Slavoj Žižek in conversation with Renata Ávila: Communism or Barbarism, it's that simple | DiEM25
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
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Listening to this while delivering Amazon packages
Jacob zero Ha
Jacob zero : i never use it.
@@subversivelysurreal3645 you're probably better for it
Fuck amazon, deleted my account and will never use it again
Stay safe dude
Keep safe
In the moment of distress & emergency, he is even better - clear, simple, & still f*****g funny.
Viva Zizek - we are lucky to have him in our time.
Monetising Dissent True
Judging by some of the feeble minded and idiotic comments posted up attacking this man, I will add that we are also lucky to have the likes of you too.
I love how Zizke just has his laptop sitting in his belly.
It is very comforting to hear perspectives from people like Yanis, Zizek, and Chomsky during these times. I have been very hungry for more educated, global perspectives like this on what is going on in the world. Thank you for putting this together. Excellent work, everyone. Please keep posting interviews with Zizek! We need Slavoj in these times.
Yes. You have listed my favourites. We need more of Zizieks. Their critical voices need to heard all over the world. They are our hope.
Yes it's refreshing to hear them criticize a system which gave them a comfortable life, or in the case of Yanis, made them rich.
"by communism I don't mean soviet union central committees, I mean simply these 3 things: relatively efficient state which has the power to violate the market rules, to organize healthcare and so on... supplemented on the top with strong, active international cooperation, and at the bottom with local mobilization."
Xiaoli Chen it’s extremely rare you’ll find him speaking this directly. fascinating
Weird, sounds like standard neoliberal corporate power in the US for the past 60 years. I don't understand what you morons find appealing about this charlatan that merely parrots principles of unaccountable private tyrannies.
I got Woohan you are 100% correct. He fought against and helped dismantle the Communist state that actually existed in his hometown
What about. the barbarism of financialisation, which has so successfully evaded political control?
@@imavileone7360 I'd twist this and say he rather promotes *accountable public tyrannies*. Neoliberals, on the other hand, (hypocritically) demand less state intervention, the world-order they envision only cares about capital freedoms (to buy, sell and trade globally), and local mobilization for them is limited to individual enterprise (which, within this framework, can only apply to some). So, back to the drawing board with you! Good man.
Loved how he just proudly said “I’ll just say when i’m tired”. Beaut 😂😂
The intro where they didn't know they were live was funny. The interviewer was very good in this i thought!
I see things the same , Zizek is confirming me that i am not crazy, love you Slavoj
And so on and so on.
And then you die. That's it! And so on and so on.
::sniff: ::SNIFF::
I love how he says it at the seemingly most random moments too lol
renata,you're wonderful fight the good fight sister,great interview.
"All Germans are not Nazis, they are also good organisers". Hah!
I love good people from Germany , they are in the same shit as we are
@@anela7975 Of course. I thought it was funny because he was playing with two common jokes we make about Germans in Europe. Nothing but love though, it's just some friendly banter.
@@Blubberbeest i know, all is good, sending kisses to you from Prague, take care
I'm german, and this phrase made me laugh :) Well some of us are pretty lazy bums. Todays survey: 75% of the germans agree with the lockdown; quite frustrating. Take care!
@@petemiller285 what do you think is 40 days of lock down enough can that flu still run in May, what a German scientists say
29:37 is where you continue if you come from the video “Things will not return to normal”.
Great interviewer, and as always, Slavoj doesn't disappoint. Thanks
I understand Zizek very well. Thanks to Both.
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his goodbye is priceless
Yes! Even if all you care about is your own well being, you must join together with your community to keep yourself safe.
Love listening to Zizek....one of the most prominent intellectuals of our generation.
Hedges spoke of Christian Fascism, we have in the U.S. a menacing evangelical influence on Trump, he loves their adoration of him...
I think Trump is the confused mouthpiece of his handlers. He evidently bases his decisions on the misinformation he’s fed behind the scenes & then we see him trying to posit unprocessed thoughts on the fly in his catastrophic press conferences.
Fuck off Trump is a puppet of ISRAEL not the Christians - get your facts straight normie 🤦
There’s a documentary about this on Netflix called “The Family” if anyone is interested.
Zizek saying he doesn't want to talk for too long...there's first time for everything I guess
Zizek should right now take advantage of this moment... He can really help... Not to intellectuals but to normal people, much many people... Like he knows how to do sometimes... Please zizek, use your power now !
oooh we are live!!!!!
Has anyone published a full transcript of this interview? I would like to follow along but I have a hearing loss, so I'm having difficulties. Thank you!
Someone would have to add subtitles to the video.
We need Julian Assange if we want to know the truth.
That's why he was removed safely some time ago...
