Every possible way we know of how the Black Death was spread has been proven wrong do to how distant people were and how it actually has been proven to have not just effected Europe yet people keep claiming it was only in Europe in order to make their bullshit lies about how it was spread proven correct when in reality we do not know how it was spread. The really fucked up fact is Native Americans died of the Black Death as well. Aborigines of Australia died. Japanese died. Asians, Africans, Europeans, South Americans, North Americans, and even a frozen animal in Antarctica was diagnosed with black death. America is the only country that has a real original sample of the original black death plague virus. That sample is sealed in a testing space in a Texas lab. Do not worry of it escaping. There is a material similar to C4 but on super steroids called T6. T6 is too volatile to use in the field but funny fact is it can be mixed with concrete and cement and mixed into a ton of construction materials. To put it bluntly when building the building that stores those viruses they used a lot of T6 and they may have gone a little overboard. Basically if containment is breached containment will be contained and cleansed in fire. So if containment is breach there will be really bright light at least 100 miles to potentially 500 miles in diameter making sure nothing escapes. It will be a mini sun deleting everything around it. You will hear popping sound circling the earth a few times and it explodes in bright light containing the virus by deleting it and everything else leaving behind a giant crater. I was the weird 14 year old kid looking up as much creepy shit as I could. Potatoes can make the deadliest neurotoxin that a closet amount of gas format of it is enough gas to kill around 15 billion to 25 billion people. A mini fridge is enough to wipe out the entire planet of not just humans because this gas effect all life including plants and insects.
With so much disease, death, mistreatment, and atrocities, it's a wonder we have such a romanticized view of the Victorian Era at all. Blue Jay really does an amazing job at informing and entertaining us, and crushing our fantasies at the same time.
He didn't even go into the more lethal factory jobs that kids worked, I remember learning somewhere that loom shuttles in textile factories killed a lot of kids
@@Captaincory1 Stumbled about the Chemical Workers song three days ago, sad but an absolute banger. On the other hand the ammount of inventions which were made is truly staggering. Imagine you would be like my grandma from 1926 but a hundred years earlier. You would witness the invention of steam shipping railway, telegraph X ray asperin, radio, health insurance and so much more. Also when I see Film from the 1890ties to 1910 I am always surprised how little has changed besides the cloth people are wearing but the same Streetcars are still in service (Museum pieces granted) but is still the same stations the same platforms and the same industrial districts people come and move to. Often the factories are still in the same building.
@@cheezbiscuit4140 I don't think Tolkien romanticizes medieval peasant life. The Hobbits are more akin to the rural people of his day (late 19th-early 20th century), or at least his idealized representation of them, in contrast to the exploited and "deformed" industrial proletariat that the Orcs parallel. He was mourning both his displacement from the country life of his childhood and the disappearance of rural life caused by the Industrial Revolution. Though since we all know Tolkien hated allegories, these parallels aren't the entire reason behind the creation of these groups.
Just to clarify it wasn't open sewage that was leaking into the Broadstreet Pump it was a Cess pit for one of the houses on the street that had a crack that was leaking into the pump water. Importantly this cesspit contained the nappies of a baby who had contracted and died from Cholora, the patient 0 of the outbreak.
One thing that’s important to mention is that life expectancy of 25 for lower class is dragged down significantly due to the infant mortality rates. If you survived childhood you were likely to live significantly longer than that age.
true true. If you managed to survive to age 5 in 1850, victorian England, the average life expectancy rose to 56 (this average includes the rich aristocrats).
Understanding the conditions of the Victorian era is helpful when trying to understand why so many people would decide to leave everything they have and move to the frontiers of colonies in pursuit of anything that might have the chance of being better. I would take trying to build a farmstead in an inhospitable wilderness over having to sleep over a suspended rope at the cost of most of my earnings any day.
Yeah. There was a lady who liked the taste of the water from the diseased pump. Another case was that a brewery near a contaminated pump was fine but it turned out that the workers drank the bear or had a separate water system so they never touched the cholera infected water
22:09 I dug up an ancient manuscript that said 'If anyone finds this, Mr Terry told me to go back in time and tell them about germs and now they think I'm a witch." I think it's just a coincidence.
