Maxwell Kaye There are huge differences which are very obviously evident: Beethoven’s trios were written for later pianos and using a very much more modern keyboard technique; the trios were almost chamber symphonies rather than divertimenti; the demands on the players far greater and more evenly spread. Haydn’s trios were largely written for very specific London commissions as sonatas for piano with violin accompaniment with the cello essentially used for textual sonority and reinforcing the bass; those of Mozart are closer to Beethoven and the Viennese market.
@@elaineblackhurst1509I only heard a Haydn Trio for the first time today (No 29). And was very surprised at how good it was, and original too. Especially the finale sounded very much like early Beethoven. I wasn’t expecting that at all, having heard how much better and more advanced Beethoven was, and how foolish Haydn had been to cast aspersions on the younger composer’s early attempts at Trio writing.
Als ich diese Aufnahme hörte, habe ich mich echt geniert. Vor wenigen Wochen habe ich das mit Streichern gespielt, alles Amateure. Und ich musste vom Blatt spielen. Die Noten hatte der Geiger mitgebracht. Es war nett und daher habe ich im Internet gesucht und diese Aufnahme gefunden. Daraufhin habe ich mir sofort die Noten bestellt und bin extra in die Innenstadt gefahren, um sie abzuholen. Beim Üben (Klavier) habe ich dann festgestellt, dass die Klavierstimme keinesfalls trivial ist. Immer wieder höre ich mir jetzt diese Aufnahme an, um letzte Feinheiten zu entdecken. Ich freue mich schon auf das nächste Zusammenspiel mit meinen Partnern. Langer Rede, kurzer Sinn. Diese Aufnahme ist inspirierend. Die Streicherstimmen habe ich im Ohr, wenn ich den Klavierpart spiele. Wenn man bedenkt, dass die Opusnummer 1/1 ist, dann könnte man an eine Opernoverture erinnert werden, in welcher schon alles spätere Geschehen angedeutet wird. Und richtig leicht ist der Klavierpart ja auch nicht, wenn man ihn so wie Hoppe spielen will. Ein großes Dankeschön an das ATO -Trio, die wirklich "musizieren". (Anmerkung: schön wäre es, einmal an Stelle von Herrn Hoppe zu sitzen :) )
Und Beethovens zeitweiliger Lehrer, kein geringerer als Joseph Haydn, war bei der Uraufführung dieses op. 1 im Hause Lichnowsky anwesend. Was mag ihm durch den Kopf gegangen sein?
Three world class musicians... and the sum of the parts is greater than the three of them combined. That is not only great chamber music, it's also what makes the ATOS Trio so tremendous in my opinion.
Now this I what I call making music. Absolutely superb performance of this trio. They also bring out something you don't often hear: Beethoven's refinement and lyricism, even in the Presto finale. Beethoven isn't just some pair of old hobnailed boots... and he loves pianissimo just as much as he loves fortissimo - as these players remind us. Bravi!!
I agree, I find the best performances of Beethoven combines extremes; almost pristine precision for the quieter and melodic parts, but extreme passion that's even a little "sloppy" for the fortissimo parts. When a performer can balance those perfectly, I think we are able to appreciate the music better and understand the tortured soul of Beethoven
Very very good playing by all three! What a tone produced by the Violinist and the cellist! Great Music by the great composer Beethoven! Thank God for sending such a great person in this world to enrich our lives! Bravo!!!
Have loved the Beethoven Opus 1 Trios on CD for many, many years. Thank you; thank you for making them available in these 3 excellent videos. Beautiful playing. Bravo! Bravo!
Played this Many years ago as a freshman in college, the violin part, that is, and it was one of the highlights of the year for me! Now that I'm nearing 70, would like to try it again May no longer have the same spunk but non-the-less would love to attempt it!
Thomas Hoppe, Annette von Hehn und Stefan Heinemeyer erobern gemeinsam seit 2003 weltweit die großen Konzertreihen. Rund um den Globus wird das ATOS Trio vom Publikum bejubelt und von der Kritik gefeiert.