Argentina's president proposed the creation of a world fund for humanitarian emergency to the g-20 a couple of days ago. we're happy about how he's dealing with the situation. yesterday he said at a press conference that the time has arrived for those who make too much money to profit a little less.
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this is a good discussion... on both sides.
Communism or... the perfect opportunity for fascism to rise to power during this crisis.
IF YOU FEAR MUSIC THEN YOU ARE OF LITTLE USE TO THE REVOLUTION
@@sawtoothiandi I DON'T FEAR MUSIC. BUT MUSIC CAN CAUSE FEAR.
Fear Of Music LIFE DURING WARTIME WILL DO THAT, BUT IF YOU REMAIN IN LIGHT, YOU LOSE THE FEAR, AND START SPEAKING IN TONGUES
@@nikolademitri731 SAME AS IT EVER WAS.
America is already fascist.
The kind of communism Zizek is advocating is a mix of China's socialism with chinese characteristics and venezuela local dynamic. And i like it
Mr Žižek very aware of real life … His statement about self-isolation reminds me of what Mahatma Gandhi once said: "It costs my friends a lot of money to keep me poor."
It starts at 1:10:45
what is veri upsetting to me is that i understand how difficult it is for people alone to ask for help, and that solidarity is as alien now, as first cracking charity, and by charity i don’t mean 1,000 pints of light, as Bush 1 talked about, but i mean through that word called ‘pride’ being perhaps turned inside out. my point is that now, inside the USA, so many people have been found dead alone, in their homes. i suppose that the road to atomization is something that i think needs to be cracked open. the USA has always been so cruel, of course.
The last minute was hilarious, poor Renata!! 😂
It is as if he only says he wants communism as clickbait. Once people listen to him they find he doesn’t want it at all. He might as well say “get hot chicks with this secret communist technique”
"Democratic establishment made the choice that Trump is better than Bernie Sanders."
Cnsumerism critic comes from consuming, manufacturing, and MARKETING of products we don't need. (NOTE: Marketing MAKES you desire a product). In another Note, this economy is based on consumerism of products with expiration dates.
The best, quickest and most direct solution to prevent total loss of any hope of democracy is the implementation of BASIC INCOME WORLD WIDE.That will turn the Harakiri Economy we are addicted to into a Circular self substble economy where people are not forced into slavery and can alone or in co-operation with others work on their own passionate projects. Small is Beautiful is the human fungi that allows humanity to link up with each other. Only people that never lift a finger unless being paid have never experienced the kick of getting good things done..
Zizek is great.living the end times is great... still ploying through it. he has a way of drilling into your subconscious and every sentence i read i feel i am actually having a conversation with him hence why it's taking me awhile to get through it. i compensate by listening to John Coltrane; technically another thinker of a different sort.
Welcome to Iceland Mr.Zizek😊
Thank you
My brain is shaking after watching this
The bit about Biden and Sanders at the end is a heavy truth that needs to be spread errywhere.
close your eyes and listen to the first 40 seconds
the grandmaster of the negative negative goes holistic, what a time.
Watching this as a Brazilian, it saddens me, from 22:30. We are so fucked here. It's not simply the covid-19 crisis. We are having a serious political, working and financial crisis going on too. We are in the brink of a coup, supported by some far-right groups here, with the president taking part on weekly protests demanding the closure of our congress, among other things related to our past military dictatorship (which ruled the country from 1964 up to 1985).
We even had three different Health Ministers in 30 days, in the middle of the pandemic! The new minister comes from the military (as many other power-positions in this Bolsonaro government) and has no experience in Medicine/Health service whatsoever. Now they are supporting the usage of some remedies in public hospitals, despite scientists' concern about its efficacy and despite side effects.
Remember this: Brazil do need help from the rest of the world now. Not just health aid, but political aid for the opposition, economical aid and educational aid. :/
I love zizek ♥ more zizek and yanis would be amazing
decentralize the internet
Yes - you are 100% correct there - we need to seek alternative open source platforms independent of Silicon Valley Deep State operatives
Bravo
It couldn’t be MORE political a moment.
I have been posting (as an American) "Universal Basic Income and Medicare for All or Revolution". I'm glad his view correlates.
Is the transcript of this conversation available online
I hope you get over this flue to say the least. Please have your self tested for the kovid virus, we need you around more then ever before. God help us all from the evil plots being concocted on us by the evil empire
hey, @DiEM25 can you start using the peoples internet and tools? like the #fediverse (peertube) and for live video #JITSI ? thank you!! oh,, and a #mastodon account please!
And so on
Zizek has read the Wikipedia article about bacteria and thinks it's an article about viruses. This is him at his best (discussing political reactions to crises) and worst (misreading Wikipedia and developing an entire line of thought).
