What a New Stadium Means for the Buffalo Bills

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
  • On March 28th, 2022, offcials confirmed there will be a new football stadium for the Buffalo Bills in the near future, and that games Highmark Stadium are numbered. New York Governor Kathy Hochul reassured Bills fans that whatever Bills owner Terry Pegula wants, the state will pay for, with mixed reaction from New Yorkers. Will the new stadium be in Orchard Park or downtown Buffalo? Enclosed or open air? Stay tuned as we review everything we know so far and how we got to this point after a decade of studies and public and private interest.

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  • @LaBreeceTV
    @LaBreeceTV  2 года назад +13

    Please feel free to comment your opinion on the recent new stadium developments so we can better understand fan sentiment for future updates.

    • @joepasci4970
      @joepasci4970 2 года назад +2

      Syracuse dome is more of a ballon than a dome. Its is a fantastic idea for college. I think NFL has great idea with epic massive facilities that the franchises have been building.

    • @MrGrorg
      @MrGrorg 2 года назад +3

      Yes Niagara falls better location please

    • @lladnar998
      @lladnar998 2 года назад +3

      This was the worst stadium deal in the history of stadium deals. A VERY poor city with one of the highest poverty rates in the country. Taxpayers are expected to fund a stadium for a Team that has NEVER and Probably will NEVER win a championship. The NFL is a business and like any business they want to showcase their BEST product to the public. WNY and team that has NEVER won a championship is not a showcase product. Then there is the fans. They call themselves a mafia? Really? So now they have a bad team, an overpriced stadium that will haunt them for Years, and they equate themselves to crime lords and drug dealers? That's what the mafia is. Thugs and goons. But I suppose that fits a city that holds on to its dying teams. Dont get me started on their garbage hockey team the Sabres. Move the Bills to LA or somewhere where they have a chance. They are doomed if they remain in Buffalo

    • @manuelgrothe608
      @manuelgrothe608 2 года назад +3

      I vote Toronto, Ontario

    • @davidlafleche1142
      @davidlafleche1142 Год назад +2

      @@manuelgrothe608 The Blue Jays are planning to replace Rogers Centre. Even if they don't, it seats only 54,000 for football.

  • @jmn1234
    @jmn1234 2 года назад +312

    Clearly, they've never spent 5 minutes in the Buffalo area. A downtown stadium would kill the NFL in Buffalo. The open lots in Orchard Park are what makes the GameDay scene so special. The tailgate experience is an equal draw as the game itself.

    • @grimey78
      @grimey78 Год назад

      why do boomers love building giant ass parking lots everywhere it's already ruined enough of our cities

    • @TmnTyler2020
      @TmnTyler2020 Год назад +4

      Damn right!

    • @Viperion101
      @Viperion101 Год назад +9

      Same with Kansas City. People talk about to doing that for Arrowhead and Kauffman but it would ruin the whole game day culture

    • @kbaker96
      @kbaker96 Год назад +21

      Absolutely right. A downtown stadium will kill the tailgate. My first game we parked in a persons yard for $10 a good distance from the stadium and the home owner offered us hot chili and a place to use the bathroom if we needed it. Won't get that kind of hospitality without a tailgate.

    • @coryfiegel3294
      @coryfiegel3294 Год назад +1

      Well said

  • @coltonreed4488
    @coltonreed4488 Год назад +44

    A buffalo home game without its iconic weather would be soul crushing.

    • @allanritz5323
      @allanritz5323 Год назад +3

      Still remember that Bills-Colts snow bowl game a few years ago. Great experience.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад +1

      @@allanritz5323 remember the players making angels in the snow after the game - many of them had never seen snow and were enjoying the experience of playing in the snow and "playing" in the snow.

    • @jeff72496
      @jeff72496 Год назад

      Yeah but the players can't handle it in Buffalo anymore. Neither can McDermott

    • @911jedi8
      @911jedi8 Год назад

      Was it soul crushing when the Bills had to play a game this year in an indoor stadium in Detroit because of the “iconic weather?” The Minnesota Vikings were legendary for playing games in the cold and snow. Look where they are playing now. I’m sure their fans have gotten over it .

  • @vazqquueezy
    @vazqquueezy Год назад +4

    My question is….. why is our tax money funding privately owned businesses. The bills team is a business that generates 470 million and over the last year made 38.2% more. We can’t be the ones funding these billionaires companies when they chose to start a business. I know as fans we go to these buildings to support our teams but it’s not our job to pay for these things…our purchases from ticket and memorabilia should be enough. This clearly shows you how terribly our tax money is used instead of investing it in our small communities.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      not worth my time to comment on negatives

  • @thedailytalon9259
    @thedailytalon9259 2 года назад +11

    Why replace the current stadium? This is what the problem is with the NFL. You've got stadiums college that are over 100 years old. Keep these stadiums running and appreciate the history

    • @brandynhenry7107
      @brandynhenry7107 Год назад

      Basically there's only 5 stadiums out of 30 with any real history and 2 are marked for destruction so soon it will only be Arrowhead, Lambeau, and the Superdome(being somewhat generous counting that as historic imo). Carolina and Jacksonville are going to have the 5th and 6th oldest stadiums when this is built lol

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      @@brandynhenry7107 excuse me Brandon but the NFL has indicated that there are at least 10-15 stadium that need to be nor repaired but torn down and built new. Argue with thew NFL. History of a stadium doesn't mean a thing to the NFL - it is the building that matters to them and many other considerations I will not go into because I would only be wasting my time on those who are set in their ways and are "stuck in the quicksand".

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      How old are those stadiums that you write about? How up to date are their facilities? How up to date are their locker rooms? Do that have parking on site for thousands of vehicles,? Do they Have good police protection? Do they have so many things that the NFL requires? You know nothing about these facilities yet you recommend them - you are at the end of the fishing line and about to fall into the lake. THINK!

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      @@brandynhenry7107 the NFL has targeted 10-15 stadiums - (don't know if the list has been made public but people are allowed to assume) - I don't know what stadiums are targeted but feel certain they are both open-air and domed. If you can pry the information out of the NFL please do so and make it public here on You Tube with the understand that the information is true and accurate. Found it interesting Brandyn - I already answered your comment with basically the same answer as this.

    • @thedailytalon9259
      @thedailytalon9259 Год назад

      @@rhh3582 and that’s the issue with the NFL like I said. No appreciation for history. All about money.

  • @JV-wq1ct
    @JV-wq1ct Год назад +4

    So the public pays for it....then pays for tickets.....and the owners make profit off of it.....something doesn't seem right here.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      do you know any business that doesn't try to make a profit? What you don't realize is that part of the ticket price goes back to the state and Erie County because the money for the new Stadium is not a grant, not a gift it is a loan that needs to be paid back in 30 years. A large portion of that money is coming from the pockets of the Pegula family. Now where does the revenue for the Bills come from because you seem to forget the Pegula's have to pay the salaries of the Buffalo Bills players and the entire staff of the Bills organization in addition to the triple digit millions they are paying toward the stadium. Open your ears and listen to the news I find it hard to believe you are as dumb as your writing suggests.

  • @tesla3695
    @tesla3695 Год назад +4

    real grass field? hell yes. OP is a nice location and makes it easier traffic wise. It's literally a 15 min drive to Downtown Buffalo too. Also, if you were to ask anyone who lives in the suburbs where they are from they will tell you Buffalo so for those who say they shouldn;t be called the Buffalo Bills, you are just wrong.

    • @JamesWhite-sl2sb
      @JamesWhite-sl2sb Год назад

      THE SAN FRANCISCO " 49ers play in Santa Clara , about 45 miles from " THE CITY.... !?

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад +1

      @@JamesWhite-sl2sb who cares about SF - we are writing about the Buffalo Bills and their new stadium - how did you slip in?

    • @JamesWhite-sl2sb
      @JamesWhite-sl2sb Год назад

      @@rhh3582 " IS IS ORCHARD PARK 45 MILES FROM DOWNTOWN BUFFALO !?
      " MY POINT "
      GET A DAMM CLUE " TROLL . 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

    • @robertmiller2104
      @robertmiller2104 Год назад

      almost unheard of to build new grass stadium these days but is old element of game sadly missed Green Bay like only one I know of with grass.and now State Farm Stadium in Arizona has grass but wasnt to good for Super Bowl

  • @richardjoseph8683
    @richardjoseph8683 Год назад +6

    Interesting how Hochul's husband gets the multi million dollar concession contract? 🤔

    • @elparcero1220
      @elparcero1220 Год назад

      LOL, you think this is new, or being naive? Welcome to politics it's always been like this, doesn't matter if you're a D or R. They're ALL the same.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      stop the politics - this is about a football stadium - -I will say something that will strike you hard - go kiss the donald's ass.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      drop the politic crap - we are writing about the Buffalo Bills - got out and vote that's how you can express your shitty political views.

