Control Explained - What is the NSC?
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- Опубликовано: 1 май 2021
- Hello everyone. Welcome back to the Control Explained segment of Gaming University. Upon entering the Maintenance Sector of the Oldest House, Jesse is tasked with repairing the Coolant Pumps and Energy Converters of the NSC. According to Ahti, without these repairs the entire Power Plant would blow. However, the details about how the NSC generates power is classified.
Clues about the NSC's nature are littered throughout the Oldest House and even different Thresholds. In this video, we will piece together the bread crumbs in order to answer the question. What is the NSC?
Please feel free to have free discussion in the comments section below.
Enjoy!
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I absolutely love the detail of the NSC 01 being in the Quarry, I honestly missed it the first time, it's crazy.
Makes us question why the NSC translocated to the Formation of all places 👀
Must admit, I never noticed that either NSC 01 was in the Formation, or that the one in Maintenance is even "02"!
@@GamingUniversityUoG The Jukebox case file mentions the Formation being a sort magnet that draws in "nearby" shifting or teleporting things and people to itself.
My man northmoor is too angry to die, so instead he is used as a power source for the bureau
Talk about dedication and work ethics
Sounds like Doom Slayer, His pension is overdue, anger that fuels his rage and Argent Energy, which he uses as energy.
@@blazlock7285 The Hiss are just demons seeking refuge from doom slayer in another dimension
That won't stop him
What we need to do is drop Northmoor in the Hiss home dimension in the Burnt Slide and let him Solo the entire place.
@@GamingUniversityUoG Doomguy probably already put up with the task once Northmoor arrives
@@GamingUniversityUoG Oh yeah let's pitch the paranormal threat against a superhuman with questionable mental stability
What could go wrong?
"Well.., the director's primary job is keep the lights on." - Trench... that was too cold..
He literally was throwing shade lmao
@@GamingUniversityUoG gives everything Trench talked about northmoor a completely new meaning..
I remember while playing and jumping up and finding the monitors and "Northmoor Sarcophagus Container" vividly painted that my jaw dropped. I didn't pick up on Ahti's comments though, but later I found the document. Control has so many stuff like this that builds up the lore and the universe in such a rich way, high above most games out there, I feel - it's amazing. And your videos helped a lot in understanding many elements of it, especially the more complex ones! Another excellent video! Thanks for all the work!
It is my pleasure to put these together for you all. But yeah I think that is why this game has such rich lore is because they don't flat out tell you. The exposition is done in a way where it really feels like an outsider wandered into the ruins of a building and is trying to figure out what happened without a person telling us what's up.
I miss this entirely!
I been up there, i saw the monitors but i didn't understand the images i saw.
To me, the whole quest for Athi feels like busi work at first, now the whole damn quest feels completely different.
Is this small mysteries waiting to be discovered that makes Control such a great game.
If you enjoy this type of plot device I highly suggest playing Alan Wake. It does this exact same type of story layering. Remedy is great at it.
It’s why most games feel flat and perfunctory - they usually just have an NPC telling you to “do this because y” and you do it like a robot. Remedy follows the classic tradition of “show don’t tell” and because of that, the worlds feel lived in and deep.
Yay. The Reactor Room.
Hopefully we will see a sequel and have Jessie duke it out with a living nuclear explosion, which is what Northmoor probably is now
Wouldn't go as far as nuclear, but definetively yeah.
I swear this is a plot thread that is begging to be resolved. There is too much potential to not come back around to Northmoor later on. I have an idea of how it may happen too!
"Northmoor... an explosion of a man." ~ Director Trench.
Until I scaled the top of the NSC, I took this to mean the guy had a temper... O.O nope, he's literally an explosion of a man. Wild.
Haha pretty much. I hope we get to see him in the flesh at some point.
@@GamingUniversityUoG or, "in the energy" as it would be. I hope not lol if he gets out that means baaaad times ahead
As usual Trench fails to see the long term effects of his actions. Having a rogue element with the power of Northmoor deep within the FBC is a disaster waiting to happen several times worse then the surprises left hanging around the Investigations Sector. The risks far outweigh any rewards the FBC gain by a more subtle energy Bill.
My only conclusion is that Trench physically was not able to “kill” Northmoor in the traditional sense. Like it’s been stated many times he wasn’t truly human anymore
I agree. Northmoor is far more powerful than Trench. I think he was hoping Dylan could defeat him if needed.