Extra History has a mini-series on the Broad Street Pump, if you want something else to reacto to, Terry. They've got a couple of other series on the history of healthcare as well, which are real good.
As to the Egyptian artifacts in England topic. I've been to both the British Museum in Bloomsbury, as well as the Egyptian Museum in Cairo. There is a sharp contrast in these two museums. The British museum has kept all the artifacts pristine. There are held in strict temperature and environmental controls. Whoever handled, or handles those artifacts does it with the upmost care. It is not the case with the Egyptian museum. Going into the Egyptian museum is like going back to the Victorian Era. At least it was when I was there in the 90s and early 2000s. You have to remember when the King Tut artifacts were brought out of the tomb they were in imaculate condition. They look like they were just made yesterday. And the one iconic artifact that you envision in your mind when you think of the words King Tut has been damaged due to improper handling and lack of proper temperature control. The whole museum in Cairo should have a complete overhaul. It should be brought up to at least the 20th century. The art lover in me that loves to go to museums says keep the stuff in the British museum. The humanitarian in me says first bring the museum up to standards, as well as hire curators that can handle these items properly, then bring them back to Cairo. This is not a condemnation to the Egyptians themselves. But the powers that be who just don't want to spend the money to invest in a world class modern museum. Now I've said that, but I don't know if the Egyptian museum has gone through a modern transformation since I've been there. The last time I was there was shortly after 9/11. Everywhere we went people would say the same thing. We love Americans, we just don't like your foreign policy. The other way to look at it would be just give all that stuff back to the Egyptians it's theirs and if they want them to sit and degrade that's their business. I've been to Egypt a few times. I loved visiting there. I love the people I met and the experiences. It's a country of high contrasts. The ultra modern right next to the ancient. It's fascinating. I hope I get a chance to go back there again someday. Especially Alexandria. Such beautiful crystal blue waters.
The corset thing is quite arguable tho. There are RUclipsrs who do historic costumes reconstruction and they consistently say that corsets are not as restricting as people think if worn properly, and those Organ-deformation pictures you often can see came from not exactly credible sources but due to how bizarre it looks git public attention.
@@ЯАга-я4л RUclipsrs wear there historic costumes for a few hours to a day at most, in the modern world of medicine, health care, and environmental conditions. Women of the Victorian Era wore them every day in most cases, with low quality medical treatment and poor knowledge of proper health conditions in a debilitating and dangerous environment. It's more then just what it can do to a body. And I've seen what a corset can do worn right under slightly bad conditions personally by one of those historical reenactors. Collapsing due to heat, trouble breathing, and the following broken ribs that came from people getting her out of it quickly so she could breathe. And to what? Artificially make their waist look skinnier.....well it's a good thing we have better understanding of health and nutrition and don't need those for that purpose anymore then, huh?
@@weeboftheleft5113 we do different things now. High heels, pointy-end shoes, steroids for bodybuilding, botox, cosmetic surgery, all kinds of things. Both men and women, even back in the day men wore corsets too.
@@ЯАга-я4л Yes, that's the point I'm making to you. Saying 'they're safe, youtubers have worn them' isn't accurate, cause WE live different today vs how they did then. We have BETTER health conditions and education. And we KNOW better then to wear them all the time.....thanks for repeating what I had already said in a more roundabout fashion though.
I know there's also a Map Men episode on John Snow and how he marked all the cholera cases on a map. That's how I became familiar about John Snow's fight with cholera.
My great-grandfather was acrobat working for Barnum and Bailey's circus. He went on a tour from America to the UK with them in about 1890 and decided to stay in Britain.
Dowton Abbey is excellent if you like watching period dramas. It does have easter eggs for people that like history, it also teachers people about the period without them knowing it. I've watched a few of them, mainly the Xmas ones because it was almost impossible not to. The later episodes were the better ones because of the WW1 element, but its just not a program for me. All the characters are played well, Dame Maggie Smith brings alot of the comedic value to the program.