    • @robertmiller2104
      @robertmiller2104 Год назад

      very interesting

  • @dropitlikeitshot815
    @dropitlikeitshot815 2 года назад +6

    You lean towards the downtown location because you probably don't live here. The waterfront would be a disaster for a stadium. The traffic would be massively insane, and we don't have the interstate or road network to accompany. Would be a weekly inconvenience for everyone. As opposed to out here in Orchard Park where 1. There's room for the fans/tailgaters. And 2. The road network is time tested and has the ability to hold all these cars, as well as the residences on the nearby side streets that have been able to park us on their private property for years which also stops the stadium from having a monopoly on the pricing.

    • @tesla3695
      @tesla3695 Год назад +1

      big true. they are already doing a nice job developing the waterfront and adding things to do downtown. we dont need a stadium downtown. We already have the Sabres arena and the Bisons baseball field downtown. also, OP is literally a 15 min drive from downtown so if visitors really want to check out the city its just a few minutes away down the 90.

    • @dropitlikeitshot815
      @dropitlikeitshot815 Год назад +1

      ​@@tesla3695 Exactly, they're throwing concerts down there and stuff. It's more of a scenic setup. A giant stadium there would be an eyesore.

  • @Goosavich
    @Goosavich 2 года назад +70

    Honestly the stadium isn’t in the middle of no where it would be in the suburbs where the majority of bills fans are located. It’s sort of like how Gillette stadium is in Foxborogh and not Boston. There are so many advantages to this because it’s much more accessible not only to fans from their home but also just on the day of a game. The best tailgate in the NFL only exists as such because it’s located in the suburbs.
    Having it in OP and not having the dome are not only financially sound options, they are straight up better for the brand of the Bills. This was a great decision even if it was based in money.

    • @ryry562000
      @ryry562000 2 года назад +6

      I agree 100%, OP is definitely the better and easiest option, could u imagine trying to get out of the city after a Bill's game. The only good thing is the rail line that goes downtown from UB but like u said it would not be as good of a tailgating location. I like the idea of moving across Abbott rd then turn the old stadium into a parking lot, the only thing we can't loose is the Hammer lot lol. Also putting a domed stadium in really makes no sense, there is no better experience than being out in the elements playing football the way it was meant to be played..

    • @antigov3944
      @antigov3944 2 года назад +1

      I live in Tonawanda. Personally, I am never in orchard park unless it’s something to do with the bills. I’m not originally from WNY so if I’m wrong, please forgive me but the south towns get hammered with snow, I very rarely travel south of buffalo city limits. Orchard park is a good location because there is not a lot of people in orchard park . I forgot what point I was trying to make. Welcome to RUclips

    • @dylonmartinez7946
      @dylonmartinez7946 2 года назад

      The team is Called the New England Patriots not the Boston Patriots when they moved out of Boston they changed their name when the Bills did it they kept Buffalo where they don’t play anymore

    • @Goosavich
      @Goosavich 2 года назад +3

      @@dylonmartinez7946 Cities always cover large regions it’s not insane to have it in the next municipality over. You’d be surprised at how many stadiums aren’t actually located in their “named city” not sure why that matters.

    • @davidlafleche1142
      @davidlafleche1142 Год назад +1

      Red Sox owner Tom Yawkey, who used to be the richest owner in all of sports, tried desperately to build a dome in Boston. But even with all that money, he couldn't get past the bureaucracy.

  • @jtjr26
    @jtjr26 2 года назад +21

    I think the Orchard Park option is the one with less political baggage. If they were to pursue a stadium in the city then they have to go through the time-consuming process of acquiring the land by hook or by crook. This ties the issue up in court for years and pisses people off. Something no politician wants. Your previous point that they will never host a Superbowl anyway even if they build a dome stadium means the stadium is going to be of somewhat limited utility anyway. Also, what's the rush? The Bills have been looking into getting a new stadium for a long time so this finally settles the issue. If they are smart then they should do something similar to the Patriots and have some other commercial developments in the area.

    • @johnadams8371
      @johnadams8371 2 года назад +5

      it’s already going to be in OP. done deal

    • @rschultes24
      @rschultes24 2 года назад +3

      Not to mention the huge infustructure overhaul

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      You can be sure future development will follow, I laugh at these people who seem to think the stadium needs to have a giant shopping mall, 10-15 hotels, 20-30 restaurants, and all other kinds of crap - Since the existing stadium was built (some say 40+ some say 50+ years ago) have people complained about the lack of bars, the lack of restaurants, the lack of hotels, the lack of shopping malls - no. I will guarantee you that 90% of those businesses would go under within two years because people are going to the game and then want to get home. The Bills have restricted drinking in stadium for years, and they have vendors selling items all over the stadium to make money not only for the vendors but for the Bills office. I go to football games to watch and enjoy the game - not to get drunk, not to stuff my gut and be uncomfortable. What are people thinking.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      @@johnadams8371 true - but there is one study that has to be completed and it is being worked on - I have never heard of this type of study done for any other NFL team - what I understand and watched and listened to them speak on Buffalo television - a group has formed and they are demanding the Buffalo Bills provide some kind of services/whatever to the community (I assume that to mean the inner city). What most people know is that the Buffalo Bills team members donate time, talent, experience and money to the inner city and the Buffalo Bills, the Buffalo Bills Mafia, the Bills management and the Bills owners donate hundreds of thousand if not millions of dollars to charities to and for the people of Buffalo and people /players/teams country - wide. I may be wrong but I have a take-away from this group (and if I am wrong I ask that you write and correct me) they are trying to capitalize on the success of the Buffalo Bills, their management and their owners and get money for the inner city. I ask, I plead with anyone who believe I have written the objectives of this group incorrectly or misstated the objectives of this group to correct me.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      @@rschultes24 if downtown which ain't gonna happen!

  • @ronpeacock9939
    @ronpeacock9939 2 года назад +89

    Sadly, a downtown stadium has many hurdles you don't mention. As someone who grew up there, I know many of the issues... the biggest being space. The city was designed long before football and quite frankly, parking is at a premium. To build a stadium down there, means you need to build parking. For Hockey, that's not an issue. For a big football stadium.. that's a BIG issue. Not to mention travel. Points south only have 2 ways into the city. A bit of snow and those can be dangerous to even shut down. You also have so many buildings in the city that are labeled as historical sites that you would have trouble with that too. Honestly, if they wanted it on the waterfront.. the old site of the Lackawanna steel plant would be a decent place to look. Just south of the city, it's quite a bit of empty space. and only a few miles from the city limits. The best part of Orchard park.. they have the infrastructure in place for the games already and the parking. Keep it close enough to the current site is really the best move as it save rebuilding the much needed parking.

    • @ryry562000
      @ryry562000 2 года назад +3

      They do have the rail line from I believe UB with a few stops in between that would help a little with the parking but the biggest thing that a downtown stadium would kill is the tailgating because of the space u mention. The Lackawanna steel site would be a good option as it already burned most of it down anyways and it's an Eyesore but then again u would probably have the historical freeks not wanting something tore down. I like the idea of moving it across Abbott rd and then turn the old stadium into parking

    • @dropitlikeitshot815
      @dropitlikeitshot815 2 года назад +5

      They would never be able to accompany all the tailgaters, as well as the sheer volume of cars entering and leaving the stadium. Orchard Park is the better choice for so many reasons. I also live here btw.

    • @om7303
      @om7303 2 года назад +1

      park & ride fixes this

    • @ronpeacock9939
      @ronpeacock9939 2 года назад +4

      @@om7303 only some... if they could add rail service... that would be nice.. even for just everyday commutes... but sadly, if they've not done it yet.. I wouldnt look forward to it ever happening

    • @grimey78
      @grimey78 Год назад +7

      this is why you build good public transportation along with it america has enough giant parking lots already

  • @dylonmartinez7946
    @dylonmartinez7946 2 года назад +4

    To be fair taxpayer money is what is building the new Bills stadium, 850 million dollars of Public funds to help a billionaire get a new stadium that won’t even be eligible to host a Super Bowl, Nashville which is a more wealthy city and not struggling half the amount of Buffalo only gave the Titians (who have been better and won more then the Bills) 500 million to fund their new stadium

    • @MarloSoBalJr
      @MarloSoBalJr 2 года назад

      $500 million in 1996(?) is close to a billion dollars today. That's a lot of money Nashville invested for some fat ass crybaby oil tycoon from Texas
      The Pegulas also owns the Buffalo Sabres and were screwing with the county seat to uproot both the Bills and Sabres to Austin, TX. Problem is, Buffalo know that these two teams are their one asset they can't allow to leave. What else would the city have?