@@piratetv1 Yeah with all the different OoPs the long-time Director probably bound to himself I wonder if it would cause more harm then good to kill him anyway
Trench had too many personal issues to really so more than exert absolute control. I could be wrong but I feel the death of his daughter caused him to get worse with his need to micromanage and control every aspect of the bureau. He doesn't plan long term though. His short sightedness led to so many issues that we are now having to clean up. This is probably another one of his legacies that Jesse will deal with.
@@GamingUniversityUoG I don’t know. Personally I think Trench “bringing home” work shows not only a lack of foresight but a level of hubris few other characters can come close to matching. Regardless of whatever Trench brought home it ultimately led to the demise of his daughter. This callous treatment of Bureau materials would only come from one so convinced he could weather any and all possible consequences that result from his actions
I think after successfully subduing Northmoor and becoming Director, Trench’s personality shifted. We see direct evidence of this in Northmoor where his personality changed almost immediately after picking up the Service Weapon.
It will be interesting to see how things progress for Jesse in the future. She’s the third Director of the FBC to be linked with the Board and the previous 2 were both... removed by their successors one way or another so not sure how I’d feel about the job myself lol
@@TheDubDisciple I'm fairly certain his "bringing work home" was entirely accidental, most likely something he left on himself, or more likely, a paranatural disease.
Man I just love the world and lore in control, such a great game, there’s so much stuff I wanna know, so many secrets and mysteries! Like they could make an anime series based on the old directors like Ash, Northmoor and Trench , would be cool but at the same time I think it’s best to leave them unanswered as it’s more interesting and special that way
I think that is Remedys philosophy too. Explaining everything would kill some of the fun. Trying to figure things out is the best part. What I would like to see though is a movie set during the Ordinary AWE in the style of a Stephen king film.
I wouldn't have known half of the stuff in this game is it weren't for your videos.
I'm glad I could help out! I think everyone in the community is constantly finding new information on the setting and story.
Oh man I am kicking myself for not noticing that the original NSC had teleported to the formation.
I love the fact you can always discover more details when it comes to the world building and lore of Control. It has such depth.
I made a video on the NSC last month and found out about this video after someone mentioned in my comments.
It is awesome to see someone else’s interpretation of the same subject. Whilst I think we mostly covered the same ideas/points it is fascinating to see the differences.
A point that I bright up in my video is about the fact the NSC acronym is possibly a reference to Chernobyl’s New Safe Confinement and that possibly the energy produced by Northmoor is nuclear.
If your interested, I’d suggest taking a look at it.
Keep up the great content!
I just did after seeing your comment. Great work! I enjoyed listening to your enthusiasm and the bit about Chernobyl was fascinating. First time hearing about that connection. It is nice to see other creators talk about this game. Keep it up!
Great job, as always.
I literally just started replaying Control the other day.
Can't get enough of the story.
Really hope they release a sequel.
I fully believe they are already planning for a sequel. Too much information out there about it.
Enjoy your next playthrough of the game!
This is one piece of the lore that i found by myself and is seriously my favorite one. it is so messed up in so many ways, i love it. Story telling through the environment at it's best
Environmental story is something I've really grown to appreciate the more I experience it. Requires engagement with the player rather than just be told to you.
I'm always hoping for a new alan wake/control video and they are always amazing thank you
You got it! I'm glad I can deliver. Honestly, there is so much material with Alan Wake and Control I doubt I'll ever be done with them.
@@GamingUniversityUoG Please never be done with them.
Kidding, you can do what you want but I really do enjoy the Remedy content. It really gets me appreciating the games on another level.
The NSC may as well be a solar furnace.
All hints to a person which may have had attached onto their person a lot of unknown items, this then changed the state of human to something else.
The strongest known power is the sun as a thermal source which we, as humans, can perceive, yet the 'truest' and strongest form of power is inconceivable.
I think the strongest 'theoretical'power source we have now is Zero Point Energy. I haven't researched it much but I believe it is the potential energy between sub atomic particles.
For northmoor he became a vessel for too much paranatural energy. I'm just curious if it was because he bound too much, meaning this may happen to Jesse in the future, or if it was a specific OoP that caused this.
@@GamingUniversityUoG We may never know. It may be one.or several, but the point is, the body looks 'alive' still within the NSC and the prospect of a breach does suggest that it can move, especially since the first one happily destroyed in the Foundry Remnant sector.
