yesterday i respected Bonnieb and Ashely intelligence in their response, even in the court of law there were going to win this case,people should know this is a reality tv show not a rehabilitation center
Exactly, and people react differently to things. I don’t think KB should have expected to get the “ warmth” from all the ladies as she put it, since she has never shared her trauma with the people close to her in her outside life. And she decided to share it with strangers! Maybe the 2M gave her motivation to share, coz this is a game after all and viewers like to pity vote.
@@SiphokaziMabuto you don't share such sensitive information with strangers who are not professionals, that was dumb of her, now the poor ladies are expected to be expelled or disqualified
@@SiphokaziMabuto Exactly!!! Kayb is using her unfortunate trauma to play into the emotions of the housemates so she won't be nominated and she is also investing into the emotional banks of the viewers to keep her in the game and possibly win the show
Hi Glory you are spot on about KayB Whilst the Hoh was reading the second punishment she was clapping.She feels.so proud that ash and.bonnie b were banned to the water room.msini was going on about ashley this ashley that.i felt that should have adress her role in the whole unpleasant episode.Now she portrays herself as an angel In fact most of the housemates were smiling.Most of them want the real umlilo actors out.Many are just cruising and enjoying the predicament of the two girls.How many people in that house are their judges.😢😢 so sad.
@@piscesbabyyy7305Okay u are right but d calling out wasn't done fairly, Kay B is among the housemates that needed to be call out cos Kay B from day 2 in biggie house she builled Nusku and even in 5days she was using vile words at Nusku and Bonnie B. Yes Bonnie B saying she will use her past story against her is very wrong and evil to even think like that but guess what no one can control how people react when u look for that person trouble cos Kay B look for Bonnie B trouble Kay B is one housemate that insert herself in other housemates fight looking for trouble when is not her fight so because she told a sad story housemates should walk on egg shell around her. To me Kay B is not d only one that have had a sad story so why will she always insert herself in others fight and if the housemates throw insult in defending or fighting back with her sad story then that housemates is d worst housemates that double standard to me. Yes if u blame Bonnie B for saying she will use her story against her which she hasn't done also blame Kay B that has already use vile words to Bonnie B and Nusku while bullying them too. So yes biggie verdict is okay but is incomplete..for Ashely she is wrong calling Kay B that R--P girl that was so insensitive of her to call Kay B that. Ashley is actually angry at KayB all because Kay B gave Sweet Guvava spoon in the spoon game so is appropriate for her to apologize which she did, it might a real or fake but she apologize. Bonnie B not apologizing immediately can't be considered as she is mean no viewers need to know that if Bonnie B apologize immediately after Ashley without been sincere then d apology is of no use..d same viewers are dragging Ashely for her apology been fake.
I just love your emotional intelligence Gloria and how you see through the bullshit, I honestly enjoy your reviews more than the show itself, you're the best.
Let us be true she is not honest she was doing to pass the stage.. cause when she wascoutside she said something deferrent. She was not supposed to appologise at that time until everybody has settle with the issues. For me it was just.
ASHLEY miss know it all..Her apologies was not sincere.😮PERIOD. Anything trigger that rude lady once again from the same Housemates or others. She'll be back on the battle field. She is continuously in a fight spirit. 😉
Yes Glory this is SA One started the conversation and immediately they make that person the leader and run after her They cant think for themselves Just want to be heard
Then why just ashley and bonnie What about that click that scam and plan others downfall Look at them too the little angels that do as they please very proud of themselves
When you forgive you are setting the prisoner free and realising the prisoner is actually yourself. Forgiveness is a decision it’s not how you feel but for your own good and peace of mind. Ashley am proud of you it takes humility to apologise ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Rape and racism ate big issue in SA. These organizations put pressure on Biggie and the gorvement. We have too many rights here. Hope people will understand. People waited for biggie to take actions by disqualifying them even if he didnt want to do it. It's tough here. Men in the house dont even know how to approach ladies even If they are wrong. Hence they always have men's conferences, to remind each other of handling some situations. Bonnie is going to apologize today.
@@MampotsaRantsatsihai mahn there are organization that deal with those issues, big brother show is not that organization centre for abuse is a reality tv show why did kb bring that story to a show, we are not stupid that girl want pity votes n it's working.
Bonnie is the bully, and when people bite back, she cries bullying. Both girls were not provoked when they made those statements. Kayb gave Sweet Guluva a spoon and sat next to him. How is that provocation that warrants the weaponization of rape? equally, Bonnie, when she made the initial statement, it was day two or three before the task presentation. What did Kayb say or do in those two days that warranted that retaliation? They are crying bullying to avoid accountability for their vile behaviour.
Many past BBM contestants have shared their stories of sexual abuse; no one weaponised it in fights (so the whole retaliation-because-we-are-in-a-confined-space excuse is nonsense); why should her story be weaponised? Kayb may have seen previous seasons and been encouraged to speak out on the BBM platform to inspire given the GBV crisis in our country, and if you watched her presentation, you would see that the aim was to empower through her speech; she literally said, If I can overcome and be on Big Brother, so can you (referring to viewers who may have the same trauma). Why should the likes of Bonnie be allowed to share their stories without having to consider the negatives? Bonnie was also crying, sharing the story of her sister during the same task; it's basic human decency not to weaponise trauma. Bonnie has insulted many people, yet no one used her sister's death to hurt her.
They are not cruel at all. Rape can happen to anyone whether you were long or short dresses. Do they deserve to go home because of what they have said? No, but they need to know what they have said is not ok. I don't care what KayB has done to them, you can't stoop that low.
Glory, maybe you don't understand rape, how it leaves you, even if it is your boyfriend when he sleeps with you without your consent. Also remember BB rape issue has cost the viewers. No one can justify what those 2 done to KB. From Ashley point of view that apology is not genuine, that woman is horrible. No one invites Rape. Maybe other people will understand something when it happens to you. Kb is not a bad girl as you draw her, she is one of them who are also rough in their own ways. Put Nate & Nsuku both mysterious characters but other one is uncouth and the other not.
Bonnie should not apologize kayb should go and apologize to nsuku this kayb said that story so that someone will say it then she will cry so that people will vote for her when she is up i have clocked her game
yoh! Several past BBM contestants have shared their rape/GBV stories in the first week, and no one dragged it; no one voted for them based on that. Bonnie and Ashley are the ones responsible for it dragging; if Kayb gets pity votes, it's because of both of them.
