This is the first time I've seen officers disagree with medical staff by telling them it looks like a medical problem. There is something seriously wrong when you have police telling the hospital staff it looks like a medical problem.
@RainbowManificationnot necessarily the next er could’ve denied him saying he’s seeking drugs because that’s why he was discharged from the first hospital I have been kicked out even for drug seeking but I wasn’t lmao I ended up in a different hospital for over 18 days straight in less then 24 hours from being kicked out and trespassed cause I cried and said I want okay and they aren’t treating me right it’s despicable what our medical system is like rn
Normally, it is the doctor who makes these decisions and it falls on the RN to discharge people. The doctor can say he did everything he could but the investigation will help with that. I wonder if they did a CT scan and blood work. I'd like to see his CBC and CMP myself and the CT scan if one was ever done. However, we don't know the full story yet. I'll make my call once I see everything but I'll be damned if they shouldn't have done more if this was a neuro change in this guy. Livid.
I was an EMT for years. We would pour out compassion and kindness on our patients all the way to the hospital. Then turn them over to some of the meanest nastiest uncaring "medical professionals" you can imagine. It burned me out. I witnessed doctors and nurses not caring properly for patients we had fought to keep alive. They were so snotty and uninterested and just did not care one bit. Our patients became dehumanized the moment they entered the ER and we had to leave them there. I was a patient three times at that same hospital and was treated with the same disgust and cold disdain. Hospitals are nothing like we think.
As someone that had to call 911 one time in my entire life because of vomiting and bloody Diarrhea, the EMTs were great to me, however once I got into the ER I was treated worse than livestock at a slaughter house. They made me go home even though I still was passing bloody diarrhea.
I had to be transported by ambulance a few times and every time the EMTs were so kind and trying to make me comfortable given the situation (all psych related incidents). Meanwhile with actual doctors and nurses it really is so hit-and-miss. Theres a nurse at the hospital in my old town where every time he knew I was there or saw me he would come and make sure to say hi and talk to me if he had time 😭❤️ he was the best nurse in that hospital even if he couldn't do my IV's without sticking me 4 times lmfao
Oh....but almost worse is the way it begins: _"Providence is sorry about the death of Jean Descamps...."_ . I would almost suggest that their communication was the result of AI-generated text, but I suspect that if that were the case we would be presented with something more humane.
Healthcare is in major decline in America. From simple poor bedside manner to lying in doctors’ notes to literal malpractice that deserves licensing revocation and/or prison.
Land Of The Greed! There should NEVER BE “FOR PROFIT” HEALTH CARE!!! There are sooooooo many other Countries Models that TREAT PEOPLE! H$LL Even Cuba has a Better Health Care System!!!
Have you ever watched your After-visit summaries online? Three times I witnessed them change the notes amid a complaint I had. Surreal and chilling in my opinion. Kaiser has been just eye-opening to what I thought I had already seen.
@babskaz74 literally what? No… there have been thousands of illnesses that didn’t disabled and dismantle our health care system what excuse is this lol literally no lol
20 years ago my mother was at this hospital and had surgery to repair a hernia. She had excellent insurance. My mom was obviously not doing well and I told the nurses she was not ready to go home. The nurse said that if I wanted to have her readmittided we would have to go back through emergency . I took her home and two hours later she was dead. She died of a massive pulmonary embolism. If those damn nurses would have paid attention to her symptoms this never would have happened. The head nurse tore out her medication chart papers right in front of me! I told her she couldn't do that and she said she could. They didn't give my mom the blood thinner she was supposed to have. This makes me SICK! I HOPE THEY GET SUED!
malpractice at the very least, but Criminal negligence and involuntary manslaughter charges should definitely be filed. A doctor that incompetent cannot be trusted with patients if they can’t even put their own biases aside for someone clearly in a medical emergency.
Yes, bad doctor, but they also get burn out from dealing with junkies all the time. It's hard to detriment exactly if the problem is real or not when dealing with someone who hasn't slept for 3 days, and has enough chemicals in their blood to kill a horse. - former EMT
shut it down and fire everyone without pay or unemployment benefits. this type of behavior is unacceptable and needs to be made an example of... otherwise, this is just another Louisville, KY patient dumping case.
I still blame the hospital either way, though. The cops did question them, and they insisted he was fine. Theyre the experts and shouldve known better. @tamijapink6671
Just today I went to visit my ex husband who is in the hospital because he had a stroke earlier this week. There was blood coming out of his nose and mouth. I ran to the nurses to tell them and they told me "he did that to himself." He did not. My daughter went up to see him and a nurse that didn't know about what happened was furious with the other nurses and the doctor. This is appalling! We are going to file a complaint on Monday and transfer him to another hospital.
@yourlordship1119 My daughter has power of attorney and she decided to leave him where he is. She did have a conversation with another nurse that very day and she(the nurse)was not happy about his care. She said the doctor is an idiot. He is getting much better care now.
Make sure you stay on top of the doctors when you're there. Make sure they're doing their job, and ask a lot of questions. You need to do that whether you like the hospital and doctors or you don't. Sorry about your husband, I hope he makes a full recovery and is fine.
That was sickening. To know that he needed care and the doctors and nurses wrote it off as ‘behavioral’ makes me sick to my stomach. This is truly disgusting. Blood on their hands for negligence…
nurses are lazy know it alls who think they can diagnose patients just by looking at them i saw it all the time in medical school its why i dropped out i didnt want to surround myself with them. all they really cared about was having sex with their fellow co workers people become nurses and doctors to chase a fetish nowadays not to help people.
For sure, even without the shallow breaths and drugs he looked like death. After taking them he was clearly actively dying. The doctors and nurses who saw him and thought he should leave should get their licenses revoked for life. This is a horrific thing to see, disgusting.
They need to loose their license! That was a judgement call on how that patient looked. Should be ashamed of yourself! I’m in nursing school and I cannot wait to advocate for my patients as I do in my current position… just sickening!
Get out of nursing school or at least be an integrative medicine nurse or an alternative medicine nurse. Nurses these days are total bitches. Hopefully, you aren’t one, as you said you want to advocate for your patients. Good luck!
The cops will need counseling as well. They are obviously caring individuals who did not like the situation. They treated him with more respect than the hospital staff.
It doesn't matter who you are this is a duty of care.This was not the officers fault at all.The hospital employee was inhumane and should not be around individuals who need help ever.This is a hospital not a club where you get kicked out.
But what do you do when the doctor says he is medically ok? There needs to be an independent dr or nurse practitioner on call available to the police to cover their *ss & refuse to take him away. Unfortunately, the hospital may simply put him in the parking lot like another one did in recent months... 😠 Actually, if they start suspending or taking away license to practice, it would sort itself out.
@Meow4B happened to me actually 😂 I had 19 ovarian cyst I lost over 60lbs from it lol I’m a veteran 😂🤷♀️ sounds about right for VA care This surprises me for civilians tho (we also redirect to civilian care when vet care fails us lol) ❤
I truly believe the only way to survive a hospital trip is to have an advocate. I took my husband to the ER in Vancouver with a 15% heart function and the admitting ER doctor looked at us with disgust and said “he’s at 15% heart function and he’s going to die.” No emotion. It took me pushing and pushing and pushing to start figuring out why to do with him. To this day I wonder what would have happened to him if I hadn’t been there. He was 69 with a birth defect that caused a heart valve failure. At some point of pushing and pushing they finally brought in a cardiologist and she was AMAZING with a positive upbeat “we are going to do everything to fix you” attitude! I hate to think how they would have let him die. My heart aches for the family of this man. 😢
I ALWAYS recommend having an advocate. They wrote on my medical records that I was mentally ill because I gave them a list of food allergies… but I had the medical records from my allergist with the allergy test records to back it up… And they tried to give me a flu shot while I was dazed from childbirth. My husband had to stop them because I’m allergic…
When my dad lay dying I had asked the hospitalist to please call me because he was severely septic and it took an extra day before he called and he blamed me for not advising I wanted a call. I did ask when I saw that he got septic in the hospital while there to get chemotherapy. He also said “your father is going to die whether it’s today, tomorrow, or next week”. No compassion. He died 2 weeks later. I shouldn’t have to beg to get the doctor to pick up the phone. I also wanted to talk about the DNR because I didn’t want an automatic DNI (Do Not Intubate) and he said “it’s not your decision. It’s your dads”. I was the POA and if he spent some time with my dad and not talk down to him and make sure he was alert he would see he was not capable of making his own decisions. He even got the year of his birth wrong by a couple of years. I called and spoke to the charge nurse and I asked for a new doctor which we got thankfully because she was a saint. The man in this video was treated badly. I’ve got a lot of health issues myself and some admissions it was awful while others I got good care.
They should have criminal charges pressed. The medical staff, doctors, nurses, all of them. Despicable and criminal behaviors. How dare they deem his life worth ANY less than anyone else's.
This is one time the Police Officers knew he was too ill to leave and yet they are not given a choice. They told the staff at the hospital it wasn’t a police issue and they threw that right back in their face by saying, yes, it is….its so disgusting how caregivers lack compassion. It is sickening.
The Spokes person for the hospital said "we fell short in caring for this man" ARE YOU KIDDING ME. Any hospital personnel involved with this very sick man should be arrested and charged with MURDER!!!!!
If the nurse was Woke, then she wouldn’t care about the wellbeing of a white male. These Woke people are infesting the medical profession today, as they are everywhere else.