In the end, their unlimited energy supply, as you have stated, opens them up with more budget and covers their building's (old house) power consumption.
The question now is, as the newest CEO, what 'unfortunate' thing must Jesse face, since another 'unfortunate' soul comes back to THEIR side of the world?
@@GamingUniversityUoG Come to think of it, during the Foundation DLC, didn't the Board give the reason for Jesse initially only recieving one of the crystal manipulation powers being along the lines of "Only one may be chosen/handled"? Makes you wonder if that decision was informed by Northmoor getting screwed up by going over his paranatural capacity so to speak. What's more, after the Former sneaks Jesse back in to acquire the second power, the Board sounds genuinely worried/frightened of what could happen if she didn't stop, then afterwards came across as embarrassed/relieved that nothing happened.
If I had to guess, Polaris is Jesse's Ace in the Hole for offloading paranatural energy safely without containing all of it inside her physical form. Makes me wonder what the Board's opinion on Polaris is, or if They're even aware of her existence given that They never mention Hadron or Polaris. At least, I don't think They do?
@@mrjacob7795 that is an interesting thought ngl.
@@ethanlackey8048 Thanks!
I get the feeling, mostly from the fact that the NSC's upper Terminal has a distinct warning for movement within the NSC that during "Normal" operation Northmoor is asleep, or more likely Unconscious, that part of keeping Northmoor "cool" is to keep him calm, Sedated.
This also ties into Jesse's bonding with Polaris protecting her from much of the negative Para-natural, as Jesse is recorded with much greater effect from Objects of Power then even Northmoor pre- Sarcophagus, as well as Altered Items (not considered bind-able) without the same abnormalities associated with Northmoor's Transformation.
Under "Normal" conditions, I doubt Northmoor is in any state fit to plan, to rage, or even think within the NSC... but it also says something that the NSC can keep a Resonance Based Lifeform out of Northmoor, especially since unless something else was exploding due to overload the only thing that could be making vibrations large enough to shake the Maintenance Sector after Jesse's repaired the coolant pumps but before repairing the converters is Northmoor, which suggests the NSC doesn't absorb vibrations.
I'd imagine the NSC has some sort of Black rock lining, which is why the Hiss is trying to physically break it open.
I can see the coolant pumps as a way to kind of cryogenically freeze him while he is inside. That would make the most sense to me. I like your idea.
Taking,l; "I am become death, destroy of world.", to a whole new level.
That it does.
Quite ironic how Northmoore's lust for power ultimately resulted in him being used for power.
An interesting way to put it
Completely missed the wreckage of NSC-01 when I played. That's so cool. It's interesting that the overuse/accumulation of OOP's can have such an effect on a human. I'm also curious how they managed to get Northmoor from NSC-01 into NSC-02 or how quickly they built it in response to the disappearance.
I never looked up there to see it
After some comments on this video I'm trying to decide whether ir was having too many bound to him or if one specific OoP had this effect that he couldn't control, leading to this issue.
And I'd like to know what happened when he first got out too. That would be a fun side story.
Everytime I pick up control again for a new playthrough you pop out a new video and I couldn't be happier 😁
Haha great to hear! Enjoy your next playthrough
The most underrated hidden gem. Thanks for another video!
It's my pleasure! Thank you for your kind words.
Maybe the board encouraged Northmoor to gather objects of power for the express purpose of providing the oldest house with power which makes you think what are they planning for Jessie?
They denied her an extra power, thinking she'd go mad. The former gave it to her and she is still much more balanced than northmoor
I think that the Board giving power to Northmoor is twofold. One it makes sure he remains devoted to them and won't do anything against them. But for the other one I won't say because it would spoil another video I'm working on.
@@GamingUniversityUoG agreed. After playing the foundation again, I've discovered more info about that being possible
Well damn now i want a DLC of Northmoor being released by the Hiss and everything going into chaos, all that only to be imprisoned at the end by Jesse creating NSC 03, could be a fun DLC.
No joke j would love to see Northmoor released in Control 2 by some cultish fanatics of his. Think that would be an awesome threat.
finally :) waiting to see more about Remedyverse, Thank you
You got it!
"You want the waves to take you away." Northmoor put too much power in thr skin suit. Must be careful about these things.
There is a reason that the Board referred to OoPs as 'Neighbors of the Beast' What does that mean about those linked to that energy?
@@GamingUniversityUoGwhen does the board refer to it as that. I thought it was just a darling joke
Outstanding work as usual, GU. Driven mad by power, he became power itself.
