Korea Huge Meso and Reboot NERFS.. why???
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- Опубликовано: 19 янв 2024
- So, they actually did it.. slightly reduced the cost of the recubing, but still this is insane. I expect full retalliation of all servers, mostly of all the (more recent) Korea Reboot players who are basically artificially pushed back to non-Reboot to be milked for more money there.
We definitely have not heard the last of this, let me know how YOU think Korea will handle, change and possibly salvage this situation!
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Next hyper burn in kms is gonna feel great at 260 with rare potential and 10* RIP
if u manage to kill mobs above chu chu that is
It's like Nexon has no knowledge of maplestorys gameplay
If this patch comes to GMS the game will die in GMS
saying it like its a bad thing
@@I-VisiBomb-I your not wrong lmao
It probably won’t, as it would be cancelled so hard in KMS before it even have a chance to reach here.
if these changes came to gms private servers would just end up with huge player bases
I doubt it honestly. I think it would just be a mass exodus from the game. Complete liberation 🙏
Yea a few friends and I all made a pact to quit and start playing on an old school private server if these changes go through to gms
"if" lol
That means lomien mules will be making a big fat 240 mil a week. Amazing.
peoples weekly income went from 20b to 2b
Not to mention how impenetrable the game would become to new players. Imagine trying to start on reboot with less than 1/5th meso, all cubing a minimum of 2x as expensive, no cubes of any kind from bossing, and ursus got removed. A brand new player in that environment could take months to do what a character now could do in weeks; I'd certainly never have bothered investing the time to progress with so many restrictions.
Nexon when they improve the game: Counter-weight everything!
Nexon when they nerf the game: Take it all!
New KMS director hates reboot confirmed(?)
This was in Response to KMS whales whining
Wanna say that someone over in korea reported the potential changes to the FTC with the concern than it would affect the underlying reason players would buy vac pets and they replied back confirming that pushing the meso cap patch would be basically cheating every single player that bought vac pets so they would(?) investigate again? that or maybe nexon would be forced to give a "partial refund" back to the players which probably is just some maple points to everyone that no one will actually end up using because everyone has quit at that point.
I did see that, too. Definitely a valid concern.
The Korean FTC also noted that Nexon is being closely watched going into the future so they can react much faster on any future issues, in case Nexon tries to do something again or retaliates in an illegal way.
Its crazy ive only seen u, copper and niru from gms report on this and be critical of it.
why are the devs making this game worse and worse every year, games are meant to be fun to paly and not feel like a job??
Money 🤑
i love maple so much but i already have a job and sadly the bills wont accept mesos as payment =/
thy cant stop botter hehe
many ppl use python for botting.
Just shut this game down Nexon
Reboot is dying because Nexon is trying to kill it. If you're unsure why, reason is usually money.
Lucky for you though, maplestory is only one of many mmorpgs you can play.
Hoping maple would be revived by a mentally stable publisher in the future.
Yes, indeed. This happened in SEA for years, and many players have left since then but they just turn a blind eye as long as the whales are still there to spend.
I just dont understand, theyre just pulling a Unity here by just hurting their players for 0 reason
like i genuinely dont understand what they gain here???
Yup.. they allude vaguely to some other meso gaining in the future.. but with zero detail. How can anyone be expected to just sit there and trust them with all they have done in the past...
All the changes are horrible, but the final nail in the coffin for me was ursus removal.
51:19 wow who would've expected you defending the changes.
Maple players just love to get screwed all the time. Nexon has been screwing them for 20 years but well the players still like to play so, my opinion all hard core and casual maple players deserve to keep getting screwed LOL for letting this zombie company survive and not forcing them to sell a gem of a game maplestory was to another better company that actually cares for the content and health of the game.
one thing i could never understand, why does 25 star exist if its impossible to achieve?
Technically it is possible and in other regions there is safeguarding up to 25.