It's not that Kay B is a saint but as for Bonnie Bee ,that one is totally wrong ,she is not showing any remorse .You can't say Joke about rape especially as a woman and in this society.
Get over yourself, Kayb is not the first nor will she be the first to go through rape, she knows you viewers are gullible, no wonder the you guys were blindly following Women4Change petition against Chris Brown's performance.
You can not expect us to pitty you while your strategy is to plays with boys, she even called them "victims" in the diary room. Mna andizi, I am not falling for that ish
As for Ashley I understand that girl at first I thought that she is just not nice but hey after yesterday .I'm starting to like her ..as for Bonnie that girl is iyoo
I wonder the kind of society in which we live in. I don’t get it when people are saying the kb’s actions and inactions caused it. So is it right if someone provokes you and the person is disable you will use that disability to insult and ridicule the person. We should learn to watch our words in all situations
What I have noted is that people like to make 2 issues that have the same headline but are not totally the same into the same thing and expect the same results
I totally agree with you Glory & Ashley 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 for asking Kay B that question. I think she's using that story as her strategy. Did you see her with Swiss? as she was trying to make Savage jealous
What these ladies have said is not excusable. I don't care what KayB did to them, you can't stoop that low. You don't want that karma as what happened to KayB may happen to anyone. I am not saying they should be disqualified but we can't make excuses for them either.
Thank you! I don't understand the argument that they were fighting back because Kayb did some things; it doesn't warrant the weaponisation of rape. there is no excuse for that behaviour
Rape and discrimination we don’t take it lightly glory if kayB should have been equally punished that’s on biggie he should have done dat but these 2 topics are Sensitive to us we deal with them on a daily basis!!! It takes you to live in South African society to understand why it’s like dat
Why should someone’s first thought be she’s acting. Can we leave the game out of this for a minute even if she was acting our firs response it to have sympathy and show empathy to KayB.
Just bcz this season’s theme is umlilo (fire) doesn’t mean we should be insensitive mybe we’re not ready for Big Brother and all it’s Violence I’m not even a KayB fan but I’m not the one to encourage rubbing salt on her wounds if it’s lies or acting that’s on her!!
I'm a South African, but l couldn't agree with you more. Most of us have fragile egos and expect everybody to be the same. And we like to be pampered even by our enemies. We're so unbelievable!
Do you want to tell me that KB giving Guluva a spoon is equivalent to Ashley calling her "That rape girl" because I don't remember KB having an altercation with Ashley. I don't care how much people try to justify Ashley and Bonnie B's behavior, rape is rape from all angles. If you have never experienced rape you will never understand. I was raped twice too and my after reaction was being rebellious in my teen years and drank like a fish. In this instance big brother was specifically addressing sexual harassment, if a turn comes to address the bullying then let big brother call KB to order.
Eish and people they totally tailoring away the insults she poured unto Ntsuku 'KB' that is..these were really bad coz i do understand both languages..she kept repeating "otla nnyela loud"no excuses for her behaviour at all
Glory please can we have a live on Mondays or Wednesdays like you did before? By the time Saturday comes we have forgotten some of our talking points and given the heat of this show, we are sure Sundays will be very eventful.
KB does not represent every 🍇 victim. Victims of 🍇 often recognise the sensitivity of their encounter and choose an appropriate setting to open up. Such settings provide support, guidance and counselling to victims and also privacy due to the sensitivity of the issue. Fact is BBM is not a support group or counselling centre. Like i said KB doesnt represents every 🍇 victim. Her actions and behavior in the house might have irked Ashley and Bonnie b involuntarily removing any empathy and sensitivity they would have had for her. No ones feelings towards a sitiuation should be dictated‼️
Ashley's apology was not genuine. She felt like she had to do it because she clocked that viewers might not be happy with her. How can you call someone the rape girl. If you listen to how she spoke with sweet guluva, she didnt not forget kay b's name she just branded her with that name and was laughing before and after saying it.
Rape girl imagine … and what other ppl don’t understand is it’s normal for even ppl of different color than us call us anything they remember us of instead of our names… that was just too much
Bonni B is simply being bullied into apologising and she shouldn't. KayB's prurient behaviour suggests otherwise. SA viewers always quick to threaten multichoice, perhaps bigbrother should entirely be banned from the country seeing they are still healing
If it’s about bully in the house, I guess most of them are bullies. They do it to each other which isn’t a good thing at all. But R*** is really a sensitive topic and we need to understand that in South Africa a lot of people go through it which makes it even more sensitive and that’s why the viewers are really upset about it.. We can’t use the same perspective for Bbnaija for BbMzansi
People should stop dragging Bonnie B. She will apologise at her own convenient time. She and Ashley are giving us content and we need these types of people to make the show interesting
They giving content on a certain level . That's the game. 🎉 Sometimes there content is no more. Then it's getting to a point of personal. So we don't need to say certian house mates is the content of the game. Because of being loud and rude. The quite and mind there business also give viewers content. MCJunior great example. Weird in so many ways to the viewers and housemates. End of day won the game with flying colours too. Years back Nkosi and Ace...Walk away with the Grand Price. 😊Not always the the loud and not being yourself that stand out inBB house .. Xx
@berniewilliams3254 this is a reality TV show where you don't fake your attitude because you want to satisfy some people. Whether you are loud, rude or quiet, what matters is for you to be yourself and be entertaining. But some set of audience want housemates to be quiet, gentle, and not rude. A reality show is for you to be entertaining regardless of your attitude
I think it is stanship… people who stan for other housemates and who feel the strength of either Ashly or Bonnie feel they should be removed, not only because of what they did but because Those 2 are in the way of their own fav to become winners at the end of the show… For some its immaturity but for some its just strategic… The game is inside and outside. Some strong fanbase can be shaken by this as well and move with the flow as well 😅 Manipulation inside and outside… can we talk also about how KB will use this opportunity?
Bonnie Bee in the videos repeatedly said SHE SYMPATHIZES with the situation but she doesn't agree with the certain parts.I classify that as normal gossip,although the subject is sensitive,Bonnie B has a strong character but this is big brother,when you go there you expect thos type of things.I agree with Gloria Elijah that we turn a blind eye and choose only certain things.