    • @tesla3695
      @tesla3695 Год назад

      the state wastes so much tax payer money on NYS's turd (NYC). It's about time some state money came to Buffalo.

    • @dylonmartinez7946
      @dylonmartinez7946 Год назад

      @@tesla3695 for a football stadium but your upset about NYC that by itself accounts for most of the states GDP

  • @jondelmore3163
    @jondelmore3163 2 года назад +11

    Amazing video as always! Im a big fan of this channel....Idk if youve done this yet, but could you do a video on the Tampa Bay Rays or the Oakland A's? MLB said theyre going to expand after those cities get new stadiums, or if the teams have to relocate.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад +1

      I am not a fan of baseball, but I will write this, and you can take my written words for whatever worth or worthlessness you read - Most sport teams are always looking to get more, and new facilities and they don't want to pay for those facilities - they want the taxpayers to front the entire cost - how do they do that - they threaten to move the team to another city. I say this to you - don't give in to the team owners - they have to pay at least 65-70% up front cost and it has to be guaranteed with money in an account that is not controlled by the team. I will guarantee you if you pay the cost for new facilities the owners will be back in 5 years looking for upgrades at taxpayer expense or "we will move our team to another city who will give us what we want". Don't play their game.

  • @anthony_rivera4735
    @anthony_rivera4735 2 года назад +33

    Do a video about the bears new stadium plans once they confirm the Arlington heights stadium

    • @antigov3944
      @antigov3944 2 года назад +6

      If he waits until more information is known, the video will be better. I am also keeping an eye out. 🐻⬇️

    • @manuelgrothe608
      @manuelgrothe608 2 года назад +4

      Toronto, Ontario is better

    • @davidbuswa9425
      @davidbuswa9425 2 года назад +6

      @@manuelgrothe608 Toronto can't afford a NFL team. it's a Leaf town The city should give it up on that dream and support the Argonauts instead

    • @manuelgrothe608
      @manuelgrothe608 2 года назад +4

      @@davidbuswa9425 Canadians need to sign a deal with the NFL

    • @mariagloriadelcarmen
      @mariagloriadelcarmen 2 года назад +3

      agree

  • @simonmarshall19
    @simonmarshall19 Год назад +1

    My favourite moment at the stadium was the nhl outdoor winter classic . Buffalo sabres vs Pittsburgh Penguins 08

  • @FranBushardt
    @FranBushardt 2 года назад +8

    When Rich Stadium was Built, it was one of the first Stadiums with a Video Board to show Instant Replays!

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      yes it was and we all know the original stadium as "The Rock Pile" - those were the days when the Bills were the league winners in the old American Football League until the NFL shut them down and they became the Buffalo Bills in the American Football Conference vs the NFC - the National Football Conference - names and divisions have all changed since those days but remember our winning quarterback Jack Kemp? You can watch some of those AFL games on You Tube believe it or not - I have.

    • @FranBushardt
      @FranBushardt Год назад

      @@rhh3582 So You have a Great Memory of the AFL ALSO. I don’t know if Ralph forced Lou Sabin to Quit or If Lou quit on his own which we will never know, BUT I Have to believe if Lou had not quit after the 65 Season, HE HAD A TEAM THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BEAT THE PACKERS IN THE FIRST SUPER BOWL that went against Kansas City. If Saban could have beaten the Packs, The Trophy may not have been the Lombardi! Joel Collier lost in the 66 Championship game to the Chiefs and then the Bills went down the Toilet until Saban came back with OJ Simpson and Made the Bills Respected again!

  • @TracksideViews
    @TracksideViews 2 года назад +10

    There should always be room for small market teams

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      totally agree with you - as I wrote this - what flashed before my eyes was the words from a movie you may recall "Field of Dreams" - the words "build it and they will come" - so it is with all small-town markets and there are man - and they will come! But the big bad wolf wouldn't allow that to happen - the NFL is money hungry if you catch my drift.

  • @kevinpatrick5656
    @kevinpatrick5656 2 года назад +6

    After watching this video and hearing your comments towards the end, nothing thrills me more than the fact the Orchard Park site was chosen...

  • @gibby_the_obsolete
    @gibby_the_obsolete Год назад +2

    As someone whose spent his falls and winters for the last 15 years going to bills games; a downtown location would ruin the fan experience.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      So so true GR - football is an outdoor game and should be played outdoors - our stadium is an outdoor stadium. Something else that is going to happen the NFL is going to demand that all football fields be natural grass - can natural grass grow inside a domed stadium without sunlight, fertilizer and a watering system? And how are the teams who play inside a dome going to respond to the NFL - better yet - how are the taxpayers who payed for those domes going to respond?

  • @MarcusDoughty15
    @MarcusDoughty15 Год назад +18

    I’m excited for a new stadium but it better not be domed bc those snow games are awesome and football in the snow is just so fun to watch

    • @lesterpaul9657
      @lesterpaul9657 Год назад

      Fun to watch yes, but is it fun to play?
      Ask a player how it feels to have almost no grip.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      @@lesterpaul9657 Your answer is in the number of years the Buffalo Bills have played their games in an outdoor non-domed stadium - think back to the high points of the Bills games and not the lows, think back to those games where the snow on the field was 6 inches deep and the game continued. Like all people in all types of weather - you adapt with the proper clothing/uniforms. Right now I have a picture in my mind of Bills players making angels in the snow after they won the game - that doesn't sound to me like they can't play in cold weather or snow. Your point I would guess is one of three reasons - you don't like the Buffalo Bills, you don't want the Buffalo Bills to play in Buffalo or you don't want to use tax dollars and parking/amenities revenue to pay for the stadium along with the dollars coming from the owners of the team, the NFL and a portion of the ticket cost. You are not a Bills fan.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      It will be an open-air stadium with a covering of approximately 65% of the seating area but the rest will be open to whatever nature decides - and that is the way football was originally played and that is the way I believe football should be played now and in the future.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      @@lesterpaul9657 Lester those are questions best asked of the coaches and players of the Buffalo Bills and not of You Tubers and I have already given comments to your questions - do you not know how to read?

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      no dome but the seating area will be 65% covered to break wind and weather - and from what I have heard the seating will be much more comfortable and the view will be 10-15% times better than it now is.

  • @buffalopregame5904
    @buffalopregame5904 Год назад +2

    I'm so happy to hear that he is throwing in his own money to help pay for the stadium. What a guy!

    • @wmw3629
      @wmw3629 Год назад +1

      A pittance, just like Irsay in Indianapolis 🤬

  • @davidyoung5114
    @davidyoung5114 Год назад +1

    Let's hope that Buffalo gets to host the NHL's 20th-anniversary Winter Classic in 2028. Having a new stadium would be a positive step in having that happen!

  • @lilsoup442
    @lilsoup442 Год назад +2

    I don’t wanna pay for that stadium 😤

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      what it is going to cost you in increase taxes is probably less than the money you spend on drinks each week - quit crying and do two things - don't watch any of the Buffalo Bills games and two stop drinking.

  • @karlthekillergamer
    @karlthekillergamer 2 года назад +2

    There are concert's there sometimes and middle of nowhere is over exaggerating

  • @diggergeensen860
    @diggergeensen860 2 года назад +5

    Why the hell build a new stadium, and significantly cut seating capacity? It needs to be the same or more IMO

    • @tesla3695
      @tesla3695 Год назад

      yea, thats my only real complaint tbh. less seats higher ticket prices.

    • @diggergeensen860
      @diggergeensen860 Год назад

      @@tesla3695 Yup and ruins the atmosphere. Those cheap seats are the loudest sections in any stadium. End up with a crowd full of caviar eating yuppies

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      Number one is cost, number two is the design of the new stadium and the land it will occupy, number three the seats themselves will be larger and more comfortable, there will be more open space and less congestion and there is the probability that there will be standing room for 5,000 somewhere on the upper level. So, in total it will seat/stand 67,000 - that is from what I understand of the present stadium a loss/gain in comfort of 8,000 at most (this is subject to change). Also, there will more areas for concessions and beverages - so which would you rather have - more people squeezed into their seats, less bathrooms, less concession/beverage areas and more congestion. Your choice. I would prefer the first three over the last one.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      @@tesla3695 you have no idea what the ticket price will be - Even Bills management haven't evaluated what the costs will be for seating, but they have said that they are keeping in mind their fan base and their middle-income status and that is something you should know - they are thinking about you - no other team would consider their fans - they would just go and hike the prices as high as they could - that is not the Buffalo Bills. They are concerned about fan costs. Think about those people who are paying $40 to park their cars on someone front yard right now. No one can predict what the cost for anything will be in year 2026 so why worry now for and about the unknownthree years away.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      @@tesla3695 bigger and more comfortable seats, ticket prices have yet to be determined - the building hasn't even started yet and you want prices for something that doesn't even exist - THINK.