To me it seems like you said we get more than Korea, which I think is true, and that for us things could be different because of that. However my counter point is the past and how we lose things to not get too far ahead time wise than our overseas original. I would say look at pot-able badges, but that's not enough because we lost a lot it seems to not be too too different and pull ahead. Look at kishin, nerfed twice then removed and totems all the while removed except a p2w option frenzy totem, look at how monster hp has changed in the guise of making things easier for early and mid game it just overall contributed to lowering how fast we progress (fair or not that is apart of my point about keeping us under the microscope), look at MP3 because that whole legacy area lost its use not when it was removed from the game, but when the mesos was nerfed there in more than just MP3 that whole content, and even more legacy things are removed not because out with the old (korea didn't have that stuff so it isn't old or new to them) it is because they don't want other servers to be too different from the brand, or progress too fast. No doubt in my mind this change that was just done to kms last week as I write will come to GMS the same and it will be really odd to ever compare reboot to being more friendly toward newer, f2p, or low paying players. normal servers will just have the same changes, but with their cavoite being things like trading, the market, cash items, and bonus potential.
nexon: "We are making the game unplayable, but just trust us bro, it will be better in the future."
*picture of the KMS director giving reboot the middle finger*
Maybe too late to say this but maybe they are hitting both servers (reg and reboot) so people dont stop playing reg cus if they hit reg servers so hard and leave reboot untouched people gonna stop playing reg and jump to reboot and they gonna lose a lot of money in the process
How the hell do they come up with the absolutely worse ideas known to man. They can barely run the game and have no clue how these changes will effect the game and market, thats why they are rushing the changes to live server so they can see what it does.
Is there any updates on this?
It's been put into the live server pretty much unchanged, but Max did leave a note that there could be more regular patches and updates to it than the regular slower month+ update schedule.
@@Scardor Thanks for the info, keep up the vids!
Except the weekly dungeon is only for Sol Erda Energy for non-reboot and Sol Erda Energy and Fragments for Reboot, takes hours to do, and that is all they said that it gives.
Seems like they decided to just nerf the entire game. Bro do they want to keep their consumers or not? Like damn
Is this going to be big bang update part 2?
After this patch, many kms reboot users went to gms
Ooh is that so? Hope they don't get banned :o
I’m writing this under the knowledge you can still purchase mesos for real currency….
I guess my question would be how can you expect to be seen as a company that loves their players… when you can purchase more mesos with real currency transactions over how much you can physically play to obtain… it doesn’t make any sense.. I didn’t expect a lot from Nexon but this is just laughable..
"Currently 10% of mesos are coming from ursus" but when they cap farming meso and then cut boss crystal prices that 10% becomes ALOT larger. That is a shitty excuse lol.
If ursus gives 1b of 10b and 8b of the meso comes from farming and 1b comes from boss crystals. Reducing 8b to 150m (omegalul) will make that ratio shift by a LOT.
The problem with anti-cheat in maple, Beast Tamer, Kanna, Hayato, and Mo Xuan would keep getting banned.
Nah Maplestory is dead after this. Nexon said burn it all, burn it all!
Time to make 3 mesos farmers ig
Why change the entire game??? 2 years of progress on reboot just for it to change to an ironman server, literally brain rot
As someone that doesn't follow MapleStory for like a decade, can someone explain something to me. I keep hearing that KMS "whales" have been complaining and that was the root of all these changes and nerfs. Why did these players complain exactly? Was it like a territorial thing? People that get to a certain level (mostly through spending money) and now want to kick the ladder down or prevent anyone else from having fun?
And honestly looking at those Meso limits, considering how much things have costed in MapleStory historically, seems crazy low.
People who spend money were upset there was an entire server that could do so much so quickly, for free, due to things like 6x meso, boss drop increase, FD etc. That doesn't seem fair to them because only people who spend thousands of dollars on a 2D PVE monster killing game would be upset. Those players either need to quit or go to reg to bow before their greatness. Like Lost Ark, another Korean MMO, a small, tiny minority that spend *tons* of money control the developers
@@starbreeze7249but reboot is easy mode isn't it 🤔
@@JohnDoe-cg8frif easy mode was farming for 3 weeks to get 1 additional star on an item then yea.
@@yimwee2401 mate you make it sound like you want the star give to you for free, on top of the boosted meso rates.