The question is whether we can learn faster than the systems analyzing us. Not to be entirely pessimistic as to this prospect but nevertheless I must admit it's difficult to imagine “we” (whatever that denotes) might realistically compete with the techniques already in place to control us. Techniques that provide the platforms we now rely on to communicate with one another. So it is! twitter.com/askbabadog/status/1245426035543474177?s=21
tried to count how many "and so on" Slavoj can say, but it's impossible to keep up
Malo sam mlađi od profesora, a uspeva da mi promeni život i to značajno.
Spice for the people? I agree, I think we all use a little bit of the Water of Life right now.
I hadnt heard about copjec's husband's passing, sad that honest intellectuals die while bungling politicians retreat to their secluded estates
Camilo Adrian Frias ....and it’s worse than just a retreat to their hideouts and bunkers. They take their own respirators, medical supplies, oxygen bottles, personal doctors etc with them.
.....and toilet paper and so on and so on
Can someone post a link to a strike fund for Amazon workers? (Does it exist yet?)
BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOVE YOU ❤❤❤ LOVE FROM SWEDEN
The hardest to watch the better it becomes.
Žižek is promoting kindness. Good, but maybe he should be more kind to the host and the viewers XD
Very inspiring conversation tho
I'm curious to what he means with "local mobilisation"
Tootsie Roll owl on his pillow says: How may licks does it take to get to the crack in the edifice of being?
Meaning what ?
I am toataly agree with Slavoj Žižek . NEVER BE THE SAME - Today every body use this sentenses to discrabe unpridiktable future . Today We have to read again , what Nassim Taleb , predictic in your books . OUR IGNORENS IS MORE RELEVANT , THAN OUR AROGANT ACADEMIC KNOWLEDGE . I am also from former YUGOSLAVIA , and know very well what means solidarty and comunisam with “ people face “ . We are touch that in that country . In that kind off cuntry we have realy good health care sistem and extremy solidarty . We have very well and for free stadying , for free , company we are we work Give for As Apartment . It was apartment is not by with credits , no company give youto live . You kids after you they continue . Mem
Menagment of the company was collective , like like share holdders in the corporations today . In this moment what you can notice . Every country take that leverage in your side . Every private hospitaly or clinic in Spaimn , know is publik goverment hospitalty ? What is hapend whith small lokal radio station ? They can not to survive , only state suport …… we have bank in former contry for this extrmly situation . Janis varufakis sugest for Europe to esatblish some sort offthat institution . In our region people like to say -GOOD A PESANT , START TO PREPARE FOR THE WINTER IN SUMMER . Today we are the witnes that all capitalisam is work and have condiction for two month check , no more . IT IS NOT SISTEM IN WICH YOU MAKE CAPITAL , NO IT IS SISTEM FOR SPENT MONEY AND SPENT YOU LIVE - FAMOUS SOCIETY OFF THE SPECTACLE -know it disappers like balllons off the soap . Today football players suport hospital like donor . Ok , it is great gesture but what type off system your are if you need that suport . Compare salry offthe doctors and football player and that tell you every thing we are we live before corona ! Today is day off my town Sarajevo . We have somthong wors than today crisis . We do not have water , heatihg , food and suport ….bescouse our army shelling your people , yugoslav army inthat moment was on one side on serbs side . In that army i spent one year . Also our bank -slovenia bank take money off the people Sarajevo . How surive when your army atactyou and you bank robbery you people . Today was also day in history off my town wnen we are take freedom in second word war ………*
Vuk Amir -Zec from Sarajevo
You're the only foreigner that didn't put "sorry for not perfect English" that should've
who is this woman?
Juan Luis García Hernández human rights lawyer from Guatemala
Could you please open for translations contributions?
" THIS IS NOT A DRY COUGH. at 6.04 "
Where are "gig economy" workers striking? Anybody? I'd like to look further into this.
Amazon Staten Island is one example
Problem is, of you're "gig-economy" in an unskilled job, they'll just stop giving you hours and employ somebody else. It doesn't work does it. Certainly here, in the UK, the positions would be filled again within 24 hours.
Am I missing something?
@@craigbanbury Problem is those "someone else" must be politically aware to not do that and instead join the strike. The objective conditions are set up, but not the subjective ones.
Alan De Anda Yeh, if everyone was rowing in the same direction, we wouldn't have the problem in the first place. We need to be realistic to get anything done. The rise of the "gig economy" has literally rendered strikes as we previously knew them useless. The workers in these environmemts have zero bargaining power. We need to figure out how to shift the balance. I looked into the Amason case referenced above... They publicly sacked the guy responsible for organising the strike and everyone went back to work. Of course they did, many of these people are living hand to mouth, zero savings. Its not an option to "join the strike" if you have hungry kids to feed.
