15

      Me too the worst part was i finished the book in class so i was crying while my teacher was giving a lecture

  • @amyweston7231
    @amyweston7231 9 лет назад +250

    I was sad when she died because Tobias was never happy in his life. When he met Tris, he was happy. When she died, he would most likely never be happy again

  • @AnaCarolinaVanzetta
    @AnaCarolinaVanzetta 10 лет назад +97

    I read this book on a bus. And then the Tris thing happened. And then I started sobbing so loud that a guy came up to me, put his hand on my shoulder and said " I finished this yesterday. I feel you."

    • @123Nerdguy
      @123Nerdguy Год назад +1

      it’s true i was the bus

  • @SkyeSummers-popforpop
    @SkyeSummers-popforpop 10 лет назад +111

    "A fire that burns that bright is not meant to last."
    I always thought that's what the cover, with the water, meant.

  • @Zamalie
    @Zamalie 10 лет назад +108

    I think that the really short chapters with Four remembering things about Tris just made me lose it... ;-;

  • @petermarsh4578
    @petermarsh4578 9 лет назад +141

    First time genuinely crying at a book... I really felt for triss...
    WHY'D SHE HAVE TO DIE!

  • @Geekmaster5000
    @Geekmaster5000 10 лет назад +114

    I just finished this book five minutes ago and I'm still crying

    • @mchoy9593
      @mchoy9593 10 лет назад +6

      I FINISHED IT 7 FREAKING MONTHS AGO AND IM STILL CRYING!!!!!

    • @oliviagacka7928
      @oliviagacka7928 10 лет назад +4

      I was still blubbering 5 hours later...thank god I was home alone otherwise my mum would have called 911 for me

    • @wilmariesvlog5815
      @wilmariesvlog5815 10 лет назад +5

      i was grateful that i was on a car alone with my dog waiting for my parents because i was so upset i started screaming instead of crying. i'm so emotionally and mentally unstable right now :/

    • @crazyjazz54
      @crazyjazz54 10 лет назад +1

      Me too ha

    • @tenaj004
      @tenaj004 10 лет назад +4

      I didn't even want to read my next book, I was so distort.

  • @pianodancer5
    @pianodancer5 10 лет назад +86

    I completely agree with the two point of views. I felt that the author did a poor job of making the characters personalities different. In Divergent and Insurgent Four was portrayed as this strong mysterious character and that is what I loved about him. And when I was reading Allegient I was so annoyed with Four and I was thinking no, this is not who Four is... So, I felt that the author should have just kept it with Tris's p.o.v.

    • @danielmorris6804
      @danielmorris6804 10 лет назад +2

      Same

    • @danielmorris6804
      @danielmorris6804 10 лет назад +4

      exactly sometimes I forgot whos pov was

    • @ShanairahAlize
      @ShanairahAlize 10 лет назад +3

      I completely agree because sometimes i would be confused on who POV it was in that chapter because they sound EXACTLY the same!! But I still liked the book, even though it was really slow paced and I cried when Tris and Uriah died...😖

  • @nlindor87
    @nlindor87 9 лет назад +40

    After Tris got shot and the chapter ended, I was like "shesnotdeadshesnotdead" but once Four finally saw her body I had to accept it. I cared nothing for the rest of the story, but holistically it was a good ending. SHE JUST DIDN'T HAVE TO DIE!

    • @marisab7306
      @marisab7306 9 лет назад

      Same! I sat there for five minutes convincing myself she wasn't actually dead and trying to stop crying before reading the next chapter. Once I found out she was actually dead I died. After I finished the whole book, for two weeks everything reminded me of FourTris.

    • @aditigulati7841
      @aditigulati7841 3 года назад +1

      That was a pretty unnecessary death for a hero as...inspiring as Tris.

  • @FashionshellsBlogspot
    @FashionshellsBlogspot 11 лет назад +49

    I just hate that SO many great Characters died, like for exampe Uriah.. Why not just let HIM live at least or Fernando in Insurgent.. Why kill all those great characters, where's the satisfaction in that? It almost felt like every character just randomly died to make the book more and more depressing. It was a great read though and I'm happy that I read it!

    • @marianamontoya9566
      @marianamontoya9566 11 лет назад +9

      answer: ALL AUTHORS ARE VERY VERY EVIL

    • @cameii77
      @cameii77 11 лет назад +2

      Because it wouldn't be a representation of war if everyone lived. Besides, more characters survived than I thought like Cara and Peter.

    • @tamy9190
      @tamy9190 10 лет назад

      totally agree, but also i don't she did because it was a good option for the book rather than the fact that the book was very slow and she wanetd to add dramatic chapters... and that is what she ended up with...

    • @addyrein429
      @addyrein429 4 года назад

      Forgot about nado

  • @madiewood8240
    @madiewood8240 9 лет назад +60

    Veronica Roth stated that Four falls in love with Christina three years after the epilogue... I hate that

    • @jadesmediacorner
      @jadesmediacorner 6 лет назад +4

      Madie Wood Wasn’t that shown in that weird little epilogue thing she wrote for the people who preordered Carve The Mark? I found it online and it was really pointless and unnecessary.

    • @piperlee4213
      @piperlee4213 4 года назад +1

      She actually said this as a joke and when people thought she was serious, she had to come out and deny that they did

    • @swastee1415
      @swastee1415 4 года назад

      It happens in we can be mended

    • @aditigulati7841
      @aditigulati7841 3 года назад +4

      I would have rathered him being alone for the rest of his life than being paired up with anyone randomly.... especially Christina...She had been my favourite character because she was genuine and supportive, but I hated her after....THAT.