@@NeonBeeCat Arguably from 1901 to 1914 is the Edwardian era, but he passed away in 1910. The program starts in 1912 with King George the 5th on the throne and throughout, also WW1 breaks out in series 1. There isn't really an era until the name change to Windsor, for obvious reasons (the family name).
Corsets themselves are harmless (unless they’re made with Parisian/Scheele’s Green pigment (see Deadly Wallpaper). “Tight Lacing” was a very unhealthy as well as extremely rare practice. Some women wore their corsets too long, and like scoliosis patients who wear their back braces too long, their abdominal muscles atrophied. A RUclipsr named Bernadette Banner has great historical fashion videos including one that talks about corsets and her scoliosis and tight lacing. She debunks tons of myths, too
Downton Abbey is just a historical soap opera. As a person who doesn’t like soaps but loves history, I’d recommend it. I’ve watched it all the way through
Working class life expectancy being so low didn't mean people were dying at 25. It means that the average of all people's age at death was around 25. This includes all infant deaths. If you made it out of childhood and into adulthood then chances were that you'd live to be at least somewhat elderly. Of course that doesn't mean that it was as good as things are today still post childhood. It's just like how a lot of people think that in the Middle Ages hardly anyone lived to 40. Most did live at least that long if they managed to become an adult.
To clarify, _every_ modern royal family (including the deposed ones) in Europe has some familial connection or tie back to Victoria. Belgium and Spain in particular, but also the present pretenders of the Hohenzollerns and the Romanovs.
Regarding “Scheele’s Green” wallpaper, the arsenic-derived pigment was used for much more. It’s also known as “Paris Green,” and one quick RUclips search will take you to a great video about “Parisian Green Deadly Fashion” will serve you a nice rabbit hole to sink into when you’re bored. It’s wild that people wore it. It’s one of my favorite colors, and I look great wearing it, but it’s a replica pigment. Nowhere on clothing (or upholstery, which is usually where I see the correct hue of green) is there a giant skull with “POISON” written with it. 13:32
Regarding if you would like Downton Abbey, honestly Mr. Terry, I think you would. I kind of think that you and my dad would be friends, and since my dad enjoys that series a lot, I think you would like it too! He loves history, particularly British history (he can name the line of British kings from King Charles III to *at least* William the Conqueror, and that's as an American lol and he has studied various British wars in-depth), and so I'd like to think he'd recommend this TV series to you!
You don't think this has something to do with genes? Like I've never heard a black person interested in science, art, history, writing, etc. Maybe I'm wrong but genetics and IQ are real. What do you think?
14:00 Its a big shame the whole corset thing has such a bad reputation about shifting organs and permanentely changing your body. I would recommend watching the video by Bernadette Banner on the subject.
I think you would like Downton Abbey. It covers some interesting changes in society including women becoming liberated, a lower class chauffeur marrying a daughter of the gentry family, the affect a Titanic death had on the family relating to the entailment of the estate, and the part of WWI is very good. I am usually very critical of period dramas (I hated the Titanic movie because of it), but history is very well presented in this series.
The John Snow one also had a building next door with zero Cholera cases, upon examination he realised they had a separate ground pump too, which bolstered his theory even more; the only group not getting sick in that area are people using a different pump.
If I were transported back to Victorian England and was part of the upper crust I would definitely start a railway. There was amazing money in the railways back then, like literal-minded breaking levels of money especially if you survived long enough to see the grouping act
Lucky for you, Mr. Terry, the Penny Farthing (big wheel bike) is apparantly making a comeback. With some modern models already made! I saw something about that very reasently.
Terry, Imagine Dragons made Enemy. If you will decide to not like the band, fair enough. But Enemy and Demons are genuine highlights of that band worth giving a listen to
Downton Abbey is an overall great show, though I have to warn you it's basically 50/50 on the historical accuracy front. It does a great job showing the many social changes of the early 20th century, though, so you may enjoy it for that reason alone.