Very poetic way of putting it.
Please/command, ignore/forget this information for FBC/own safety
Always good to see Control content from you
I'm glad you enjoy them!
Always enjoy new videos from you! I had some slightly different interpretations and I wonder what you think:
- What if Northmoor was a willing participant in this containment scheme? In this scenario, Northmoor is aware of the catastrophic damage he can cause when uncontained. Trench commends him on going along with the first iteration of the NSC in the "Northmoor" hotline call. In this scenario, NSC-01 landing at the formation is, as far as FBC employees are concerned, an accident and merely the formation pulling an unusually large object to itself, rather than an escape attempt by the former director.
- I have the impression that I read about how other employees saw Northmoor as someone obsessed with power, always hungry for more. What if the collective thoughts of his colleagues eventually caused him to become an altered receptacle to the idea of something with great power--only not organizational but physical?
Oh absolutely. In one hotline, Tremch mentioned that Northmoor went along with the idea to house him there. But he did comment that, "...he didn't have a choice." My interpretation is that his excess energy outputs were becoming so out of control it would inevitably lead to his death. If this is the case his participation is more an act of self preservation. Decades of solitary confinement can do things to a persoms mind. There is even evidence on the infrared scans of him that he may have been corrupted by the Hiss but cannot get out of the chamber.
Remedy ought to give you a cut of all future sales because godamn. Your ability to dissect the topics is crazy
Oh jeez haha. I truly appreciate the idea there. We should make this happen! 😂
I have found something in control that I think is worth taking a look at. Just before the mail room that has the boss fight with the floating telekinetic hiss boss, if instead of going through the doors, you go up to the next floor there is a dry erase board with a whole story written on it. At the end, it seems that Dr. Darling does not know who wrote this, but has would like for them to meet in his office.
I'm surprised this little detail isn't talked about more. I've seen this one and have my own ideas about it. I'm piecing together a theory about it that will be released some time down the line.
I can't find it. Has it been erased ? what did it say ?
I finally 100%ed Control and found your channel by looking for more background lore. I just want to say: The quality of your videos is incredible. Thank you so much! I hope your channel will grow.
I'm glad you enjoyed the game! And thank you. It is good to know you enjoy these videos.
They use scranton reality anchors to hold him in place huh
I had to look this up. Figured it was an SCP reference. But yeah essentially
@@GamingUniversityUoG As Yahtzee said in his ZP episode on Control, "(Remedy) have stopped reading Stephen King for inspiration and started reading the SCP Wiki instead". :D
I'd never thought I'd enjoy a class on a Sunday! Excellent work, as always! Keep them coming! I will always show up!
Haha perfect attendance is appreciated! Yeah I got this one done early so I didn't want to keep anyone waiting.
First to say, thank you A LOT for your videos man!
After watching this and your other videos about Dr. Darling and his possible ascension to a higher plain of existence (due to his brain/perception/frequencies/resonance increase) I thought about an analogy about Northmoor temperature levels.
Due to the possibility that Northmoor bound many Objects of Power to himself, his frequencies/resonance began to increase.
This is similar to how modern CPUs with an increase in their performance (an increase in the number of GHz) begin to emit high temperatures and overheat.
Your observations and thought processes are just outstanding!
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
as much as i remember ... northmoor went on a voluntary exile ...he voluntarily caged himself in the NSC
Northmoor did go in willingly. But he also managed to break out because of some weird influence of the Jukebox
@@GamingUniversityUoG intrestingly, can u make a video about the formation and what it is .
And i didnt know that the jukebox's influence sent northmoor to the formation , cuz if it did it wont be indefinitely since the jukebox can only send someone there during the song is playing ..
Also the formation is a physical place, even tho inaccesible for us , directly..it is a physical place ...and the jukebox didnt create the formation ...it merely transports us there ... The blessed company who made the OOP ..knew abt this place..which means someone has accessed this place before the Oop was created... Which means this threshold has multiple access points...much like cauldron lake..that also explains how hiss reached there without the jukebox
Just commenting to let you know I really enjoy your video and always waiting for next one
I really appreciate it! I hope to have a new one out soon
I love it when one of these videos come out even knowing that each one means fewer in the future.
Honestly Remedy packs so many layers into their games that there should be enough content until the next one (hopefully).
@@brentlucke8713 I really really hope you're right.