@adelahipolito7464 I am almost certain that its their departments policy to handcuff someone while being transported. They knew he wasnt in the physical state to do anything. They actually did seem to care about him and were upset at the failure of the hospital staff. Just because you dont like cops doesn't mean every single one is bad.
Healthcare is broken ~ I’m a 35 yr healthcare professional and it is like a battle zone every day but this is beyond tragic. Heart goes out to family ❤
@static_kitten doctors use big pharma. Big pharma funds the FDA. The FDA works with the CDC. Doctors adhere to the CDC. You see the evil loop? Big pharma, a business of making profits, controls everything. She could work in helping healing people rather than participate in sick care.
It doesn't matter who you are, a drug addict, an alcoholic, a homeless person, everyone has the right to be treated fairly and not judged. He needed help and they failed him. Justice needs to be served.
Coming from someone who’s chronically I’ll, they will still treat you badly if you’re not homeless or an addict. Those things just give them reasons to get away with it or take the mistreatment further.
@timhinchcliffe5372 Well this statement makes you more scummy than a person on drugs. Ironic that you think you're better than them with this type of morality.
Its everywhere. I took my mom to 4 hospitals in 1 day because her stomach hurt bad they told her she was constipated to take laxatives. It was her heart she passed a month later from heart failure!!!!! Will never forget. Remember this ladies not everyone has the same symptoms.
@snickerswo1f519 you discuss me your no better then the staff at that hospital if you don't have something positive to say then go kick rocks with flip flop k bud
@mikebond6558there is a question mark " ? " behind the words posted by snickerswo1f519 indicating that a question was being asked, not a statement being made or a rude comment about the young gentleman that was so unforgivably horribly mistreated by the staff in that hospital. I can see why that question was asked because nothing in the video implied homelessness or addiction although I am sure those pathetic excuses for human beings doctors and nurses thought exactly that. My condolences to the family and best wishes for anything and everything that will help you heal from your loss 😞 Also hella respect for those police officers that actually showed care and concern... It's nice to see there really are some good ones out there ✌️
Here is a dirty little secret. Hospitals discharge patients early so they don’t die at their facility and mess up their awards for the year. Especially the poor and marginalized. That man was emaciated and ill and deserved compassionate care. They failed him.
Don't make it up as you go along without studying out your claims. Hospital have serious repercussions for an early discharge that leads to death. They don't discharge patients so they don't die in the hospital. Think, for once, if you can.
Even the cops knew better, they tried. Shame on everyone at the hospital. I hope anyone involved in this case gets fired. He clearly was not ok and I’m not in the medical field and I see that! Prayers for Jean. I hope he has some family that can sue for medical negligence. I’m so disappointed in our country as a whole. At least the cops tried on his behalf.
This goes on in all hospital's the ER is one bad place the people behind the desk are not healthcare providers they think they know it all, my dad was in the middle of a heart attack sitting in the lobby they wouldn't do any thing I went and kinda of raised my voice to them a nurse heard me and went to my dad took him back he had heart surgery
A few years ago I admitted my mother to this hospital. I was not impressed with the ER staff. However,once she got admitted into the Geriatric ward,the people up there were INCREDIBLE. They saved my mothers life,and I got to spend some more time with her before she passed.
There are a couple hospitals in my area that I will NEVER go to the ER at. My sister's best friend was in diabetic keto-acidosis, she was dying. So my sister, a nurse, brought her to the ER that was closest, one of the ones I'll never go to. The ER nurses accused her of faking it to get meds. My sister didn't want to pull rank with the nurse, so she called the attending physician in the ER that night as she was friends with her. The doctor came down, took a look at her, and had her immediately admitted to the ICU, she spent almost a week in the hospital. Always bring an advocate if you can, and don't ever be afraid to ask questions or stand up for yourself if you think something isn't right.
My mum was told by the doctor in the hospital that he doesn’t like difficult patients and only likes the easy ones that he can fix. He said this in front of everyone and thought it was funny but looked annoyed at the same time. My mum said well she doesn’t care and she needs help, she can’t help that she has a difficult case that no one can seem to solve the issues. They kept trying to discharge her even though she couldn’t walk and was in immense pain. When she said she felt like ending her life because of the pain they then sent her a mental health nurse and said they may need to take her to the mental ward but still didn’t want to help her with what she was there for. She was there 12 days and ended up having 2 surgeries and sent home with strong medication. Public hospitals do not care about patients they just want a high turnover.
@giftofthewild6665 they’re still unsure but she’s been sent to the women’s pain clinic for bowel/bladder issues. She had a colonoscopy and a cystectomy, and they suspect she has neuralgia? Nerve pain/damage and she has been trailing different drugs for the last 6 months. Unfortunately it’s a very slow process.
I’m a stay at home mom and even I could see this young man clearly needed to be in a hospital receiving medical care. This is disgusting. All of this was preventable.
Well did you see his wounds . He was very ill from the harsh drug addiction . The frankendope they sell to day is horrible full of twenty kinds of stuff humans shouldn't be putting into themselves . They thought just another junkie looking for free dope , or maybe someone thought it was better to let him die. Terrible situation. Poor guy .
Don't devalue yourself as a stay at home mother. You have one of the most important jobs in the world. Unfortunately, if you live in the States, you earn no SS credits for raising children, unlike other countries. Hopefully this changes in my lifetime. Enjoy your children!
I keep seeing people say that this man, Jean, was on drugs but if you actually look at him and listen to the officers they call him “non-verbal”. I see someone with a developmental disability??…I also might be very wrong but either way it shouldn’t have mattered! I’m with you, this man clearly needed care and instead he was judged by his appearance and his physical differences and treated like trash. Those involved need to be held accountable. So sorry for his family.
I just do not understand how they could look at him and say he was just behaving badly. That is so incredibly heart breaking. Makes me think the medical staff had something against him.
It’s so sad to see how jaded the medical community has become. The police showed this man more empathy and compassion then the trained professional caretakers. Let’s bring back empathy in 2024. The man was obviously on deaths door and was treated like an annoyance by the hospital. Shame on them!! RIP to the guy that lost his life. ❤
Oh come on! No one in their right mind would have thought that guy was ok. Those cops should have absolutely refused to remove this man from the hospital! And why were the cops called? For a discharge?
It's possible that if the cops refused to take him the staff could have had security remove him from the premises. The outcome would've been the same but at least with the cops they were trying to get him help and he wasn't alone on the street. Everything about this is heartbreaking and horrible
It's on the insurance systems at well. Performance metrics affect billings, and ability to serve Medicare, or other insurance companies. It's why I left my work in US Healthcare and returned to Canada where 3rd party billing doesn't run health decisions.
@joywebster2678Absolutely! The insurance companies dictate the care you receive. Not the acuity of illness, or needs of the patient. I've watched patients being discharged too soon from the hospital due to insurance. Our healthcare system is not set up to create good patient outcomes. Even though hospital advertising will have you thinking otherwise!
If the cops hadn't taken him out of the hospital he wouldn't have died in the back seat of their car. Had they just waited 10 15 more minutes when his heart crashed he would have been in a hospital and they could have forced the hospital to take care of him. But since they took the man out of the hospital when his heart crashed he died in the backseat of their cruiser. They are at fault. They don't have the majority of the fault but they do have some of it. Had they left the man where he was he might be alive today. And no they didn't have to leave him where he was and leave. Like for some reason everyone says they have to. They could have waited there for 10 minutes for him to have his heart attack. But they didn't.
When I had zero insurance,,, I broke my arm and shoulder very badly,,, my dog pulled me into a big muddy area, I fell backwards, demolishing my right side. Eventually someone called an ambulance because I was in shock and could not move.. I was taken to the Trauma center at the hospital,,, I would have been sent home just velcroed up,,, but a Dr, pushed through the red tape of my non insured status,,, I’m 71 today, thank God for a world class surgeon who fixed everything and I was covered, under Medi-cal. I live in California. I don’t think this is the case now, to cover everything. It’s heartbreaking.
yeah that’s why you people should be protesting for better pay and health insurance cause the government is stealing from y’all since the rich won’t pay their taxes
The hospital allowed him to die because he was poor and they didn't find him worth treating. It's happening too much in this country and it's sad that our government would rather send billions to other countries for wars. We choose war over life. God bless his family because they'll never get over his final hours of life being treated like that.
I went to an internal medicine clinic at Providence for a year for hypertension. They ordered an echo which showed I had a heart attack. The doctor that was sitting in for my usual doctor told me, at the next visit, “your heart is in perfect shape!” Hospitals in the Providence orbit don’t care if we suffer or die.
He was overdosing. The hospital gave him "a little" Narcan but didn't do a toxicology screening. The state medical examiner ruled the cause of death "drug overdose and contributing natural causes." Learn to use Google.
It's because of the laws protecting people who abuse the ER visits. They pretend to be sick so they can stay in a hospital bed for the night. I know, because i used to work in ER.
My aunt used to work at a retirement home in a city in California. She always dreaded sending her residents to the hospital. She said more often than not, her residents would return home worse or not return home at all. It's despicable what hospitals do to the poor and elderly! It's like if they don't have money, they don't get care, doesn't matter what the law says about it.
Absolutely true. I was a nurse in a long-term health facility and hated if our mostly dependent or seriously I'll patients had to be gone more than a couple days. They ALWAYS came back with bed sores that took MONTHS to heal.
I remember when I kept having asthma attacks due to not having a certain medication that I didn’t have money for. The doctor bought the meds for me. I didn’t have an attack for a long time! We need people that have just a little bit of empathy! Even tho I don’t have any problems now with my asthma,I still think of this doctor!