    • @aditigulati7841
      @aditigulati7841 3 года назад +2

      @@swastee1415 Let's forget that thing. Find ourselves an alternate ending at Fanfiction.net

  • @ainsleeeaton2888
    @ainsleeeaton2888 10 лет назад +41

    I think the water on the cover for Aligiant is the water to end the fire. From the beggening the divergent cover was a divergent fire and in Alligiant we figured out of our main characters who are divergent dies. Meaning there flame is gone. The water is the idea of the water putting the flame out

    • @MrThumbsUup
      @MrThumbsUup 10 лет назад +12

      "I suppose a fire that burns that bright is not meant to last." :'(

    • @96navya
      @96navya 10 лет назад

      THAT!!!! That is a very sadistic thing to do!! I'm nt sad dat tris dies but I was sad for tobias!!

    • @MainAcc0
      @MainAcc0 10 лет назад

      Ahh, don´t do this to me! ... I´m not crying.. It´s just.. There must be a lot of onion somewhere in my room right now..

    • @MrThumbsUup
      @MrThumbsUup 10 лет назад +10

      Or maybe the water is supposed to be the tears of all the Divergent fandom!!

    • @morganmeyer7375
      @morganmeyer7375 10 лет назад +6

      I just thought the water represented our tears.

  • @CiaranMilesTV
    @CiaranMilesTV 9 лет назад +45

    the different povs were annoying but that last chapter when they go ziplining was perfect

  • @breannaparmenter2360
    @breannaparmenter2360 9 лет назад +80

    Tris' death was ruined for me so that's the only reason why I really expected it and it made it a little less emotional.

    • @mimin123fan
      @mimin123fan 9 лет назад +1

      S A ME

    • @gpmdf2286
      @gpmdf2286 8 лет назад

      SAME

    • @leilainthenight
      @leilainthenight 8 лет назад

      +Breanna Parmenter me too, the worst part is my friend said it SO casually like it was normal

    • @gpmdf2286
      @gpmdf2286 8 лет назад

      SAME, I WAS SO ANNOYED SHE DIDNT APOLOGIZE LIKE THATS A SIN

    • @Monkeybread300
      @Monkeybread300 8 лет назад

      +GPM DF Cinema Sins

  • @valerielouiseee
    @valerielouiseee 10 лет назад +49

    this video is basically how i felt about allegiant
    i was not happy with the ending. at all. it felt so rushed and just like she wanted it to be done and that's it

    • @carlycarter2449
      @carlycarter2449 10 лет назад +8

      I just finished it last night...i wanna know how long does this shock and pain lasts because the book literally destroyed me :(.

    • @kenniefaith
      @kenniefaith 10 лет назад

      It never goes away especially when you start thinking about it. But it to me 4 months to pick up Divergent again so I will pray for you my fellow initiate

    • @carlycarter2449
      @carlycarter2449 10 лет назад

      Bleh ive moved on, i accepted it now im reading Legend best book everrrrr.

    • @kenniefaith
      @kenniefaith 10 лет назад

      Yess Legend is a good book but the last one is kind of upsetting but still good

  • @buttatime
    @buttatime 10 лет назад +33

    What really hit me hard was that Tobias' last words to Tris were "I love you," and "I'll see you soon." Tris was my best friend. I understood everything she did. It was like we were twins or something, the way she explained herself was exactly the way I explain me. I love when you can relate to a character because when you are reading in first person it is hard when you don't agree with that main character. I will always love Tris and yeah, I was a little ticked at Tobias. I mean, while he is talking to Peter and his mother and all that stuff, Tris is dying. I can't say that I would not have gone into that room to save my brother. Even though he's a jerk. I don't think I would hesitate. I love Tris. I love Tobias. When she died. I died. I literally cried my eyeballs out. I had to read her last line over and over again till I finally realized it's real. Tris died. When Uriah died, I cried. The tears were not as bad as when I cried for Tris. When Uriah died, I felt like I lost a friend who was close but not that close. When Tori died, I was still mad at her for what had happened in Insurgent. I didn't cry. But when they found her brother, alive. I cried. So basically I fell in love with Divergent and I am actually Divergent myself. I took the test and got the same results as Tris. Wow, this is a long comment. I am done here.

    • @kate6634
      @kate6634 9 лет назад +1

      I feel the exact same way!! I thought nobody else felt like this!! I thought I needed counseling or something and I just died as well when tris and Uriah died and I just can't take it!!!!!!!! P.s I am married to Uriah #justsaying

    • @claudia_yelle2447
      @claudia_yelle2447 9 лет назад

      I felt the same way since someone had spoiled the ending for me so then I started balling there.

  • @deadinside3745
    @deadinside3745 10 лет назад +158

    Allegiant in 8 words:
    TOBIAS: Tris don't do that
    TRIS: *does it*

    • @zeeceeflower5943
      @zeeceeflower5943 7 лет назад +12

      Who that's Insurgent. Allegiant is only only four words. As Christine put it in her literal book titles video those four words are: Exposition And Traumatizing Murder!

    • @nazmachowdhury293
      @nazmachowdhury293 6 лет назад

      Yyyyyyyyyyyy

    • @Acterko
      @Acterko 4 года назад

      agreed

    • @phoebesnell8413
      @phoebesnell8413 4 года назад

      Ahahah yes

  • @abbiesanjuan4686
    @abbiesanjuan4686 10 лет назад +18

    I was still recovering from the death when I noticed that the chapters didn't have a name under it anymore... and I lost it again.