Big ups for Ashey to show remorse and apologizing and agree that she was wrong and trying to work on herself as for Bonnie Nsuku and Martha i rest my case these girls are really mean
Madam Glory mark this date...this might play in kayb side based on pity votes to win or Ashley's win because people has started liking her more for apologizing...u should understand human sentiments and emotions when it comes Big brother shows
14:22 Theres a huge difference Glory, when Mandy was confronting Nsuku, she was not saying anything derogatory, or defamatory, nor being racist. You can't compare Ashley's situation to Mandy's, theres huge difference. It can't be double standards.
Gloria I fully agree with you 💯 in this KB is not an angel she might be a victim thi time but not completely even Moshin she called Ashly a monkey but we move I am not condone what this 2 girls did but they don't ben disqualifie d Bigbrother verdict was fine they needed to learn a lesson a bit
What I've realised with this season's viewers is that they are immature and its frustrating to even experience. I think maybe I've outgrown Big Brother, I'm 35.
Honestly, everything about this show baffles me. Especially the way these viewers somehow gloss over certain issues and focus more on one, like they don't have a mind of their own or something
Some times yes u wld want one to be disqualified but no that isn't the best way south Africa this thing of u wanting a housemate to get disqualified is irritating they shld stop
I think its okay to have a difference of opinions, its bound to happen. We as people are different, we come from different backgrounds with different experiences that shapes our perspectives Bonny B may not be my favorite housemate but im glad she did not have to leave the house on such a bad note. Hopefully this gives her a chance to rectify he wrongs and perhaps going forward the manner of appropriate and overall attitude amongst housemates improves. Because clearly things were getting out of control
What I've realized is that production of the show is also playing the game. What a f**k did we see in the clips, why did they cut other things. They should just play the whole thing
But is she really remorseful? And I also understand her apologizing immediately after she was outed would just seem like she's doing it just for the matter to die down.
But wait ohhhh y'all, let's be logical. Bonnie B just said she's going to use the rape stuff against her right? Have she actually done that? What's wrong with people
Dont message BULL CRAB S - AFRICANS not ready to watch BB MAZANSI...Were did the show end few years back? Because of these type of shit going on in that house. Was RAPE you name it. So ppl Stop condoning wrong things. House mates are RUDE and PERSONAL. Show or not.
90% of that persons dont watch the show but read about it and shour guilty Go and ask them why they will tell you everyone say it so they cant be wrong
Thank god they were given second chance cause Bonnie and Ashley they bring fire in the house as for KB she is the one who is provoking Bonnie i wish big brother give a strike cause she is not innocent too
The both ladies handled their issues with the peculiarities it came with. Bonniebee going over their to apologize at that moment would have gone either way. Imagine Mandy Hagan interjecting while Bonniebee is apologizing like she did when Ashley was apologizing, it would’ve blown up into something else potentially. Mind you, Bonniebee needs to think of a good way to get through to Kaybee for that apology to be honest
Smh that was not a slip of the tongue. She mentioned it three times with Sweet G at a point where he didn’t hear her, and she repeated herself. I can’t believe humans are okay with someone planning to attack someone and saying, “Are you crying because you got graped?” I wish this happened in the U.S. Both of them would be Canceled.
Bonnie said she will apologize but not now cos she's still crying she will go let her calm down but KB must not see this as her revenge towards Bonnie abut her and savage
TBH.. the strike and punishment was fair but we all know this is what Kay bee wanted when she shared the story.. well she is winning... It's all a game at the end
Faults and toxic traits aside I actually want both Bonnie and ashley to go far in the competition. The house will be very quiet and dull if they were to be evicted I hope people are voting heavily for Bonnie. I do t even watch the show but these girls are all over my timeline.. The fact that they can get people to talk for so long is testament to what kind of star power they have. BOTH of them and what I like they are not fake. I feel they are themselves toxiness aside
Gloria I love you so much but the problem here in SA is rape.The are people who still doesn't want to open up about the situations because of people like Bonnie and Ashley. People I want you to remember most victims of rape they have this tendency of pretending to be strong and it takes a long time for them to show the signs. Women if you don't have experience of KB is facing
Not defending anyone the way KayB move i think Big brother must make sure the KayB story is true, i say this because i m also a victim of rape, yes I'm healed but I can tell you the is something off in her behavior. Maybe Big brother needs to organize some sort of counseling my opinion.
Biggie and the BIG Brother franchise is NOT A COUNSELLING GROUP. Let's nt forget that. Y come on a show being aired on national TV and give such information and also claim that no soul knows about it(haba) It's happened, it has happened
Glory there's an organization that protects women and children who are raped victims, so there was no way they were going to allow the housemates to use someone's trauma for their glory, there are soo many things that they could have said to KB but they chose the one that will make her feel less of herself, KB IS NOT MY FAVE, Ashley spoke about her 4 abortions and no one said anything about that when they fight her, Bonnie instead of telling Biggie about herself during their 1st wager she chose to tell a sad story about her younger sisters passing and that has got nothing to do with their wager, Biggie wanted to know her better not her family but she chose her sister not even mentioning her 2kids and that to me was pity votes, lastly KB must just be called to stop her unnecessary loudness and bullying. All the housemates are South Africans they know the laws of their country, they must not go to Biggies house and act like they don't know their constitution that is why they they can not make jokes/swear at someone that he's gay or lesbian
I’m not even voting for kb she’s not getting any pity votes but jokes about rape we don’t take them as a joke just as tribalism is an issue in nigeria this is also a pandemic in SA
@MBALLYENHLE6 sure, nobody joke with rape. But most viewers vote out of pity. Before you know it, people will start mobilising support for KB claiming she is being bullied in the house; as if she is a saint. At least she bullied Nsuku too
Fine, Bonnie B and Ash aren't exactly saints, but seriously this is just double standards. Somehow they're making it seem like KayB herself is a saint. Ashley was right when she told her that when you share such a story, you should be ready for positive and negative reactions. If she couldn't be mature enough to take it, why did she share it? For pity votes or what? She even keeps bringing it up. I'm not ignoring her trauma but there should be a limit. I just wonder if the viewers are children or immature, that they can't be logical
Many past BBM contestants have shared their stories of sexual abuse; no one weaponised it in fights; why should her story be weaponised? She may have seen previous seasons and been encouraged to speak out on the BBM platform to inspire, and if you watched her presentation, you would see that the aim was to empower through her speech; she literally said, If I can overcome and be on Big Brother, so can you (referring to viewers who may have the same trauma). If she can't share her story, then why should the likes of Bonnie be allowed to share their stories for so-called pity votes (Bonnie was also crying sharing the story of her sister during the same task)? Because it's rape, there should be a limit to how much she shares?