That’s pretty damn nice of them! Nowadays they may want to help and intervene but would get in trouble with the ‘system’ due to being too kind…shame we can have more consideration in the medical industry
So you expect doctors to pay for all of their patients medicine? You got lucky. You got a nice doctor who took pity on you specifically. Imagine if you did that with all of his patients. He would have no money and would not be able to be a doctor anymore. You can't expect other people to pay for everything. Because they have to pay for their own things. Empathy goes a long way but no I'm not about to hurt myself for you.
My heart is utterly broken for this man and I am enraged with anger by the cold, distant, inhumane manner in which hospital staff looked wt him, cared for him and treated him. This man was completely emaciated, extremely ill and I truly hope each responsible for discharging this man and then refusing him stabilizing treatment, are harshly punished, most certainly fired and are sued.
@emrylane09_13 Very true and know many nurses that would've resisted this mans horrible treatment yet regardless of being overworked, perhaps underpaid and miserable in healthcare positions, at what moment does human compassion evaporate from one's mind or heart? I worked as a CNA for several years and know all about the horrors of these healthcare positions and how badly I hated my job eventually but never once was the job I chose to pursue/keep or how overworked I and many were, cause me to treat those dependent on my care and compassion, with less than all they needed.
Even if he didn’t have medical insurance they cannot discharge an unstable person. If he died on route to another facility he was NOT stable. There is a law called EMTALA and heads will roll at this facility
From the looks of it he was mostly stable when he was discharged, he then became unresponsive AFTER they tried to get him to leave, they likely didn’t reevaluate him but rather just accused him of playing possum. The problem was due to a lack of compassion from staff not wanting to deal with the guy, NOT the hospital admin. This was nurses and a doctor that killed him not a guy in a suit.
@Johndoe12145 to be fair only a doctor has the authority to discharge a patient. Also he was not stable when he left if he died not long after leaving. It’s impossible.
@Johndoe12145, the man was involuntarily drooling, could barely talk to anybody, and was slumped over. I believe they discharged him before he was ready.
Thank you Ezra Kaplan and KPTV, excellent research, outstanding reporting. The patient was in an acute medical crisis and should never have been discharged. This was not medical error. The man's state was blatantly obvious to anyone in the medical field, like I am. This was abandonment of a patient.
As someone who has been a patient my whole life and has a crippling amount of ptsd from doctors and hospitals, as well as a family full of hospital workers, i can tell you that this isn't that uncommon. The difference here is that these officers were heroes and genuinely cared! G-d bless them!
@pmc2999people really don’t understand what is happening unless they have been in one of our major cities ERs, usually at night. I fear this hospital is going to lose its federal money, and then it will close.
Absolutely heartbreaking. My son went in to detox today for alcohol my heart was breaking for my son and my heart is breaking for this family. addiction is so hard for people and that hospital needs to be held accountable for this !
I was sent to the hospital and I couldn't talk. It wasn't behavioral it was cardiac related! The nurse denied my medication for so long my heart rhythm became irregular. I barely got the words "charge nurse" out before I lost consciousness. When I came to there were several doctors standing around trying to figure out what happened! I was terrified! I can imagine how that poor guy felt! When the people you trust to help when you're in need can't be bothered to care they should be held accountable!
@eggnogalcoholic The "Charge Nurse" is the one the regular floor nurses have to report to. I called the charge nurse because my nurse was ignoring me on purpose. Sometimes nurses think they know better than the doctor that prescribed the medication and they go out of their way to prove their points! Sometimes they might be right but that time she wasn't.
I was refused treatment at Providence Portland. I went to ZoomCare the next day. Turns out I had an infection in my elbow joint that could have gone septic. Thanks Providence!
@klausthedog9670you know you can get an infection from a mere scrape or cut right? Its called Celluitis and i got it from a mosquito bite on my forearm. Got put on antibiotics because yes, it can turn septic and fatal within 72 hours.
Exactly why I laid at home for 14 hours with a shattered tibia and broken ankle until I could get into my doctor. Emergency rooms are inhumane and treat people like they are addicts if you are in pain. The system is seriously broken and this is unacceptable. My prayers for this man's family. 🙏💙
Yea no you probably have a problem. If you’re delaying emergency care (“shattered” bones are legitimate emergencies not just pain) just so you can get access to the drugs you want you have a drug problem.
@Johndoe12145 or as the rest of the world already knows, United States is a 3rd world shithole with some of the worst capitalist greedy for profit healthcare on the planet.
@Johndoe12145 I have chronic pain due to multiple surgeries and don't go to pain management because I DON'T want to take them daily. I have found alternative medicine works better. You are way off base.
I went to an ER for a Thunderclap headache, which *can* but not always indicates a brain bleed, do you know how long I waited to see a doctor? 3 HOURS, and by the time the pressure and pain in my head was gone.
I went to ER for chest pain and they thought I was on meth because my BP was elevated but that was just because I was nervous. They drug tested me and it can back clean then they were nicer but said it was just rib inflammation which it was, no signs of heart attack
I’m a type 1 diabetic, have been for about 23 years. About 3 years ago, I knew I was going into DKA. I’ve been through it many times and I know how my body feels in that situation. I went to emergency room at Sunrise Hospital in LV, NV and the doctor who treated me basically just said I was dehydrated. They gave me fluids and sent me home. ( my blood sugar was over 600 when I arrived) The next day I was sick as a dog and full blown DKA. Couldn’t walk, non stop vomiting. Was rushed by ambulance to the same exact hospital. Turns out yes, I was DKA and I also ( to my surprise) had a bone infection in my foot causing all types of issues as well many of them obvious as my right LEG WAS INSANELY SWOLLEN . ( initial doctor never looked into this further either) I was so upset at the doctor who basically told me I was fine and sent me home after a few hours. I was also angry at myself for not speaking up more and being an advocate for my health. As a result, I was in a much worse position and I spent the next 4 weeks in the hospital. 2 of those in the ICU. One of the endocrinologist who treated me was awesome, I can’t remember her name. She was absolutely appalled that the doctor sent me whom after some fluid via IV when i had those symptoms and medical history. Point of the story, there are medical professionals out there who don’t care about your well being and also don’t believe you when you tell them something is wrong. Ps to get an idea of how swollen my foot was, I normally wear a size 9. My swollen foot I had to wear a size 12 and that didn’t even fit correctly. I couldn’t bend my toes. Foot was pretty hot to the touch. My leg was black and blue from blood spilling out from damaged veins ( I got vein ablation to fix bleeding in both right and left leg from a fantastic team of specialist I see now) . So the problem was OBVIOUS. Ended up developing Charcot Joint as a result of bone infection. Also once I was home, did 6 weeks of infection treatment with a catheter of some type that was inserted in my arm and went to my heart. Sorry, I can’t remember the correct terminology. Thanks for reading. Don’t forget to show some kindness to people today y’all, I know sometimes it’s hard.
"...upset at myself for not speaking up and being and advocate for myself..." I'm slightly paraphrasing from OP, however, that bit jumped out at me. I'm going through a similar situation, and I'm struggling to get docs and staff to hear me.
I think the line you are talking about was a PICC (peripherally inserted central catheter)line. It's usually in the upper inner arm, or chest wall. When long term meds are needed, especially antibiotics, as they can be harsh, they'll use this line to keep better access
Appalling! For any diabetic who is feeling unwell, DKA should be a top consideration by any health professional. I assume your blood work was checked as you knew your sugar was 600 - absolute negligence!! No one should blame themselves for not speaking up. When patients do, they're often belittled or dismissed. It's only natural to trust an authority when they've gone through a decade of schooling and are wearing a uniform that says "don't question me". All it takes is for them to say "no you're wrong" for us to second guess the way our own bodies feel
Some hospitals " dump" patient's very ill right on the street...Those who take oaths often are the one's who hurt us...yeah,just lock someone away was the hospital's answer?? I pray this guy's family files suit and at least makes them pay...you can believe it's not their first time doing this...how horrific!
Erm, it's not up to the nurses to discharge a patient.. a doctor is the only one to make that decision. Whilst the patient was treated deplorably, it should be the doctor with whom the buck stops! My condolences to the family and RIP young man. This should have never happened.
I'm sure there are more signatures (nurses, support staff and admin) on the discharge orders besides the Physician. I hope those people are thinking real hard about what exactly they are putting their name to from now on. Ignorance is not an acceptable excuse.
@pollywallie1wow, I never knew USA admin, support staff & nurses could discharge a patient. In Australia it’s only the doctor who decides when to discharge & signs the discharge papers. As a former er nurse in Australia I never signed a discharge order or made that decision, it boggles my mind that admin personnel are involved in discharging patients in the US.
Any nurse, or doctor that entered that room should be held accountable for this mans death. Dude was in terrible shape and I bet the act of moving him from the hospital, is what pushed him over the edge. I'm no doctor but within 2 seconds of seeing the body cam footage, I could tell he was dying.
The nurses do not make medical decisions, it is the doctors. A nurse can question an order but can not override it. Most likely that doctor will getfired but the hospital will be the ones getting sued.