  • @Siggy114692
    @Siggy114692 2 года назад +1

    "What's the rush?" The current stadium was built in the 70s... you think that's rushing???
    Orchard Park is 25% less for the same stadium and the traffic/parking downtown would be terrible.

  • @tedharrington5432
    @tedharrington5432 2 года назад +6

    11:57 - 12:13 Agree 100%

  • @ThatwhiteSTI
    @ThatwhiteSTI Год назад +2

    The stadium where it is a perfect area, putting it downtown would absolutely destroy the city, and traffic. They already have issues with game days. Having it across the street is a win win.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      you are right on point.

  • @nick011182
    @nick011182 Год назад

    I see both arguments. An open air stadium is what we’ve grown to love here in Buffalo because of the experience it offers and the optics. A dome however would provide another venue that could host more than 8 games and a few concerts a year. I guess it comes down to how long it would take to pay for it.

  • @joepasci4970
    @joepasci4970 2 года назад +2

    Wait my state is giving 600 million dollars, I better gets some free fu$%ing tickets when I pay my taxes. 🤬😡

    • @corp4life342
      @corp4life342 2 года назад +2

      Did you get free Yankee stuff (1.6 billion of tax $) or Mets (900million) Buts that's ok because it's for NYC right?? About damned time my tax $ beings spent in my own community instead of footing the bill for downstate !!

    • @lladnar998
      @lladnar998 2 года назад +1

      Yeah....nope...the only thing you will get from the Pegulas and your city will be higher ticket prices fo cover the exorbitant cost. Oh and have fun paying more for parking etc. All so you can watch a Dying football team that has NEVER won a championship in its 50+ years of existence. But hey at least you have the Sabres....oh....yeah....oops. your bad buffalo. *shrugs* thank God I don't live there

    • @tesla3695
      @tesla3695 Год назад

      How much do you think the state wastes on NY state's turd aka NYC?

    • @tesla3695
      @tesla3695 Год назад

      @@corp4life342 NYC...New York's turd. They should just pinch it off.

    • @joepasci4970
      @joepasci4970 Год назад

      @@tesla3695 about as much as they sent to nazi Ukraine.

  • @jacksonconley5117
    @jacksonconley5117 2 года назад +18

    I predict the Bills will win their first super bowl on the same year they play their last game at Highmark Stadium.

    • @corp4life342
      @corp4life342 2 года назад +5

      Maybe win the Super Bowl all 3 years they have left in Highmark!!

    • @antigov3944
      @antigov3944 2 года назад +6

      I honestly don’t think it will take until 2026 for that to happen. Their trajectory puts them in the super bowl THIS year. Anything less is a disappointment.

    • @TmnTyler2020
      @TmnTyler2020 Год назад +2

      We're winning this year.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад +1

      Something I heard this past week - two Super Bowl games were played in an open-air stadium on the east coast in the dead of winter - I believe I know the name of the stadiums, but I want to check my facts first - I do know this there will never be a Super Bowl game in Buffalo even if we had a dome - the NFL has a thing against Buffalo ever since the old AFL became part of the NFL - and they never liked Ralph Wilson - Mr Pegula is a different personality - he is likeable and as far as we know easy to get along with - we don't know what the other NFL team owners think of him. As I wrote earlier - we have our hopes and dreams and we know we have a damn good team.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      My understanding is the last game at the existing stadium pending no construction/legal delays will be the end of 2025 and the first game in the new stadium will be in 2026 again pending construction/legal delays.

  • @ajrichards1190
    @ajrichards1190 2 года назад +4

    The 1st renderings look what a renovated Highmark Stadium will look like if they used portions of the existing structure. Bills are a small market team and the existing area to build a stadium makes sense

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      Sorry - the NFL has ruled that the now HighMark Stadium has to go - it is build new or the team goes to another location.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      the existing stadium will be torn down and converted into a large parking area.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      The existing structure will be demolished and turned into a parking area. No more talk about the Highmark Stadium - It will, hopefully, be replaced on opening day of 2026 - parking area will be available within a year+ later.

  • @mikehunt8997
    @mikehunt8997 Год назад +3

    I'm glad I moved out of NY so I don't have to pay for that fucking stadium!

  • @joedimaggio3687
    @joedimaggio3687 2 года назад +1

    What does it mean for the tax payers of Buffalo? If the tax payers are paying for this stadium than it's bad for the people of Buffalo.

  • @JStationC
    @JStationC Год назад +1

    "90s Bills never lost a playoff game...... in their home stadium"

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      Forget the past - this is the here and now and the future - what world are you living in?

  • @RhinoXpress
    @RhinoXpress 2 года назад +3

    bills playing in a dome would not be the same bills.

    • @MarloSoBalJr
      @MarloSoBalJr 2 года назад

      True, but money has to be made. Do you care about home advantage or a return investment?

    • @RhinoXpress
      @RhinoXpress 2 года назад

      @@MarloSoBalJr I dont know there are plenty of cold weather football stadiums that do just fine financially playing out doors and I'd say have a good if not great return of investment. Go look at green bay for example, they are one of the smallest markets in the league and they have no issue with the amount of money the get from packers games alone each season.

  • @luisreyes1963
    @luisreyes1963 2 года назад +1

    Maybe this was the owner's way of apologizing to the City Of Buffalo for choking in 4 Super Bowls. 🤷‍♂️

  • @rocxsolid
    @rocxsolid Год назад

    I got family in Buffalo and have been like 3-4 times and a downtown stadium would be a disaster they need space for their wild tailgating 😭😂

  • @jamesmincks6720
    @jamesmincks6720 2 года назад +3

    Crazy thing is Pegula is a billionaire and wants public funding for the new bills stadium. I think he should pay for it himself out of pocket instead of forcing tax payers to pay for his team's new stadium 🏟️.

    • @tesla3695
      @tesla3695 Год назад

      How much do you think he has spent developing the waterfront? Dude's the reason the Bills are still in Buffalo and not Toronto. You are not from here.

  • @Itshadow306
    @Itshadow306 Год назад +1

    If things don’t work out in Buffalo then St. Louis should definitely get the Bills the Dome is still there and they can use it for a few years until a new stadium is built and St. Louis is a much bigger market than Buffalo.

  • @lazier96
    @lazier96 2 года назад +8

    Really surprised the Buffalo mayor does not want the stadium in the city. It would encourage new development and generate more tax revenues.

    • @johnadams8371
      @johnadams8371 2 года назад +4

      how so? the stadium gets used 8 days a year. 11 including concerts. what businesses will build for 11 days of the year?

    • @johnadams8371
      @johnadams8371 2 года назад

      don’t kid yourself.

    • @anthony_rivera4735
      @anthony_rivera4735 2 года назад +2

      If the bills win the afc East in the next several years this new stadium can host playoff games

    • @lazier96
      @lazier96 2 года назад

      @@johnadams8371 Could host a couple University of Buffalo football games, Buffalo has a Spring Football League team, they also. have a professional Soccer team, they could host a Bands of America invitational, Monster Jam event, weddings, business meeting and special events in the suites, concerts, host an NHL game like Wrigley field has done. The opportunities are greater than you may think. Mixed use developments could certainly be constructed over time around the stadium. Even minor league baseball stadiums have spurred development such as in the downtowns of Ft. Wayne Indiana and Greenville, North Carolina. Indianapolis is another great example with the Hoosier Dome constructed in the middle of the city in 1984 and being replaced over 10 years ago with Lucas Oil Stadium which has really helped the downtown. Buffalo has a great opportunity.

    • @ryry562000
      @ryry562000 2 года назад +7

      2 of the biggest issues with putting it downtown are parking and getting the land which Buffalo has a lot of historical buildings that the historical society would have wrapped up in red tape that it would probably be years before they even started building. Oh and of course it would kill the tailgating gating

  • @CNSPORTZEDITZ
    @CNSPORTZEDITZ 2 года назад +7

    I hope they get a new stadium as long as it’s not domed

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      it is open-air and the seating area is 65% covered to break the wind and protect fans.