@@Nonhlanhla_M. Past BBM hms. Yeah, past. Did those ones have the same thought process as these ones? I don't think so. It's called a social experiment for a reason. There are actually people in the society who would do exactly what they're doing now. That's why it's an experiment, to let people know about how different people would behave in certain social settings and situations. Let's even leave Bonnie and Ashley out, what about the other housemates uh? I can guarantee you that those ones thought about doing the same thing, only Bonnie B was the first to vocalise it. The only thing that annoys me about the whole thing is how people are making it seem as though these 2 are the worst humans on earth, when some of them are scum so please spare me the double standards. Again if she knew she wasn't going to be strong enough to take the reactions she would get, she should have known what to and what not to share, it's a cruel world out there
@@lelia997Not all the housemates have the same thought process, so let's not act like they all think the same or try and assume what they think. Let's go based on facts: Bonnie and Ashley vocalised it, so we are holding them accountable, not the supposed thought of housemates. In addition, how was Kayb supposed to know Bonnie and Ashley's thought process? Again, the story was targeted at empowering, so she may have considered positives. Bonnie and Ashley are not the worst people on earth; they are individuals who need to be held accountable, and since we are talking about being strong enough to hold the positives and negatives, then they must have also considered the negatives and positives of their statements on a South African show, and if they are also not strong enough, maybe they should keep their mouths shut.
The way you down play the rape Issue, and stand up for how some housemates have also downplayed it is scary. The matters of the mind are not very easy to understand and to think we understand KB and her approach li you are doing now is dangerous because we never will know the state of mind of KB. If KB is lying then it willbe dealt with, but its unacceptable to be seen and be heard advocating for those two's behavior. Yes the bullying should have been addressed...
I know Bonnie is your girl you Glory will stick up for her no matter what but she deserved everything she gets in my opinion what she said and did was evil
They’re making the game so booringgggg so we should watch the other cruisers? Kaybee should also avoid provoking others she’s a bully and Mshini started first!!!! That’s provocation is in the rule book as well!!!!
Bonnie B and Ashley are callous, crass people, no depth and nothing else to it, what they said was vile and cannot be compared to what other housemates have said to each other. Ashley keeps swearing at peoples mothers and their family members lol! They are 🤮. You guys keep making excuses for them. I wonder how much worse they are when people aren’t watching. I personally don’t think any of them should apologize because they meant what they said and even laughed as they were saying it. They aren’t sorry about what they said, they are feeling bad that they got caught saying it. Best move ever from BBrother.
yesterday i respected Bonnieb and Ashely intelligence in their response, even in the court of law there were going to win this case,people should know this is a reality tv show not a rehabilitation center
Exactly, and people react differently to things. I don’t think KB should have expected to get the “ warmth” from all the ladies as she put it, since she has never shared her trauma with the people close to her in her outside life. And she decided to share it with strangers! Maybe the 2M gave her motivation to share, coz this is a game after all and viewers like to pity vote.
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@@SiphokaziMabuto you don't share such sensitive information with strangers who are not professionals, that was dumb of her, now the poor ladies are expected to be expelled or disqualified
@@SiphokaziMabuto Exactly!!! Kayb is using her unfortunate trauma to play into the emotions of the housemates so she won't be nominated and she is also investing into the emotional banks of the viewers to keep her in the game and possibly win the show
Hi Glory you are spot on about KayB
Whilst the Hoh was reading the second punishment she was clapping.She feels.so proud that ash and.bonnie b were banned to the water room.msini was going on about ashley this ashley that.i felt that should have adress her role in the whole unpleasant episode.Now she portrays herself as an angel
In fact most of the housemates were smiling.Most of them want the real umlilo actors out.Many are just cruising and enjoying the predicament of the two girls.How many people in that house are their judges.😢😢 so sad.
Bonnie bee is the show this season.
I agree with you 💯 percent KB is not a saint
Now till the end I'm supporting the game player Ashley ❤
This situation is definitely annoying,who can we blame except our immature viewers
calling out people for making light of someone's sexual trauma is not immature, it's humanly.
Simple
@@piscesbabyyy7305Okay u are right but d calling out wasn't done fairly, Kay B is among the housemates that needed to be call out cos Kay B from day 2 in biggie house she builled Nusku and even in 5days she was using vile words at Nusku and Bonnie B. Yes Bonnie B saying she will use her past story against her is very wrong and evil to even think like that but guess what no one can control how people react when u look for that person trouble cos Kay B look for Bonnie B trouble Kay B is one housemate that insert herself in other housemates fight looking for trouble when is not her fight so because she told a sad story housemates should walk on egg shell around her. To me Kay B is not d only one that have had a sad story so why will she always insert herself in others fight and if the housemates throw insult in defending or fighting back with her sad story then that housemates is d worst housemates that double standard to me. Yes if u blame Bonnie B for saying she will use her story against her which she hasn't done also blame Kay B that has already use vile words to Bonnie B and Nusku while bullying them too. So yes biggie verdict is okay but is incomplete..for Ashely she is wrong calling Kay B that R--P girl that was so insensitive of her to call Kay B that. Ashley is actually angry at KayB all because Kay B gave Sweet Guvava spoon in the spoon game so is appropriate for her to apologize which she did, it might a real or fake but she apologize. Bonnie B not apologizing immediately can't be considered as she is mean no viewers need to know that if Bonnie B apologize immediately after Ashley without been sincere then d apology is of no use..d same viewers are dragging Ashely for her apology been fake.
@@piscesbabyyy7305Yes, they are expecting us to celebrate Insensitivity in the name of a show and laugh alongside Bonnie and Ashley
I just love your emotional intelligence Gloria and how you see through the bullshit, I honestly enjoy your reviews more than the show itself, you're the best.
I love Ashley ❤
Me, too, love her..
Bonnie bee she is the game for this season
Im proud of Ashley for apologizing...
❤ Yes Madlamini
Let us be true she is not honest she was doing to pass the stage.. cause when she wascoutside she said something deferrent. She was not supposed to appologise at that time until everybody has settle with the issues. For me it was just.