I don't think you can just release someone who isn't alert and oriented x 3: name, time, place. Before anyone like that is transferred or discharged, they are supposed to do vitals to make sure they are stable enough. Those poor cops. Word of advice to any law enforcement who get calls like this... Make sure they do a set of blood pressure, heart rate, and oxygen levels in front of you before even considering transport. Learn the basic values, write them down, google them. I know it's not your job to keep tabs on things like this, but it can literally means life and death. I know people get fatigued from seeing frequent flyers going into the ER... But if this man was a frequent flyer, they should have known this is not normal for him. There is no excuse for this
Oh? They did it to me last month! Worst hospital ER I EVER experienced. (Not this place mentioned. A whole other place.) They finally, after leaving me screaming in pain for 6 hrs, injected a strong pain killer in my arm. It was putting me to sleep, & relaxed my muscles. They then tried to force me out while I was very sleepy, loopy, & could barely move, at 2:30 am in the freezing cold.
I agree with you 100%. Anyone in the medical field, could obviously see this patient, altered mental status. The doctor and nurse that discharged this patient, will faced serious consequences. And also, this is not a police issue, however, if I was a cop , I would refuse to transport this patient, due to their declining status. I would just, tell the hospital, I don’t feel comfortable, because this patient is not stable .
I am a retired RN as well and from the little I was able to hear, it sounded like agonal breathing. Is that what you heard? I watched again and heard a nurse saying the patient is malingering. Which means he is faking his illness 😡
@sandy30_57I’m a physical therapist assistant and even I could hear that he was struggling to breathe! That one clip showed him in agonal breathing. Disgusting behavior on the hospital staff’s part.
@tsa-dd8go They don’t show his hands very long, what did you see? It looks like they may be discolored and the one I do see is slightly curled at the wrist.
Wow, this is horrible and extremely disturbing 😳 so sad because he was where he should've been to get help. Even the officers questioned why he was being discharged. Anyone with eyes can see he wasn't well. My thoughts and prayers are with his family and even with the officers who were involved. This was preventable. So sad!
This will turn out the same way it ALWAYS turns out when someone investigates themselves..... We investigated ourselves and found that we are not guilty of any wrongdoing.....
This is what happens when hospitals are for profits over care😢 poor guy. I could feel the cops frustration when he said "PISSES ME OFF.. THAT GUY DIDNT NEED TO BE DEAD RIGHT NOW"
I had a doctor that lied in a report about a injury I received in a car accident because he didn't want to testify in a deposition. His name is Shepard, forgot his first name, from San Jose CA. He said I was hurt lifting a ream of paper. I've had three back surgeries from the car accident. Doctor's should be held accountable for lying and license suspended for life.
I hope and pray that the hospital is held accountable. I applaud those cops because they tried. I worked in multiple hospital emergency rooms and I promise you this is a frequent occurrence especially with homeless or frequent flyers. The quality of care lacks so much throughout US. Condolences to that man’s family
There are signs all over inside of that hospital emergency room that say that they cannot deny you care for any reason. I was only a patient there once with a dislocated rib in October, I saw several of them. I cannot believe that they outright denied this person care when he was clearly sick. Why were the police even called to begin with?
I hope this guys family gets justice. The Dr and everyone involved in his care should be disciplined severely. Charged with murder even. Its sickening.
The lack of empathy and care and basic humanity on the part of the healthcare workers is absolutely disgusting. There is NO way anyone, especially a healthcare worker, could look at that poor man and not know that there was something seriously medically wrong with him.
This is the first time I've seen officers disagree with medical staff by telling them it looks like a medical problem. There is something seriously wrong when you have police telling the hospital staff it looks like a medical problem.
So true.
Those cops did everything right. At least they cared and tried to save him.
I’m utterly disgusted with the hospital staff.
So sad he was literally dying in the hospital bed, the hospital staff on duty needs to be fired
@Trund27 agreed.
Could have taken him to a different ER
@RainbowManificationnot necessarily the next er could’ve denied him saying he’s seeking drugs because that’s why he was discharged from the first hospital I have been kicked out even for drug seeking but I wasn’t lmao I ended up in a different hospital for over 18 days straight in less then 24 hours from being kicked out and trespassed cause I cried and said I want okay and they aren’t treating me right it’s despicable what our medical system is like rn
The medical personnel saying he was fine better be fired and sued by his family. This is absolutely horrific and heartbreaking.
Now its oh. "My baby!" My baby!
@jeffder7143 wtf what?!
Normally, it is the doctor who makes these decisions and it falls on the RN to discharge people. The doctor can say he did everything he could but the investigation will help with that. I wonder if they did a CT scan and blood work. I'd like to see his CBC and CMP myself and the CT scan if one was ever done. However, we don't know the full story yet. I'll make my call once I see everything but I'll be damned if they shouldn't have done more if this was a neuro change in this guy. Livid.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?? @jeffder7143
Fired? He should be in jail
I was an EMT for years. We would pour out compassion and kindness on our patients all the way to the hospital. Then turn them over to some of the meanest nastiest uncaring "medical professionals" you can imagine. It burned me out. I witnessed doctors and nurses not caring properly for patients we had fought to keep alive. They were so snotty and uninterested and just did not care one bit. Our patients became dehumanized the moment they entered the ER and we had to leave them there. I was a patient three times at that same hospital and was treated with the same disgust and cold disdain. Hospitals are nothing like we think.
As someone that had to call 911 one time in my entire life because of vomiting and bloody Diarrhea, the EMTs were great to me, however once I got into the ER I was treated worse than livestock at a slaughter house. They made me go home even though I still was passing bloody diarrhea.
It's about money only with so many of these people and nothing about caring for another person
Exactly 💯.. I'm NEMT ... difficult to deal with staff at all these places
I had to be transported by ambulance a few times and every time the EMTs were so kind and trying to make me comfortable given the situation (all psych related incidents). Meanwhile with actual doctors and nurses it really is so hit-and-miss. Theres a nurse at the hospital in my old town where every time he knew I was there or saw me he would come and make sure to say hi and talk to me if he had time 😭❤️ he was the best nurse in that hospital even if he couldn't do my IV's without sticking me 4 times lmfao
One old man said. Take care of yourself these people probably cheated on their test and skipped classes to get their degrees. Take care
Fell short of your "goal?" Yeah, someone frickin DIED. What a callous statement
Oh....but almost worse is the way it begins: _"Providence is sorry about the death of Jean Descamps...."_ .
I would almost suggest that their communication was the result of AI-generated text, but I suspect that if that were the case we would be presented with something more humane.
Healthcare is in major decline in America. From simple poor bedside manner to lying in doctors’ notes to literal malpractice that deserves licensing revocation and/or prison.
Land Of The Greed! There should NEVER BE “FOR PROFIT” HEALTH CARE!!! There are sooooooo many other Countries Models that TREAT PEOPLE!
H$LL Even Cuba has a Better Health Care System!!!
Have you ever watched your After-visit summaries online? Three times I witnessed them change the notes amid a complaint I had. Surreal and chilling in my opinion. Kaiser has been just eye-opening to what I thought I had already seen.
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@babskaz74 literally what? No… there have been thousands of illnesses that didn’t disabled and dismantle our health care system what excuse is this lol literally no lol
What are you talking about you can see the meth sores all up and down his body. I guess it's meth whatever eats your damn skin
20 years ago my mother was at this hospital and had surgery to repair a hernia. She had excellent insurance. My mom was obviously not doing well and I told the nurses she was not ready to go home. The nurse said that if I wanted to have her readmittided we would have to go back through emergency
. I took her home and two hours later she was dead. She died of a massive pulmonary embolism. If those damn nurses would have paid attention to her symptoms this never would have happened. The head nurse tore out her medication chart papers right in front of me! I told her she couldn't do that and she said she could. They didn't give my mom the blood thinner she was supposed to have. This makes me SICK! I HOPE THEY GET SUED!
I hope u sued
Hope they get arrested, may be way too late to sue
I am so sorry you and your mom went through that. My condolences on your loss.
My God, Karen, that makes me sick. Your poor mom! I am so sorry the two of you suffered this.
I’m so sorry for your loss. It shouldn’t have happened! I hope the hospital is forced to answer for their criminal negligence.
Medical staff must be held accountable for the unprofessional conduct.
Unfortunately, this is professional conduct today.
Enjoying obiden’s “new” America?
If by "accountable," you mean "criminally liable," then I agree.
@THEEFunkySoulBrotha just wait until they replace us with “dreamers”.
Lawyers are the only people who think medicine is a perfect calling.
That doctor NEEDS to be charged w a crime. Maybe then things like this will happen less often. Absolutely disgusting
malpractice at the very least, but Criminal negligence and involuntary manslaughter charges should definitely be filed. A doctor that incompetent cannot be trusted with patients if they can’t even put their own biases aside for someone clearly in a medical emergency.
Yes, bad doctor, but they also get burn out from dealing with junkies all the time. It's hard to detriment exactly if the problem is real or not when dealing with someone who hasn't slept for 3 days, and has enough chemicals in their blood to kill a horse. - former EMT
shut it down and fire everyone without pay or unemployment benefits. this type of behavior is unacceptable and needs to be made an example of... otherwise, this is just another Louisville, KY patient dumping case.
@Thewhiteandorange no need to overreact
@llTorentll we've been underreacting for way too long.
I hope the Doctor or Nurse who said “it’s just behavioral” loses their license. This is despicable!
It’s OK the hospital said they would try to do better next time!🙄
Yes!
Most hospitals are the same, they want respect? 😂
They should go to prison for medical neglect of a patient.
It's like the staff is decenatized. Let's move on to the next. Sad. Beyond sad 😔
I'm glad to see that the officers in this situation did the correct thing by questioning the staff at the E R department
. Asking covered the cops butt. You are correct the patient passed over regardless.