IN this first publication of Beethoven, all questions reled to dependence/:independence of strings versus piano are clearly identified. There is a major difference with Haydn's trios, which had a quite other objective.
absolutely marvellous detailed, well-thought out performance.. very grateful to the recording team for ensuring such perfect balance between instruments and giving us transparency that enables enjoyment of nuanced playing... THANK YOU for sharing this performance.
Observation: composer comparisons that do not identify musical borrowings, influence, etc. are by nature specious. These are not musicians competing for any laurels. And the performers are often magnificent crafts-people that seek to enlighten listeners. One is constantly amazed that the majority of commenters believe in my team vs. their team. There are also writers here that will distinctly enrich your understanding. Try to be the latter.
Sound is lovely, but the HD video is overexposed, until for no particular reason the background suddenly turns blue, the automatic camera aperture must close slightly and the skin of the attractive violinist becomes almost the correct colour. The overhead spotlight seems too strong and should have been toned down. But ah! The music is sublime.
The young Beethoven's music was like Mozart's with a touch of Sriracha.
Are you implying that Beethoven liked to Thai one on?
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Bad pun alert.
@@urmorph this is so bad and good at the same time
@@urmorph Very witty.
Beethoven's first published work but already we can hear a great new musical presence.
Opus 1 is easily the greatest "I'm here, bitches" in Classical music.
You can already hear a clear difference between this and the style of Mozart's piano trios.
This actually wasn't Beethoven's first published work, he just thought it sounded so good he would make it Opus 1 No.1 :)
Maxwell Kaye
There are huge differences which are very obviously evident:
Beethoven’s trios were written for later pianos and using a very much more modern keyboard technique;
the trios were almost chamber symphonies rather than divertimenti;
the demands on the players far greater and more evenly spread.
Haydn’s trios were largely written for very specific London commissions as sonatas for piano with violin accompaniment with the cello essentially used for textual sonority and reinforcing the bass; those of Mozart are closer to Beethoven and the Viennese market.
@@elaineblackhurst1509I only heard a Haydn Trio for the first time today (No 29). And was very surprised at how good it was, and original too. Especially the finale sounded very much like early Beethoven. I wasn’t expecting that at all, having heard how much better and more advanced Beethoven was, and how foolish Haydn had been to cast aspersions on the younger composer’s early attempts at Trio writing.
Als ich diese Aufnahme hörte, habe ich mich echt geniert. Vor wenigen Wochen habe ich das mit Streichern gespielt, alles Amateure. Und ich musste vom Blatt spielen. Die Noten hatte der Geiger mitgebracht. Es war nett und daher habe ich im Internet gesucht und diese Aufnahme gefunden. Daraufhin habe ich mir sofort die Noten bestellt und bin extra in die Innenstadt gefahren, um sie abzuholen. Beim Üben (Klavier) habe ich dann festgestellt, dass die Klavierstimme keinesfalls trivial ist.
Immer wieder höre ich mir jetzt diese Aufnahme an, um letzte Feinheiten zu entdecken. Ich freue mich schon auf das nächste Zusammenspiel mit meinen Partnern.
Langer Rede, kurzer Sinn. Diese Aufnahme ist inspirierend. Die Streicherstimmen habe ich im Ohr, wenn ich den Klavierpart spiele.
Wenn man bedenkt, dass die Opusnummer 1/1 ist, dann könnte man an eine Opernoverture erinnert werden, in welcher schon alles spätere Geschehen angedeutet wird.
Und richtig leicht ist der Klavierpart ja auch nicht, wenn man ihn so wie Hoppe spielen will.
Ein großes Dankeschön an das ATO -Trio, die wirklich "musizieren".
(Anmerkung: schön wäre es, einmal an Stelle von Herrn Hoppe zu sitzen :) )
Und Beethovens zeitweiliger Lehrer, kein geringerer als Joseph Haydn, war bei der Uraufführung dieses op. 1 im Hause Lichnowsky anwesend. Was mag ihm durch den Kopf gegangen sein?
