@@filipcesnjak2944 and each is capable of beating the other an argument can be made for each fighter. Like bronze tiger vs batman the 2 have beaten each other.
Jason literally destroyed Damian when they fought. He would also beat Helena as well Unless you’re trying to rank Prime Damian, which in that case Damian would be higher than that
@@its_gxl420babae3 yet bane, shiva, deathstroke, a large number of cannon fauter assasins around 200 ,nobody even Ra's Al ghul and o-sensei and nightwing have all deafated batman and there are many more
@@achimpanzee9210 How many times has Deathstroke fought Batman and Nightwing? Cause I remember in Detective Comics 710 and DC Nation 1 stating that Batman beat Deathstroke. In Deathstroke 2011 issue 5, while Deathstroke was still adjusting to his younger and healed body Slade said he was being out fought and after the building blew up, he and Harley ran away from Batman. As of recently in Priest’s run, Deathstroke vs. Batman, the fight ended in a draw. Plus when Slade first fought Batman, although he beat Batman, Slade stated that Bruce is better and that was prior to his training with Shiva & Richard Dragon. Also as of recently, Dick beat Slade in a Round of combat with Slade admitting defeat for that round in Dark Crisis Issue 2. Slade, although he master every form of combat in a year, admits that Bruce and Dick are better fighters than him.
@@porobotboyxxx while I can’t site the issue. I have scans of Deathstroke beating Batman. Not Nightwing and Batman at the same time but if Deathstroke beats Batman then he can beat Nightwing. I feel like there are more showings of Batman losing to a holding back Deathstroke than the ladder.
@@porobotboyxxx And as you mentioned in one of your sources, Deathstroke was adjusting to the fact that he had both eyes instead of just one and he was holding his own until Harley Quinn basically tossed a building on him, which he quickly recovered from.
Also seriously you disrespected deathstroke. He has soloed green arrow and black canary He stalemated cassandra cain and she couldn't read his movements He stalemated david cain He beat bronze tiger while weakened and stalemated him while severely weakened Nightwing has stated that Deathstroke could kill him easily He stalemated Ra's in a sword fight And he stated he holds back against Bruce while stalemating him in the batcave and with batman having prep
Nightwing stated but what has the actual fights proven? The wing always heavily underestimated himself so is that nightwing one so credible as you make it out to be? The rest though, spot on, just saying…
Don’t forget when he was sick and was beating azrael before collapsing from the sickness, and him consistently beating Batman when not taking it seriously and beating the teen titans.
@@Artryom "Nightwing stated but what has the actual fights proven" There are panels of Deathstroke knocking Grayson out with one hit from The New Teen Titans run.
The issue with using Batman as a baseline is a lot of the feats of his are underestimated. Are we really scaling Bane to Batman just cos he held his own? Really? Might as well put Joker in there too since he does the same sometimes. Just cos a character holds his own doesn't mean they scale the same way. Batman has done in canary often. Same with Deathstroke. Shiva can talk about olaying her oart all she wants but can you prove this isn't just something she would say to save face? She does come across as having an ego that comes from her knowing how good she is. Saying she let him win sounds like something she would say to save face. As for Wonderwoman, I think she is an excellent combatant. Batman admits to this. I don't think she's that good at it at least not compared to those on the list. But when you have the strength, you dont need to be that good. If supes were a third as proficient in all forms of martial arts as batman is, he would be the best fighter in the world. It wouldn't make him the most skilled tho. Heck, in the DC spread for the 10 fastest characters in their verse, they said wondie understood thr mechanics of running more than anyone else. This makes her fast but she's not the fastest. Not even close so why give her the benefit of the doubt with combat when the writers didn't give it to her for speed. The irony of the list is that characters were downplayed and some were hyped up. Karate Kid being ranked as low as he was is quite laughable
Ghostmaker a new ass character is equal to batman who has decades upon decades of feats, statements and lore behind him? Gtfo. This way of scaling is trash.
Wonder woman is not the most skilled wonder woman had things to teach Batman and black Canary because she knew the secret fighting style of the Amazons and that does not mean that she is more skilled then them she is the best hand to hand combatant because of the mixture of strength and fighting skills not just fighting skills sure she is more skilled then Areas but we do not know how skilled areas is as the God of war he is ridiculously skilled but to what degree we do not know he knows every martial arts and every military tactic but people like Batman and even nightwing have Simlar statements about them and Batman comes up with new tactics and later on in the story Batman is superior to the Batman who laughs and the Batman who laughs even try to run so we cannot say that Batman is less killed them and would need the joker's help as that was before if areas was the third most skilled and the darkest night 2nd most skilled then we can say that wonder woman is the most skilled but we have no proof about that sure they have a large amount of knowledge on nearly every fighting style and ability to use that knowledge but if we say that that makes someone more skilled and wouldn't that mean that there are more skilled then wonder woman since they would obviously know the fighting styles of the amazons and wonder woman's fighting style (specially in the case of the blackest knight) yet wonder woman is the more skilled so your point contradicts itself.
