Great video! I don't warm my bike up before I change the oil. The oil isn't thick so no need to imo, plus it keeps the dirty oil down by the drain plug. I change mine on my GG MC450 every 5-6 hours and always put a new filter in. I let it drain for a good hour before I put the new oil in.
Yamaha recommend on the manual to warm up the bike 2 minutes and then wait a minute before draining the oil. That's just what he did. At the beginning i was wondering about the same thing by letting the dirt in the bottom but personally i have decide to follow the user guide and added a magnet drain plug.
Deeo. Enjoy your videos. I had this same oil conversation with myself that you are having regarding oil change intervals. After needing a crank at 30 hrs. on my '21 250F, I change my oil every ride now. Aprox. 1 to 1.5 hours on it. I wont even dive into what brand I use but oil is cheaper than a crank rebuild all day long, especially if you put a hole through the cases. I was changing every other ride like 3-4 hours on it. Way to long on these small volume crankcases with F1 valve technology. Consider earlier oil changes on the Yamaha. Keep the videos coming.
My friends have over a 100 hrs on their yz250f before doing a rebuild. My son had 165 before we did too and bottom. Valves were still in spec.. I have over 80 on one of my yz450’s . We use super tech full synthetic which is made by citco! Ran it in my crotch rockets as well. I use to be a A rider when I was racing and never blew my bikes up..
Being a mechanic the most important is that first oil change then I would go by the recommended intervals to about the third oil change but after that, you can go to every 15 hours no problem. Unless you are a pro rider and always on the rev limiter and running the bike hard all the time then yes change it at the 7 hr recommendation or maybe sooner. Weekend warriors I would go 15 hrs and don't worry about it.
Oil looked great for break in I agree as a a tech mechanic former f 18 mec in navy every 8 but I always use site glass too just look can tell if anything wrong foam color etc
That’s what I love to hear. I did 6-8 sometimes 10 hours between changes on my 17 Honda 450. Only replaced the piston to and bottom end to be proactive. But yeah not pushing it to 15 but not going overkill with an oil change every 2 hours. Nice little happy medium.
I have had bunch of 4strokes, mostly Yamaha. I do 10hrs. My trick which most will think is crazy, I let oil drain after a brief engine warm up. Once it’s out, and has stopped dripping..fire the bike for 5-7seconds..this pushes old oil out of the pumps etc..amazing how much comes out. Without doing this, your fresh new oil is contaminated immediately..have fun and enjoy the new ride!
@@jasonstevens4192 I did the same thing with holding the kill switch and cranking the bike. Moves oil through the engine and out before you put new oil in.
You will notice the air cleaner stays soooo much cleaner than other bikes . I usually change mine every ride / race day ( so about 1hr ) we in middle of summer where pretty much doesn't rain from nov-april our tracks are beat up and mostly dry . I did 3.5 hrs or 3x rides checking the air filter everytime and its still clean !! How's yours going ?
oh interesting! I had a buddy on a Yami tell me his gets way more dirty being up front. 100% transparent here I didn't clean the air filter between ride 1 and 2. I was going to but just... didn't. lol. But it looked totally fine which is why I didn't. The ride day at Aztec was so... no weather so I think that helped. It wasn't dusty nor muddy or anything, like my bike didn't even look dirty so the filter didn't have to work too hard. But I'll be cleaning it after this weekend just to get in the habit of every 2 - 4 hours on an air filter!
You on the east coast? Because I heard u talking about the weather this weekend coming up.I live in N.Y.Just wanted to know so I can ask u what track r trails u go too.
I am not listening to my kx250f manual because it says every 25 hours and a piston every 25 hours. So basically only change oil when I do a top end, and also don't do a break end change after a new piston. 🤣 lunacy to me. I probably over do it and obviously you're totally right it can go longer. But for me there is no reason to push it (i get oil for free so there is no downside besides my own time) Cleaner oil is better and will be less engine wear. My piston looked great at 72 hours. 7.5hr seems plenty good though. Nice to see a most other manuals make sense unlike the kx one. 🤣
Dude... WHAT? Yeah no that's insane lmao. And no shame in doing it earlier, especially with free oil! I just think a lot of riders who are maybe C or mid pack B like myself go overboard and it's like good on you for taking care of your bike but cool it a bit, hoss haha.
I was definitely sketched even when I got the bike new because I didn't see oil in the sight glass! I didn't time or check it because of course I knew I put oil into it, but it does seem to take a while to come back up, doesn't it??
Very nice! I know that the Yami book recommends weights 10 and up, nothing 5w/ but I'm sure having oil that's good to a lower temp is never a bad thing.
I think you're incorrect, sorry. The owners manual calls it "engine oil drain bolt (oil tank)" and "engine oil drain bolt (crankcase)." If you're like to take it up with Yamaha, be my guest. But they're both drain bolts and the oil level check window is used to, you know, check the oil amount.