The main reason as to why reboot getting these nerfs, or rather becoming the same as reg server, is because reboot cannot be the incentivised server to play in.
Hence reboot cannot keep these meso/economic advantages that reg server doesnt have even though reboot doesnt even have an economy.
Reboot is at least 63% of the current GMS population, probably more than that. Everyone who is new, seasonal, or casual, play on Reboot because Reboot is the incentive. Making Reboot more like Reg gives the incentive to quit the game, not move to Reg, or play on it. MS is already an outdated MMO with outdated concepts, no one is gonna waste their money on it
@@starbreeze7249 Not for KMS at least, they can't make changes that allow reboot server to be the remain or seen as the more incentivised server. Thats why changes for them would never be favourable for reboot for the time being. The alternative of buffing the reg server would proabably nvr happen since they dont want players to progress fast. Look at what it took for them to make reg server cubes more affordable, and the collateral they came up with along with these changes.
Giving reg server, reboot cube price and meso rate is out of the question because it would sky rocket progression too much. And even then, reboot would still have the passive final damage passive, albeit being nerf, because it allows players to not deal with scrolling/tracing and bonus potential. This is probably why decide to nerf reboot to the ground. Not saying what they are doing are right or wrong, but its probably why they did it.
GMS was probably never in their thought process when coming up with these changes. These changes may highly likely kill GMS, which I don't think are part of their intention when coming up with these changes.
Just have to pray GMS team are able to stop these changes, whether fully or partially, for GMS to have a chance to survive.
"We plan to increase the number of ways to acquire mesos through other methods in the future. We ask for your generous understanding."
This is not increasing the farming cap, this is doing things like Maple Tour to hand out more mesos.
Maybe GMS does this and maple tour gives more mesos and for reboot weekly reward on guild castle gives a lot of mesos now.
Deflation overall is a good thing, but you need to do it right. It is like deflating your pay, but eggs cost $10 per dozen, so you just made an unlivable country without also reducing the price for eggs.
Pay and cost for products both need to go down for deflation to work properly.
im getting a rotten tomato to the face for this, but when i grind for fam cards the meso bags block them from view and need to collect that sht constantly, so one upside in this mess
LOL
are you... farming without a pet?
reboot doesnt have perma vac, so with pet or without, takes a few to collect all meso bags @@navigator2113
Time to hoard sus cubes lol
gms will soon fail too
We ask for full NX refund.
att% is always better, the value of att% is insanely high, especially when you get all of that flat attack from starforcing.
plus superior set has 35 att on the set bonus and superior belt base stats have 35 att, fafnir set bonus has a whopping 50 att, and stuff like that makes the value of att% goes up.
depends on class, going 9/0/0 isnt bis for everyone
@@Verkern My dog pooped today.
@@Verkern My dog pooped today.
Usually when they "nerf reboot" it results in offering something else which results in a net buff still.
In this case it is REALLY REALLY BAD!!
Non-Reboot gets a massive buff, as a result they got to nerf Reboot.
Why did they nerf Reboot? For the lulls because they felt like it.
There is no reason whatsoever for a reboot nerf here, non-reboot could just get buffed and that is it, they offered absolutely nothing that would improve the reboot experience that would make sense for balance reasons to give a reboot nerf.
This is something where it actually does make sense to go "#boycottNexon"
I am down for deflation and number compression for damage numbers and mob/boss hp, but you got to do this stuff right.
For example: Instead of making increased mesos, whenever we get exp from any source and in any way possible, we will fill up an energy metre, and that energy can be used in the same way as mesos, but it is locked to that character. This would offer a better new player experience too with a faster single-character play rate, especially with events like terra blink that give you exp, but not mesos.
This offers a way to still realistically progress the character's gear, but you got to actually progress that character to make it stronger since the mesos you make (and be transferred over) is way down so you cannot do things like have a bunch of bossing character, make those characters stronger quickly, and then all of those characters make your strongest character even stronger, faster.
This would go on the premise of solo character progression and you got to actually play that character to progress that character. While on non-reboot you can trade and transfer equips over offering a different progression and play experience between worlds.