They should've insisted the hospital keep him. I wonder if they could've done that legally.
When the story first came out media tried wiping it on the police.
@wezylinn- that’s a good question. I wonder as well.
I still blame the hospital either way, though. The cops did question them, and they insisted he was fine. Theyre the experts and shouldve known better. @tamijapink6671
Absolutely sick. Hopefully, all parties at the hospital will be held accountable.
And why?
I hope every hospital gets held accountable cuz this happens too often
They won’t might pay a fine but no one will get in trouble or Lise their job
@Gillyxo👍
@klausthedog9670 why not?
Just today I went to visit my ex husband who is in the hospital because he had a stroke earlier this week. There was blood coming out of his nose and mouth. I ran to the nurses to tell them and they told me "he did that to himself." He did not. My daughter went up to see him and a nurse that didn't know about what happened was furious with the other nurses and the doctor. This is appalling! We are going to file a complaint on Monday and transfer him to another hospital.
You gonna get some news on that because thats the only way they are gonna care
@yourlordship1119 you said it. and i second that motion and then some!
@yourlordship1119 My daughter has power of attorney and she decided to leave him where he is. She did have a conversation with another nurse that very day and she(the nurse)was not happy about his care. She said the doctor is an idiot. He is getting much better care now.
Make sure you stay on top of the doctors when you're there. Make sure they're doing their job, and ask a lot of questions. You need to do that whether you like the hospital and doctors or you don't. Sorry about your husband, I hope he makes a full recovery and is fine.
That was sickening. To know that he needed care and the doctors and nurses wrote it off as ‘behavioral’ makes me sick to my stomach. This is truly disgusting. Blood on their hands for negligence…
nurses are lazy know it alls who think they can diagnose patients just by looking at them i saw it all the time in medical school its why i dropped out i didnt want to surround myself with them. all they really cared about was having sex with their fellow co workers people become nurses and doctors to chase a fetish nowadays not to help people.
You can clearly see him taking shallow breaths, like the ones you take before you pass away..poor guy💔.
Death rattle was clear
I saw that too. Actively dying.
For sure, even without the shallow breaths and drugs he looked like death. After taking them he was clearly actively dying. The doctors and nurses who saw him and thought he should leave should get their licenses revoked for life. This is a horrific thing to see, disgusting.
All those involved at the hospital should be held accountable legally 😢
They need to loose their license! That was a judgement call on how that patient looked. Should be ashamed of yourself! I’m in nursing school and I cannot wait to advocate for my patients as I do in my current position… just sickening!
Get out of nursing school or at least be an integrative medicine nurse or an alternative medicine nurse. Nurses these days are total bitches. Hopefully, you aren’t one, as you said you want to advocate for your patients. Good luck!
Disgusting and beyond heartbreaking😪I hope those responsible will be held accountable. My heart goes out to the family.
They won't
@@OrwellNailedItNo one expects you to understand, Jethro. Englush is tough for the uneducated.
The cops will need counseling as well. They are obviously caring individuals who did not like the situation. They treated him with more respect than the hospital staff.
@rachelsill79 englush?
It doesn't matter who you are this is a duty of care.This was not the officers fault at all.The hospital employee was inhumane and should not be around individuals who need help ever.This is a hospital not a club where you get kicked out.
they should not have taken him to transport.
But what do you do when the doctor says he is medically ok?
There needs to be an independent dr or nurse practitioner on call available to the police to cover their *ss & refuse to take him away.
Unfortunately, the hospital may simply put him in the parking lot like another one did in recent months... 😠
Actually, if they start suspending or taking away license to practice, it would sort itself out.
@Meow4B happened to me actually 😂 I had 19 ovarian cyst I lost over 60lbs from it lol
I’m a veteran 😂🤷♀️ sounds about right for VA care
This surprises me for civilians tho (we also redirect to civilian care when vet care fails us lol) ❤
Well said
Supposed to take care of people the policeman did everything they could!
I truly believe the only way to survive a hospital trip is to have an advocate. I took my husband to the ER in Vancouver with a 15% heart function and the admitting ER doctor looked at us with disgust and said “he’s at 15% heart function and he’s going to die.” No emotion. It took me pushing and pushing and pushing to start figuring out why to do with him. To this day I wonder what would have happened to him if I hadn’t been there. He was 69 with a birth defect that caused a heart valve failure. At some point of pushing and pushing they finally brought in a cardiologist and she was AMAZING with a positive upbeat “we are going to do everything to fix you” attitude! I hate to think how they would have let him die. My heart aches for the family of this man. 😢
I ALWAYS recommend having an advocate. They wrote on my medical records that I was mentally ill because I gave them a list of food allergies… but I had the medical records from my allergist with the allergy test records to back it up…
And they tried to give me a flu shot while I was dazed from childbirth. My husband had to stop them because I’m allergic…
Wow! Big pharma getting REALLY aggressive with forcing flu shots on people!!!
Dumb question, but Vancouver Washington or Vancouver British Columbia?
When my dad lay dying I had asked the hospitalist to please call me because he was severely septic and it took an extra day before he called and he blamed me for not advising I wanted a call. I did ask when I saw that he got septic in the hospital while there to get chemotherapy. He also said “your father is going to die whether it’s today, tomorrow, or next week”. No compassion. He died 2 weeks later. I shouldn’t have to beg to get the doctor to pick up the phone. I also wanted to talk about the DNR because I didn’t want an automatic DNI (Do Not Intubate) and he said “it’s not your decision. It’s your dads”. I was the POA and if he spent some time with my dad and not talk down to him and make sure he was alert he would see he was not capable of making his own decisions. He even got the year of his birth wrong by a couple of years. I called and spoke to the charge nurse and I asked for a new doctor which we got thankfully because she was a saint.
The man in this video was treated badly. I’ve got a lot of health issues myself and some admissions it was awful while others I got good care.
So it sounds its the ER staff to be the issue by the look of comments
They should have criminal charges pressed. The medical staff, doctors, nurses, all of them. Despicable and criminal behaviors. How dare they deem his life worth ANY less than anyone else's.
This is one time the Police Officers knew he was too ill to leave and yet they are not given a choice. They told the staff at the hospital it wasn’t a police issue and they threw that right back in their face by saying, yes, it is….its so disgusting how caregivers lack compassion. It is sickening.
Its crazy how people actually thought those vermin ever cared to begin with, do people still believe in santy claus too?
Heather, you are exactly right!!!
Ever done the job? No? Might want to shut up then.
@jackwhite1742medical staf certainly did not their jobs, so yea, shut the F up
@jackwhite1742 You think it's ok to kick seriously ill people out of the hospital???
The Spokes person for the hospital said "we fell short in caring for this man" ARE YOU KIDDING ME. Any hospital personnel involved with this very sick man should be arrested and charged with MURDER!!!!!
The discharging nurse is rainbow affiliated. Nothing will happen
@marie, They didnt fall short they killed him by not helping him
@paulettebrrw Exactly! I was just coming to say "fell short" is a funny way to say murdered.
@itsnotthesamething Yep
If the nurse was Woke, then she wouldn’t care about the wellbeing of a white male. These Woke people are infesting the medical profession today, as they are everywhere else.
Thanks to the police officers, who cared.
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Yes they did care handcuffed him
Yes! Cudos to them!
@adelahipolito7464 I am almost certain that its their departments policy to handcuff someone while being transported. They knew he wasnt in the physical state to do anything. They actually did seem to care about him and were upset at the failure of the hospital staff. Just because you dont like cops doesn't mean every single one is bad.
Healthcare is broken ~ I’m a 35 yr healthcare professional and it is like a battle zone every day but this is beyond tragic. Heart goes out to family ❤
Why do you participate in the evil?
@sweetbeep to help people??? its not sick peoples' fault, they still need good people to help them. come on
@static_kitten doctors use big pharma. Big pharma funds the FDA. The FDA works with the CDC. Doctors adhere to the CDC. You see the evil loop? Big pharma, a business of making profits, controls everything.
She could work in helping healing people rather than participate in sick care.
@megamyers yep
Yess
It doesn't matter who you are, a drug addict, an alcoholic, a homeless person, everyone has the right to be treated fairly and not judged. He needed help and they failed him. Justice needs to be served.
You should sign up and do that job... we'll see how long you last dealing with all the druggies, some of which are incredibly violent.
Coming from someone who’s chronically I’ll, they will still treat you badly if you’re not homeless or an addict. Those things just give them reasons to get away with it or take the mistreatment further.
@timhinchcliffe5372And you should seek God. I pray you find Him. 🙏😊🙏
@timhinchcliffe5372 Well this statement makes you more scummy than a person on drugs. Ironic that you think you're better than them with this type of morality.
@timhinchcliffe5372don't matter that's your job , you signed up for it working in a hospital
Its everywhere. I took my mom to 4 hospitals in 1 day because her stomach hurt bad they told her she was constipated to take laxatives. It was her heart she passed a month later from heart failure!!!!! Will never forget. Remember this ladies not everyone has the same symptoms.
@Meow4BDid you sue them?
Please tell me you sue them for malpractice
So sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to you from the hills of West Virginia ❤.
Month later? From a heart attack? Not related.
Again, a reminder to women. Our heart failure symptoms are different to men. We need to know this, just in case.
Thank you for saying his name, so often homeless people or addicts are just referred to as “the man” … he was a deserving person.
he was a Homeless addict?