  • @samueldixon6857
    @samueldixon6857 2 года назад +3

    Put it down town period

    • @corp4life342
      @corp4life342 2 года назад

      Ever been to a Sabres game(18,960) in downtown Buffalo??? If the Bills were downtown(65-80,000) we'd have to leave for the game on Saturday morning & wouldn't get home till Monday afternoon even though it's just a 35min drive for most

    • @tesla3695
      @tesla3695 Год назад

      @@corp4life342 i swear ppl complaining about it being in OP (a 15 min drive to downtown) are not from WNY.

  • @davidkuharich9269
    @davidkuharich9269 Год назад +2

    I like the Bill's glad they are staying in buffalo were they belong . I'm a Former Brown's supporter so I know what I'm talking about.

    • @foxinurbox
      @foxinurbox Год назад

      You’re always welcomed to join the mafia!

    • @shuyelbari8853
      @shuyelbari8853 Год назад

      How poor is the Dog pound at your current field compared to the original Browns field from the 80's.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад +1

      The Buffalo Bills are quite happy in Buffalo and want to stay here. Would it surprise you that many former Bills players still live-in Western New York - they believe Western New York is a nice place to lived.

    • @shuyelbari8853
      @shuyelbari8853 Год назад

      @@rhh3582 , Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay coming to WNY Sunday night football.

  • @fumedrummer
    @fumedrummer Год назад +2

    I live in Buffalo. There's no land near a highway to build a stadium (as was covered in this video) and there's no big roads leading to a highway that would work. Getting out of a sold-out Sabres game downtown with only 16,000 (or so) fans is a nightmare. 60,000+ fans would suck completely. The only way to build in the city itself is to raze a few shitty neighborhoods and build some roads to highways. But, there would still be shitty neighborhoods left around the new site and we'd be stuck with the same problem that kept fans away from the LA Coliseum: leave your car in the parking lot to watch the game and come back to a vandalized vehicle. The Rams left town because of this many years ago. The main artery through the city is the Kensington Expressway (constructed in the 1960s) and the State and local leaders want to fuck it over with construction of a stupid roof that will take ten years to build (and probably fail shortly after a major snow storm). The city proper is not big enough to build a current-era NFL stadium. When the Bills started in 1965, they played in War Memorial Stadium (in a now-shitty neighborhood)... a WPA style-less monstrosity also known as The Rockpile until it was demolished after the Bills went to the suburbs. There's a downtown baseball stadium in Buffalo, but its for minor-league ball. The Toronto Blue Jays played their home games there during the pandemic while Canada went into hibernation. But, fans weren't allowed into the games. That stadium hasn't held it's full fan capacity since it was brand new, several decades ago. Luckily, baseball typically doesn't have to deal with inclement weather like the NHL and NFL do, which can snarl traffic.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      I read and understand exactly what you are saying and agree with you.

    • @bufnyfan1
      @bufnyfan1 Год назад

      In the 1960s the Dallas Cowboys played at the Cotton Bowl and ownership wanted to build a new downtown stadium to get away from the Cotton Bowl as the neighborhood around it was seedy and dangerous. The city balked at helping build the stadium so the Cowboys accepted an offer to build a then state-of-the-art stadium in the suburbs in Irvine, Texas (Texas Stadium)

    • @bufnyfan1
      @bufnyfan1 Год назад

      The late WR for the KC Chiefs Otis Taylor wrote a book called "The Need to Win" and said of all the NFL stadiums he ever played in War Memorial Stadium in Buffalo was the absolute worst. He said the KC team bus would be pelted with eggs and rocks going to and from a game. He also wrote that you had to run to the locker room as fast as you could after a game otherwise the hot water in the dressing rooms would run out. LOL

  • @antoniomier5389
    @antoniomier5389 2 года назад +5

    Love this team. Buffalo. Bills. Best. QB Josh Allen. Rocks. Go. Bills#1

  • @ryanwilliams560
    @ryanwilliams560 Год назад +5

    We had another bad stadium deal for a small market team

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      please explain - you write with a bitterness and anger - so an explanation is needed.

  • @foxinurbox
    @foxinurbox Год назад +1

    Tell me you’ve never been to WNY without telling me. While OP is not Buffalo being 20 mins outside of the city allows for easier transportation, better parking and our traditional tailgating. None of these would be easy or possible in the city. Nor is it “in the middle of know where”.
    It’s not completely uncommon for states to pay the bill and while the Pegulas should be paying more they are paying something.
    As far as the stadium only being used 8 times a year is just wrong. Many concerts, community events, HS games even rec games.
    The Ralph is 50 years old. Its long over due. The region deserves a new stadium. The condescension in this video is egregious.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      The Pegula's for your information are paying a lot more than had originally been said. Don't sell the Pegula's short - they like the people and the city of Buffalo. They like the Buffalo Bills, the Buffalo Sabres, the Buffalo Bandits, the Rochester American Hockey Team and other small teams. They have invested in that building right across the street from where the Sabres play - that was paid for with their money. I don't know who these you tubers are who write in the negative - I don't know where they are from, I know nothing about them, but I do get the feeling that they are against anything with the name Buffalo. That the same feeling I get from the NFL. I unfortunately after having lived 80 years I feel like some of those writing are living in the darkages or are on the far far political right and are anti anything. For years Buffalo had the expression "Talking Proud" I don't have that feeling anymore - I get the feeling that the I is more important than the we and I am saddened.

  • @Jay-nk6dm
    @Jay-nk6dm Год назад +2

    Lmfao stadium investment thousands of times over have proven to never be worth their “investment” in the stadium. You put in over billion dollars for 60k people to use 8 days, maybe 10, a year lol. Absolutely insane for a small place like Buffalo. Imagine what the teachers, fireman, police, and local industry could do with $1 billion

  • @norbertamberg8730
    @norbertamberg8730 Год назад +4

    The only sure thing that comes out of the stadium deal is that Kathy Hochul will get rich from the kick backs.

    • @mikeburke9726
      @mikeburke9726 Год назад +1

      Especially her husband

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      sick

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      @@mikeburke9726 keep politics out of the Bills Stadium deal - I don't care what part you are for or against - this is about the Buffalo Bills Stadium and not politics. - hated to say this but I will - you sound like a trumper.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      stop with the political crap. Your political views are not welcome - express your views when you vote - if you vote.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      @@mikeburke9726 we are non-political - we are writing/discussing the Buffalo Bills and not politics - express your political views when you vote if you vote.

  • @manuelgrothe608
    @manuelgrothe608 2 года назад +3

    I vote Toronto, Ontario's BMO Field

    • @davidbuswa9425
      @davidbuswa9425 2 года назад +3

      Dude, BMO is way too small for the demands the NFL proposes on league stadium. Toronto should support the Argonauts instead

    • @manuelgrothe608
      @manuelgrothe608 2 года назад +3

      @@davidbuswa9425 Canadian Football League or National Football League

    • @manuelgrothe608
      @manuelgrothe608 2 года назад +3

      @@davidbuswa9425 Canadians are good in Hockey, Basketball Soccer, and Baseball

    • @mariagloriadelcarmen
      @mariagloriadelcarmen 2 года назад +3

      Canadians and Americans are English-French people

    • @terranatura4443
      @terranatura4443 2 года назад +3

      I vote NFL in 🇨🇦

  • @beny.391
    @beny.391 2 года назад +10

    I feel like the Bills and State would of been better off going halfies on a replica of the Seahawks stadium. Give the added bonus of being MLS complaint for when the inevitable "Can Buffalo have a MLS team?" happens.
    If that wasn't to his liking then he can relocate em to Austin as he threatened and Bills Mafia can act accordingly outside his buildings near the Sabres arena.
    I look forward to much alcoholism and spine severing via table slamming in their new stadium regardless.

    • @manuelgrothe608
      @manuelgrothe608 2 года назад +1

      Tim Hortons Field in Toronto, ON

    • @davidlafleche1142
      @davidlafleche1142 Год назад +2

      Why don't they just renovate the old place?

    • @manuelgrothe608
      @manuelgrothe608 Год назад +1

      you mean High Mark Stadium?

