thanks for posting this. also thanks to the participants who have allowed their very personal life story to be put out there. john's comment about being heckled at school about have a same-sex parental relationship resonated with me.
It’s concerning to me that the counselor doesn’t seem to register the fears the mom has about her son attending an IFB church. He acknowledges them, but only on the surface and it seems to me that he pretty quickly aligns the narrative in favor of trusting the son enough to let him attend the church. The IFB isn’t just your ordinary Baptist church. Though most churches won’t fully accept queer people, the IFB is much more homophobic and misogynistic. Women can’t wear pants, you can’t play cards, or swim with the opposite gender. The mom’s comment about the church’s history of abducting and abusing children could be in reference to the troubled teen industry that exists within IFB circles, which are known to be exploitative and abusive. Just look up the stories of people who have previously been sent to their troubled teen centers. The mom’s concern isn’t just over her son attending a church, it’s over her son wanting to attend an organization that many believe to be cult-like and which has a history of extreme homophobia and control.
Is Dr. Bitter the name of the therapist, or the interviewer in the beginning? Because it sounds like the interviewer calls the therapist "Graham" in the beginning of the video
Is he 'just jotting down a few notes" or is he "getting them verbatum as [they] say them"? It can't be both. That kind of dishonesty would raise my alert with a therapist in no time flat. Be consistent, honest, and don't downplay what you are doing. Also, those women are right that their son is being victimized and indoctrinated and they need to learn and teach their son about "love bombing" that religious people do to get new members.
I would disagree... I think you can jot down a few notes with verbatim quotes from the participants. You don't have to write down everything they say, but you can put quotation marks around verbatim comments, which provide the essence of a story.
@@craigbugden9076 But then you run the risk of misquoting or losing context, I know there isn't a happy medium but that is how therapeutic abuse can seed.
@@Archie0pteryx I'm wondering where you're getting this perspective from. I'm not sure how taking notes would be dishonest, he's not hiding them from them. Clients are also privy to the information in their file and can request it whenever they want. Additionally, therapists often summarize or reflect on what the client has said in an effort to fully grasp the concept and avoid the "misquoting or losing context" that you referred to. Notes can be essential and there are no specific rules as to how therapists can take them. Many choose to develop genograms of the family and work with them to understand the structure. Many take narrative notes. Many take bullet point notes. It's up to the therapist how they do it. However, if the client is uncomfortable with note-taking, they can voice that to the therapist who, the, can honestly explain how that might (or might not) impact their ability to retain information.
@@elm.5825 Well I wrote that three years ago I don't remember this video at all. If I decide to loop back and watch it I'll chime in Taking notes is not intrinsically dishonest so it must be contextual to whatever went on here.
Remarkable work. I'm doing a paper on narrative therapy in couples therapy, and it opened my mind to what this is.
This an awesome video! thankful or the patients allowing their lives to be viewed so transparently and dr. bitter for this video.
thanks for posting this. also thanks to the participants who have allowed their very personal life story to be put out there. john's comment about being heckled at school about have a same-sex parental relationship resonated with me.
This indeed was a great video.
Thank you for this video on this brilliantly executed technique.
It’s concerning to me that the counselor doesn’t seem to register the fears the mom has about her son attending an IFB church. He acknowledges them, but only on the surface and it seems to me that he pretty quickly aligns the narrative in favor of trusting the son enough to let him attend the church. The IFB isn’t just your ordinary Baptist church. Though most churches won’t fully accept queer people, the IFB is much more homophobic and misogynistic. Women can’t wear pants, you can’t play cards, or swim with the opposite gender. The mom’s comment about the church’s history of abducting and abusing children could be in reference to the troubled teen industry that exists within IFB circles, which are known to be exploitative and abusive. Just look up the stories of people who have previously been sent to their troubled teen centers. The mom’s concern isn’t just over her son attending a church, it’s over her son wanting to attend an organization that many believe to be cult-like and which has a history of extreme homophobia and control.
agree
Really liked this video. Very helpful in learning Narrative Therapy
Externalizing the problem which he has identified as fear. Watch you can hear him make fear an entity in itself.
Are there more excerpts from Dr. Bitter? I like his style.
Is Dr. Bitter the name of the therapist, or the interviewer in the beginning? Because it sounds like the interviewer calls the therapist "Graham" in the beginning of the video
More experts on this technique or counseling/psychology in general? There are more experts however, he does it so seamlessly 😊
Fantastic.
More, please.
Wonder what happened in the church - if he went....
Thanks!
wonderful
Abducted and tortured? Any links?
Therapists should not be allowed to wear Hawaiian shirts.
My thoughts exactly!
Agree, I promise I will never wear one :)
Why not? I don't get it.
ha-wai not?
😂
Is he 'just jotting down a few notes" or is he "getting them verbatum as [they] say them"? It can't be both. That kind of dishonesty would raise my alert with a therapist in no time flat. Be consistent, honest, and don't downplay what you are doing.
Also, those women are right that their son is being victimized and indoctrinated and they need to learn and teach their son about "love bombing" that religious people do to get new members.
I would disagree... I think you can jot down a few notes with verbatim quotes from the participants. You don't have to write down everything they say, but you can put quotation marks around verbatim comments, which provide the essence of a story.
@@craigbugden9076 But then you run the risk of misquoting or losing context, I know there isn't a happy medium but that is how therapeutic abuse can seed.
@@Archie0pteryx I'm wondering where you're getting this perspective from. I'm not sure how taking notes would be dishonest, he's not hiding them from them. Clients are also privy to the information in their file and can request it whenever they want. Additionally, therapists often summarize or reflect on what the client has said in an effort to fully grasp the concept and avoid the "misquoting or losing context" that you referred to. Notes can be essential and there are no specific rules as to how therapists can take them. Many choose to develop genograms of the family and work with them to understand the structure. Many take narrative notes. Many take bullet point notes. It's up to the therapist how they do it. However, if the client is uncomfortable with note-taking, they can voice that to the therapist who, the, can honestly explain how that might (or might not) impact their ability to retain information.
@@elm.5825 Well I wrote that three years ago I don't remember this video at all. If I decide to loop back and watch it I'll chime in
Taking notes is not intrinsically dishonest so it must be contextual to whatever went on here.
Let him go to church Jesus christ is real! He loves you to lesbians