What did she say?@@mariamabusela3145
@mariamabusela3145 I agree with you, the apology was not genuine at all.
ASHLEY miss know it all..Her apologies was not sincere.😮PERIOD. Anything trigger that rude lady once again from the same Housemates or others. She'll be back on the battle field. She is continuously in a fight spirit. 😉
You are spot on well said I 110 percent agree with you.
Yes Glory this is SA One started the conversation and immediately they make that person the leader and run after her They cant think for themselves Just want to be heard
This behaviour is frustrating serious.
Then why just ashley and bonnie What about that click that scam and plan others downfall Look at them too the little angels that do as they please very proud of themselves
When you forgive you are setting the prisoner free and realising the prisoner is actually yourself. Forgiveness is a decision it’s not how you feel but for your own good and peace of mind. Ashley am proud of you it takes humility to apologise ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you Glory for back to back updates❤
I missed seeing glory with her wig,but you look beautiful the way you are now with your glowing skin
I don't care who says wat about wat on Ashley......am team her
Thnks so much Glory for consistently updating us❤❤
Nairobi Kenya! No need for apologies, Bigy is killing this game period!
I agree a 100persent it who did they physically beat up for them to be disqualified serious Nonsense this one with some Viewers...Delulu..
Rape and racism ate big issue in SA. These organizations put pressure on Biggie and the gorvement. We have too many rights here. Hope people will understand. People waited for biggie to take actions by disqualifying them even if he didnt want to do it. It's tough here. Men in the house dont even know how to approach ladies even If they are wrong. Hence they always have men's conferences, to remind each other of handling some situations. Bonnie is going to apologize today.
@@MampotsaRantsatsi Exactly
@@MampotsaRantsatsihai mahn there are organization that deal with those issues, big brother show is not that organization centre for abuse is a reality tv show why did kb bring that story to a show, we are not stupid that girl want pity votes n it's working.
To my undestanding no one bullied Bonnie bee in that house
Exactly if anything she is the bully
But kay b bullied Nsuku,,that girl is not holy
@@MarthaMwanza-nl3fn calling somebody a bitch is not bullying
Bonnie is the bully, and when people bite back, she cries bullying. Both girls were not provoked when they made those statements. Kayb gave Sweet Guluva a spoon and sat next to him. How is that provocation that warrants the weaponization of rape? equally, Bonnie, when she made the initial statement, it was day two or three before the task presentation. What did Kayb say or do in those two days that warranted that retaliation? They are crying bullying to avoid accountability for their vile behaviour.
@@Nonhlanhla_M.You have said it correctly. These people want us to eat their narrative as it is their favorites.
Many past BBM contestants have shared their stories of sexual abuse; no one weaponised it in fights (so the whole retaliation-because-we-are-in-a-confined-space excuse is nonsense); why should her story be weaponised? Kayb may have seen previous seasons and been encouraged to speak out on the BBM platform to inspire given the GBV crisis in our country, and if you watched her presentation, you would see that the aim was to empower through her speech; she literally said, If I can overcome and be on Big Brother, so can you (referring to viewers who may have the same trauma). Why should the likes of Bonnie be allowed to share their stories without having to consider the negatives? Bonnie was also crying, sharing the story of her sister during the same task; it's basic human decency not to weaponise trauma. Bonnie has insulted many people, yet no one used her sister's death to hurt her.
Thank you omg thank you!!!❤
Thank you! I couldn’t have said it any better 👍👏👏
People are so cruel, just leave Bonnie alone she will do it when she is ready. And don't forget that Kb also did Bonnie bad
True leave her please
They are not cruel at all. Rape can happen to anyone whether you were long or short dresses. Do they deserve to go home because of what they have said? No, but they need to know what they have said is not ok. I don't care what KayB has done to them, you can't stoop that low.
Glory, maybe you don't understand rape, how it leaves you, even if it is your boyfriend when he sleeps with you without your consent. Also remember BB rape issue has cost the viewers. No one can justify what those 2 done to KB. From Ashley point of view that apology is not genuine, that woman is horrible. No one invites Rape. Maybe other people will understand something when it happens to you. Kb is not a bad girl as you draw her, she is one of them who are also rough in their own ways. Put Nate & Nsuku both mysterious characters but other one is uncouth and the other not.
@@GwynnethKobokana-z4y My take is that KB didn't need to share the fact that she had to sell her body for money after talking about being raped.
@@GwynnethKobokana-z4ySavage was right, Ashley is fake
Bonnie should not apologize kayb should go and apologize to nsuku this kayb said that story so that someone will say it then she will cry so that people will vote for her when she is up i have clocked her game
yoh! Several past BBM contestants have shared their rape/GBV stories in the first week, and no one dragged it; no one voted for them based on that. Bonnie and Ashley are the ones responsible for it dragging; if Kayb gets pity votes, it's because of both of them.
Glory, you hit the nail on its head. In my opinion Mshini, Mandy, Kay B and even Nate should have received warnings
It's not that Kay B is a saint but as for Bonnie Bee ,that one is totally wrong ,she is not showing any remorse .You can't say Joke about rape especially as a woman and in this society.
Get over yourself, Kayb is not the first nor will she be the first to go through rape, she knows you viewers are gullible, no wonder the you guys were blindly following Women4Change petition against Chris Brown's performance.
I just hope her kids are not girls, coz karma doesn't have an expirery date
I still stand on it,KB brought that up because of pity she wants votes 🗳
Its her strategy the others can bring theirs up! Its a game did you expect her to come without anything? Don't fault her for that and be fr
@sandraofori9472 So, it means it is OK for other housemates to deploy the strategy of shooting down each other's strategy...
Yes she did, though it is painful being rapped but we also see right through her eyes. What she's desplayed, her strategy is a pitty votes
You can not expect us to pitty you while your strategy is to plays with boys, she even called them "victims" in the diary room. Mna andizi, I am not falling for that ish
And kb will not see our vote
Nate also using this story as a strategy to up her game is a bit disgusting.