I really appreciate that you enjoy them! I will for sure have plenty of content to last through the next Remedy title. Besides that I am working the kinks out on two projects for Control that take it in a completely different direction which will involve at least 2 dozen individual videos. So trust me I have plenty to work with.
@@GamingUniversityUoG That's great to hear. 😁
Gosh I love your content. So many things I completely missed or didn't pick up on when playing the game
And there is so much more to explore.
I can't believe I never went to the top of the NSC holy shit. how did I never even question what the acronym stood for?
I think I was too busy being mind fucked with the abstract concepts of the game and trying to find answers for it lol
I love how the answer to this one is right in our face and we still missed it for a while. Remedy is great at environmental storytelling.
An additional benefit to the Oldest House being energy-independent: in the case of a complete - or even partial - NYC grid failure (basically an inevitability), the FBC doesn't lose any active containment measures or access to crucial personnel or resources.
This blew my mind. How did I miss all of this!?
Instant like! NSC is one of my favorite things in Control. I remember when I first saw what NSC means, my face was literally O_O
P.S. I'm not in the discord so much anymore but I'm still watching new vids, you're epic as always :)
The reveal of the NSC in that one scene was crazy!
We all have busy lives so I understand fully. I'm glad to see you're still around!
Same, i stood for a few minutes looking at the screens. You can hear something banging inside periodically if you stay close, and use a good headset, gives me chills.
Y'know, When Agent Estevez mentions that the Oldest House had gone dark and thus lost communications with her in Alan Wake 2, I wonder if Northmoor escaping could've been the reason. Guess We'll find out in Control 2 eventually
That would be q cool detail if that's the case. Also wondering if they are simply referring to the Lake House station
It's likely that the Hiss invasion is currently underway. There's some time duckery going on here. Remember how the warning at the end of AWE was specifically mentioned to be occurring a few years from now?
Could you make a video about Jesse's monologue in the beginning of the game. I think there's much more meaning behind her words that has to be analyzed, especially the part with the worlds behind the poster.
Keep up the great work, I love your videos! 🔻
As far as I can tell the world behind the poster is referring to the weird world the Bureau Investigates. The Cell is the feeling of being trapped in a world that doesnt believe what she experienced was real. The poster being what distracts us from the knowledge of what lies under the surface.
That might be why the board was so against the former jesse getting the second power . Not only because the board has there own plans but because if she got to much power she would be way to powerful to deal with, becoming something else entirely.
Plus it let's her know she can get away with something when a supposedly powerful force tells her no. Makes us question if they truly have power over us
Another one and loved it ❤️
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Impressive! Never caught on to this in Control
There is so much the game doesn't touch upon unless we go looking for it. I love it.
Great vid! What I wonder is, how did the Northmoor end up in there? Was it a voluntary containment? Or did he get put in there by force? Is he sentient in there or is it just a mass of energy in the form of a former Director? If former, is it hell for him in there? So many ethical/emotional questions to explore.
It is implied that Trench gave him the proposition and didn't really give him the choice. He said, "Northmoor went along with it, not that he had a choice." I paraphrase from one hotline. All i can figure is it was a form of self preservation. He might have died if his excess energy outputs got out of control. This way he lived...if you can call that living.
Appreciate the content man, will you play returnal and do videos like these man has been reminding me of control a lot.
I have seen a lot of comments about Returnal in the last several days. Let's just say my newly built PC should be showing up soon so I'll have a lot more games open to me
One of my expedition missions glitched so I just started a new game to get 100% lol, perfect timing with this video coming on my second playthrough.
Ooph that sucks that it glitched. But it gives you the opportunity to play again! Enjoy your 2nd playthrough.
Subbed. Well done, sir. I hope you make some automata lore vids.
I have not played Nier at this time but I have a plan to play a bunch if new games soon which will bring this possi ability close to fruition. And thank you for the sub! I truly appreciate the support.
Northmoor actually went along with the NSC, I'm fairly certain the incident with NSC-01 was an accident on everyone's part (probably Northmoor dicking around with his powers when he thought wouldn't break anything.)
I wonder if Northmoor's overwhelming power would also include some sort of frequency cancelation that could ward off the hiss, like Polaris for Jesse? Either way, if he got out of the NSC there is the secondary matter of him causing a subnuclear detonation inside the bureau, breaking the buildings walls, and unleashing the hiss on whatever pocket of the world the oldest house may have travelled too.
