Not the stoniest mage by a long shot, simply put he has lucky equipment and an OP theurgy. His theurgy has by so far the highest base power of any theurgy, but his magic stat is very low. This is only possible after getting 99 Magic in him using cards, Laevaetinn, Agni Bracers and Shift Amp shoes. The best mage in regular gameplay is Yukari / Mitsuru as Yukari has highest magic but Mitsuru has better moves.
@@Megidolaon999for the theurgy specifically, it’ll one shot reaper even if you have like 50 Magic with Max Strength bc theurgy damage is calculated differently
Upon seeing the title, I thought: “If this is a joke, it ain’t funny.” After watching: “Junpei and Akihiko are the best magic users even though physical” If only Mitsuru’s second theurgy was Ice
Kind of disappointing to see magic lagging behind like this, despite magic still being ultimately viable. Without P5R level technicals for elemental weakness exploitation, magic not being able to crit is just a pointless limitation. I know Technicals benefited Phys too, but you get what I mean. Phys nukes bosses AND random encounters especially, with Therugies piercing resistances. Magic does the same thing with less pizzazz and no crits. People thought the SEES members ate Akihiko's debuffing lunch to make themselves stronger, but it was really Mitsuru's role as a nuker that got gobbled up. RIP her second theurgy, too.
Mitsuru was always bad at her job, though. Mind Charge alone makes her worse than Yukari for magic damage in FES, so she's never really served much of a purpose in any game. P3R is also just an especially phys-focused game, probably the most the series has ever been and extremely arbitrarily too, so there's just no real reason to ever use her or other magic users for that matter.
Wow I forgot there was a shift boost accessory. So Mitsuru not only can she not keep up because of her base modifiers, but she's also locked out of Shift Amp boots. Rip Yukari and Mitsuru. Can Ken also do it then? Gae Bolg gives Ken Light Boost and he can also use Shift Amp boots. Koromaru also has the Star Dog Suit which gives him Shift Amp and the Tyrant's Knife gives him Dark Boost. But this means straight up best party is probably Junpei, Koro, Akihiko. Just get items for Matarukaja. Aigis's theurgy hits harder than Akihiko, but Akihiko's theurgy charges way faster than Aigis. EDIT: Tested with Ken with Gae Bolg, Pendant of Unity, and Shift Amp boots and he does about 5.8k. Sadge. Difference seems to be Theurgy base + modifiers from Amp/Boost/Magic ability/Shift Amp + Boost and Personality. So that means Koro will hit about the same.
@@tuvieeclipshaha if we exclude those DLC driver passives and MM builds, Junpei can actually do more damage than MC in both phys and magic. He's truly the man lol
I ran the math, and of those who can use magic, Mitsuru is the second worst burst magic attacker. Not only do both Junpei and Akihiko beat her out, but both Koromaru and Ken also beat her out. Yukari isn't even trailing far behind, and she would beat Mitsuru out if she had access to Shift Amp. Why in the french hell did Atlus do Mitsuru this dirty when being a burst magic attacker is part of her appeal as a combatant?
I was wondering when playing the game casually how strong Junpei's second theurgy must be to still do decent damage despite Junpei having bad magic, turns out the answer is very lol. This is why he's da man
I will always stick with Mitsuru since she's simply my favorite character (and aside from merciless its not like you NEED to be optimized) but geez they really screwed her over huh? She might honestly be the 'worst' character in terms of max potential. Like, for what reason is her 2nd Therugy Almighty? She has no affiliation with it anywhere else, Almighty already pierces, and you have far better sources for Debiliate.... In general they really screwed over Magic overall and I have no idea why. Maybe we could have gotten something like Soul Hackers 2 Magic Crit Ability to at least try and level them out?.
idk why yall are acting like characters with maxed stats and a shuffle time card that is completely random is at all indicative of actual realistic viability
@@tuvieeclipsa party of akihiko junpei and koromaru? nah. junpei and koromaru, sure, but if you have akihiko as the third slot in this party you don’t have attack buffs after turn 3, which is a problem for something like the final boss that can’t be killed in 3 turns, and akihiko being completely reliant on buff amp. and akihiko doesn’t even outdamage mitsuru WITH buff amp. you have no way of consistently getting akihiko concentrate without using yukari meaning his theurgy gets far outdamaged by mitsuru. even his gods hand gets outdamaged by diamond dust when he doesn’t crit.
genuinely insane that junpei, the crit demon, almost purely physical is also the strongest mage.
when bro said "soon to be MVP" he was not lying
Sees members effed around and found out
Not the stoniest mage by a long shot, simply put he has lucky equipment and an OP theurgy. His theurgy has by so far the highest base power of any theurgy, but his magic stat is very low. This is only possible after getting 99 Magic in him using cards, Laevaetinn, Agni Bracers and Shift Amp shoes.