Surely Computer Communism would be different from previous incarnations
Barbarism with a technocrat face. Cyberpunk is now
Non capisco. Il mio inglese è insufficiente. Occorrono i sottotitoli. Diversamente , chi la pensa come Diem 25 si disconnetterà. Datevi da fare.
Hehe yes you are still live cutie 😜 Great interview 🙏 Žižek is no philosopher still he says lots of things that needs be said and heard and supported and encouraged. Your question about how to organize in a time when it’s been made illegal to organize is great and most relevant. Zizek thinking of a Chinese whistleblower is also up there (“asian culture” is a real thing, very difficult to disregard). Keep up the good revolutionary works 👍
v savage sorry i just needed to add that.... he is most definitely a philosopher :) (you don’t even need a degree to be a philosopher, but he has a doctorate in philosophy, and another doctorate in
psychology)...! I am curious though as to why you would say that in the first place?
vivinpan good question my friend thanks 🙏 Because ask what is philosophy ? As you admit it is not degree.. Is Marxism philosophy?
vivinpan halo!! you curious or not curious? which’s it gonna be? (can’t be both that is basic philosophy logic one-o’-one)
v savage He is more of a hegelian than a marxist, that was said by himself
Andres Paulsen ok andres thanks 🙏 Does calling yourself Hegelian make you a philosopher?
22:47
Zizek: "I used to be a fascist"
ruclips.net/video/cdErA8pFTTY/видео.html
You know things are getting worse when Grandmaster Z gets tired of talking.
One solutıon path could be to reorient the UN to become more representative of people and more capable of international level interventions. Few steps for that could be: (a) make UN agencies operate through a model of hybrid membership of governmental representatives and free-society representatives; (b) add few more UN orgs that are missing today such as 'Agency for Moral, Spiritual and Religious Peace' and 'Agency of Science, Technology and Servicing Collaboration'; (c) make monetary and informational contribution to UN mandatory on and enticing for corporations and entities passing certain thresholds or power and proliferation; (d) make relevant UN agencies have equal votes on matters having global consequences in a form of 'assemblies of agencies'; grant UN 'assemblies of agencies' more power over and presence for facilitating international programs of peace, growth and development.
Another would be to to have ALL nations represented on the Security Council
Renate is right and as always, slavoj downplays how bad rightwing authoritarianism is.
Right? Renate's approach is realistic and zizek is fucking delusional with a mix of bootlicking.
@@imavileone7360 very upsetting but on brand for him.
100%!! it was an interesting watch, but that was all i could think the whole time. she was awesome, i would rather listened to her analysis for an hour. both on the rightwing authoritarianism and mega monopolies getting even more power. not that we can give up, but he is underplaying how bad this is
Zizek doesn't fear right wing authoritarianism because it isn't the popular view in the West (its the most criticized). He is a critic of the accepted ideologies. Thus he hates communism but embraces it in order to take down Capitalism.
Famous last words, "This is not a dry cough..."
Zizek gets tired? Why?
he has diabetes and a heart disease history
old
sub spanish please
Zizek should check his allergies - not to confuse with Corona.
3s shorter
This is the end of human society.
Time to take up arms and go out in your own terms.
you know people its 99% of us and 1 % of them they can believe what they want but they are anyway just as us ordinary people with billions and they are also afraid, we 99% we have the power as well, they cannot do anything without our agreement, what if we all sign out facebook for example , hehe
BYE BYE!
Could we make the lecture shorter? No, and he knows it. Lol. Who is he kidding?
Lol that ending was awkward
The whole conversation, if that's what you want to call it, was awkward. The host had to pull back the "conversation" back to reality I'm several occasions.
Zizek (un)consciously trying time be the star of the show.
If Wikipedia is the source of his information I would not be very impressed with his conclusions.
Nothing wrong with Wiki if you use it properly. You have References at the end. Check the sources and see can you trust it. Same apply for any other source of information.
"They need us " You meaning, us those who really work , not you zizek , or other who don't know how to plant a potato...
We need people like him who read and study and help organize people like us who work. If he (and all intellectuals) was out planting potatoes we’d be in much deeper shit than we are now.
@@romybian Exactly....I am tired of this bs anti intellectualism....as a working class person from a working class family, the working class is fucking dumb, it's by design, capitalism won't work if we were all enlightened, and every single successful revolution had intellectuals at heart.
Ah, irrelevante como siempre, el buen zizek
Jesus Christ... You should have just asked Chomsky back on...
Communism or barbarism? Methinks these are synonyms.
Youthinks wrong
I bet a commentary without knowlege about the video , nor ever listening to zizek
@@linkezecke81 I was only referring to the title.
@@ThePeanutButterCup13 So-called history proves my point.
@@PinkAmadeus you are right, "so called". You should watch some videos of zizek. He ist entertaining and he considers your point.