As for Ashley I understand that girl at first I thought that she is just not nice but hey after yesterday .I'm starting to like her ..as for Bonnie that girl is iyoo
Tht wasn't even an apology
I wonder the kind of society in which we live in. I don’t get it when people are saying the kb’s actions and inactions caused it. So is it right if someone provokes you and the person is disable you will use that disability to insult and ridicule the person. We should learn to watch our words in all situations
What I have noted is that people like to make 2 issues that have the same headline but are not totally the same into the same thing and expect the same results
I totally agree with you Glory & Ashley 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 for asking Kay B that question. I think she's using that story as her strategy. Did you see her with Swiss? as she was trying to make Savage jealous
Is this a matter. I am so tired with this. Topic of rape she was not or she was not.
What these ladies have said is not excusable. I don't care what KayB did to them, you can't stoop that low. You don't want that karma as what happened to KayB may happen to anyone. I am not saying they should be disqualified but we can't make excuses for them either.
@@thandiswabonani5303 Kaybe will surprise you after the show and tell you that was her game plan, you guys are gullible.
Thank you! I don't understand the argument that they were fighting back because Kayb did some things; it doesn't warrant the weaponisation of rape. there is no excuse for that behaviour
What did they do to Kaylee...nothing
Rape and discrimination we don’t take it lightly glory if kayB should have been equally punished that’s on biggie he should have done dat but these 2 topics are Sensitive to us we deal with them on a daily basis!!! It takes you to live in South African society to understand why it’s like dat
I always like the videos before watching ❤
Why should someone’s first thought be she’s acting. Can we leave the game out of this for a minute even if she was acting our firs response it to have sympathy and show empathy to KayB.
Thank you ppl just want content no matter wat Violence everywhere
Just bcz this season’s theme is umlilo (fire) doesn’t mean we should be insensitive mybe we’re not ready for Big Brother and all it’s Violence I’m not even a KayB fan but I’m not the one to encourage rubbing salt on her wounds if it’s lies or acting that’s on her!!
South Africans are not ready for big brother show
Njani ?
no, we are; we just don't find rape funny and expect contestants who are mature enough not to weaponise rape in their strategies to play the game.
I'm a South African, but l couldn't agree with you more. Most of us have fragile egos and expect everybody to be the same. And we like to be pampered even by our enemies. We're so unbelievable!
@@Nonhlanhla_M.Well said Queen
Glory l am a South African, but l totally disagree with the so called South African viewership community and their double standards.
Do you want to tell me that KB giving Guluva a spoon is equivalent to Ashley calling her "That rape girl" because I don't remember KB having an altercation with Ashley. I don't care how much people try to justify Ashley and Bonnie B's behavior, rape is rape from all angles. If you have never experienced rape you will never understand. I was raped twice too and my after reaction was being rebellious in my teen years and drank like a fish. In this instance big brother was specifically addressing sexual harassment, if a turn comes to address the bullying then let big brother call KB to order.
Eish and people they totally tailoring away the insults she poured unto Ntsuku 'KB' that is..these were really bad coz i do understand both languages..she kept repeating "otla nnyela loud"no excuses for her behaviour at all
That nnyela it's an insult
@@nomonde1what does nnyela mean in English?
Glory please can we have a live on Mondays or Wednesdays like you did before? By the time Saturday comes we have forgotten some of our talking points and given the heat of this show, we are sure Sundays will be very eventful.
Big Brother was fair but he forgot Kay B about bullying Nsuku
Yes
Yess
Exactly, KB is not innocent entirely
KB does not represent every 🍇 victim. Victims of 🍇 often recognise the sensitivity of their encounter and choose an appropriate setting to open up. Such settings provide support, guidance and counselling to victims and also privacy due to the sensitivity of the issue.
Fact is BBM is not a support group or counselling centre. Like i said KB doesnt represents every 🍇 victim. Her actions and behavior in the house might have irked Ashley and Bonnie b involuntarily removing any empathy and sensitivity they would have had for her.
No ones feelings towards a sitiuation should be dictated‼️
Did she say she’s representing grape victims? Who are you to tell someone how to express themselves.
I'm embarrassed for you
Ashley's apology was not genuine. She felt like she had to do it because she clocked that viewers might not be happy with her. How can you call someone the rape girl. If you listen to how she spoke with sweet guluva, she didnt not forget kay b's name she just branded her with that name and was laughing before and after saying it.
Rape girl imagine … and what other ppl don’t understand is it’s normal for even ppl of different color than us call us anything they remember us of instead of our names… that was just too much
She’s worse than Bonnie , atleast Bonnie doesn’t want to apologise unless she means it
They want the theme to be umlilo but viewers want people want housemates to acts the theme of water .they should remove the theme
@@felistermaliro7427 you are disgusting if you think weaponising someone’s trauma is umlilo
it shows this generation don't like to be truthful about life
Bonni B is simply being bullied into apologising and she shouldn't. KayB's prurient behaviour suggests otherwise. SA viewers always quick to threaten multichoice, perhaps bigbrother should entirely be banned from the country seeing they are still healing
😂😂😂😂 South Africa is literally different from the rest of us 😅😅😅😅
Elaborate please
@@madikanesesethuYes P L Z ... Elaborate 😮
Explanation please!!!
Oh yes we are and as we should. Imagine if we layed down and took half the crap yall take in your countries
@ We don’t let our emortions overide our judgements
If it’s about bully in the house, I guess most of them are bullies. They do it to each other which isn’t a good thing at all. But R*** is really a sensitive topic and we need to understand that in South Africa a lot of people go through it which makes it even more sensitive and that’s why the viewers are really upset about it..
We can’t use the same perspective for Bbnaija for BbMzansi
People should stop dragging Bonnie B. She will apologise at her own convenient time. She and Ashley are giving us content and we need these types of people to make the show interesting
They giving content on a certain level . That's the game. 🎉 Sometimes there content is no more. Then it's getting to a point of personal. So we don't need to say certian house mates is the content of the game. Because of being loud and rude. The quite and mind there business also give viewers content. MCJunior great example. Weird in so many ways to the viewers and housemates. End of day won the game with flying colours too. Years back Nkosi and Ace...Walk away with the Grand Price. 😊Not always the the loud and not being yourself that stand out inBB house .. Xx
@berniewilliams3254 this is a reality TV show where you don't fake your attitude because you want to satisfy some people. Whether you are loud, rude or quiet, what matters is for you to be yourself and be entertaining. But some set of audience want housemates to be quiet, gentle, and not rude. A reality show is for you to be entertaining regardless of your attitude
Yes please drop her some votes
@@busiradebe7175 she will definitely have my vote
Content of rudeness no guys
Nna Glory I love and understand Ashley ❤️ 💕 ♥️
No one says anything about kb sleeping with 2 guys in the house already so if you want to define you you why would she do that
You need to educate yourself on how rape victims deal and move
That's true glory we all are different..... South Africans just want to make BBMzansi a family show and if so they must just cancel theirs
I hope this issue doesn't make Bonnie to crew into a hole and hide😢😢😢
I think it is stanship… people who stan for other housemates and who feel the strength of either Ashly or Bonnie feel they should be removed, not only because of what they did but because Those 2 are in the way of their own fav to become winners at the end of the show…
For some its immaturity but for some its just strategic…
The game is inside and outside.