  • @tracicoleman7770
    @tracicoleman7770 8 лет назад +69

    My coping method is pretending that it never happened...

  • @rachelcook2188
    @rachelcook2188 10 лет назад +31

    I hate it when authors kill the main character and then just go back to being happy and having tea with satan. It's just like, "GIVE US SOME TIME TO MOURN!"

  • @MusiczSora
    @MusiczSora 10 лет назад +14

    Finished it last night and i couldn't stop crying. Just how her brother betrayed her and then she goes into the weapons lab instead of her brother is just so sad. And how Tobias is thinking about Tris on his way back without knowing that Tris is dead.

  • @rileyderbyshire8521
    @rileyderbyshire8521 9 лет назад +20

    When I got to the end of Allegiant, I cried for Tobias. Tris welcomed death and the chance to be with her friends and family again. Even though I cried, looking back I realized I was also really happy about the ending not being the cliché happily ever after that I hate.

    • @leilainthenight
      @leilainthenight 8 лет назад

      +Riley Derbyshire ya, his reaction and all the memories, it was just so heartbreaking even if Im angry at him

  • @sgracesful
    @sgracesful 10 лет назад +22

    I have a feeling that Roth didn't have it all planned out from book 1. It felt halting and off, like Veronica just couldn't figure out a better way to give us the answers. The book was quite unsatisfying overall. But I'll admit that I liked the last few chapters with Tobias. Anyway, the way you described everything in this video is just about how I feel about Allegiant.

  • @weebshae2095
    @weebshae2095 9 лет назад +113

    What happend "If you die, I die" thing Four?!

    • @pranjalpunekar7645
      @pranjalpunekar7645 9 лет назад +29

      Right I am like U HAD ONE JOB FOUR

    • @leilainthenight
      @leilainthenight 8 лет назад

      +pranjal punekar IFKR!!! DUDE ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS STAND BY YOUR GIRLFRIEND'S SIDE! BUT NOOOOO YOU GO LIKE OH TRIS ISN'T RIGHT! WTF!!! I WAS SO ANGRY AT FOUR!!

    • @weebshae2095
      @weebshae2095 8 лет назад

      Right??!!!

    • @weebshae2095
      @weebshae2095 8 лет назад

      YUP.

    • @Monkeybread300
      @Monkeybread300 8 лет назад +1

      +Shae-chan YOU HAD ONE JOB FOUR. ONE FREAKING JOB.

  • @trash2.032
    @trash2.032 11 лет назад +23

    my emotional side hates the ending, like is bawling like a baby, but my logical side actually likes it, like how veronica roth writes it, the action and the suspense, i mean a happily ever after isnt that good, and in a war people die, i still love the book though

  • @HelloAwesome94
    @HelloAwesome94 10 лет назад +17

    I hate how at the end only her friends remember what she did, EVERYONE sees her as a rebel....

  • @vivianseemer5274
    @vivianseemer5274 8 лет назад +11

    SPOILER: Wave Meaning Theories (of the cover):
    !. "I suppose a fire that burns that bright is not meant to last." Allegiant page 492. Water puts fire out. Tris dies.
    2.Divergent (flame on cover) Is the beginning, Allegiant concludes the series as water kills fire.

    • @addictivegamer102
      @addictivegamer102 7 лет назад

      I always thought it was referencing the spot in the airport (can't remember what it's called in the book) where Tris constantly sees it as a "cleansing fountain". And of water just splashing through everything. That theory sounds like it could be that too!

  • @goldys44
    @goldys44 10 лет назад +17

    I couldnt stop crying for like the last 30 pages of the book.

  • @teresafoo
    @teresafoo 10 лет назад +12

    i wasn't disappointed by tris's death, mostly because I liked four more than tris. I had a suspicion that four was going to be the one to die at the end, and I was surprised when it ended up being tris.

    • @jojocole5416
      @jojocole5416 10 лет назад +3

      Sammeee, tris annoyed me at times and I always thought it was going to be four so when tris died I was like sad because I wanted them to get married and have children in the great new world but then again I was relieved it wasn't four

  • @SmultronsyltNatha
    @SmultronsyltNatha 10 лет назад +16

    Just finished the book today. I think I'm kind of over Tris's death now, but I was so sad when it happened. I really wanted Tobias to get over her and get a new girlfriend at the end, 2.5 years later. It was still obvious that their love was real. A new girlfriend would be a good symbol of the fact that life goes on and it is possible to love more than one person for real in a lifetime.
    I'm surprised that you didn't talk about the symbolism and meaning of the book, like the similarity between the GD/GP conflict and racism/other discrimination. Another possible analogy to our world is how smart people don't always make smart decisions (e.g. Tris: "But I think that no matter how smart, people usually see what they're already looking for, that's all" (about the Bureau scientists' inability to realise that all problems are not caused by damaged genes) on page 256). They also discuss how costly this decision has become, since a lot of effort, suffering and money is put into these massive experiments which could be absolutely meaningless. It highlights the importance of knowing the truth before you impact people's lives this much. Again, there are many possible analogies to our time and political desicions made in our societies.
    The book also discusses the conflict between truth and happiness - both when Tris reflects about how knowing if the GDs were in fact worse people would make her treat them (better not to know?) and when Tobias wants to take the memory serum to avoid living with the pain for the rest of his life.
    Another interesting topic was lying governments - how the people without experience naturally supposed that their government was fair and honest, while the people from Chicago realise that they could be lying, because they have experienced lying governments several times before.
    I also noted that we never really get to know if the GDs are damaged in some way and create more problems than the GPs. Is that a stance from the author that it isn't relevant? Does it mean that some information can damage our way of viewing people and create unjust discrimination?