@snickerswo1f519 you discuss me your no better then the staff at that hospital if you don't have something positive to say then go kick rocks with flip flop k bud
@cynoIogy c’mon, did u see him? ….. Of course he was a homeless addict!
@mikebond6558there is a question mark " ? " behind the words posted by snickerswo1f519 indicating that a question was being asked, not a statement being made or a rude comment about the young gentleman that was so unforgivably horribly mistreated by the staff in that hospital. I can see why that question was asked because nothing in the video implied homelessness or addiction although I am sure those pathetic excuses for human beings doctors and nurses thought exactly that.
My condolences to the family and best wishes for anything and everything that will help you heal from your loss 😞
Also hella respect for those police officers that actually showed care and concern... It's nice to see there really are some good ones out there ✌️
Did you hear the way that hospital employee responded to the officers concern?? The lack of care is horrible
Here is a dirty little secret. Hospitals discharge patients early so they don’t die at their facility and mess up their awards for the year. Especially the poor and marginalized. That man was emaciated and ill and deserved compassionate care. They failed him.
Did you see his wounds . Looks like a harsh drug addict . They just thought oh a junkie looking for free dope . Poor guy . .
Look how many people they sent home with Covid, many died.
I would say! He obviously was unresponsive dehydrated and ill.
I've seen healthier looking people in Nazi death camp films.
Don't make it up as you go along without studying out your claims. Hospital have serious repercussions for an early discharge that leads to death. They don't discharge patients so they don't die in the hospital. Think, for once, if you can.
Even the cops knew better, they tried. Shame on everyone at the hospital. I hope anyone involved in this case gets fired. He clearly was not ok and I’m not in the medical field and I see that! Prayers for Jean. I hope he has some family that can sue for medical negligence. I’m so disappointed in our country as a whole. At least the cops tried on his behalf.
This goes on in all hospital's the ER is one bad place the people behind the desk are not healthcare providers they think they know it all, my dad was in the middle of a heart attack sitting in the lobby they wouldn't do any thing I went and kinda of raised my voice to them a nurse heard me and went to my dad took him back he had heart surgery
A few years ago I admitted my mother to this hospital. I was not impressed with the ER staff. However,once she got admitted into the Geriatric ward,the people up there were INCREDIBLE. They saved my mothers life,and I got to spend some more time with her before she passed.
I’m so sorry you lost your Mom. But I’m glad she was taken care of properly when she needed care.
My condolences to you...
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Sorry but that's totally irrelevant. This hospital murdered someone.
‘A few years ago’ you said, a lot can change in those years. Admit yourself or other family member there, let’s see if your opinions still stands 😊😂
There are a couple hospitals in my area that I will NEVER go to the ER at. My sister's best friend was in diabetic keto-acidosis, she was dying. So my sister, a nurse, brought her to the ER that was closest, one of the ones I'll never go to. The ER nurses accused her of faking it to get meds. My sister didn't want to pull rank with the nurse, so she called the attending physician in the ER that night as she was friends with her. The doctor came down, took a look at her, and had her immediately admitted to the ICU, she spent almost a week in the hospital.
Always bring an advocate if you can, and don't ever be afraid to ask questions or stand up for yourself if you think something isn't right.
My mum was told by the doctor in the hospital that he doesn’t like difficult patients and only likes the easy ones that he can fix. He said this in front of everyone and thought it was funny but looked annoyed at the same time. My mum said well she doesn’t care and she needs help, she can’t help that she has a difficult case that no one can seem to solve the issues. They kept trying to discharge her even though she couldn’t walk and was in immense pain. When she said she felt like ending her life because of the pain they then sent her a mental health nurse and said they may need to take her to the mental ward but still didn’t want to help her with what she was there for. She was there 12 days and ended up having 2 surgeries and sent home with strong medication. Public hospitals do not care about patients they just want a high turnover.
I was also inappropriately threatened with a psych hold in an ER.
Wow what was wrong with her in the end?
@giftofthewild6665 they’re still unsure but she’s been sent to the women’s pain clinic for bowel/bladder issues. She had a colonoscopy and a cystectomy, and they suspect she has neuralgia? Nerve pain/damage and she has been trailing different drugs for the last 6 months. Unfortunately it’s a very slow process.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
@jackwhite1742 oh ok
I’m a stay at home mom and even I could see this young man clearly needed to be in a hospital receiving medical care. This is disgusting. All of this was preventable.
Well did you see his wounds . He was very ill from the harsh drug addiction . The frankendope they sell to day is horrible full of twenty kinds of stuff humans shouldn't be putting into themselves . They thought just another junkie looking for free dope , or maybe someone thought it was better to let him die. Terrible situation. Poor guy .
A child could see that this man clearly need medical care. This almost brought me to tears.
Don't devalue yourself as a stay at home mother. You have one of the most important jobs in the world. Unfortunately, if you live in the States, you earn no SS credits for raising children, unlike other countries. Hopefully this changes in my lifetime. Enjoy your children!
I keep seeing people say that this man, Jean, was on drugs but if you actually look at him and listen to the officers they call him “non-verbal”. I see someone with a developmental disability??…I also might be very wrong but either way it shouldn’t have mattered! I’m with you, this man clearly needed care and instead he was judged by his appearance and his physical differences and treated like trash. Those involved need to be held accountable. So sorry for his family.
@kyleklukas4808you are wrong to accuse this man of being a drug addict.
He's a nonverbal person with a developmental disability.
I just do not understand how they could look at him and say he was just behaving badly. That is so incredibly heart breaking. Makes me think the medical staff had something against him.
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Tired of treating drug addicts with a death wish on tax payers dollars….
It's because he's poor & probably homeless. This is how those people are treated
He was so thin at least he could have been given fluids and food
I agree
why are there no criminal charges for the hospital staff?
It’s so sad to see how jaded the medical community has become. The police showed this man more empathy and compassion then the trained professional caretakers. Let’s bring back empathy in 2024. The man was obviously on deaths door and was treated like an annoyance by the hospital. Shame on them!! RIP to the guy that lost his life. ❤
Oh come on! No one in their right mind would have thought that guy was ok. Those cops should have absolutely refused to remove this man from the hospital! And why were the cops called? For a discharge?
The American default for homl3ss, behaviour problems is jail instead of the old asylums.
It's possible that if the cops refused to take him the staff could have had security remove him from the premises. The outcome would've been the same but at least with the cops they were trying to get him help and he wasn't alone on the street. Everything about this is heartbreaking and horrible
"Healthcare" in the U.S. is woefully inadequate and negligent.
Not if you're an illegal immigrant!
Actually it's deadly. Hospitals murdered thousands for covid money
This is insane. I cannot believe how callously they just kicked this man out.
Not the cops fault at all. This is 100% on the hospital and staff. Heads need to roll. Accountability!
It's on the insurance systems at well. Performance metrics affect billings, and ability to serve Medicare, or other insurance companies. It's why I left my work in US Healthcare and returned to Canada where 3rd party billing doesn't run health decisions.
They were just " doin their job " ..right ...idiot
@joywebster2678Absolutely! The insurance companies dictate the care you receive. Not the acuity of illness, or needs of the patient. I've watched patients being discharged too soon from the hospital due to insurance. Our healthcare system is not set up to create good patient outcomes. Even though hospital advertising will have you thinking otherwise!
But they still felt the need to handcuff a drooling, non responsive, non verbal man for a trip in a police vehicle with a closed back seat.
If the cops hadn't taken him out of the hospital he wouldn't have died in the back seat of their car. Had they just waited 10 15 more minutes when his heart crashed he would have been in a hospital and they could have forced the hospital to take care of him. But since they took the man out of the hospital when his heart crashed he died in the backseat of their cruiser. They are at fault. They don't have the majority of the fault but they do have some of it. Had they left the man where he was he might be alive today. And no they didn't have to leave him where he was and leave. Like for some reason everyone says they have to. They could have waited there for 10 minutes for him to have his heart attack. But they didn't.
If you don't have insurance this is how you're treated...it's a business.
Of course it is, do you expect people to do hard work for free?
@donotsupportterroristgroupsdo no harm. If you don't care for people don't be in health care. It's not just for the well off.
@PenelopeGT..Amen!
When I had zero insurance,,, I broke my arm and shoulder very badly,,, my dog pulled me into a big muddy area, I fell backwards, demolishing my right side. Eventually someone called an ambulance because I was in shock and could not move.. I was taken to the Trauma center at the hospital,,, I would have been sent home just velcroed up,,, but a Dr, pushed through the red tape of my non insured status,,, I’m 71 today, thank God for a world class surgeon who fixed everything and I was covered, under Medi-cal. I live in California. I don’t think this is the case now, to cover everything. It’s heartbreaking.
yeah that’s why you people should be protesting for better pay and health insurance cause the government is stealing from y’all since the rich won’t pay their taxes
The hospital allowed him to die because he was poor and they didn't find him worth treating. It's happening too much in this country and it's sad that our government would rather send billions to other countries for wars. We choose war over life. God bless his family because they'll never get over his final hours of life being treated like that.
Yep treated like his life didn't matter. I hope they sue them and win. God Bless his family.
Made me physically sick to watch this😪If you've ever had a loved one caught up in addiction, you know how absolutely painful it is.
If you don’t care about your life, why should the hospital?
Why are you indicating he didn't care for his life? @klausthedog9670
100%
Complete negligence this is inexcusable
I went to an internal medicine clinic at Providence for a year for hypertension. They ordered an echo which showed I had a heart attack. The doctor that was sitting in for my usual doctor told me, at the next visit, “your heart is in perfect shape!” Hospitals in the Providence orbit don’t care if we suffer or die.
