Are Ryobi Clone Battery's Worth it
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Do you want to see if a $33.00 clone Ryobi battery is worth buying if so watch this video and i will tell you want i think.
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PRICES:$67.00 for 2 5,0AH
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Back when I was on the tools I switched to Chinese batteries. You can buy them 3-1 over genuine. I can have 6 batteries that in practice work as well as the original(maybe a touch less power overall) and lasted as long. But having 6 batteries instead of 2 meant I never ran out of power or batteries. Can also swap batteries less between tools.
In all these years I've never had a single battery failure within at least a few years of purchase(genuine OR chinese)
Out of 8 Vanon aftermarket batteries I have bought (6ah), 2 have died and one is working on it. All my factory Ryobi batteries that came with the tools are dead as disco. The interesting thing is that the oldest four Vanon were bought at the same time as the tools, approx 6 years ago. Three of those are still alive and kicking. Of the four I bought two years ago, one is dead and another is about to die. I don't pamper them either, hot cars, cold buildings, they either work or they die, and I use them in everything from my brushless sawzall, circ saw, nailer, etc. Are they rated accurately? The answer is no, but neither are Ryobi factory batteries, UNLESS a specific optimized measuring technique is used. It is like the 20v Max hypes for battery packs and tools. It is still an 18v battery, but after charging it will read 20v for a couple of seconds before dropping to the nominal 18v. The 6ah batteries are probably 4ah, would be my guess, with 2000-2500mah high current batteries used to make two sets of 18v in parallel, which doubles the current. The maximum ah rating you could possibly pack into the same size case is 7ah (using extremely rare and expensive 3500mah batteries). Since we aren't paying a couple hundred per battery, neither the aftermarket nor ryobi are using these, lol.
From what I've seen, the fakes tend to lie about their Ah rating by about 1Ah. For instance I tested a set of (claimed) 5Ah Biswaye batteries and they're actually 4Ah. I've seen quite a few reports of the same in reviews of other brands as well.
Granted, for the price they're well worth it. Performance wise, they sit right between my P108s and my P197s - which makes them good 4Ah batteries. It's just important to know what you're buying. I would highly doubt that the 9Ah batteries floating around are more than 6-7Ah in reality.
Please don’t call these fake. A fake is something that does not work at all such as lithium cells filled with sand. After-market or off brand would be better descriptions.
@@TomCee53 That was insensitive of me. I really should have taken into account the way the batteries might feel about being judged so harshly. Thank you for setting me straight.
@@TheCharleseye I just think the term fake has become overused. These are perfectly good off-brand batteries. The only think at all wrong is that they are probably overestimating the mAH rating. The fact that they use cheaper components with less reliability just makes them less valuable, which the price reflects. It’s more a matter of “you get what you pay for”.
@@TomCee53 What an incredibly interesting story...
@@TomCee53 there fakes would you buy a pair of fake nike trainers & call them aftermarket no you call them fake
Buen tema , gracias x compartir! Saludos cordiales.
I've had for of my 6 batteries fail. A p197, p108 and two p107. The battery packs are all mostly charged (around) but am getting little to nothing at the contacts. I've tried reseting them but it did nothing.
That’s a shame sorry to here that this is a really old video I would not recommend them now
can you get ryobi clone skins ? my impact died just after warranty....
I have found that fake batteries are not so good on first few charges, but improve with more charges, its to do with the battery balancing or lack of. mine are used in brushless angle grinder but i use an older 8 battery charger that you leave switched on all the time and it trickle charge and tops up batteries . also a very important thing is temperature of batteries when charging. No good charging a cold battery i always allow them to get to room temp. before charging.. so in winter keep charger in a heated place mines in house I have had this kit since lithium were started by ryobi and have only had one battery go bad. thats got be 15 years or so not sure
That’s awesome still haven’t lost a battery after 8 years so I agree
@@RYOBIKING i saw a video of knock off battery exploding, has yours ever done this?
@@jetn4677 I still have mine and they are fine but I would just buy the real ones to be sure
@@RYOBIKING thanks i dont have enough funds to buy geuine yet but ill get there, cheaper option is a god send. just seeing that video where the guy said his 1 yr old one blew up while charging freaked me out, might just charge outside to be careful
Also how can you tell by looking at the plastic if it is inferior? Maybe it is a lousy casting or injection mold.
Duane Weldon I used a razor knife to see if it was glass fiber reinforced and it is not it is like a ABS plastic as apostles to the slight glass fiber in the ryobi
It looks, feels and sounds different when tapped.
I've had plenty of genuine Ryobi batteries fail on me. I have 3 of the 4Ah right now that have a full charge but fail after 30 seconds of use.