Three world class musicians... and the sum of the parts is greater than the three of them combined. That is not only great chamber music, it's also what makes the ATOS Trio so tremendous in my opinion.
Now this I what I call making music. Absolutely superb performance of this trio. They also bring out something you don't often hear: Beethoven's refinement and lyricism, even in the Presto finale. Beethoven isn't just some pair of old hobnailed boots... and he loves pianissimo just as much as he loves fortissimo - as these players remind us. Bravi!!
I agree, I find the best performances of Beethoven combines extremes; almost pristine precision for the quieter and melodic parts, but extreme passion that's even a little "sloppy" for the fortissimo parts. When a performer can balance those perfectly, I think we are able to appreciate the music better and understand the tortured soul of Beethoven
Three warm and relaxed friends having a fabulous, animated at times, but always polite conversation.
Very very good playing by all three! What a tone produced by the Violinist and the cellist! Great Music by the great composer Beethoven! Thank God for sending such a great person in this world to enrich our lives! Bravo!!!
Hervorragend !
Have loved the Beethoven Opus 1 Trios on CD for many, many years. Thank you; thank you for making them available in these 3 excellent videos. Beautiful playing. Bravo! Bravo!
Richard Yiengst 0
Played this Many years ago as a freshman in college, the violin part, that is, and it was one of the highlights of the year for me! Now that I'm nearing 70, would like to try it again May no longer have the same spunk but non-the-less would love to attempt it!
Go for it! I would say if you don't have the same spunk, then force it out of you. It might be sleeping, but I'm sure it's still in there somewhere!
@@souio Practice!
Exquisite musicianship, superb ensemble work and balance...and no prima donnas
Thomas Hoppe, Annette von Hehn und Stefan Heinemeyer erobern gemeinsam seit 2003 weltweit die großen Konzertreihen. Rund um den Globus wird das ATOS Trio vom Publikum bejubelt und von der Kritik gefeiert.
What performers!They go from delicate, to crazy, witty, impulsive-sounding, graceful, virtuosic! And what a great first trio.
Wonderful trio, amazing performance 👏 ❤ thank you very much.
Magnifique interprétation. Nous attendons avec impatience les autres Trios!
IN this first publication of Beethoven, all questions reled to dependence/:independence of strings versus piano are clearly identified. There is a major difference with Haydn's trios, which had a quite other objective.
Happy to have found this trio! you're great!!
Thank you very much for uploading this wonderful work. It´s so generous of you!
absolutely marvellous detailed, well-thought out performance..
very grateful to the recording team for ensuring such perfect balance between instruments
and giving us transparency that enables enjoyment of nuanced playing...
THANK YOU for sharing this performance.
I love the name "home haven."!
A bit about yourselves would not be considered excessive vanity. Names would be a good start. Herr Weigle does a fine job.
Excellent, beautiful performance!
der Uraufführung von op. 1 im August 1795 wohnte Beethovens Lehrer Joseph Haydn bei...
Observation: composer comparisons that do not identify musical borrowings, influence, etc. are by nature specious. These are not musicians competing for any laurels. And the performers are often magnificent crafts-people that seek to enlighten listeners. One is constantly amazed that the majority of commenters believe in my team vs. their team. There are also writers here that will distinctly enrich your understanding. Try to be the latter.
Wonderful!!
Great sound
Sublime.. Bravo!
Maravilloso !
Sound is lovely, but the HD video is overexposed, until for no particular reason the background suddenly turns blue, the automatic camera aperture must close slightly and the skin of the attractive violinist becomes almost the correct colour. The overhead spotlight seems too strong and should have been toned down. But ah! The music is sublime.
Very good.
Der Konzert am Donnerstag war sehr Wunderschön !
Too few likes for this. You cared for it gently.
the start of a great career...ha
Wack
Hell's bells. They're letting Scousers post things on RUclips now. Whatever next? 😅 Orright wack?