I am so upset because deathstroke is always a badass martial artist before he even got the serum and he always beats batman most of the time in comics but batman has immense plot armor so that is why he ain't dead yet by slade.
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Good to see Crisis here
Top 40 martial artist by martial art skills: 1. Karate Kid, 2. Richard Dragon, 3. Lady Shiva, 4. Batman (Bruce Wayne), 5. Cassandra Cain (Batgirl), 6. Wonder Woman, 7. Ghost-maker, 8. Deathstroke, 9. Bane, 10. Black Cat, 11. Black Canarry, 12. Ra's-al Ghul, 13. Prometheus, 14. Bronce Tiger, 15. Nightwing, 16. Green Arrow, 17. Robin (Damian Wayne), 18. Black Archer, 19. Huntress, 20.. Hawkman, 21. General Zod, 22. Read Hood (Jason Tod), 23. Read Robin (Tim Dreake), 24. Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) 25. Supergirl, 26. Faora-Ul, 27. Hawkgirl, 28. Tigress/Artemis, 29. Sports Master, 30. Artemis of Themyscira, 31. Ares, 32. Big Barda, 33. Spoiler, 34. Batman Beyond, 35. Superman (Kal-El/Clark Kent), 36. Talia-al Ghul, 37. Catwoman, 38. Katana, 39. Orion, 40. Darkside.
I'd put my boy batman at 5th and Cassandra at 3rd Shiva 4th.
@@baki484 it is hard to say since they are all good in martial arts 🤷♂️
@@filipcesnjak2944 and each is capable of beating the other an argument can be made for each fighter. Like bronze tiger vs batman the 2 have beaten each other.
@@baki484 yes that is true, and Batman is normal human with superhuman feats.
Jason literally destroyed Damian when they fought. He would also beat Helena as well
Unless you’re trying to rank Prime Damian, which in that case Damian would be higher than that
I always felt that Canary was more skilled than batman... this almost confirms it...
Bats did manage to one-shot her when she was under mind control once in Vixen: Return of the Lion #5
@@ateeqmumraz9664 DC'S status quo is that Batman always wins...
@@its_gxl420babae3 It's because he's Batman 😈
@@its_gxl420babae3 yet bane, shiva, deathstroke, a large number of cannon fauter assasins around 200 ,nobody even Ra's Al ghul and o-sensei and nightwing have all deafated batman and there are many more
Calling it now, Wonder Woman is #1
Logical it makes sense girl literally been trained by gods for centuries.
And Lady Shiva will be #2
Underrated channel... Wish had more more dc and marvel characters
I always felt that Canary was more skilled... this almost confirms it...
Deathstroke uses 90% of his brain which means he'll forever rule 😎
*Batman:* Yeah sure.😑
*Nightwing:* Keep telling yourself that Chief.😒
@@porobotboyxxx deathstroke does pretty consistently floor Batman and by proxy, nightwing
@@achimpanzee9210 How many times has Deathstroke fought Batman and Nightwing? Cause I remember in Detective Comics 710 and DC Nation 1 stating that Batman beat Deathstroke. In Deathstroke 2011 issue 5, while Deathstroke was still adjusting to his younger and healed body Slade said he was being out fought and after the building blew up, he and Harley ran away from Batman. As of recently in Priest’s run, Deathstroke vs. Batman, the fight ended in a draw. Plus when Slade first fought Batman, although he beat Batman, Slade stated that Bruce is better and that was prior to his training with Shiva & Richard Dragon. Also as of recently, Dick beat Slade in a Round of combat with Slade admitting defeat for that round in Dark Crisis Issue 2. Slade, although he master every form of combat in a year, admits that Bruce and Dick are better fighters than him.
@@porobotboyxxx while I can’t site the issue. I have scans of Deathstroke beating Batman. Not Nightwing and Batman at the same time but if Deathstroke beats Batman then he can beat Nightwing. I feel like there are more showings of Batman losing to a holding back Deathstroke than the ladder.
@@porobotboyxxx And as you mentioned in one of your sources, Deathstroke was adjusting to the fact that he had both eyes instead of just one and he was holding his own until Harley Quinn basically tossed a building on him, which he quickly recovered from.