The best mage in regular gameplay is Yukari / Mitsuru as Yukari has highest magic but Mitsuru has better moves.
@@Megidolaon999never said best mage, just the strongest, his theurgy is the most powerful therefore making him (stat wise) the strongest
@@Megidolaon999for the theurgy specifically, it’ll one shot reaper even if you have like 50 Magic with Max Strength bc theurgy damage is calculated differently
@@captaincrete3433 No Junpei without stat boosting hits 50 magic and max strength, incenses are required.
Upon seeing the title, I thought: “If this is a joke, it ain’t funny.”
After watching: “Junpei and Akihiko are the best magic users even though physical”
If only Mitsuru’s second theurgy was Ice
If only...
At least it's a free debilitate?
@@joshuabergman3292
Mitsuru’s second theurgy does that?
I thought it was severe almighty damage.
@@catalyst539 plus debilitate, what did you think, "also lowers all stats" mean?
@@joshuabergman3292also, it’s MASSIVE Almighty damage.
Late game Junpei is a beast!
Mitsuru's 2nd Theurgy should have stayed Ice, then this would likely be possible
Fr, what's even the point of almighty theurgies if they all can pierce?
@@tuvieeclips It's to make Mitsuru sad when magic ability specifically doesn't help her 2nd Theurgy.
Mitsuru becomes quite redundant in late game esp when MC can nuke using King and I
Just for clarification this is talking about Merciless and without MC!
Kind of disappointing to see magic lagging behind like this, despite magic still being ultimately viable. Without P5R level technicals for elemental weakness exploitation, magic not being able to crit is just a pointless limitation. I know Technicals benefited Phys too, but you get what I mean. Phys nukes bosses AND random encounters especially, with Therugies piercing resistances. Magic does the same thing with less pizzazz and no crits. People thought the SEES members ate Akihiko's debuffing lunch to make themselves stronger, but it was really Mitsuru's role as a nuker that got gobbled up. RIP her second theurgy, too.
it's truly strange that p3 went from being a magic heavy game to a REALLY phys dominant game
Mitsuru was always bad at her job, though. Mind Charge alone makes her worse than Yukari for magic damage in FES, so she's never really served much of a purpose in any game. P3R is also just an especially phys-focused game, probably the most the series has ever been and extremely arbitrarily too, so there's just no real reason to ever use her or other magic users for that matter.
Love the "Joker is playing Persona 5 Royal" in the corner
haha bro came through the 4th wall
Where is it?
Wow I forgot there was a shift boost accessory. So Mitsuru not only can she not keep up because of her base modifiers, but she's also locked out of Shift Amp boots. Rip Yukari and Mitsuru. Can Ken also do it then? Gae Bolg gives Ken Light Boost and he can also use Shift Amp boots. Koromaru also has the Star Dog Suit which gives him Shift Amp and the Tyrant's Knife gives him Dark Boost.
But this means straight up best party is probably Junpei, Koro, Akihiko. Just get items for Matarukaja. Aigis's theurgy hits harder than Akihiko, but Akihiko's theurgy charges way faster than Aigis.
EDIT: Tested with Ken with Gae Bolg, Pendant of Unity, and Shift Amp boots and he does about 5.8k. Sadge. Difference seems to be Theurgy base + modifiers from Amp/Boost/Magic ability/Shift Amp + Boost and Personality. So that means Koro will hit about the same.
yeah, if aki can "barely" do it i doubt any other can
But also you're on the money with that party comp, i run koro aki junpei 99% of the time
Nice vid! This is because blaze of life happens to be the strongest magic theurgy lol. Junpei really got stronger theurgy moves than the rest haha
junpei has both the strongest magic AND phys theurgies lol
@@tuvieeclipshaha if we exclude those DLC driver passives and MM builds, Junpei can actually do more damage than MC in both phys and magic. He's truly the man lol
@kentan9387 imo it should be like that. MC is incredibly versatile, but the party members can lean harder into their roles
Hahaha!! I knew it would be possible! Thanks for doing it so I didn’t have to waste my time lol!