    • @davidlafleche1142
      @davidlafleche1142 Год назад +1

      @@manuelgrothe608 Oh, please. I hope they don't change the name every year, like the Dolphins do.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад +2

      Ben Y - the design of the Buffalo Bills Stadium is final, the location is final, the cost divisions are final. what isn't final yet is, and this is apparently a cultural thing I've never heard happening in other NFL locations, an organization wants to know what the Buffalo Bills are going to give back to the city. Right now, I know the Bills as individuals and their fans give a lot to the city and the people of Buffalo and the community - I don't know what this cultural thing is all about but as I understand there are negotiations on going - I believe I know what is wanted and I don't want to get into a cultural war. But in theory, these people could cause the entire stadium to fall apart and then I guarantee you the Buffalo Bills would leave Buffalo and those "cultural wonks" will cry saying "it isn't our fault" - Bullshi* it will be your fault and believe me the people of Buffalo will get even.

  • @progressivelibertarianview8832
    @progressivelibertarianview8832 2 года назад +4

    MetLife had a superbowl and they weren't domed. It would be fun!

    • @GeauxTigers7189
      @GeauxTigers7189 2 года назад +2

      Agreed. It will be very disappointing if they decide to put a roof on it. The weather does not have to be perfect for the superbowl. The superbowl is just another football game. Football is about the crazy weather. Was also very disappointed when the Vikings decided to build an indoor stadium

    • @progressivelibertarianview8832
      @progressivelibertarianview8832 2 года назад +1

      @@GeauxTigers7189 these new multi use stadiums are meant to remain functional for other events during winter months(Dec, Jan,Feb, Mar) and after the football season is over. Retractable would've been better

    • @mariagloriadelcarmen
      @mariagloriadelcarmen 2 года назад +2

      NYC FC should try MetLife Stadium

    • @terranatura4443
      @terranatura4443 2 года назад +2

      @@mariagloriadelcarmen Yankee Stadium is crazy for NFL and MLS

    • @mariagloriadelcarmen
      @mariagloriadelcarmen 2 года назад +2

      in Boston it was the Patriots and Red Sox a Fenway Park

  • @oregonborn9769
    @oregonborn9769 Год назад +1

    No dome. Open to the elements for the field closed on the bleachers. The weather is a home strength of ours.

  • @nneryfjiisdfgyyk4061
    @nneryfjiisdfgyyk4061 Год назад +2

    Don't you dare move the BILLS they are perfectly fine were they are at in orchard park new york they have everything they need here at Ralph Wilson stadium its a great stadium I swear moving the BILLS to a different stadium would be the stupidest thing in the world that would just ruin our reputation in sports in Buffalo new york if they would move the BILLS some were else that will never happen cause the BILLS are obviously a Buffalo team and the logo shows it.

  • @richardlorith6936
    @richardlorith6936 Год назад +2

    looking at the pictures having never been to Buffalo, it looks like there needs to be some development in the area

    • @tesla3695
      @tesla3695 Год назад +3

      Downtown Buffalo is a 15 min drive from the current stadium. If visitors really want to see the city, it's literally a few minutes away.

    • @foxinurbox
      @foxinurbox Год назад +2

      Buffalo has been developing at fast pace in recent years. OP is a suburb a lot more green space. Like the previous comment it’s only 15mins away from the city

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      Please remember the movie "Field of Dreams" - the most famous line "build it and they will come" and come they did - that applies to the area around the new stadium - remember there is already a neighbor next to the new stadium a University/college - don't know the number of students but they have an athletic field so that tells me something. If you are thinking shopping malls, big box stores - now way - but remember food and beverage will be available in the stadium - for those who want to go to a bar or restaurant - I have a warning - you can't drink and drive and you can't steer a car with your hand full of food - and a further warning - you better believe that area will be well policed - so don't say you haven't been warned. If small Mom's and Pop's want they can build their own places but everything now and in the future carries risk.

  • @rhh3582
    @rhh3582 Год назад +6

    There are lot of other considerations to be considered when locating a new stadium for the Buffalo Bills football team. A major consideration for the Orchard Park location is the relatively new training facility which is considered state of the art location next to the existing stadium and is considered the best in the NFL and would be available and close to the new stadium for the Bills football players - training and conditioning are an absolute must for players of the Buffalo Bills level. A consideration against a downtown location is the traffic pattern - literally dozens and dozens of streets would have to re-routed and widened and utilities would have to be relocated. Downtown Buffalo does not have the space for such a large structure and the costs in relocating those facilities would add more than a few billion dollars to the cost of a downtown stadium. Also to be considered are the private dwellings that would have to be destroyed, businesses relocated and other unknown facilities destroyed/relocated - but to where would they be located - if they are relocated outside the city of Buffalo that will terribly impact the fiscal status of the City of Buffalo. The city can not just go and extend its size limits so legal battles and court cases would have to be settled and that would take years to do. Orchard Park is outside the Buffalo city limits that is true but consider this - the New York Jets and the New York Giants are not even located in the state of New York yet are known as New York State teams - your point about being located in Orchard Park is moot and frankly - stupid. Back to the Orchard Park location - less interruption to civilian population because it is mainly open land - granted there is a higher level education facility located on the property being considered but the relocation of the school to the city of Buffalo would better serve the city, the county and the student body which the school serves. The existing stadium as I understand would be torn down which would create more parking space and revenue and parking would not have to be on private property at high cost as it is now with the existing stadium. As I understand the proposed design of the new stadium in Orchard Park would be larger in size than the existing stadium but there would be less seating but the amenities would be much better and there would be standing room on the upper level for an additional 5,000 persons which by my estimate bring the person attending games level to 67,000 or about 3,000-4,000 less than the current stadium and the new stadium would be partially covered for fan comfort. The distance people would have to drive to the new stadium would be quite similar to what they drive now whereas if the stadium were to be built in downtown Buffalo nothing but mass traffic jams and confusion would result and widened road would involve the demolition of addition buildings so roads could be widened and where would parking space be located - would parking towers (more than one would be necessary) involving costs in the millions of additional dollars and how much more of the downtown business section would have to be demolished not to mention the legal hassles and delays into the 2030's. While it is true the new stadium would seat fewer persons they would be seated in better comfort and would be willing to pay more for a comfortable seat and better amenities. Most import the Buffalo Mafia would be able to continue with tailgate parties in Orchard Park parking areas which they could not do in downtown Buffalo and that would be a terrible blow to the Buffalo Bills Mafia know the world over. There are many other items I could mention in favor of the Orchard Park facility but I know the Buffalo Mafia and the Mafia are the people who support the Buffalo Bills. It is true Buffalo is one of the smallest football cities (what about Green Bay) but they have always had the highest attendance in their present location during the life of the existing stadium (this according to NFL records). It is true the population of Buffalo is not as large as those monster domed cities but the Buffalo Bills Mafia draws from Niagara Falls/Fort Erie/Toronto Canada and other Canadian areas in addition to Niagara Falls/ Lewiston/Youngstown/Rochester/Syracuse and other communities in New York State. The Buffalo Bills are loved by their fan base and do support them (example when Josh Allen's grandmother died Buffalo Bills fans contributed more than 1.5 million dollars to the Buffalo Children's Hospital and when player Knox's brother died Buffalo fans have at earliest count contributed more than $250,000 to his brother's memorial cancer fund, - not many teams/communities with football teams in large cities do what the Buffalo Bills Mafia do and "Buffalo is a small city" - think also about the ball players who live in the suburbs of Buffalo who would have to commute back and forth to downtown Buffalo daily in traffic - think about the tv crews and their equipment - which is massive - where would they park in a congested downtown Stadium area. You yourself have said that Buffalo is a small town city - where does all the space needed for a large stadium go in such a small space. Your reasoning is not on point it is totally off point. LaBreeceTV my impression of your video is to have the Buffalo Bills move to a larger city - which you indicated would be Austin Texas. Your thought processes are totally off point and wrong. The best place for a new Buffalo Bills Stadium is Orchard Park and the Buffalo Bills Mafia (where ever they may come from to attend games and in whatever kind of weather) will fully support the Orchard Park Buffalo Bills stadium. Take your video with its hidden meaning of moving the Buffalo Bills to a larger city and leave the Western New York Buffalo Bills in their new stadium where they belong. We the people of Western New York support our sport teams and love our teams - your video is against all the people of Western New York not just some. Your words, thoughts and videos are not welcomed by Buffalo New York citizens and our Sport Teams - so take your Texas cows and go roam the wilds of the state of Texas one of the most uncivilized states in the 50 United States where citizens of the state are not treated as equals and the state is governed by a man and party so biased the words equality, freedom , liberty and justice do not exist. As an added thought - you mentioned in your video "private ownership" how many NFL teams stadiums are owned by their the teams owners. The New York Jets and the New York Giants received literally millions upon million for their stadium from the taxpayers of New York and they are not even located in New York. I will personally debate you or any of you associates at LaBreeceTV about stadium locations in the 50 states of this Union.