    • @haru4ls
      @haru4ls 5 лет назад +1

      He does.. BUT WITH CHRISTINA WTF...

  • @dwinamabrouk9850
    @dwinamabrouk9850 9 лет назад +10

    i started crying because of Caleb sacrificing himself and everyone agreeing just because he doesn't mean much to them. One shouldn't die because their life doesn't play a big role in your life. I was disgusted by the way it didn't take much of a toll on Tris so I was thankful Tris decided to do it instead of him. I'm probably the only one who thinks this though

  • @sierrah6097
    @sierrah6097 10 лет назад +20

    The water represents our tears.

  • @preads5430
    @preads5430 10 лет назад +5

    I absolutely loved how this book ended. It concludes the series and it leaves an important, yet sad, message. When Tobias at the end says - Since I was young, I've always known this: life damages us, every one. We can't escape that damage. But now, I'm also learning this: We can be mended. We mend each other. - That is an important message, saying that even though grief is 'there' we have friends and family to support us and life goes on. I'm glad that Tobias doesn't commit suicide, like in some other books that I've read. I'm so proud of how Veronica Roth ended it because it was a brave decision. It makes sense and even though I cried my eyes out every night, when I go to bed, I think that this was perfect! There's a key message in the movie 'Cat Away' and that is - Just keep breathing. That's what Tobias does and it makes me so happy and sad. Thanks for reading!

  • @saoirsekenny
    @saoirsekenny 10 лет назад +11

    Its not that I wanted Tris to die but you have to give it to Veronica. Life doesn't always end in happily ever after. People die and you have to face that. I was in hysterics at the end of this book but if Tris hadn't died loads more people would have died instead of just one. The ending was creative and unique and thats what I liked about this book

    • @aditigulati7841
      @aditigulati7841 3 года назад +1

      You are right but her death was genuinely totally unnecessary at the point. Shot? That's the lamest way for a huge hero to die.

  • @brooklynhellwig9882
    @brooklynhellwig9882 11 лет назад +10

    I didn't cry at the end, I just sat there, rocking, saying "Its okay, Brooklyn, you can wake up now. Its just a terrible, terrible nightmare." BUT NO, IT WASN'T, I WAS ANGRILY TWEETING @VERONICAROTH ALL NIGHT LONG!!

  • @marye9331
    @marye9331 10 лет назад +5

    Oh my gosh I am such an utter wreck. It's 3am and I'm still sobbing. The last 50 pages KILLED me. My face actually hurts from crying for the past 3 hours.
    VERONICA ROTH WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME!!! :'''''(

  • @haru4ls
    @haru4ls 5 лет назад +5

    In Divergent...
    The synopsis looked good,
    The cover looked nice,
    You opened the book,
    And began a new life.
    You found a new home,
    You met some new friends,
    You kept on reading,
    Hoping it would never end.
    You danced through the pages,
    And sang out the words,
    And felt all their joy,
    And all their pain and hurt.
    In Allegiant...
    The pages cut your fingers,
    The words cut your heart.
    Like Veronica had a knife,
    And was tearing your soul apart.
    You laughed with the characters,
    And with them you cried,
    You fell in love with them too,
    And with them you died.
    And when the book reached it's end,
    And your broken heart couldn't heal,
    You suddenly realized that this is not real...
    Sorry I am late to this... And hey not every book can't end with a Disney Princess ending.... But still I agree with you.. The ending was WTF... You should read we can be mended... IT ABOUT TOBIAS AND CHRISTINA AND IM LIKE WTF THEY COME TOGETHER.. I UNDERSTAND WHY TRIS DIED BUT TOBIAS AND CHRISTINA COME TOGETHER WTF... AND FUCK CALEB... He doesnt even grieve for her that much and he still gets the happy ending... I honestly don't like the way Tobias acted though after Tris's death.. He should've died too and got together with Tris in heaven idk... OH AND FUCK DAVID TOO..

  • @alicia-cv1nc
    @alicia-cv1nc 10 лет назад +6

    I cry everytime I watch this...
    I read Allegiant over a year ago and I still can't talk about it without crying

    • @preads5430
      @preads5430 10 лет назад

      Same, I'm here for you! :'(

  • @nomdeplume1358
    @nomdeplume1358 8 лет назад +8

    No words can describe the pain I felt after finishing Allegiant....

  • @nanaasmah938
    @nanaasmah938 8 лет назад +13

    Is it bad that I was kinda hoping for a "Romeo and Juliet" ending where Tobias would kill himself after seeing Tris's body? (I personally that it would've been more romantic and it made sense considering Tobias's destructive personality and him saying "if you die, I die too")

    • @carriehazel4096
      @carriehazel4096 4 года назад +1

      Was kind of hoping for it too... Ooop

    • @andreah316
      @andreah316 3 года назад

      i was literally hoping that he would take the memory serum but 🙄

  • @missl5002
    @missl5002 8 лет назад +23

    I bawled my eyes out when Uriah died. Forget Tris. MY BABY URIAH DIED!!!

    • @riyah7436
      @riyah7436 8 лет назад

      LOL😂😂😂😂

    • @isabelscott9605
      @isabelscott9605 8 лет назад +1

      Omg same I cared more about Uriah than tris

    • @missl5002
      @missl5002 8 лет назад +3

      +Igotpharmy -L Mhm. But I still would've liked Tris to die honorably. I mean if you're going to kill off the main character who's been through hell, at least make the death a little more worth it. I mean she survived the death serum and yet she died from two gunshots. Like bro!