Sounds like a similar incident a friend had at Kaiser!
No one deserves to be treated like that. Breaks my heart watching this.
Been like this a while, and only getting worse.
No one that made this call that night should be allowed to hold a license to care for others
Absolutely shameful
Thank God you guys are covering this and keeping it in the public eye!
It is nice to see officers on the force that really do care for people’s health, and especially that of an obvious drug user.
@babskaz74what an ignorant comment.
@Meow4B You have no idea from the video what treatment he did, or did not receive before the officers arrival.
You don't know this man was a drug user. You're as bad as the ER staff.
He was overdosing. The hospital gave him "a little" Narcan but didn't do a toxicology screening. The state medical examiner ruled the cause of death "drug overdose and contributing natural causes." Learn to use Google.
That's so sad. That was somebody's son. I hope the hospital workers who refused to keep and treat him are held responsible to the fullest extent!!
This is a disturbing situation, this hospital needs to be held accountable
What evil hospital
No reason for this ... All the dr and nurses should be fired and charged for murder!!!!
Empathy is missing in the ER and the medical community in general. Im so sorry for your loss! RIP Sean!
The lack of concern, being overworked and thoughtless is a real problem. Thank you Obamacare
Exactly
It's because of the laws protecting people who abuse the ER visits. They pretend to be sick so they can stay in a hospital bed for the night. I know, because i used to work in ER.
@doannad.1518 that is so unbelievably dumb.
- "Obama care" is to blame.
Stop talking nonsense.
Everyone's love waxed cold
My aunt used to work at a retirement home in a city in California. She always dreaded sending her residents to the hospital. She said more often than not, her residents would return home worse or not return home at all. It's despicable what hospitals do to the poor and elderly! It's like if they don't have money, they don't get care, doesn't matter what the law says about it.
That’s so sad 😭
Absolutely true. I was a nurse in a long-term health facility and hated if our mostly dependent or seriously I'll patients had to be gone more than a couple days. They ALWAYS came back with bed sores that took MONTHS to heal.
I remember when I kept having asthma attacks due to not having a certain medication that I didn’t have money for. The doctor bought the meds for me. I didn’t have an attack for a long time! We need people that have just a little bit of empathy! Even tho I don’t have any problems now with my asthma,I still think of this doctor!
That’s pretty damn nice of them! Nowadays they may want to help and intervene but would get in trouble with the ‘system’ due to being too kind…shame we can have more consideration in the medical industry
@annc.3908 absolutely! I had no insurance and I was in the ER almost every week. I just needed these steroids to help me out!
He didn’t buy the meds for you . They get free meds from the drug manufacturers to give out to people who need them.
So you expect doctors to pay for all of their patients medicine? You got lucky. You got a nice doctor who took pity on you specifically. Imagine if you did that with all of his patients. He would have no money and would not be able to be a doctor anymore. You can't expect other people to pay for everything. Because they have to pay for their own things. Empathy goes a long way but no I'm not about to hurt myself for you.
@MamaMOB He didn’t pay for her meds. Doctors get free supplies from the pharmaceutical companies as samples all the time. He just passed that along.
I have had similar issues with the Hospital here in Lebanon Oregon as well, I refuse to even go back to the Hospital...
My heart is utterly broken for this man and I am enraged with anger by the cold, distant, inhumane manner in which hospital staff looked wt him, cared for him and treated him. This man was completely emaciated, extremely ill and I truly hope each responsible for discharging this man and then refusing him stabilizing treatment, are harshly punished, most certainly fired and are sued.
Imprisoned too
This man was murdered as a result of medical neglect.
Many nurses are miserable in their job but there are very good nurses that would go beyond
@emrylane09_13 Very true and know many nurses that would've resisted this mans horrible treatment yet regardless of being overworked, perhaps underpaid and miserable in healthcare positions, at what moment does human compassion evaporate from one's mind or heart? I worked as a CNA for several years and know all about the horrors of these healthcare positions and how badly I hated my job eventually but never once was the job I chose to pursue/keep or how overworked I and many were, cause me to treat those dependent on my care and compassion, with less than all they needed.
They need to be in prison. How can we make this happen?
If he had medical insurance, they would’ve never let him leave the hospital. This is just SHAMEFUL!
Even if he didn’t have medical insurance they cannot discharge an unstable person. If he died on route to another facility he was NOT stable. There is a law called EMTALA and heads will roll at this facility
@sarahb4104 Lol. Rarely heads will roll at a medical facility. These corporate health companies have us by the balls, and we allowed it.
From the looks of it he was mostly stable when he was discharged, he then became unresponsive AFTER they tried to get him to leave, they likely didn’t reevaluate him but rather just accused him of playing possum.
The problem was due to a lack of compassion from staff not wanting to deal with the guy, NOT the hospital admin. This was nurses and a doctor that killed him not a guy in a suit.
@Johndoe12145 to be fair only a doctor has the authority to discharge a patient. Also he was not stable when he left if he died not long after leaving. It’s impossible.
@Johndoe12145, the man was involuntarily drooling, could barely talk to anybody, and was slumped over.
I believe they discharged him before he was ready.
Thank you Ezra Kaplan and KPTV, excellent research, outstanding reporting. The patient was in an acute medical crisis and should never have been discharged. This was not medical error. The man's state was blatantly obvious to anyone in the medical field, like I am. This was abandonment of a patient.
Wow ...This is sickening!!
As someone who has been a patient my whole life and has a crippling amount of ptsd from doctors and hospitals, as well as a family full of hospital workers, i can tell you that this isn't that uncommon. The difference here is that these officers were heroes and genuinely cared! G-d bless them!
You're allowed to type out God.
@tdpooh1972 No, and you can't make me. Stop dictating others beliefs.
@MayimHastings I believe you're retarded lol
Some with real reverence for the almighty will not even write His entire name. The more you know….. 👍
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Everyone in that hospital should never be in the medical field again.
He was in the ER. You want to condemn every other part of the hospital? Even the ER probably has some providers and nurses who are doing their best.
@pmc2999people really don’t understand what is happening unless they have been in one of our major cities ERs, usually at night. I fear this hospital is going to lose its federal money, and then it will close.
The family needs to take this to court all the way
His family let him stay homeless.
Absolutely heartbreaking. My son went in to detox today for alcohol my heart was breaking for my son and my heart is breaking for this family. addiction is so hard for people and that hospital needs to be held accountable for this !
I was sent to the hospital and I couldn't talk. It wasn't behavioral it was cardiac related! The nurse denied my medication for so long my heart rhythm became irregular. I barely got the words "charge nurse" out before I lost consciousness. When I came to there were several doctors standing around trying to figure out what happened! I was terrified!
I can imagine how that poor guy felt! When the people you trust to help when you're in need can't be bothered to care they should be held accountable!
So sorry you had this experience! What did “charge nurse” mean?
@eggnogalcoholic The "Charge Nurse" is the one the regular floor nurses have to report to. I called the charge nurse because my nurse was ignoring me on purpose. Sometimes nurses think they know better than the doctor that prescribed the medication and they go out of their way to prove their points! Sometimes they might be right but that time she wasn't.
I was refused treatment at Providence Portland. I went to ZoomCare the next day. Turns out I had an infection in my elbow joint that could have gone septic. Thanks Providence!
They refused to do any testing for me and I ended up sepis thankfully I'm fine today aside for side effects that will just stay with me forever
Providence went down the drain these past few years. Just a crap system.
Stop doing drugs.
@klausthedog9670you know you can get an infection from a mere scrape or cut right? Its called Celluitis and i got it from a mosquito bite on my forearm. Got put on antibiotics because yes, it can turn septic and fatal within 72 hours.
Infection from an elbow joint??? You mean a wound there right? otherwise how would you get an infection out of nowhere without a external wound?
Those doctors need to lose their license and they need to do prison time
Horrifying. Heartbreaking 💔. Inexcusable.
Exactly why I laid at home for 14 hours with a shattered tibia and broken ankle until I could get into my doctor. Emergency rooms are inhumane and treat people like they are addicts if you are in pain. The system is seriously broken and this is unacceptable. My prayers for this man's family. 🙏💙
Yea no you probably have a problem. If you’re delaying emergency care (“shattered” bones are legitimate emergencies not just pain) just so you can get access to the drugs you want you have a drug problem.
@Johndoe12145 or as the rest of the world already knows, United States is a 3rd world shithole with some of the worst capitalist greedy for profit healthcare on the planet.
@Johndoe12145 I have chronic pain due to multiple surgeries and don't go to pain management because I DON'T want to take them daily. I have found alternative medicine works better. You are way off base.
I went to an ER for a Thunderclap headache, which *can* but not always indicates a brain bleed, do you know how long I waited to see a doctor? 3 HOURS, and by the time the pressure and pain in my head was gone.