Fyi bro when alan wake 2 comes out expect a huge rise in new viewers. This is litterally the only channel answering these questions in depth, and theorizing about the remedy verse. Keep it up and its almost a guarentee u will be a bigger channel.
Fyi love finding these smaller channels that are just a diamond in the rough. Quality stuff man
I would love a video explaind RETURNAL. Love the video 🥰
I have been seeing a lot about Returnal lately. Haven't played it yet but with a newly built PC shipping as we speak that may change soon.
A boss fight against northmoor would go so hard
I'm still holding out hope we will get one
Did we ever learn more about Chester Bless in the AWE expansion? That is honestly one of the best mysteries this game offers.
We do learn that the Bureau is investigating the Blessed Organization. It appears this Chester Bless is a pseudonym forbade member of the Para-Criminal organization.
Now just imagine how AWESOME it would be if we could fight this inhuman form of Northmoor in the next game to finally put him to rest, and save the Bureau from being destroyed.
I would love to see a Northmoor return. That would be an insane threat.
Yeah and then what are they going to use to power de oldest house? I mean I don't want to be insensitive but they're saving mad money with him lol
@@xSaintOfSinnersx
They would need to use the city eletric energy, but that would reveal the building to the people, and they would need to deal with public exposure that they didnt have before. Or we make a deal with the Extradimensional beings to provide a new source of energy.
I dont know, theres a lot it can be done.
@@saymyname2618 well, it's already mentioned that they don't like to draw attention and for the rest, yeah it's safer to get energy from another dimension, they should consider that.
@@xSaintOfSinnersx
Yes i know, and thats *exactly* why it would be interesting for the story if it happened, because is something that they are not prepared to deal with it.
I would love to see a mission or DLC in Control 2. Let's say the title is "A Director's Basic Duty." This is where Northmoor escapes again. Jesse would have to send Northmoor to a very cold or 100% water threshold. Or she cleanses the corrupted altered item he is bound to causing his energy output (not possible since this is pre-Hiss but I can dream.). This in turn drops a super heated never dying OOP. Noorthmoor is send to live the rest of his days under Bureau watch. Last scene, Ahti says, "the band around the pensioners head is gone. Assistant plays big heart ace and all cards safe, perkle."
Dude I seriously want to have a scenario when we have to finally deal with Northmoor
Ma maan! Keep it up!
Haha I'll always keep them coming.
Yes I love this. This is the great kinda weird that can only come from a game like this.
Well Jesse did warn us at the start this game was going to be weird lol
Don't know how late I am but I love the new channel icon.
Not too late lol. Only got updated a few weeks back. Rist from the Control community did the artwork herself. She is very talented.
This has been constantly troubling my mind, ever since I scaled the power plant that first time, and stumbling upon the topside monitoring station and seeing the status report on the red monitors: "NSC INTERNAL MOVEMENT DETECTED"...
The name of this structure is deceptive: It does not contain the deceased remains of Northmoor, seeing as he appears very much alive in there, and is CLEARLY being confined against his will. Looking at the heat signature surveillance monitors makes this painfully clear: He is strung up by his wrists into what must be a very uncomfortable kneeling pose. This is not a "Northmoor Sarcophagus Container", this is the "Northmoor Torture Chamber". As for the Bureau staff having no clue what is actually inside? They absolutely do know! But for obvious reasons, this is not something they are going to share the details on with Jesse.
Gonna split this into several comments btw. Got some dialogue transcrips to share for the next one.
Considering how EVERYTHING is classified under Trenchs command I can see how only senior staff or people who were working here 30 years before would know he was there.
Trench commented that Northmoor went along with it but it may have either been under duress or whatever. This feels like a plot thread that will be pulled sooner or later. Then we'll get more details.
My apologies! I could've SWORN I had posted about Emily comments last night. So sorry about that! Here it is:
At Crossroads, "Northmoor" is a dialogue option when conversing with Emily, during which she'll say:
"[...]Regardless, Northmoor was eventually forced to... Well, we don't need to get into that.[...]"
Riddle me this: Can you think of another exhange with Emily, where she has declined to ramble on about whatever? Cause I'm pretty sure that that has never ever happened before!
She then hesitantly adds that Northmoor and Trench both disappeared under "suspicious circumstances".
@@GamingUniversityUoG As for Trench saying it was voluntary confinement? I'm gonna have to call bullshit on that. The evidence suggests the exact opposite being true.