  • @jadenvasquez-smith1257
    @jadenvasquez-smith1257 9 лет назад +17

    I felt depressed for about 2 weeks. I still cry even then it was a while ago when I read the book. WHO KILLS THE MAIN CHARACTER! I'm seriously thinking about writing to Veronica Roth and expressing my feelings about all the books.

    • @jadenvasquez-smith1257
      @jadenvasquez-smith1257 9 лет назад +2

      I also think the water represents my tears and when Tobias says " I suppose a fire that burns that bright isn't meant to last." as in the water burning out the fire because she died.

  • @emily-bethhodgins3150
    @emily-bethhodgins3150 7 лет назад +4

    the weird thing is when tris died i didnt cry, it didnt hit me that hard because i was just thinking shes not dead its going to be like other books when they come back from the dead or they dont actually die. but then when cara told four and christina what happened,i kind of died. Because the relisation that tris actually died, that she was gone actually kicked in and it was like a river coming out of me. And the thing that got me the most was when four was like when she jumped into the net and how he thought she was beautiful. The ending was beautiful to this book and i know that this is a series that i wont ever forget about.

  • @PallaviJaniani
    @PallaviJaniani 10 лет назад +7

    Even before i began with the series, I saw it on booktube "Allegiant has a sad ending" etc etc I was not exactly spoiled but I had an apprehension that either the main character or her love interest would die. And then when I picked up allegiant, it was expressed through a dual perspective. And hence, I understood that my fears were true. And alas Tris died. I was not happy with this. There are many books such as TFIOS, A Walk To Remember where one of the main characters died. But they had an illness and secondly the book wasn't from their point of view. Even though Allegiant was told from both POVs our journey with Tris was much longer.

  • @abbysally
    @abbysally 10 лет назад +19

    I'm still in denial about her death, along with Fred from Harry Potter!

    • @abbysally
      @abbysally 10 лет назад +6

      ***** Deathly Hallows has been out for 7 years...

    • @AimanM
      @AimanM 10 лет назад

      Same here. But why did you alleviate my grief by mentioning Fred. Now, I am more sad :(

    • @morganmeyer7375
      @morganmeyer7375 10 лет назад +1

      I CANT TAKE THE FRED DEATH NO TALKING ABOUT FREDDIE

    • @diana-qf5dw
      @diana-qf5dw 10 лет назад +1

      Well, you just spoiled a death from Harry Potter to me. Yeah, I haven't read the books or seen the movie soooo....yeah.

    • @laurenradicchi8368
      @laurenradicchi8368 10 лет назад

      Psychotic Fangirls You REALLY live up to your name.

  • @reneeXDoliviasantos
    @reneeXDoliviasantos 10 лет назад +13

    Why would they cut allegiant into 2 movies? I feel like it would be better to do insurgent cause a lot more happened (well there were a lot of different settings). I mean seriously.

    • @ostricornx979
      @ostricornx979 10 лет назад

      They just want the fans to be in tears for 2 movies ;-;

  • @Iadoreferrets
    @Iadoreferrets 10 лет назад +7

    SPOILER......I am so mad at the ending. After it happened I was waiting for it to be somehow wrong. I was flipping through to see if a chapter would have her name above it :( I was so mad she died and then felt so bad for Tobias, he went through so much in his life and he finally had Tris and then she gets taken from him. Ugh still upset, I just finished reading it like 10 minutes ago.
    Overall I wanted something different outside the fence. Not at all what I was expecting. I enjoyed the relationship aspect of this book but not the plot. Divergent and Insurgent I LOVED! Allegiant fell short for me.

  • @halleadamson789
    @halleadamson789 9 лет назад +9

    For like the first few seconds I thought tris's mom just came back to life then i realized and the tears came looting and I think we all know what happens next

  • @ChocoFreak989
    @ChocoFreak989 10 лет назад +5

    I think what got me the most in the ending wasn't just tris' death but how tobias and tris couldn't be together anymore and the loved each other so much like it tore me apart i wish they died together ir tris "thought" she died but she didn't iDK ITS ALL TOO MUCH

  • @JorgiePorgie2011
    @JorgiePorgie2011 10 лет назад +6

    I think the cover is Tobias' sculpture, or the symbol for Divergence. Since water runs every which way, and to be Divergent is to be limitless. Something I pondered after the devastation of Tris dying haha. =P

    • @sarahramsey259
      @sarahramsey259 10 лет назад +1

      I don't think it has a deep meaning. It's simply just the tears of a fangirl.

    • @JorgiePorgie2011
      @JorgiePorgie2011 10 лет назад

      Omg haha!!

  • @logan4231
    @logan4231 10 лет назад +5

    Always thought the water in the book cover was the statue of the falling water that Evelyn kept

  • @xxbeautybuddiexx
    @xxbeautybuddiexx 11 лет назад +6

    I think the water symbolizes the amount of tears you'll cry at the end

  • @sardhoethien
    @sardhoethien 4 года назад +1

    i’m here bc i finished the series 2 days ago (ikr, how early am i) and i couldn’t, for the love of peter, stop crying. i’ve been in bed, eating once a day, desperately devouring interview videos of veronica and the cast. it took such a strong toll on me and i’m pathetically seeking comfort in the internet.
    the death, painful.
    tobias’ reaction, painful.
    his memory serum scene? devastating.
    the zip line epilogue? who needs a heart anyway. i can’t be mended right now. 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @mcr6962
    @mcr6962 10 лет назад +17

    Ugh, the first book was great, the second was fine, wasn't great though, the last made me bored out of my mind.. Next time don't kill my fav character

  • @aniqah000i
    @aniqah000i 11 лет назад +5

    I felt most upset thinking about Four and how his life would be without Tris. That hurt the most. Tris was pretty annoying throughout the book. Isn't it sort of selfish to leave all the people you love behind and know that you've kind of destroyed them? It seemed that she just wanted to do what her parents did, be like them.