@@ReturnOfDeeO ya that’s what it says but other Yamahas have had that and the mechanics will tell you that’s what it really is.. but they call it a drain cause obviously oil drains out of it for when you fill it to that height. Hence if you don’t have enough oil to that point it don’t spill out..
I love your confidence but you're just wrong, lol. The 2023 Yamaha YZ450F is an all new Yamaha, it doesn't matter what other Yamahas in the past had because it is all new. This bike has a built in oil tank, so you have to remove the side drain bolt to drain all the oil. Again I appreciate your enthusiasm but you're mistaken.
@@ReturnOfDeeO actually it’s not a oil tank. I forgot Yamaha went form wet sump from previous years to a dry sump. Look up the difference hence why it’s better and for leaning..
Great video! I don't warm my bike up before I change the oil. The oil isn't thick so no need to imo, plus it keeps the dirty oil down by the drain plug. I change mine on my GG MC450 every 5-6 hours and always put a new filter in. I let it drain for a good hour before I put the new oil in.
Yamaha recommend on the manual to warm up the bike 2 minutes and then wait a minute before draining the oil. That's just what he did.
At the beginning i was wondering about the same thing by letting the dirt in the bottom but personally i have decide to follow the user guide and added a magnet drain plug.
That is one finely tuned machine. 🔥
Absolutely!
nice graphics! and nice catch!
Deeo. Enjoy your videos. I had this same oil conversation with myself that you are having regarding oil change intervals. After needing a crank at 30 hrs. on my '21 250F, I change my oil every ride now. Aprox. 1 to 1.5 hours on it. I wont even dive into what brand I use but oil is cheaper than a crank rebuild all day long, especially if you put a hole through the cases. I was changing every other ride like 3-4 hours on it. Way to long on these small volume crankcases with F1 valve technology. Consider earlier oil changes on the Yamaha. Keep the videos coming.
My friends have over a 100 hrs on their yz250f before doing a rebuild. My son had 165 before we did too and bottom. Valves were still in spec.. I have over 80 on one of my yz450’s . We use super tech full synthetic which is made by citco! Ran it in my crotch rockets as well. I use to be a A rider when I was racing and never blew my bikes up..
Being a mechanic the most important is that first oil change then I would go by the recommended intervals to about the third oil change but after that, you can go to every 15 hours no problem. Unless you are a pro rider and always on the rev limiter and running the bike hard all the time then yes change it at the 7 hr recommendation or maybe sooner. Weekend warriors I would go 15 hrs and don't worry about it.
Have you ever done oil testing on bikes? They get quite a bit of fuel dilution to go to 15 hour intervals in our opinion.
Oil looked great for break in I agree as a a tech mechanic former f 18 mec in navy every 8 but I always use site glass too just look can tell if anything wrong foam color etc
I like to change mine every 10 hours. I have over 200 hours on my 18 crf450. Original piston
That’s what I love to hear. I did 6-8 sometimes 10 hours between changes on my 17 Honda 450. Only replaced the piston to and bottom end to be proactive. But yeah not pushing it to 15 but not going overkill with an oil change every 2 hours. Nice little happy medium.
@@ReturnOfDeeO I forget what the book says. But 10 hours worked for me. Not too long not too soon. Like you said right in-between.
I have had bunch of 4strokes, mostly Yamaha. I do 10hrs.
My trick which most will think is crazy, I let oil drain after a brief engine warm up. Once it’s out, and has stopped dripping..fire the bike for 5-7seconds..this pushes old oil out of the pumps etc..amazing how much comes out. Without doing this, your fresh new oil is contaminated immediately..have fun and enjoy the new ride!
@@jasonstevens4192 I did the same thing with holding the kill switch and cranking the bike. Moves oil through the engine and out before you put new oil in.
@@ReturnOfDeeO I saw that, just let it run a few seconds and it will clear it out. Great method either way..
I have a 2021 kx250f and i do my oil change every 2 rides but i make sure it gets done properly 100%
You will notice the air cleaner stays soooo much cleaner than other bikes . I usually change mine every ride / race day ( so about 1hr ) we in middle of summer where pretty much doesn't rain from nov-april our tracks are beat up and mostly dry . I did 3.5 hrs or 3x rides checking the air filter everytime and its still clean !! How's yours going ?
oh interesting! I had a buddy on a Yami tell me his gets way more dirty being up front. 100% transparent here I didn't clean the air filter between ride 1 and 2. I was going to but just... didn't. lol. But it looked totally fine which is why I didn't. The ride day at Aztec was so... no weather so I think that helped. It wasn't dusty nor muddy or anything, like my bike didn't even look dirty so the filter didn't have to work too hard. But I'll be cleaning it after this weekend just to get in the habit of every 2 - 4 hours on an air filter!
My 21 air filter only gets dirty if im not up front lol
Did you find a skid plate that fits that thing? just bought a '23 yz450f also and cant seem to find one thats not $300 lol
Went with the p3 carbon Moto flex one!