@Mr.TerryHistory that sovereign citizen video from a few days ago reminded me a lot of the "reichsbürger"-movement in germany (literally "reich-citizens"), who think that the german government is illegitimat and the german empire still technically exists. There have been fatal incidents with police and some groups even made (incompetent) Plans for abducting politicians or overthrowing the governement in the last few years. Maybe you could make a video comparing those groups? I would love to hear your judgement
Regarding the Egyptian items in Britain and elsewhere, this can be looked at differently than many other cultural trophies taken by the British Empire. First off, the Egyptian items were the result of grave robbing, they didn't just take something from plain sight (like the Elgin marbles) or items that saw use by their respective cultures. If someone digs up graves today it's a crime, but not an international incident, not even if great-grandma was buried with her 5ct diamond ring. Second, the Egyptians had been looting the tombs for centuries and most of those items were melted down for the gold. The Brits took items from hard-to-find tombs and kept them intact. They add to British social wealth, but it's not like Britain funneled Egyptian gold currency out of the country. The value of these items is greater than their component parts. So you can make a decent argument that these items are more a part of modern British identity than Egyptian identity. The Brits have loved having these items for over 150 years, but to the Egyptians these objects were buried relics from a era before living memory. Not saying some degree of apology wouldn't be a good idea, but I don't think repatriation of the items will ever happen. These items are more British than they are Egyptian at this point.
Even life as an aristocrat back then would be displeasing to a good majority of people today. You still had to walk through the streets, smell the Thames, and money didn't really buy actually better healthcare yet.
I always found it odd that all of Queen Victoria’s children survived to adulthood. Considering the infant mortality rate at the time. The photo of child chimney sweep was taken in 1980. Apparently, he was dressed for a fancy dress competition celebrating the centennial for the East Street Market. You would hate Downton Abbey. They make working in service seem glamorous. It wasn’t, the historical inaccuracies are just plain ridiculous. It’s essentially a historical soap opera. Historically domestic staff would have been as young as thirteen at the time. Up from the Victorian era where children as young as ten were working in service. Many of whom were taken from work houses and expected to work to pay off their parents debts. The hours were long, the pay was exploitive and the work was physically demanding.
The reason for not hiring 13 year old actors is they are 13, lol. 😂 At the end of the day acting is a job requiring long hours on set. Even with child labor laws kids on set are often overworked by sneaky work arounds. I don’t think making kids work is a good way to call out ‘look how horrible it is that these kids are working!’ Downtown Abbey is historical fiction…. Heavy on the fiction. If you know that and watch it for the drama, it’s fine.
@@TheDawnofVanlife They have episodes where the domestic staff play dress up and wear ball gowns while walking down the main flight of stairs. In reality domestic staff would have been fired for that. There is a reason why they had their own staircases. You would never have been able to speak to the family the way they do in Downton Abbey. Shows like upstairs downstairs have used adult actors to portray the average age of domestic servants better than Downton Abbey does. In a sense because people don’t study history, they get away with portraying the family as kind to their staff in a way that class structures absolutely wouldn’t have allowed for. There is zero chance that a valet accused of murder would have been allowed to stay on in country manor. It’s more of a soap opera than anything else. Julian Fellows uses it to prop up a version of history that is pure fantasy. I wouldn’t even call it historical fiction because it is sorely lacking in factual history. Funny that shows like game of thrones hired teenagers yet you think it would be impossible for a show like Downton Abbey to do so.
You'd love downtown abbey. It's a great show showing the change of the UK, racial in equality, and how the local and world politics effect a family of aristocrats who are slowly loosing their influence.
Jay Foreman's Map Men have a youtube video that goes more into depth on the John Snow investigation. Apparently the old woman who lived far from the infected area said she preferred the water from her daughter's well because "it tasted sweeter". And apparently it was a cracked sewage pipe that had leaked into the water supply.
Carl Benz wasn’t to sure of his new invention. In response his wife Bertha stole his car drove 105km (65 miles) to her moms house inventing the first break pads while in route all while showing off her hubbies new creation gaining world wide attention.