  • @sentientgarbages4435
    @sentientgarbages4435 10 лет назад +15

    Allegiant is the Mockingjay of Divergent!!

    • @FantasticBeasts2024
      @FantasticBeasts2024 10 лет назад +9

      I know right. I agree...Both Mockingjay and Allegiant were terrible and a real let down with nothing really...but The Hunger Games, Catching Fire and Divergent and Insurgent were amazing!

    • @ciatana1267
      @ciatana1267 10 лет назад +29

      Allegiant is WAY more heartbreaking.

    • @empathandy__5722
      @empathandy__5722 10 лет назад +2

      I agree dolphingirl...mockingjay really pissed me off and I really don't know why lol and allegiant was a huge sob fest

    • @carriehazel4096
      @carriehazel4096 4 года назад

      I think I'm the only one who actually loves Mockingjay...

  • @candicebetances2520
    @candicebetances2520 10 лет назад +10

    I LOVED the entire series!!!

  • @piperlee4213
    @piperlee4213 5 лет назад

    It’s been like 5 years since I read Allegiant and here I am, rewatching your review and I’m SOBBING AGAIN

  • @piperlee4213
    @piperlee4213 4 года назад +1

    I’ve read The Divergent Series as a whole about 7-10 times (I can’t remember, it’s been years 🤣🤣) and I just finished reading the series again, only to spend the last hour drenched in tears (which is a huge improvement tbh).
    Every time I read them, I always come back to Christine’s reviews/thoughts about the book because I’m always in the exact same mindset.
    Love you Christine 💕💕

  • @BigO719
    @BigO719 11 лет назад +5

    The symbol on the front cover is the water suspended in time described in the epilogue by tobias of his form of defiance against his father, which I thought was the best option for this book. Because the theme of bravery and ultimate defiance was a powerful and recurring theme in the book.

    • @123Princetonlover
      @123Princetonlover 11 лет назад

      That's what I'm saying! Everyone thought it dealt with the foundation but that didn't seem powerful enough to be the meaning.

  • @exokexomexolover9295
    @exokexomexolover9295 9 лет назад +9

    Am i the only one that want to be spoiled or want to know the ending before reading the book??? I really want to know if the ending is happy or not!! Am i the only?? Pls answer me!!

    • @pokerfacebillyjoe
      @pokerfacebillyjoe 9 лет назад +1

      ExokExomExolover
      You're not the only one. I like spoilers.

    • @evelyngranados2766
      @evelyngranados2766 9 лет назад

      Let me tell you: So there I was thinking. Er is Tobias going to cheat on Tris with Nita? So as stupid as I am I looked it up and an article read VERONICA ROTH TALKS ABOUT TRIS DEATH I couldn't believe my eyes. So I skipped like a couple of pages and got to the part where she passes away...so yeah I would wake up in the middle of the night thinking "oh its just a dream" but no, it wasn't. I was literally depressed

  • @HannahP742
    @HannahP742 10 лет назад +4

    I was also weeping. In school. Everyone was staring.
    I just couldn't control myself.

  • @SohailJafar1
    @SohailJafar1 9 лет назад +2

    I felt sad knowing that Tobias needed Tris and how she just left his life - is heartbreaking. I feel very sorry for Tobias. ☹

  • @annarobson1497
    @annarobson1497 10 лет назад +3

    I JUST FINISHED IT LAST NIGHT!!!! I had to phone my best friend (who recommended the book to me) for some support cause I couldn't stop crying! :'(
    And my mam didn't help by saying '' they're only fictional''!?!?!? I was like WTF?! You haven't read the full trilogy!! X

  • @MyLittleBookShelf
    @MyLittleBookShelf 11 лет назад +13

    I was spoiled that she was gonna die. I had NO hope through the book which was really sad! I cried through out the book WAITING for the death! It was torture!!! I hated Veronica's decision I hated everything I even REALLY disliked her.
    UNTIL I found out why Tris was sacrificing herself for.
    I have a brother. He's 20 and I'm almost 22. He's STILL my baby brother. He can betray me like Caleb did and I wouldn't even hesitate giving up my life for him. That's when I knew that Tris was meant to die and that the decision was the right now. I am destroyed and weird as it maybe, the moment my brother came home, I spent the rest of the evening with him... This book only made me evaluate the love I already knew I had for my baby bro... :'(

    • @mollykauffman6398
      @mollykauffman6398 11 лет назад

      that is your falt for watching this..... she worned you!!!!

    • @MyLittleBookShelf
      @MyLittleBookShelf 11 лет назад

      Molly Kauffman What? No, she didn't spoil me lol. I was spoiled else where. No one is blaming anyone here.

    • @booksandcleverness9907
      @booksandcleverness9907 11 лет назад +4

      I HAD IT SPOILED TOO.
      oh my gosh, someone made a really fancy looking list of all the people that died in the trilogy on tumblr... and didn't tag their spoilers.
      I finally finished the book, but I was exactly like you; waiting the entiiiiiiire book for her to die. I finished the book about 20 minutes ago, and i'm just sitting here, just mad and emotionally drained.
      UGH.