@@ReturnOfDeeO do you like it? Is the quality nice?
Hi..I s your bike ignition coil assy bracket loose? I have brand new and have this issue. My honda is it tight and rigid
You on the east coast? Because I heard u talking about the weather this weekend coming up.I live in N.Y.Just wanted to know so I can ask u what track r trails u go too.
No I live in Colorado lol
@@ReturnOfDeeO oh ok cool 👍🏾
Just don’t forget to reset the app for oil change.
Good call! I did forget during the oil change but luckily remembered when I got to the track today 🤘🏼
Forget mine every time good thing i write it down lol
@@brapbrapmafucka i also write it down, little more idiot proof for when I inevitably forget lol
I agree lol
wow didn’t know i could’ve been going that long without changing my oil, i’ve been wasting money 😂
Yeah bro scale 'er back haha
Hi mate, Is the oil ment to be half full on site glass whilst bike is off? Thanks
While the bike is running and idling, the oil should be halfway or lower than the sight glass. Halfway is maximum oil level.
When are you riding again next DeeO? Love the vids!
Thanks, Mack! I'm sure I'll be riding next weekend if the weather is good :)
I am not listening to my kx250f manual because it says every 25 hours and a piston every 25 hours. So basically only change oil when I do a top end, and also don't do a break end change after a new piston. 🤣 lunacy to me. I probably over do it and obviously you're totally right it can go longer. But for me there is no reason to push it (i get oil for free so there is no downside besides my own time) Cleaner oil is better and will be less engine wear. My piston looked great at 72 hours. 7.5hr seems plenty good though. Nice to see a most other manuals make sense unlike the kx one. 🤣
Dude... WHAT? Yeah no that's insane lmao. And no shame in doing it earlier, especially with free oil! I just think a lot of riders who are maybe C or mid pack B like myself go overboard and it's like good on you for taking care of your bike but cool it a bit, hoss haha.
You don’t check the oil screen? Even after break in to check for shavings? Interesting…
Hard to check something that this bike doesn’t have, lol.
My 16 yz450f has an oil screen I take out and clean every oil change , The 23 doesn’t have the oil screen ?
Don’t think so, didn’t see anything of the sort. 16 - 23 is a long time for a bike to make changes 🤘🏼
@@ReturnOfDeeO very true , right on man ! Enjoy watching your Vids
I think the Hondas have a longer oil change interval because the trans and engine have separate oil.
Older Hondas, yes. The 2017 is the same oil 🤘🏼
The newer Hondas have one fill hole holding 1 quart. It's all one now
how long did it take for oil to return to sight glass for ya, mine takes like 20 min to a half hr lol
I was definitely sketched even when I got the bike new because I didn't see oil in the sight glass! I didn't time or check it because of course I knew I put oil into it, but it does seem to take a while to come back up, doesn't it??
Literally forever lol
just turn bike on and you will see it in sight glass
@@Bayfieldboyy after an oil change it takes time to fill back into the sight glass.
What is the outro song
Every 15 hours on the KX450, use Castrol Power 1 5W 40 full synthetic on all my bikes (best oil going in my opinion)
Very nice! I know that the Yami book recommends weights 10 and up, nothing 5w/ but I'm sure having oil that's good to a lower temp is never a bad thing.
So 1 quart even of oil??
yep!
How much are you selling Yeti for?
Going to list at $5500 but have some wiggle room for sure.
@@ReturnOfDeeO if I was local i'd be very tempted
love the bike :))
He’s gonna be a ripper on the pdub
It's going to be wild. I'm sure he'll want to ride so we'll get him a bike when the time comes and see how he likes it!
Synthetic or not ??
Change your oil when ever you feel comfortable doing it. Every 2 rides for me.
Whatever works!
That bolt on the side is more of a oil height check hole than a drain plug..
I think you're incorrect, sorry. The owners manual calls it "engine oil drain bolt (oil tank)" and "engine oil drain bolt (crankcase)." If you're like to take it up with Yamaha, be my guest. But they're both drain bolts and the oil level check window is used to, you know, check the oil amount.
@@ReturnOfDeeO ya that’s what it says but other Yamahas have had that and the mechanics will tell you that’s what it really is.. but they call it a drain cause obviously oil drains out of it for when you fill it to that height. Hence if you don’t have enough oil to that point it don’t spill out..
I love your confidence but you're just wrong, lol. The 2023 Yamaha YZ450F is an all new Yamaha, it doesn't matter what other Yamahas in the past had because it is all new. This bike has a built in oil tank, so you have to remove the side drain bolt to drain all the oil. Again I appreciate your enthusiasm but you're mistaken.
@@ReturnOfDeeO actually it’s not a oil tank. I forgot Yamaha went form wet sump from previous years to a dry sump. Look up the difference hence why it’s better and for leaning..
@@mxr248 A-Ray's mechanic says its an oil tank. Go argue with him. instagram.com/p/CnuvFKLrbDt/
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