John snow already knew it was the water from the previous outbreak he just couldn't prove it before the outbreak ended mostly because they thought that was stupid
@13:30 I had to look up the exploding pool balls and yep it's legit: _Celluloid and its predecessors were all made with nitrocellulose, also known as pyroxylin, flash paper, and gun cotton. As you might guess from that string of names, these plastics were highly flammable, and when used in billiard balls, they had some, well, interesting results. Some of Hyatt’s billiard ball experiments involved forming balls and then coating them with collodion, a solution of pyroxylin in ether and alcohol. He recalled the side effect in 1914: In order to secure strength and beauty, only coloring pigments were added, and in the least quantity; consequently a lighted cigar applied would at once result in a serious flame, and occasionally the violent contact of the balls would produce a mild explosion like a percussion guncap. We had a letter from a billiard saloon proprietor in Colorado, mentioning this face and saying he did not care so much about it, but that instantly every man in the room pulled his gun._
I get your point, but we do more in a home…or hotel room even, then sleep. It’s not quite comparable. Heck, if you want you can go to a public park bench and take a nap for free.
22:28 Imagine Dragons aren't as bad as some people like to pretend, but they're not particularly great either. They make the sort of music you'd hear if you turn on the radio on a long car trip and tune it to a random, generic station, where it's kind of just white noise, neither pleasant nor offensive. Some of their songs are almost passable.
“Think Britain will give back the stuff they took from Egypt?” Reminds me of Killmonger in Black Panther when he’s looking at the African exhibit and the lady says the items are not for sale, and he says back how do you think your donors got these items, do you think they paid a fair price or just took them from the people.
On the imagine dragons bit if I can't decide whether or not I like a thing I take the oldest method, try when drunk, then again when sober, you'll soon decide.
I think the stuff might go back o Egypt . I think most items the British took from other counties should with some exceptions. In from they either don’t have the funds to have the proper facilities and protection for the items and until then they should wait or the countries could be unstable and dangerous so the safety of the item is at risk. And lastly there’s situations like the Koh I Noor Diamond in which multiple countries have a claim to it and it’s history has been that it has been taken over and over again by strength making the British claim no less than any of the others in India and Pakistan who obtained the Diamond through conquest . And that returning it to any one country would just cause more issues with surrounding countries
Here's something sad on the info about mortality rate. Women, or i should say young girls, started having kids around the age of 16 because there was a high mortality rate from giving birth. Wanna know something sad? It's not any better now. The damage from birthing isn't much better as while the place to give birth is usually cleaner, the risks are still there
Black adder way before downtown Abby. Downtown Abby is more sitcom/soap from what I've seen. Vs black adder British comedy and some historical events or something in every episode.
I haven't watched Downton Abbey but I do know they did a hell of a lot of research to get as accurate as possible with the history from the Edwardian period upto the mid 1920s and how the lives of the landed gentry changed over that period so I reckon it would be something you might be interested in. Also I would loive in Victorian times......not London mind but either Plymouth or Grimsby and be working on the railways :3 companies that surprisingly looked after their employees giving them jobs for life lol
he was soo married to the "Three Classes" theory that pervades the modern and postmodern eras and he still left out the middle one. back then there where many classes, there was some mobility but it generally took generations. Lower Class, unskilled labour, you died young from working around 100-120 hours a week, next to no prospects for advancement. Working Class, (split in to lower and upper), Semi Skilled (for lower) or Skilled (for upper) Labour, you had a steady job working 60-80 hours a week and could afford somewhere to sleep, you live longer than the lower class and have some upward mobility for your kids. Trades Class, you work in a Shop or are "In Service", or own a small shop of your own or perhaps you own a small river barge or a Handsome (Cab) or perhaps you are a State School Teacher, a chance for you to move up in the Trades Class more so for your kids or for them to move over to the Crafts Class. Craftsman Class, what we today call a "Trade", the Quality of your work and the Prestige of your goods governs your wealth and standing. the Middle Class, Doctors, Lawyers, (Public and Private) Teachers, University Professors, Bankers, Merchants/Wealthy Tradesmen, Local Politicians, Civil Servants ect. a good chance to move up within the class and even in to the Upper Class but it's more likely your kids will. your family may trace itself to the Gentry or Nobility if some Landed & Titled relative dies you may be able to inherent and jump class. the Upper Class, they are Senior Government Types and Rich middle class types, you just lack lands and Titles Gentry and Nobility, you or one of your close relatives has a Title, owns Land and likely has a ton of money but there is a even chance that money is tied up in investments or has to be sunk strait back in the property to maintain it. unless your Trade or Craft has you working with hazardous goods once you hit the middle of the Trades or Craftsman classes provided you reached adulthood your life expectancy is almost as good as in the modern US, but after about 50 your quality of life takes a sharp nose dive and can be fairly retched being effectively invalid by your mid 50's middle class and better the drop off is much slower and your not becoming an invalid till your late 50's or early 60's
Contrary to what Bluejay said, to experience the Edwardian era, you had to have been born in the Victorian era, because the Edwarian era was over so quickly.