goatpei iori
i knew the aki slander was unjustified
next time i will tackle the yukari glaze lol
@@tuvieeclips maybe its bc i had support makoto but i found aki as one of the best and yukari as one of the worst
>Magic users that can one shoot the reaper
>Looks inside
>Physical users
This is genuinely so crazy cus ive been seeing persona tiktok saying junpei is the worst character in the game and you should bench him
junpei / aki slander is nuts, even more considering yukari / shinji glaze
Let them wallow in ignorance. We shall enjoy the crit fiend praise a while longer.
@@Loispealz34better for boss fights and shit then REs simply because of shuffle time these character just destroy everything so you dont get them
@@tuvieeclipsLMFAO
I thought you were joking when you said Junpei could one shot the reaper with magic. Holy shit
bro has the best non-MC theurgies and everyone keeps preteding he's mid
I ran the math, and of those who can use magic, Mitsuru is the second worst burst magic attacker. Not only do both Junpei and Akihiko beat her out, but both Koromaru and Ken also beat her out. Yukari isn't even trailing far behind, and she would beat Mitsuru out if she had access to Shift Amp. Why in the french hell did Atlus do Mitsuru this dirty when being a burst magic attacker is part of her appeal as a combatant?
That fucking crazy, never expected that
My man aki
I was wondering when playing the game casually how strong Junpei's second theurgy must be to still do decent damage despite Junpei having bad magic, turns out the answer is very lol. This is why he's da man
How fun
Wait for the magic users can’t you do it with all the magic users if you give them yukari’s second theurgy to give them concentrate
auto concentrate is already applied my guy
@@tuviaso oh my B lmao
@@tuviaso from what?
genuinely curious.
@@EraAte shuffle time card, i think the Queen rank applies to all party members, dont remember
@@EraAte I believe one of the cards from Shuffle Time can give you an Auto Charge/Concentrate at the start of the next battle.
They really robbed Mitsuru this game
yup
What's the ending music called?
I will always stick with Mitsuru since she's simply my favorite character (and aside from merciless its not like you NEED to be optimized) but geez they really screwed her over huh? She might honestly be the 'worst' character in terms of max potential. Like, for what reason is her 2nd Therugy Almighty? She has no affiliation with it anywhere else, Almighty already pierces, and you have far better sources for Debiliate....
In general they really screwed over Magic overall and I have no idea why. Maybe we could have gotten something like Soul Hackers 2 Magic Crit Ability to at least try and level them out?.
just to make mitsuru fans sad
idk why yall are acting like characters with maxed stats and a shuffle time card that is completely random is at all indicative of actual realistic viability
@@mediumll9742 that's because even if we take all of that away they're still better lol
@@tuvieeclipsa party of akihiko junpei and koromaru? nah. junpei and koromaru, sure, but if you have akihiko as the third slot in this party you don’t have attack buffs after turn 3, which is a problem for something like the final boss that can’t be killed in 3 turns, and akihiko being completely reliant on buff amp. and akihiko doesn’t even outdamage mitsuru WITH buff amp.
you have no way of consistently getting akihiko concentrate without using yukari meaning his theurgy gets far outdamaged by mitsuru. even his gods hand gets outdamaged by diamond dust when he doesn’t crit.
@@mediumll9742 you did not just say mitsuru outdamages akihiko lol
Ironic how the life giving persona is the reason Junpei can one shot the reaper with Magic.
Whats the music in the final section of the video?
fate is on our hands
@@tuvieeclips thanks
😮
And my big brother saying that Junpei is the worst character. Da man carried my whole team when i faced Nyx 😂
Quick question tho, would you ever consider releasing your save file for us to download?
maybe i could
How you got everyone with concentrate?
queens cup card shuffle time
The power of simping for a 10/10 woman. Jokes aside, it doesn't surprise me that Junpei is the best mage in the game.
question... why are we bullying mitsuru???
Because the Magic Dps character failed as Magic Dps
What is the song at the end?
fate is on our hands p3 movies
Can the dog solo the reaper?
sadly no, getsu-ei is his strongest move but he can only do around 5k which is still huge for a """medium""" slash attack