“My dog pooped today”
Reboot had higher drop rate, higher exp rates, 5x meso rate, more meso from boss crystals, had the FD passive that matched scrolling/legendary Bpot, and could buy cubes, moster park tickets, Hyper rock, inventory/character slots all for meso.
Its wild Nexon Korea let reboot outclass Reg in nearly every way in terms of character progression and quality of life. The only reason I played reg over Reboot is purely based on sunk cost fallacy, cosmetics, and trading.
The KMS playerbase finally discovered how much better reboot was over Reg last year and migrated over. Now Nexon is nerfing Reboot to stop the majority of the player base from leaving Reg server. If Reboot was left untouched KMS reg server would die and Reboot would become the more popular server just like in GMS.
Nexon cant have their pay pigs leave the P2W server.
This is what I've been saying for years. Maybe reboot wasn't as overtuned back in cra/magnus days because gearing was, yknow, actually hard, but it was GIGA overtuned since 5th job. We're talking multiple years faster progression compared to reg.
How to make it obvious you never touched reboot
Sorry but Reboot is way harder than reg server in every aspect, reg players can just storage all items and buy all sheeet with one click. So nahh, reboot is pure effort compared to reg server.
@@marcomorgadoherrera6239 This is delusion or malicious trolling.
We already know for a fact reboot is easier.
The only way for reg to be easier is if you drop $100k. Otherwise your progression will be 3-5 times slower than a f2p reboot player because the meso bottleneck is so massive.
@@Sam-vi2ho tbh "multiple years faster progression" is a shit take, as from the get go it shouldn't take years to progress in any game. The reality is that MMOs today cannot have the same super slow progression pace as the past anymore if they truly want to continuously bring new blood into the game. Most MMOs know this and provide in game boosting events/services to speed progression up to pace, like the Identisk one.
I don't think anyone would complain as hard if GMS reg for example gets increased meso rates (probably 2-3x if balance is truly an issue) AND the new cube system right now, and reboot gets completely untouched.
As long as there is a pre-nerf reboot server in KMS, there is no need to play on a regular server. Because the growth rate of reboot servers is very fast... Rather than actually spending a lot of money, you just reboot.
Nobody will Play Reboot now big downgrade… reg Server much Better
@@timgustmann he might mean in Maple Worlds, where they also remade an oldschool server that is pretty popular.
The problem is thinking people will move to Reg servers when the reality is people will just quit
this game is so bad i quited and wont ever come back as u can see along the years nexon destroys the game everytime more and more fuck this shit
Nexon finally did it, they finally killed maplestory.
KMS cubes cost more than GMS cubes and KMS has way worse rates than GMS, so don't pay attention to the rates and mesos prices, plus we don't know if GMS would do this because it might make it harder for the overseas team to code for the other regions - especially with the recent cube changes.
first 🎉
40% drop 20% mesos is already possible, and see how many people have that. Raise your hand if you have.
What is that? No hands? That is what i thought.
i have it lol
@@samueldauphinais1024 In your dreams does not count.
MapleStory is still one of the biggest MMOs in the world, let alone Nexon's biggest IP.
it takes 2-3 hours of farming mobs per day to hit mesos cap for non-reboot, which over 99.9% of players don't play that much, so really that part affects no one.
The most it affects actually are just bots.
99.9% of players dont farm 2-3 hours a day?? are u high? id say that more people do farm that much than dont lol
@@zeb3403 No they don't, that is pure delusion and showcases a lack of understanding in people.
Most people barely have time to do their dailies or do not do their dailies at all, let alone farm for hours.
@MasterStacona did you forget the part where they are getting rid of majority of boss crystal income. Casual players won't be able to progress at all let alone through farming.
Just look at some of the other crap this guy is spam commenting about - i'm not even convinced their a real human let alone capable of math@@mysticolored
@@mysticolored nerfing with no reason or logic is bad, if they had a substitute system in place of some kind then it would be for balance reasons
this is just the director flipping off reboot however
Why people keep complaining about nexon decisions when this company is making bad decisions for more than 10 years, like what do you expect? 😂😂 if you keep playing Maple it’s your own fault, just quit this trash and stop being a 🤡🤡😂😂
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