Some strong fanbase can be shaken by this as well and move with the flow as well 😅
Manipulation inside and outside… can we talk also about how KB will use this opportunity?
Bonnie Bee in the videos repeatedly said SHE SYMPATHIZES with the situation but she doesn't agree with the certain parts.I classify that as normal gossip,although the subject is sensitive,Bonnie B has a strong character but this is big brother,when you go there you expect thos type of things.I agree with Gloria Elijah that we turn a blind eye and choose only certain things.
....By the way Bonnie B.is not doing well By the Voting Polls she might be the one going home on Sunday
Big ups for Ashey to show remorse and apologizing and agree that she was wrong and trying to work on herself as for Bonnie Nsuku and Martha i rest my case these girls are really mean
I can't believe for the first time I'm heavily disagreeing with you on something. But it's okay I guess we can't always agree on everything . 😭💔
Madam Glory mark this date...this might play in kayb side based on pity votes to win or Ashley's win because people has started liking her more for apologizing...u should understand human sentiments and emotions when it comes Big brother shows
14:22 Theres a huge difference Glory, when Mandy was confronting Nsuku, she was not saying anything derogatory, or defamatory, nor being racist. You can't compare Ashley's situation to Mandy's, theres huge difference. It can't be double standards.
When she said "that Pedi or Venda thing" how do you interpret this???
Gloria I fully agree with you 💯 in this KB is not an angel she might be a victim thi time but not completely
even Moshin she called Ashly a monkey but we move I am not condone what this 2 girls did but they don't ben disqualifie
d Bigbrother verdict was fine they needed to learn a lesson a bit
What I've realised with this season's viewers is that they are immature and its frustrating to even experience. I think maybe I've outgrown Big Brother, I'm 35.
I know what you mean but to each his own I guess
Mara this headless chicken mentality must just stop, it's irritating, see how JoJo, Mandy Hagan follow around Kaybe as their Messiah is disgusting.
As young as I am, I totally agree with you, The double standards frustrate me to the core. I think I'm starting to get bored of watching the show
Honestly, everything about this show baffles me. Especially the way these viewers somehow gloss over certain issues and focus more on one, like they don't have a mind of their own or something
@@lelia997 like robots, I swear.
Some fans are very much bullying like Nate and kb are doing in that house
Some times yes u wld want one to be disqualified but no that isn't the best way south Africa this thing of u wanting a housemate to get disqualified is irritating they shld stop
I think its okay to have a difference of opinions, its bound to happen.
We as people are different, we come from different backgrounds with different experiences that shapes our perspectives
Bonny B may not be my favorite housemate but im glad she did not have to leave the house on such a bad note. Hopefully this gives her a chance to rectify he wrongs and perhaps going forward the manner of appropriate and overall attitude amongst housemates improves.
Because clearly things were getting out of control
What I've realized is that production of the show is also playing the game. What a f**k did we see in the clips, why did they cut other things. They should just play the whole thing
But is she really remorseful?
And I also understand her apologizing immediately after she was outed would just seem like she's doing it just for the matter to die down.
But wait ohhhh y'all, let's be logical. Bonnie B just said she's going to use the rape stuff against her right? Have she actually done that? What's wrong with people
True yeah is like south African sorry are not ready for this show
Dont message BULL CRAB S - AFRICANS not ready to watch BB MAZANSI...Were did the show end few years back? Because of these type of shit going on in that house. Was RAPE you name it. So ppl Stop condoning wrong things. House mates are RUDE and PERSONAL. Show or not.
90% of that persons dont watch the show but read about it and shour guilty Go and ask them why they will tell you everyone say it so they cant be wrong
Thank god they were given second chance cause Bonnie and Ashley they bring fire in the house as for KB she is the one who is provoking Bonnie i wish big brother give a strike cause she is not innocent too
The both ladies handled their issues with the peculiarities it came with. Bonniebee going over their to apologize at that moment would have gone either way. Imagine Mandy Hagan interjecting while Bonniebee is apologizing like she did when Ashley was apologizing, it would’ve blown up into something else potentially. Mind you, Bonniebee needs to think of a good way to get through to Kaybee for that apology to be honest
If I was Bonnie b I can't apologize
Trauma is just trauma, whatever the cause is. That's what people don't understand.
Hahahhah🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉this time am just listening viewers and mostly in that country ahhh they are too much I say
Smh that was not a slip of the tongue. She mentioned it three times with Sweet G at a point where he didn’t hear her, and she repeated herself. I can’t believe humans are okay with someone planning to attack someone and saying, “Are you crying because you got graped?” I wish this happened in the U.S. Both of them would be Canceled.
Bonnie said she will apologize but not now cos she's still crying she will go let her calm down but KB must not see this as her revenge towards Bonnie abut her and savage
Kb want pity vote....is like viewers and housemate now decide for big brother.
Did you hear what Mandy and Nate said about Ash apology
Can i ask you Glory please.I can understand kay b and usuku's case but what exactly did Kayb do to Ashley to react and say all she said to her.
TBH.. the strike and punishment was fair but we all know this is what Kay bee wanted when she shared the story.. well she is winning... It's all a game at the end
Faults and toxic traits aside I actually want both Bonnie and ashley to go far in the competition. The house will be very quiet and dull if they were to be evicted I hope people are voting heavily for Bonnie. I do t even watch the show but these girls are all over my timeline.. The fact that they can get people to talk for so long is testament to what kind of star power they have. BOTH of them and what I like they are not fake. I feel they are themselves toxiness aside
For me bonnie B is not wrong seriously .
In fact if it was me I could have even do the same .
I believe the viewers have mob mentality, no individuality at all.
If evil was a person it would be Nate.
I am not on Kay B's side Nope Nope.