20:45 - aren't you pay to sleep now? you most obviously can sleep outdoors outside city for free while it's warm enough, but if you intend to do it otherwise, you should own a household of some kind and pay to purchase it and maintain it. or pay for hotel/hostel/room.
On the Marry Poppins subject: the term "Hottentot" used in the movie was an actual racial slur, which I only found out about as a kid when my grandfather mentioned it. Good times.
Considering that the facing stones of pyramids are part of mosques and palaces now, no, i don't think the British Museum should ever give that stuff back. In fact, more archaeological expeditions to the middle East would be great. DAESH blew up priceless ruins while they were rampaging across the middle east
I understand where the miasma theory came from a lil bit. You ever smell someone else’s fart and feel like you’re gonna die? I can only imagine how much worse it would be in Victorian Londoners’ guts
To be fair the mummy unwrapping stuff wasn't like ten thousand pharaos but more like the mummies of all the higher/middle class people. they literally had droves of those. Aparrently egyptians sometimes even used them as fuel for fire if they didn't have anything else. So it's not as if the egyptians themselves valued them that much. Especially considering most of them were Islamic and actually didn't hold the same beliefs about the afterlife as they did. Which is kind of funny how much they want their stuff back. It definitely doesn't have to do with it bringing a lot of tourist money and is only about a cultural heritage and history.
The life expectancy thing is often misinterpreted to mean you'll die before thirty. Wrong, it's an average. Child mortality is what dragged that average down. Survive to ten and your chance of seeing sixty is very good.
Would you want to live in London in the Victorian Era?
Would you want to die of coal poisoning?
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Every possible way we know of how the Black Death was spread has been proven wrong do to how distant people were and how it actually has been proven to have not just effected Europe yet people keep claiming it was only in Europe in order to make their bullshit lies about how it was spread proven correct when in reality we do not know how it was spread. The really fucked up fact is Native Americans died of the Black Death as well. Aborigines of Australia died. Japanese died. Asians, Africans, Europeans, South Americans, North Americans, and even a frozen animal in Antarctica was diagnosed with black death. America is the only country that has a real original sample of the original black death plague virus. That sample is sealed in a testing space in a Texas lab. Do not worry of it escaping. There is a material similar to C4 but on super steroids called T6. T6 is too volatile to use in the field but funny fact is it can be mixed with concrete and cement and mixed into a ton of construction materials. To put it bluntly when building the building that stores those viruses they used a lot of T6 and they may have gone a little overboard. Basically if containment is breached containment will be contained and cleansed in fire. So if containment is breach there will be really bright light at least 100 miles to potentially 500 miles in diameter making sure nothing escapes. It will be a mini sun deleting everything around it. You will hear popping sound circling the earth a few times and it explodes in bright light containing the virus by deleting it and everything else leaving behind a giant crater. I was the weird 14 year old kid looking up as much creepy shit as I could. Potatoes can make the deadliest neurotoxin that a closet amount of gas format of it is enough gas to kill around 15 billion to 25 billion people. A mini fridge is enough to wipe out the entire planet of not just humans because this gas effect all life including plants and insects.