    • @MyLittleBookShelf
      @MyLittleBookShelf 11 лет назад +1

      booksandcleverness I've seen that stupid list before I even read Divergent :(
      and I am so emotionally drained too! I can't even do life right now. What I've been doing since yesterday is looking at everyone's reaction to Allegiant so I know that I'm not alone with these feels. If you're up for it, Veronica Roth's brother wrote & sang a song for Tris the name is The Mark by Karl Vincent Roth.

    • @lisetlisot
      @lisetlisot 11 лет назад

      booksandcleverness me toooo!!!! but it was actualy because of my curiosity jejej

  • @danielaester9016
    @danielaester9016 8 лет назад +5

    I read this back when it first came out in 2013 and omg i was reading it on a bus home from school and i couldnt control my sobs and everyone was just like staring at me while i was sobbing and idk what was more traumatic: tris's death or the way everyone was staring at me. I really hope they don't screw up the movie this year though XD

  • @rpgaddict2942
    @rpgaddict2942 9 лет назад +34

    I had no spoilers whatsoever for this book and after tris died i was so frustrated i just slammed the book and went outside.

    • @tess1044
      @tess1044 8 лет назад +4

      I did because someone told my friend and my friend told me, not knowing I was going to read the book, but I still screamed my head off

    • @ellen0825able
      @ellen0825able 8 лет назад

      Same

    • @rhetoricalproceeds4835
      @rhetoricalproceeds4835 8 лет назад +6

      I got a spoiler on tris's death, but I wasn't prepared for how it happened or anything and it was horrible

    • @purplecatloverrandompizza
      @purplecatloverrandompizza 7 лет назад

      RPGaddict my friend said Tris dies but i didnt believe her because she also said that Percy dies

  • @sophiaskyler
    @sophiaskyler 6 лет назад +1

    I was balling my eyes out and my mom was like:
    “Come on, its not real.”
    And I am like:
    “ Are you KIDDING ME? “
    I couldn’t even finish the sentence without falling to the ground crying!! I hate it!! You exactly captured what I felt like at the end of the book, and I wish that Tris and Tobias... omg I can’t even... I am seriously so filled with tears right now I can’t...

  • @Distortionist
    @Distortionist 10 лет назад +11

    I honestly didn't feel anything when Tris died. I felt something when Marlene and Tori died. Allegiant was 50% uneventful, compared to the first two books- it's kind of boring.
    Also, this book reminds you how young Tris actually is, she acts very childish at times.

  • @biguabechazara4867
    @biguabechazara4867 11 лет назад +4

    i decided o read allegiant on the airplane, and when i got to the end, i was crying hysterically next to 2 strangers. it was so awkward, and i was trying to hide it. now 2 Turkish strangers think im crazy.

  • @cesarionoexisto2848
    @cesarionoexisto2848 7 лет назад +4

    I was screaming at the book "YOU CAN'T KILL URIAH"

  • @krystalliana3223
    @krystalliana3223 10 лет назад +4

    I cried a lot, I was a like "hi? Tris? Are you coming back?" AND I CRIED 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @spoon2793
    @spoon2793 8 лет назад +1

    I'm so glad I read the ending when my parents were out because I cried so hard and even more when Four says something like "I guess a flame that burned that bright was never meant to last" That kind of started the tears again because I felt like I'd lost a friend

  • @bookluvr979
    @bookluvr979 9 лет назад +8

    I finished this book in history class and it went like this:
    Me:Ahhhhh
    Desk partner: what is wrong
    Me: nothing..... JUST TRYING NOT TO CRY!!!!!
    Desk partner: CRY CRY CRY
    Me: (smacking him with the book and going to the bathroom to cry my eyeballs out)

  • @AND2189
    @AND2189 10 лет назад +6

    Couldn't we just get the happy ending? Or that Tris was shot but lived? Like whyyy????

  • @jessiecharles4858
    @jessiecharles4858 10 лет назад +21

    Amar and George? Anyone?

  • @jasminepersaud4564
    @jasminepersaud4564 9 лет назад +16

    I don't know how I will live through the Allegiant movie.

    • @kk8490
      @kk8490 9 лет назад

      Jasmine Persaud you won't. None if us will.😭😭

    • @evelyngranados2766
      @evelyngranados2766 9 лет назад +1

      Hopefully all the fangirls will be in one auditorium. That way we'll understand each other.

    • @kk8490
      @kk8490 9 лет назад

      Evelyn Granados yaass. Like they put all the people who have read the book in one showing and all the people who haven't in another so that way it won't be weird when we start crying before anything earth shattering happens😂👍

    • @marisab7306
      @marisab7306 9 лет назад

      I read something that they're not killing Tris in the movies. I really hope that's not true.

    • @hannahcheung2209
      @hannahcheung2209 9 лет назад

      +Orange Nightcore they aren't changing the ending. Veronica Roth or a producer confirmed this.

  • @ishanimawilmada7703
    @ishanimawilmada7703 5 лет назад +1

    I love allegiant.I love the ending.It had that intense ending the story had throughout the length of the 3 books.

  • @empathandy__5722
    @empathandy__5722 10 лет назад +4

    i had a feeling tris might die only because she had that fight with Tobias mom in insurgent and his mom said "you're just his gf you are temporary, I am always going to be his mother". That always stuck with me somehow, but I didn't actually think Roth would actually kill her off...and I knew I was right that exact moment when tris was dying, Tobias got his mother back..SMH! it's been like almost a year since I read this book and watching this video again is opening some wounds lol

  • @fanlife8736
    @fanlife8736 10 лет назад +5

    I think the cover represents the little thing Tobias gets from his mom when he was in young

  • @amishapooni5222
    @amishapooni5222 10 лет назад +5

    I keep on hoping that Tris somehow will come back to life

  • @maiteossa6135
    @maiteossa6135 10 лет назад +5

    I finish this book 10 min ago, totally agree with you

  • @haydenford1962
    @haydenford1962 4 года назад +2

    The water is referring to all the tears the divergent fandom cried

  • @gabrielleisalanastan
    @gabrielleisalanastan 5 лет назад +1

    5 years later and I'm still crying/laughing at this video.
    I remember seeing Divergent, Insurgent, and Allegiant in theaters, and I hadn't read the books bc when the movies came out I was 6 years old, but now that I'm 11 and I've read the books, i literally died reading Allegiant.