You should do the rank for Marvel as well
Seems you forgot to pay respects to Condiment King. We’re about to have a problem True.
Please let this lead to someone making a scaling video on Wonderwoman.
missed out on a lot of thing when it came to batman, karate kid and deathstroke.
How great a fighter will Wonder Woman be if she didn't have her godly strength etc.?
Oh nice man
Also seriously you disrespected deathstroke.
He has soloed green arrow and black canary
He stalemated cassandra cain and she couldn't read his movements
He stalemated david cain
He beat bronze tiger while weakened and stalemated him while severely weakened
Nightwing has stated that Deathstroke could kill him easily
He stalemated Ra's in a sword fight
And he stated he holds back against Bruce while stalemating him in the batcave and with batman having prep
You should go discuss this on discord
Nightwing stated but what has the actual fights proven?
The wing always heavily underestimated himself so is that nightwing one so credible as you make it out to be?
The rest though, spot on, just saying…
Don’t forget when he was sick and was beating azrael before collapsing from the sickness, and him consistently beating Batman when not taking it seriously and beating the teen titans.
@@Artryom "Nightwing stated but what has the actual fights proven"
There are panels of Deathstroke knocking Grayson out with one hit from The New Teen Titans run.
"stalemated cassandra cain "
Cassandra literaly said Slade was toying with her.
Is it my musically quirkiness or can this have a bit of a flow to it?
7:47 The top grifter dialogue..
The issue with using Batman as a baseline is a lot of the feats of his are underestimated. Are we really scaling Bane to Batman just cos he held his own? Really? Might as well put Joker in there too since he does the same sometimes. Just cos a character holds his own doesn't mean they scale the same way. Batman has done in canary often. Same with Deathstroke. Shiva can talk about olaying her oart all she wants but can you prove this isn't just something she would say to save face? She does come across as having an ego that comes from her knowing how good she is. Saying she let him win sounds like something she would say to save face. As for Wonderwoman, I think she is an excellent combatant. Batman admits to this. I don't think she's that good at it at least not compared to those on the list. But when you have the strength, you dont need to be that good. If supes were a third as proficient in all forms of martial arts as batman is, he would be the best fighter in the world. It wouldn't make him the most skilled tho. Heck, in the DC spread for the 10 fastest characters in their verse, they said wondie understood thr mechanics of running more than anyone else. This makes her fast but she's not the fastest. Not even close so why give her the benefit of the doubt with combat when the writers didn't give it to her for speed.
The irony of the list is that characters were downplayed and some were hyped up. Karate Kid being ranked as low as he was is quite laughable
you maybe did not watch the video cus I justified every placement with feats and not what I think happened
yo, true, what about archangels
where would connor hawke be?
Skill in terms of martial arts right
Wait.i.thought.this.is.best.hand.to.hand..come.back.in.DC.not.the.bat.
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Ghostmaker a new ass character is equal to batman who has decades upon decades of feats, statements and lore behind him? Gtfo. This way of scaling is trash.
Ghostmaker literally beat Current Batman in their most recent full fight.
@@thebteamm I think he means it by some new character with no where near as much lore and showings as Batman shouldn’t have beat him
Azazel still slams
do deathstroke he is the most skilled to me.
Wonder woman is not the most skilled wonder woman had things to teach Batman and black Canary because she knew the secret fighting style of the Amazons and that does not mean that she is more skilled then them she is the best hand to hand combatant because of the mixture of strength and fighting skills not just fighting skills sure she is more skilled then Areas but we do not know how skilled areas is as the God of war he is ridiculously skilled but to what degree we do not know he knows every martial arts and every military tactic but people like Batman and even nightwing have Simlar statements about them and Batman comes up with new tactics and later on in the story Batman is superior to the Batman who laughs and the Batman who laughs even try to run so we cannot say that Batman is less killed them and would need the joker's help as that was before if areas was the third most skilled and the darkest night 2nd most skilled then we can say that wonder woman is the most skilled but we have no proof about that sure they have a large amount of knowledge on nearly every fighting style and ability to use that knowledge but if we say that that makes someone more skilled and wouldn't that mean that there are more skilled then wonder woman since they would obviously know the fighting styles of the amazons and wonder woman's fighting style (specially in the case of the blackest knight) yet wonder woman is the more skilled so your point contradicts itself.
Ares created the Concept of Skill as the God of War , Wonder Woman even holding her own against her means a lot .
I am so upset because deathstroke is always a badass martial artist before he even got the serum and he always beats batman most of the time in comics but batman has immense plot armor so that is why he ain't dead yet by slade.
How the hell is Canary more skilled than Batman. Who trained her, this makes no sense