As for this being highly classified information? With that in mind, I do find it HILARIOUS that "NORTHMOOR SARCOPHAGUS CONTAINER" is written right on the outside of the structure, for everyone to see, and internal surveillance monitors are right underneath.
Sounds like an assclown thing to do if the topic matter is highly sensitive and classified.
@@Tumbledweeb here I come almost a year later to comment here lol.
Emily might knew about it because of her job and position, maybe she had to do something related to the NSC but I don't think it was of general knowledge since the information is very limited and a lot is classified.
Since there have been 2 NSC, maybe in the first containment it was somewhat voluntary. Maybe Trench convinced Northmoor that it was a temporary measure until they find how to deal with his overheating and after a while of seeing no progress, Northmoor got impatient and escaped, having as results the collapse of NSC 01. For NSC 02 I can't imagine how they put him in there and I don't think any personnel is able to read "Northmoor Sarcophagus Container" from that high and let alone have access to that part of the maintenance sector.
For monitoring, there maybe was a few selected personnel to that area, after all it's important to know what's going on there and they by force needed people to check on it
What if Northmoor is nice and helps us out? I know a big stretch but it would be a curveball.
I certainly hope at the very least that when we get to see him he is a more complicated character than simply power hungry.
Thanks/gratitude for/because the video/work.
It is my/GU absolute pleasure/enjoyment.
So the NSC is essentially a supernatural nuclear core. The FBC is sitting on a Chernobyl inspired power converter where the slightest mistake will set it off. If that's the case... Then wouldn't that blow up not only the oldest house, but the city? The coast?
Oldest House? Yes very likely it would be decimated. In terms of the City that is up for debate. One theory that FBC has about where exactly the House is mentions that it may not exist on Earth. That our reality is just a threshold connected to the House. If the threshold isn't open then the blast would be contained. Again that is only is that theory is true.
Whatever the board are/is they seemed to try and elevate themselves to the kinds of being that Polaris/Hedron and the Hiss are. But they lack the ability to fully take over someone like the Hiss can. The board can bind themselves to items and through those items communicate. Northmoor looks like an experiment into that avenue that went wrong. The board must be going crazy to not be able to skip the middle man like Resonance based lifeforms can, to not be able to exist in the material plane to affect it like they clearly want. The board uses inorganic tethers to exist and Polaris/Hedron and the Hiss use organic tethers.
Perhaps a video on the quarry AWE (and by extension the formation)
I'll have to think about what to discuss on it specifically.
Northmoore looks like Henry Kim from Quantum Brake.
everytime I watch one of your Control videos I wonder how this channel has only 7K followers :(
Haha I appreciate it. We are moving on up though. Frankly this is more than I expected when I started off.
I think it says a lot that after reading they use him for energy my first thought after that’s disturbing is that won’t he die eventually? So that’s not a lot of foresight on the FBC’s part. I wonder if he’ll explode when he dies? He’s got to be pretty old by now. Just a few more decades maybe. I’d say the new and improved FBC under Jesse could try to get him out and use an alternative power source, if they find a way to neutralize the danger anyway. Course it’d be cooler to fight him.
Him breaking free would be an awesome side quest or dlc.
Makes me wonder if a certain one eyed bug could detangle him from those objects of power
"I know first hand the cost of sloppiness" -Trench
I wonder if it was that incident he was referring to?
I think it is this situation, the event where he, "took work home with him," which led to his daughters death. A lot of different things. I'm curious what exactly he took home. Whether it was an accident or what.
I imagine in the future remedy games, there will be a boss fight against Northmoor.
I really hope we get to see him escape at some point.
My Control 2 theory is that Northmoor will be the primary antagonist.
So what you're saying is that if the excess energy isn't siphoned off him he would end up going full akria...
Yes, with far more fire and brimstone.
I feel that is the most plausible thing that would happen if his excess energy wasnt... Controlled.
The moral is don't go around town bonding to any old OoP.
And be hesitant about accepting power when you dont know what strings are attached.
can you tell please what is resonance in control world?
Physical vibration at a tuned frequency, hedron has a frequency and has tuned Jesse to match and amplify hers. The hiss has a different one and has tuned all the corrupted to match and amplify theirs. You can see a large tuning fork in the world that hedron comes from near all the red sand
Resonance in the context of Control is really a type of entity without a body that exists as a wavelength. Waves of intention. Like a radio wave but with it's own independent mind. We wall through these types of unseen waves every day. Radio, wifi, cell phone waves, etc. In Control they assume these can influence people directly and have their own will.