  • @LizHepburnn
    @LizHepburnn 11 лет назад +5

    I've just finished the book, and I'm so pissed with Veronica! I mean, she said in an interview that she always knew how the book was gonna end. I mean, she just wrote a book, made us fall in love with the characther and fucking killed that characther!!!!! Four should've died

  • @TheMattGrimes
    @TheMattGrimes 10 лет назад +18

    they're splitting Allegiant into two films oh god

  • @addyrein429
    @addyrein429 4 года назад +3

    I literally finished the book last night and WHY DAVID WHY

  • @JacquieVlogsHere
    @JacquieVlogsHere 10 лет назад +1

    just finished the book a few minutes ago and just all the tears. everywhere. started getting emotional the second Tris revealed the plan, cuz you're right it's immediately clear that it's not actually going to be caleb, and then page 450 til the end i was continuously crying. I was glad Tris and Four were able to have a few last happy moments, but it also hurt because I knew Roth wouldn't be giving us those moments if Tris's fate wasn't sealed.

  • @marleev.7158
    @marleev.7158 6 лет назад +1

    There is another book called ‘Four’ about Tobias’s life and meeting tris and stuff

  • @marisab7306
    @marisab7306 9 лет назад +5

    I loved the ending no matter how much it made me cry

  • @emilylikespink
    @emilylikespink 10 лет назад +9

    I was so upset when Tris died. Four should not die she told us Tobias would not die.

    • @KimmyG97
      @KimmyG97 10 лет назад

      tobias didn't die smart one....

    • @jessicataylor6540
      @jessicataylor6540 10 лет назад +2

      catherine hinkebein yeah when Tobias spread her ashes i was like, "OH FUCK!"

    • @silversand9097
      @silversand9097 10 лет назад +4

      areeba siddiqui i kept thinking that she is just terribly injured but not dead i don't understand why did Roth had to spoil such perfect series at the very end i hate the ending i was crying and reading till the end that maybe somehow she will come back from ashes but seriously WTF

    • @AimanM
      @AimanM 10 лет назад

      catherine hinkebein I know i felt like what's the deal in knowing about others life when Tris is dead :(

    • @brookebaileelovee2248
      @brookebaileelovee2248 10 лет назад

      I'm telling u she didn't kill Tobias cuz she didn't want to be ripped apart by the fangirls

  • @nikkimikky99
    @nikkimikky99 10 лет назад +5

    i think the water on the cover represents the readers tears

  • @noodle089
    @noodle089 10 лет назад +1

    My opinions on the different POVs are the same. I was tearing up and then smiled when Four asked Zeke how Tris climbed into the zip line sling.
    It was really sweet.

  • @dqvolleyball22
    @dqvolleyball22 10 лет назад +1

    I finished this book/series today.... I'm pretty sure I'm just going to sit here and cry for another hour or two. Thank you for this video, it helped me laugh through this terribly sad/stupid ending. That being said lets hope Veronica Roth writes another series with more amazing characters!

  • @aliliv9384
    @aliliv9384 11 лет назад +4

    Divergent was so good until the war began and I knew every thing else was going to be sad. Tris was so good I love her but I didn't really like Christian at first .she and the other they gave tris a hard time when she was doing. Better than them in the second stage. Her death was a shock to me because I'm used to the leads staying alive so when I found out I stop reading the series altogether

  • @emilywebster7655
    @emilywebster7655 10 лет назад +3

    I think that the water on the cover represents the tears of the readers.

  • @vickilljoy6099
    @vickilljoy6099 8 лет назад +4

    okay first of I'm not a cryer, I never cry and it's actually quite frustrating and awkward xD but am i the only one who lost it when Tris finally forgave Caleb, and she was like "okay i'll sacrifice myself for him because i love him and yadayadayada" ? ;-; idfk
    but i was half prepared for Four to die, I was expecting someone important to die and I thought "okay it'll probably be four" but then Tris SURVIVES the shit that's SUPPOSED to kill her and I'm like yay but THAT FUCKING BASTARD WHY TF SHE HAD TO GET SHOT HM I WAS NOT PREPARED FOR THIS I THREW MY BOOK IN THE WALL AND WALKED STRAIGHT INTO MY BROTHERS ROOM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TO COLLAPSE ON HIS BED AND BE ANGRY

  • @DirectorsNightmare
    @DirectorsNightmare 9 лет назад

    I was incredibly satisfied. I thought it was beautiful and I don't think I would have wanted to end any other way. No book has ever made me cry before (not even TFIOS, though I did love that book), but this one had me in tears, and I was grateful for that. To me, it didn't feel like overwhelming or unnecessary sadness, it felt right. I loved Allegiant. Great booktalk, Christine!

  • @joanasantos2193
    @joanasantos2193 9 месяцев назад +1

    2024 reading these books again.
    For me Four was always the main character ❤I fall in love for this story because of him😅 the last book his personality changed to much doesn’t feel like him at all. Anyway this is the kind of book I’m missing nowadays 😢