    • @jamesbecker-yy1gm
      @jamesbecker-yy1gm Год назад

      I would like to add a few things and I would but you got it fully cover. Thank you for commenting for the Buffalo Bills fan and the Bills Mafia. How long have I been. Bills fan you ask.? My first game was at the old rock pile lol. I am 67 years old. My Buffalo Bills Win Lose or draw they are MY BUFFALO BILLS. Again Thank You.

    • @jamesbecker-yy1gm
      @jamesbecker-yy1gm Год назад

      Oh yea the hell with Austin Texas

  • @cardphins68
    @cardphins68 2 года назад +2

    Could you imagine Western New York hosting a Super Bowl? Neither can I, LOL!

    • @dylonmartinez7946
      @dylonmartinez7946 2 года назад +1

      It doesn’t meet any criteria to host a Super Bowl, fans would be sleeping on the streets

    • @MarloSoBalJr
      @MarloSoBalJr 2 года назад

      @@dylonmartinez7946 Niagara Falls?

    • @dylonmartinez7946
      @dylonmartinez7946 2 года назад

      @@MarloSoBalJr still not enough rooms for people to stay in plus the Traffic would make it 2 hours to get to Orchard Park, it takes me over 40 minutes to get parked on regular game day and I live 3 miles away near Abbott

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      The NFL will never allow the Buffalo Bills to host a Super Bowl even if they win a Super Bowl. The NFL has forever had a thing against the Buffalo Bills from their days in the upstart AFL (Buffalo wone several championships in the AFL with Jack Kemp as quarterback) - with the success of the AFL the NFL set out to destroy the competition and eventually the AFL became the AFC in the NFL, and the NFL management hated the Buffalo Bills owner ralph Wilson. Never will the NFL do anything for the Bills - but they are helping to finance the new Bills stadium because New York State taxpayers paid for the New York Jets/New York Giants new stadium located in the state of New Jersey.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      @@MarloSoBalJr out of the question

  • @donniewebster7041
    @donniewebster7041 2 года назад +2

    Couldn’t they build it near the University, and they can both use it?

    • @tylerkochman1007
      @tylerkochman1007 2 года назад

      Don’t think the university needs a bigger stadium, though.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      There isn't enough room near the downtown University, but they are building the new stadium next to the university in the south towns area. The south towns campus remains in place - the school and the stadium in effect become neighbors.

  • @dougbosworth8745
    @dougbosworth8745 Год назад +1

    License fees and agreements just to buy tickets !End of tailgating!!

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      facts not rumors, documentation not gossip

  • @joemckim1183
    @joemckim1183 Год назад

    It would be pointless to put a dome on a stadium in Buffalo expecting to get a Super Bowl because of it. They're never going to host a SB in Buffalo when it takes place in early February. Its hard to justify hosting a huge worldwide event in a city that would probably be in the middle of a snow storm at the time.

  • @troygaskins2082
    @troygaskins2082 Год назад +1

    Bills will WIN the Superbowl this year

  • @robertmiller2104
    @robertmiller2104 Год назад

    they would save money on snow removal if enclosed or retractable roof. But state footing entire bill insane most stadiums mix of private and public funds. It doesn't benefit anyone in rest of state beside in that area. Why has been uproar

  • @MrFreemajj
    @MrFreemajj Год назад

    Downtown stadium was destroyed by poor leadership across the board. The private proposal was destroyed by this high level ignorance.

  • @TracksideViews
    @TracksideViews 2 года назад +2

    I love stadium videos

  • @bufnyfan1
    @bufnyfan1 Год назад

    Russ Brandon was fired unceremoniously from the organization for having inappropriate relations with female staff who worked for Pegula Sports and Entertainment. Jeff Littman was a "Yes" man left over from the Ralph Wilson era. Litman got into a heated argument with Bills one-time GM Bill Polian which led to Polian's firing by Wilson in 1993. It was from that point on the Bills descended into mediocrity on the field including missing the NFL playoffs for 17 straight years. It was interesting that Littman left as soon as the Pegulas bought the team. It was likely because they wanted to purge the organization of every last vestige of Wilson's era.

  • @hopeless5151
    @hopeless5151 Год назад +2

    We need a place to break table's and drink that's bills football

  • @MrAvfc14
    @MrAvfc14 2 года назад +1

    It would have never been built in Buffalo, just look how the politicans screwed up Bass Pro being at Canalside. Too much greed and they pulled their store. Carbelas was the same, they put their store in the suburbs.

  • @atlantis_risingTV
    @atlantis_risingTV Год назад

    The biggest thing that prevented them from the downtown location was the necessary displacement of the chunk of population that resides in the area they were looking to build. I’m sure cost played a factor but they couldn’t justify the housing and businesses that would have been torn down to make way for the stadium and necessary parking.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      not only the demolition of said places but the cost and legal cost would be in the several hundreds of millions of dollars - who would pay for those cost?

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      How true, How true, How true - you are a THINKER.

  • @gggggggg3542
    @gggggggg3542 Год назад

    Now, please tell me it'll be open air............ I dislike domes simply for the principal effect the weather can play in a game, I mean who in their right mind wants to visit upstate in January for a playoff game (apart from polar bears and penguins).

  • @COLE_PRODUCTIONS
    @COLE_PRODUCTIONS Год назад

    Why would you spend a billion dollars on a stadium that has no roof wont host a Super Bowl and would eventually rank last in capacity?

  • @ricardoescobar7713
    @ricardoescobar7713 2 года назад +4

    After watching this video I am convinced the Bills are going to leave.

    • @steveoshei1819
      @steveoshei1819 2 года назад

      How could you possibly get to that conclusion?The stadium deal comes with a guarantee of them staying for decades!Smh

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      The Buffalo Bills have signed an agreement with the State of New York, the County of Erie, the NFL and the Bills have all signed a 30 year agreement. - Nothing in that video says the Bills are going to leave - you have had a little more than enough drink for one day/night.

  • @williamotto7746
    @williamotto7746 2 года назад +2

    So exciting!

    • @joedimaggio3687
      @joedimaggio3687 2 года назад

      Who's going to pay for this?

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      @@joedimaggio3687 I assume you are writing about the new stadium - the breakdown is this - the State of New York, the County of Erie, The Pegula's and the NFL will pay the estimated 1.4-billion-dollar cost. I know you will complain about using state taxpayer dollars for the Bills stadium, but I'll bet you don't remember the state financed the New York Jets/New York Giants stadium and that stadium isn't even in New York State - it is in New Jersey - did you complain about that deal - I'll bet you didn't even know anything about your New York state tax dollars going to build a stadium for two football teams bearing the name New York but don't play in New York again - they play in the state of New Jersey.

    • @joedimaggio3687
      @joedimaggio3687 Год назад

      @@rhh3582 yes I did complain about it. Building stadiums with tax payers money is a total waste. The New York Islanders just built an arena with 100% of their own money. The Islanders even covered 75% of the cost for the new Elmont long island rail road station that is near the arena.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      @@joedimaggio3687 and Dear Joe - who did they get that money from - name sources and if not mistaken aren't the Islanders a hockey team and most hockey facilities seat at most 20-25,000 people - the cost difference is enormous and I know the cost of the Islanders games - they ain't cheap. And something you have to know - the comments I know almost nothing about the Islanders except they are a hockey team about the Islanders and the 100% were not written by this person - someone is using my id and I have reported them to You Tube.I know nothing about the Islanders except that they are a hockey team.

    • @joedimaggio3687
      @joedimaggio3687 Год назад

      @@rhh3582 how are they going to make money with this stadium? How many days in the year will this new building actually be used?

  • @MacMyKitty
    @MacMyKitty Год назад +1

    As a Niners fan, I alwys liked the Bills, but will miss the snow games.

    • @kurtpunchesthings2411
      @kurtpunchesthings2411 Год назад

      as a Jets fan you made a massive mistake tearing down CandleStick Park

    • @MacMyKitty
      @MacMyKitty Год назад

      @@kurtpunchesthings2411 Yea, the fucking city was on our nuts

    • @tesla3695
      @tesla3695 Год назад +1

      they are not making a dome. snow games will continue.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      why will you miss the snow - the stadium is an open-air stadium - snow will certainly fall within the confines of the new stadium - in fact it was design just for that open air wseather.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      there will be snow games - the new stadium is an open-air stadium - the entire field is open to the elements, snow, rain hail, sleet, sun, whatever - and I know those who attend the games will have a better view of the field than they do at the current stadium - the new stadium has what is known as stacked seating. I myself don't know what that means but those who do say it is good for those attending the games.