Wait, so he held too many OOPS on his person and that's what caused his change???
god i hope they at least gave him a TV or something in there
Sadly all they gave him was a Scrabble board to play words with himself.
Seemed like a joke to me. "Spinning in his grave...."
It happens on occasion lol
The Lore of Control is ridiculous
So true. There is always something new to find.
Seriously why does anyone work in the bureau I would have noped out of their ages ago
Because they have a better health care plan than the post office
I am shocked I thought Northmor has vanished but he lives in NSC? He is a generator or something and heating?
High body temperature is dangerous well it is the dirtiest thing in that game I assume.
@Gaming University So northmoore was kept locked in there huh?? This is a bit confusing, ik the hiss was controlling everyone and was killing people with hra's but i still dont understand. When jesse was talking to dylan and was suddenly talking to polaris dylan/hiss, was extremely pissed to see polaris. This gets me thinking, if the hiss was unable to corrupt polaris/Jesse and already had full control of Dylan, why didnt they use dylan as a weapon against jesse?? The board was trying to regain control of certain o.o.p's and altered items from the hiss but failed so, why didnt the hiss use those to kill jesse?? The hiss had everything under their control and yet, they still lost. If the hiss wanted northmoore free, why didnt they try with more force?? Also, how is ahti the only person who doesnt have a HRA on not effected by the hiss?? Is he some kind of threat to the hiss that the hiss wont take control of him??
Because if Dylan attacked her right there it would have been a stalemate. By manipulating her instead Jesse removed the large HRA and allowed Hedron to be destroyed. We have no clue how the NSC is protected or what technology went into it. So really the answer to your question is a big ???
@@GamingUniversityUoG damn, i lowkey wanted to see a fight between jesse and dylan
Was it ever explained exactly how they subdued Northmoore the first two times?
It is somewhat states by trenches that Northmoor kind of accepted it. Said, "...he went along with it, to his credit." Second time was probably more of a fight.
1:30 - Can't "pensioner" just mean "old person" in English?
That's at least how it is in Swedish, one of the official language in Finland, Ati's homeland
Can't it be that Ati (or the writer) just mean "the oldie inside"?
I guess that is possible from a certain standpoint. In english or use it to refer to someone who collects a pension. But in the end both do refer to older individuals. So I guess it's semantical
But .. isn't he dead .. ? I am confused ..
do we assume, he is alive?
I thought he just have abnormal powers that didn't die with him .. and therefore the plant was made.
He is very much alive. Ahti mentions that he is starting to feel the strain when the pumps and converters were damaged. Documents also mention movement inside.
is there any proof that northmoor is still alive inside the nsc?
There is live infrared feed of him inside it currently. His poses keep changing so we know he is moving. Either way I imagine if he was dead by now the plant would have stopped working since it has nothing to draw from.
but did the hiss get him? :v
No clue. I certainly hope not.
Looks like someone/the meddler dived too deep/listened too closely, with the sins/transgressions coming back to haunt/bite in the ass him.
Not sure if it’s mentioned before as I haven’t read enough but just wanted to vent this idea
What if “the Former” is the Former Director as in Northmore.
The board doesn’t like the former and in the document Northmore says that “the board knows what he had become”
Just my two cents
And sorry if this is already a know fact but I haven’t heard it yet in the videos I have watched and stuff I have read :)
At this point in time Northmoor is still alive and in the NSC. Former has a history dating back to Ash Jr. at the very least. Definitely' the former used to be part of the board. My hypothesis is it was kicked out for talking to Ash.
@@GamingUniversityUoG ahh oke thx for the clarification 😄
Anyone else playing Returnal right now simply because it looked similar to Control in the trailers? lmao
I keep hearing about Returnal this past week. I haven't played it but soon enough I'll have an announcement relating to it.
@@GamingUniversityUoG It’s an EXTREMELY difficult game but I absolutely love the world. It’s like Control combined with the Alien franchise.
I feel like I missed all these little details on my first play through
And there are so many little details that we still haven't found. This game is nuts.
Science is application of inductive logic. So possessions etc etc etc are not against science and if evidence suggests they exist even if they can not be understood yet there is no reason to disregard them especially if they are useful even if a proper model has not been Created. IRL general relativity and quantum physics do not match each other yet both are used.