I went to ER for chest pain and they thought I was on meth because my BP was elevated but that was just because I was nervous. They drug tested me and it can back clean then they were nicer but said it was just rib inflammation which it was, no signs of heart attack
I’m a type 1 diabetic, have been for about 23 years. About 3 years ago, I knew I was going into DKA. I’ve been through it many times and I know how my body feels in that situation. I went to emergency room at Sunrise Hospital in LV, NV and the doctor who treated me basically just said I was dehydrated. They gave me fluids and sent me home. ( my blood sugar was over 600 when I arrived) The next day I was sick as a dog and full blown DKA. Couldn’t walk, non stop vomiting. Was rushed by ambulance to the same exact hospital. Turns out yes, I was DKA and I also ( to my surprise) had a bone infection in my foot causing all types of issues as well many of them obvious as my right LEG WAS INSANELY SWOLLEN . ( initial doctor never looked into this further either) I was so upset at the doctor who basically told me I was fine and sent me home after a few hours. I was also angry at myself for not speaking up more and being an advocate for my health. As a result, I was in a much worse position and I spent the next 4 weeks in the hospital. 2 of those in the ICU. One of the endocrinologist who treated me was awesome, I can’t remember her name. She was absolutely appalled that the doctor sent me whom after some fluid via IV when i had those symptoms and medical history.
Point of the story, there are medical professionals out there who don’t care about your well being and also don’t believe you when you tell them something is wrong.
Ps to get an idea of how swollen my foot was, I normally wear a size 9. My swollen foot I had to wear a size 12 and that didn’t even fit correctly. I couldn’t bend my toes. Foot was pretty hot to the touch. My leg was black and blue from blood spilling out from damaged veins ( I got vein ablation to fix bleeding in both right and left leg from a fantastic team of specialist I see now) . So the problem was OBVIOUS. Ended up developing Charcot Joint as a result of bone infection. Also once I was home, did 6 weeks of infection treatment with a catheter of some type that was inserted in my arm and went to my heart. Sorry, I can’t remember the correct terminology. Thanks for reading. Don’t forget to show some kindness to people today y’all, I know sometimes it’s hard.
Hope you're doing well now! That's a scary situation.
"...upset at myself for not speaking up and being and advocate for myself..." I'm slightly paraphrasing from OP, however, that bit jumped out at me. I'm going through a similar situation, and I'm struggling to get docs and staff to hear me.
I think the line you are talking about was a PICC (peripherally inserted central catheter)line. It's usually in the upper inner arm, or chest wall. When long term meds are needed, especially antibiotics, as they can be harsh, they'll use this line to keep better access
Appalling! For any diabetic who is feeling unwell, DKA should be a top consideration by any health professional. I assume your blood work was checked as you knew your sugar was 600 - absolute negligence!! No one should blame themselves for not speaking up. When patients do, they're often belittled or dismissed. It's only natural to trust an authority when they've gone through a decade of schooling and are wearing a uniform that says "don't question me". All it takes is for them to say "no you're wrong" for us to second guess the way our own bodies feel
Horrible! I'm so sorry you had to go thru all of that! I avoid doctors like the plague
Let me guess: “We have investigated ourselves, and found ourselves to be innocent.”
A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION NEEDS TO BE DONE !!!
Some hospitals " dump" patient's very ill right on the street...Those who take oaths often are the one's who hurt us...yeah,just lock someone away was the hospital's answer?? I pray this guy's family files suit and at least makes them pay...you can believe it's not their first time doing this...how horrific!
Those nurses should be held accountable, you can’t pick and choose who you want to treat.
Erm, it's not up to the nurses to discharge a patient.. a doctor is the only one to make that decision. Whilst the patient was treated deplorably, it should be the doctor with whom the buck stops!
My condolences to the family and RIP young man. This should have never happened.
I'm sure there are more signatures (nurses, support staff and admin) on the discharge orders besides the Physician. I hope those people are thinking real hard about what exactly they are putting their name to from now on. Ignorance is not an acceptable excuse.
And yet they do it everyday and no one bats an eye until somebody with money does or it makes national news!
@pollywallie1wow, I never knew USA admin, support staff & nurses could discharge a patient. In Australia it’s only the doctor who decides when to discharge & signs the discharge papers.
As a former er nurse in Australia I never signed a discharge order or made that decision, it boggles my mind that admin personnel are involved in discharging patients in the US.
@katelyn3997 chart notes. Everybody's name is on those. One more reason to never be alone in the hospital if you can help it.
Any nurse, or doctor that entered that room should be held accountable for this mans death. Dude was in terrible shape and I bet the act of moving him from the hospital, is what pushed him over the edge. I'm no doctor but within 2 seconds of seeing the body cam footage, I could tell he was dying.
The nurses do not make medical decisions, it is the doctors. A nurse can question an order but can not override it. Most likely that doctor will getfired but the hospital will be the ones getting sued.
The nurses had their input that said take him to the bus station let him off... Go look at the others news stations some will Show the Whole Video..
This is horrible to treat a human being like this. He looks like he's been starved
I don't think you can just release someone who isn't alert and oriented x 3: name, time, place. Before anyone like that is transferred or discharged, they are supposed to do vitals to make sure they are stable enough. Those poor cops. Word of advice to any law enforcement who get calls like this... Make sure they do a set of blood pressure, heart rate, and oxygen levels in front of you before even considering transport. Learn the basic values, write them down, google them. I know it's not your job to keep tabs on things like this, but it can literally means life and death.
I know people get fatigued from seeing frequent flyers going into the ER... But if this man was a frequent flyer, they should have known this is not normal for him. There is no excuse for this
Oh? They did it to me last month! Worst hospital ER I EVER experienced. (Not this place mentioned. A whole other place.) They finally, after leaving me screaming in pain for 6 hrs, injected a strong pain killer in my arm. It was putting me to sleep, & relaxed my muscles. They then tried to force me out while I was very sleepy, loopy, & could barely move, at 2:30 am in the freezing cold.
I agree with you 100%. Anyone in the medical field, could obviously see this patient, altered mental status. The doctor and nurse that discharged this patient, will faced serious consequences.
And also, this is not a police issue, however, if I was a cop , I would refuse to transport this patient, due to their declining status. I would just, tell the hospital, I don’t feel comfortable, because this patient is not stable .
100%, this Doctor is not a behavioral Doctor and should not be making these decisions!!!! Bad bad bad! No compassion at all!!
This is heartbreaking! I thank the officers for their compassion! 🙏✝️😢💔🌹💙
They should all be fired and prosecuted. You could see just from the video of this young man that he was in distress.
As a retired RN I can tell the man is in severe respiratory distress.
I am a retired RN as well and from the little I was able to hear, it sounded like agonal breathing. Is that what you heard? I watched again and heard a nurse saying the patient is malingering. Which means he is faking his illness 😡
@sandy30_57I’m a physical therapist assistant and even I could hear that he was struggling to breathe! That one clip showed him in agonal breathing. Disgusting behavior on the hospital staff’s part.
1:46 notice is hands...
@tsa-dd8go They don’t show his hands very long, what did you see? It looks like they may be discolored and the one I do see is slightly curled at the wrist.
He was clearly out of it and ill..like wtf
Clearly a damage control on PM's part, they didn't want to help that guy, clear and simple. Props to the police.
Everyone who refused him care in the hospital should serve life in jail. What a cruel death and treatment.
OMG THIS IS THE HOSPITALS FAULT!!!!!!!
I think it was the fentanyl’s fault but hey, we gotta blame anyone but the addict
@derekyosiDying on the street is one thing, but if you’re in a hospital and this is THEIR JOB, that’s another!
@theoriginalkrabbypatty The job of the Emergency Room is to stabilize emergencies. It's not a hospice.
Absolute negligence. Haughty nurses with poor nursing judgement. It’s everywhere!!! I had to get out!!!
Wow, this is horrible and extremely disturbing 😳 so sad because he was where he should've been to get help. Even the officers questioned why he was being discharged. Anyone with eyes can see he wasn't well. My thoughts and prayers are with his family and even with the officers who were involved. This was preventable. So sad!
This has got to STOP!
Anyone with one eye can see that man had breathing and or heart problems while he was in the hospital.
This will turn out the same way it ALWAYS turns out when someone investigates themselves..... We investigated ourselves and found that we are not guilty of any wrongdoing.....
Yep.
This is what happens when hospitals are for profits over care😢 poor guy. I could feel the cops frustration when he said "PISSES ME OFF.. THAT GUY DIDNT NEED TO BE DEAD RIGHT NOW"
Wow. My heart. What has become of us..? I’m disgusted
I had a doctor that lied in a report about a injury I received in a car accident because he didn't want to testify in a deposition. His name is Shepard, forgot his first name, from San Jose CA. He said I was hurt lifting a ream of paper. I've had three back surgeries from the car accident. Doctor's should be held accountable for lying and license suspended for life.
Whomever was heard on body cam saying he was medically fine and was being discharged, NEEDS TO BE CHARGED FOR THIS MAN'S DEATH.
I hope and pray that the hospital is held accountable. I applaud those cops because they tried. I worked in multiple hospital emergency rooms and I promise you this is a frequent occurrence especially with homeless or frequent flyers. The quality of care lacks so much throughout US. Condolences to that man’s family
This poor man he looked so very unwell
How do you discharge an unstable patient into police custody!?
There are signs all over inside of that hospital emergency room that say that they cannot deny you care for any reason. I was only a patient there once with a dislocated rib in October, I saw several of them. I cannot believe that they outright denied this person care when he was clearly sick. Why were the police even called to begin with?
This is despicable. This hospital should be shut down and put out of business and sued for everything they have.
I hope this guys family gets justice. The Dr and everyone involved in his care should be disciplined severely. Charged with murder even. Its sickening.
The lack of empathy and care and basic humanity on the part of the healthcare workers is absolutely disgusting. There is NO way anyone, especially a healthcare worker, could look at that poor man and not know that there was something seriously medically wrong with him.