If they are some what new battery’s you can file the item number on there website and they might get you a new one
@@RYOBIKING these are pretty old plus I've opened them to check the cells. All the cells are good so likely a BMS problem.
@@DanielGarciaAu that’s crazy
I bought some knock offs from ebay and 6 months later 3 out of the 4 were dead .The seller ignored me and had another business name .so his 3 year warranty was gone.So I contacted eBay and got all my money back .it's ryobi batteries only .Just watch home depot on line and you will get battery deals.I just ordered online for$79.00 ,2- 4amh batteries and charger with free delivery. Same online area showed 1-4 amh battery for $99.00 . You have to look closely
Not to be picky, but current prices online & in store are $79 for two 4Ah standard and $99 for one 4Ah High Performance.
Question is how many times can the off brand be charged compared to brand battery.
I do not have an exact number but I am still charging them and using them to this day. I use them regularly so I would say they have a good amount of use
My vanon lasted about 1 year now it only holds 1/2 charge. And won't run higher power tools without cutting out. My original Ryobi battery is 5 years old and still going strong.
You didn't test run time or current output. I just bought two supposed 6amp output batteries and would like a comparison to a Ryobi for run time and current output. How could my supposed 6amp output be the same size as my Ryobi 4 amp output is my question.
They lie about the ratings on the battery’s most likely the 6ah fake is more like a 4ah thanks for asking
I just tested all my Ryobi tool batteries for capacity. I used a load tester ( amzn.to/2SOyXcg ) running at 10A/12V regulated load ( amzn.to/2SGAoei ).
Ryobi 9Ah/162Wh P194 got 133Wh
Vanon 6Ah / 108Wh got ONLY 58 Wh
Ryobi 4Ah/74 Wh P108 got 55Wh
Ryobi 3Ah/54 Wh P191 got 42Wh
Ryobi 1.5Ah/28 Wh P107 got 19Wh
Ryobi ?Ah/24 Wh P102 got 13Wh
Load testers vary in how they load the batteries. It’s possible that Ryobi has optimized their load test, as might be expected.
do you use the ryobi charger. can you use ryboi charger to charge battery with larger amperage
I charge all of my fake battery’s with Ryobi chargers
As best I can tell, Battery chargers monitor voltages to determine charge time. More capacity would just mean longer charge times.
The only issue I’ve seen is trying to charge NiMh batteries in a charger designed for lithium.
Do the knockoffs have a low voltage cutoff ?
I believe so
Very likely they use a standard BMS chip which has low cutoff. It’s possible they bypassed that function to save a transistor, but at what they pay, it’s probably there.
Thinking of getting some for fan and radio etc.
sherlockbonez that’s what I use mine for
Thanks for that
No problem Steve
Will it last longer than the non & brand Roy I 2.0 amp ones?
Angel Galvan yes
no
A video with facts would be more helpful than this one with only opinions.
I still appreciate the videos though. Thanks.
God damn, kill the music at the. It's so unnecessary lol.
I bought a clone 6ah and my ryobi charger wouldnt charge it ill spend the extra to oem.... took it apart and charging batteries in a different charger.. batteries are no name.. just a number
alan koza I understood
The Ryobi battery and the generic battery and Ryobi tools are made in China
All power tools are. Milwaukee and Ridgid both are made in china. DeWalt says made in USA with global parts meaning it is made in china but final last step assembly was done in USA.
They are all Chinese batteries ryobi or not.
The cells In them are not. The real ryobi use Samsung cells South Korean. where the “cheap chines” use LG cells thanks for the input!
@@RYOBIKING Lg are better batteries
Tommy Sick to my new understanding from disassembly they have no name cells that are fakes to look like LG I know I didn’t make that clear in the video I apologize
In china, there are factory strictly made stuffs for export, on the hand, there are factory only made stuffs for local.
Your already using cheap tools why not use cheap batteries
Wow and you clicked the video thanks
@@RYOBIKING of course why not I'm looking into using some after market batteries for my work makita
no testing whatsoever. get better
The video is over 3 years old i was still learning
China??? ..were exactly do you think genuine RYOBI stuff is made???
I was referring to the cells in them there are different ones some from China others from Japan, Korea ect
@@RYOBIKING - Then you need need to be more specific, you maligned Chinese stuff rather blandly, clearly not realising that ALL Ryobi stuff (and in fact most Home Depot stuff) is made there.
@@gregtaylor6146 most everything is made there now your right thanks for the constructive criticism
Dewalt and Milwaukee also manufacture in China. The problem with Chinese production is they will build to whatever price/spec the buyer asks for, if it's unbranded it could be anything.
and should it matter where they are made?