Gloria I love you so much but the problem here in SA is rape.The are people who still doesn't want to open up about the situations because of people like Bonnie and Ashley. People I want you to remember most victims of rape they have this tendency of pretending to be strong and it takes a long time for them to show the signs. Women if you don't have experience of KB is facing
Yes it takes you to live in South African society to know the seriousness of it!!!. We’re not justifying kayB rube behavior
Hai big brother show is not an organization centre for abuse n grape stop boring us with your morality.
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Bonnie will apologize at her own time, even kB herself apologized to ntsuku but the next day she cursed ntsuku again during the fight with mandy
It’s sad that this bbm is been watched by emotional viewers unlike in the past 😢
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It is double standard it’s sad thou
Why did she share it with the house.. Yes they were wrong but why did she share her story if she did want other ppl to talk about it
Not defending anyone the way KayB move i think Big brother must make sure the KayB story is true, i say this because i m also a victim of rape, yes I'm healed but I can tell you the is something off in her behavior. Maybe Big brother needs to organize some sort of counseling my opinion.
Biggie and the BIG Brother franchise is NOT A COUNSELLING GROUP.
Let's nt forget that.
Y come on a show being aired on national TV and give such information and also claim that no soul knows about it(haba)
It's happened, it has happened
Glory there's an organization that protects women and children who are raped victims, so there was no way they were going to allow the housemates to use someone's trauma for their glory, there are soo many things that they could have said to KB but they chose the one that will make her feel less of herself, KB IS NOT MY FAVE, Ashley spoke about her 4 abortions and no one said anything about that when they fight her, Bonnie instead of telling Biggie about herself during their 1st wager she chose to tell a sad story about her younger sisters passing and that has got nothing to do with their wager, Biggie wanted to know her better not her family but she chose her sister not even mentioning her 2kids and that to me was pity votes, lastly KB must just be called to stop her unnecessary loudness and bullying. All the housemates are South Africans they know the laws of their country, they must not go to Biggies house and act like they don't know their constitution that is why they they can not make jokes/swear at someone that he's gay or lesbian
I won't be surprised if KB win this show because people are already showing her pity. Enough of all these pity votes
I’m not even voting for kb she’s not getting any pity votes but jokes about rape we don’t take them as a joke just as tribalism is an issue in nigeria this is also a pandemic in SA
@MBALLYENHLE6 sure, nobody joke with rape. But most viewers vote out of pity. Before you know it, people will start mobilising support for KB claiming she is being bullied in the house; as if she is a saint. At least she bullied Nsuku too
She will not.... Who's gonna vote for her???
Fine, Bonnie B and Ash aren't exactly saints, but seriously this is just double standards. Somehow they're making it seem like KayB herself is a saint. Ashley was right when she told her that when you share such a story, you should be ready for positive and negative reactions. If she couldn't be mature enough to take it, why did she share it? For pity votes or what? She even keeps bringing it up. I'm not ignoring her trauma but there should be a limit.
I just wonder if the viewers are children or immature, that they can't be logical
And on a lighter note, Bonnie shouldn't bother cooking for them anymore 🤣😂
Many past BBM contestants have shared their stories of sexual abuse; no one weaponised it in fights; why should her story be weaponised? She may have seen previous seasons and been encouraged to speak out on the BBM platform to inspire, and if you watched her presentation, you would see that the aim was to empower through her speech; she literally said, If I can overcome and be on Big Brother, so can you (referring to viewers who may have the same trauma). If she can't share her story, then why should the likes of Bonnie be allowed to share their stories for so-called pity votes (Bonnie was also crying sharing the story of her sister during the same task)? Because it's rape, there should be a limit to how much she shares?
@@Nonhlanhla_M. Past BBM hms. Yeah, past. Did those ones have the same thought process as these ones? I don't think so. It's called a social experiment for a reason. There are actually people in the society who would do exactly what they're doing now. That's why it's an experiment, to let people know about how different people would behave in certain social settings and situations. Let's even leave Bonnie and Ashley out, what about the other housemates uh? I can guarantee you that those ones thought about doing the same thing, only Bonnie B was the first to vocalise it. The only thing that annoys me about the whole thing is how people are making it seem as though these 2 are the worst humans on earth, when some of them are scum so please spare me the double standards. Again if she knew she wasn't going to be strong enough to take the reactions she would get, she should have known what to and what not to share, it's a cruel world out there
Its not double standards. When has KayB said anything derogatory, racist or defamatory about another housemate???? WHEN?
@@lelia997Not all the housemates have the same thought process, so let's not act like they all think the same or try and assume what they think. Let's go based on facts: Bonnie and Ashley vocalised it, so we are holding them accountable, not the supposed thought of housemates. In addition, how was Kayb supposed to know Bonnie and Ashley's thought process? Again, the story was targeted at empowering, so she may have considered positives. Bonnie and Ashley are not the worst people on earth; they are individuals who need to be held accountable, and since we are talking about being strong enough to hold the positives and negatives, then they must have also considered the negatives and positives of their statements on a South African show, and if they are also not strong enough, maybe they should keep their mouths shut.
I just wish the focus could be on other things other than discussing about this sensitive topics “Bully n R***”
The way you down play the rape Issue, and stand up for how some housemates have also downplayed it is scary. The matters of the mind are not very easy to understand and to think we understand KB and her approach li you are doing now is dangerous because we never will know the state of mind of KB. If KB is lying then it willbe dealt with, but its unacceptable to be seen and be heard advocating for those two's behavior.
Yes the bullying should have been addressed...
I know Bonnie is your girl you Glory will stick up for her no matter what but she deserved everything she gets in my opinion what she said and did was evil
True 💯
They’re making the game so booringgggg so we should watch the other cruisers? Kaybee should also avoid provoking others she’s a bully and Mshini started first!!!! That’s provocation is in the rule book as well!!!!
Early bird🎉
Bonnie B and Ashley are callous, crass people, no depth and nothing else to it, what they said was vile and cannot be compared to what other housemates have said to each other. Ashley keeps swearing at peoples mothers and their family members lol! They are 🤮. You guys keep making excuses for them. I wonder how much worse they are when people aren’t watching. I personally don’t think any of them should apologize because they meant what they said and even laughed as they were saying it. They aren’t sorry about what they said, they are feeling bad that they got caught saying it. Best move ever from BBrother.