  • @anthonyfarley796
    @anthonyfarley796 Год назад

    It's not in the middle of nowhere orchard park is only a 20 min drive if that to Buffalo. There is no place or space for the stadium in downtown Buffalo. There isn't enough space for parking either. It's hard enough for a Sabres game or Bandits game to find good parking ever since they made canal side it just seems harder to find parking. You put an nfl stadium in there you will have tons of traffic delays. There is no room to really add a train and not enough staff for people to just ride buses. Orchard park is the perfect spot.

    • @tesla3695
      @tesla3695 Год назад

      Youre right, plus OP is still Buffalo to ppl from here. It may be a 15 min drive outside of the city limits but if you were to ask anyone in the surrounding suburbs where they are from, they will say Buffalo. Buffalo is not just the city limits, at least not to ppl that live in WNY.

  • @devilzdandruff9199
    @devilzdandruff9199 Год назад +1

    A downtown stadium??? WTF?!?

  • @Nuklier_xn
    @Nuklier_xn Год назад +1

    Hey labreece the titans announced that they will do a new stadium thats a good video idea

  • @Brando_1212
    @Brando_1212 Год назад +1

    A downtown stadium would kill the tailgating

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      correct - no open flames and no public open container drinking

  • @MrArtist7777
    @MrArtist7777 Год назад +1

    This is GREAT news!! Hope the Jets rename to: New Jersey Jets, and the Chargers go back to San Diego.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      I don't know that they can change their team name - the stadium they play in was built and paid for by the taxpayers of New York State so there might be legal restraints against name change with the state of New York and the NFL. And who the hell in Western New York cares about the Chargers right now when we are writing about a new stadium for our Buffalo Bills.

  • @caseyortega2914
    @caseyortega2914 Год назад

    Why the hell are so many damn politicians on the Bills board!
    That sounds like it's going to be a damn money pit! Let's keep these greasy politicians the hell out of football all together.

  • @mikeysironrage8103
    @mikeysironrage8103 Год назад +1

    I think the bills stadium is nice

  • @jonnysnipes3123
    @jonnysnipes3123 Год назад

    Means they better have at least one ring before they play in that new stadium

  • @dsr6101
    @dsr6101 4 месяца назад

    You have no idea how much the Bills matter to western New York.

  • @McCarthyPark
    @McCarthyPark 2 года назад +2

    1st - TY for the video. Kim Pegula has way more to do with the Day to Day business of the Team. She is 52yrs old. They have adult children. How which one is Jessica Pegula a pro tennis player & WTA ranked 11th in the world at one point.
    2nd - Pegula's have already done a lot for the city of Buffalo NY. A hotel & 2 ice arenas at least.
    3rd - Orchard Park NY is NOT out of the way. It too is close to Interstates & with easy access.
    4th - NFL is Not the only league that might be playing there. I hope they build for soccer, HS, NCAA or Pro. Buffalo hosts1st round March Madness all the time.

    • @MarloSoBalJr
      @MarloSoBalJr 2 года назад

      Then they might as well build a dome

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      Thank you for the Pegula information - - If I had written those words they would have been ignored now that a different party has entered the picture maybe people will realize how lucky Buffalo is to have the Pegula family in our midst.

  • @davyjonesvideos
    @davyjonesvideos Год назад

    I love football but downtown stadiums in any city is an eye sore. Especially at a waterfront

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      thank you for agreeing with me.

  • @johnharris6655
    @johnharris6655 Год назад +2

    Sacramento once had Arco Arena for the NBA Kings in the Suburbs of Natomas. Easy to get to, lots of parking and in a reasonably safe area. In 2106 they moved Downtown to the Golden One Center. No parking, impossible to get to and the K Street mall has a serious problem with crime.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      No more talk about California - We are in Western New York and we are proud of our Buffalo Bills - keep on topic please.

    • @johnharris6655
      @johnharris6655 Год назад +2

      @@rhh3582 It is on topic, it can show what can happen when you move from a stadium in the Suburbs to one down town.

  • @bettyschnauber8238
    @bettyschnauber8238 Год назад

    With that many corrupt politicians what could go wrong. Hello to the Toronto Bils

  • @BarryGGould
    @BarryGGould Год назад

    do what most teams do. build the new stadium in the parking lot of the existing one then tear down the existing one to make it the parking lot

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      It doesn't work that way - there is a specific area in play - the new stadium will be built and hopefully finished for the start of the 2026 season and while games are being played in the new stadium the old stadium will be demolished and turned into a large parking area. Done, final, no change

  • @justinrogers1807
    @justinrogers1807 Год назад +3

    I kinda think it should be on a rotation for the super bowl once every 32 years ... small markets should be allowed to get the benefits from the biggest game of the year

    • @brandynhenry7107
      @brandynhenry7107 Год назад

      They basically share almost everything equally and benefit wildly from it I don't see how this should be any different. The super bowl is on such a level it transcends where it's located at anyway, it doesn't need to be held in LA or Miami to be an attraction

    • @moonknightj5797
      @moonknightj5797 Год назад +1

      you guys can’t cling to small market values and expect to be rewarded with mountains of riches. this country and the nfl are a business. not charity. Support more forward thinking policies and people might actually want to live in buffalo lol

    • @kurtpunchesthings2411
      @kurtpunchesthings2411 Год назад

      they can't because of the risk of severe weather i mean the last time Metlife stadium hosted the big game they just about avoided a massive storm that landed not even 6 hours after the superbowl ended so from that point on it's gonna be Southern Stadiums and dome stadiums

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      No way the NFL will ever allow that to happen - at least for the next 20+ years. The word is MONEY - $1500 for a seat imagine what a seat near field level costs in a dome. To me paying this kind of money to see a game they could see better on tv at home is crazy and the people who pay that much are crazier. And don't forget all the out of stadium activities the NFL charges for - The NFL makes billions off the super Bowl - no way is the NFL going to give that up to a smaller market.

  • @temp55
    @temp55 Год назад +2

    The stadium should go to Niagara falls NY. By the casino. It would be a money location with the falls in the background.

  • @martyf5714
    @martyf5714 Год назад

    Spend another 100 million or whatever it takes to put a retractable roof on it......makes absolutely no sense to build another open air stadium and have to move another game to Detroit in the future?

  • @allthingshiphop1151
    @allthingshiphop1151 Год назад

    come to austin texas, please

  • @zyxwut321
    @zyxwut321 Год назад

    No, a downtown football stadium is a white elephant. It's used 10-15 times a year and empty otherwise, taking up space and not adding value.

  • @noone-qg1od
    @noone-qg1od 2 года назад +6

    Tax payers money.

  • @MrRedpaul84
    @MrRedpaul84 Год назад

    What a mistake to not build it in downtown.

  • @corp4life342
    @corp4life342 2 года назад +3

    Research how much tax payer $ the Yankees & Mets got !! But because this isn't being spent downstate, people are upset. It's about damn time my tax $ is being spent in my own community!! Here's an idea- start charging those 2 New Jersey football teams for using "New York" in their names in past & future years. That'll cover what the Bills stadium cost

    • @tesla3695
      @tesla3695 Год назад

      NYC = NY's turd. Pinch it off. It's a shithole and a tiny fraction of the state's landmass.

  • @mosinc7388
    @mosinc7388 Год назад

    Tampa Bay is a top 15 market?

  • @davidcalci974
    @davidcalci974 Год назад

    I would go with a dome or move to Austin Texas.

  • @Gil5876
    @Gil5876 Год назад

    How about a dome that opens and closes? You could have things like the NCAA final four games and other events.

    • @kurtpunchesthings2411
      @kurtpunchesthings2411 Год назад +1

      i mean to be honest if your gonna spent over a billion dollars building a Stadium you really may as well pay the extra for a retractable roof hell keep it open most of the time but just whenever it's a bit too much weather close it

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      Do you have 35 billion dollars - the word is THINK.

    • @rhh3582
      @rhh3582 Год назад

      @@kurtpunchesthings2411 The last dome that was built and it doesn't open or close it is stationary and is open to the elements at all sides and ends costs 6 billion dollars located in LA. I watched one of their games and the commentators said it was hot as hell in that facility even with the covering dome. I seem to remember one of those moveable domes being closed - or it was suppose to close but it got stuck mid function - is that what you think is good and wanted - I say to you one word THINK.