With so much disease, death, mistreatment, and atrocities, it's a wonder we have such a romanticized view of the Victorian Era at all. Blue Jay really does an amazing job at informing and entertaining us, and crushing our fantasies at the same time.
Puts tolkien's romanticization of rural medieval farm life into perspective, being born at the tail end of the victorian era and all.
He didn't even go into the more lethal factory jobs that kids worked, I remember learning somewhere that loom shuttles in textile factories killed a lot of kids
@@Captaincory1 Stumbled about the Chemical Workers song three days ago, sad but an absolute banger.
On the other hand the ammount of inventions which were made is truly staggering.
Imagine you would be like my grandma from 1926 but a hundred years earlier. You would witness the invention of steam shipping railway, telegraph X ray asperin, radio, health insurance and so much more.
Also when I see Film from the 1890ties to 1910 I am always surprised how little has changed besides the cloth people are wearing but the same Streetcars are still in service (Museum pieces granted) but is still the same stations the same platforms and the same industrial districts people come and move to. Often the factories are still in the same building.
@@cheezbiscuit4140 I don't think Tolkien romanticizes medieval peasant life. The Hobbits are more akin to the rural people of his day (late 19th-early 20th century), or at least his idealized representation of them, in contrast to the exploited and "deformed" industrial proletariat that the Orcs parallel. He was mourning both his displacement from the country life of his childhood and the disappearance of rural life caused by the Industrial Revolution. Though since we all know Tolkien hated allegories, these parallels aren't the entire reason behind the creation of these groups.
Steampunk!
And, of course, so much literature and materials left from the upper class.
Just to clarify it wasn't open sewage that was leaking into the Broadstreet Pump it was a Cess pit for one of the houses on the street that had a crack that was leaking into the pump water. Importantly this cesspit contained the nappies of a baby who had contracted and died from Cholora, the patient 0 of the outbreak.
One thing that’s important to mention is that life expectancy of 25 for lower class is dragged down significantly due to the infant mortality rates. If you survived childhood you were likely to live significantly longer than that age.
true true. If you managed to survive to age 5 in 1850, victorian England, the average life expectancy rose to 56 (this average includes the rich aristocrats).
Understanding the conditions of the Victorian era is helpful when trying to understand why so many people would decide to leave everything they have and move to the frontiers of colonies in pursuit of anything that might have the chance of being better. I would take trying to build a farmstead in an inhospitable wilderness over having to sleep over a suspended rope at the cost of most of my earnings any day.
Yeah. There was a lady who liked the taste of the water from the diseased pump. Another case was that a brewery near a contaminated pump was fine but it turned out that the workers drank the bear or had a separate water system so they never touched the cholera infected water
How do you drink a bear?
@@ferky123 Sorry. I typed this on a phone and am not good with a phone keyboard or autocorrect took over. Trying to type beer
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22:09 I dug up an ancient manuscript that said 'If anyone finds this, Mr Terry told me to go back in time and tell them about germs and now they think I'm a witch."
I think it's just a coincidence.
Extra History has a mini-series on the Broad Street Pump, if you want something else to reacto to, Terry. They've got a couple of other series on the history of healthcare as well, which are real good.
As to the Egyptian artifacts in England topic. I've been to both the British Museum in Bloomsbury, as well as the Egyptian Museum in Cairo. There is a sharp contrast in these two museums.
The British museum has kept all the artifacts pristine. There are held in strict temperature and environmental controls. Whoever handled, or handles those artifacts does it with the upmost care.
It is not the case with the Egyptian museum. Going into the Egyptian museum is like going back to the Victorian Era. At least it was when I was there in the 90s and early 2000s.
You have to remember when the King Tut artifacts were brought out of the tomb they were in imaculate condition. They look like they were just made yesterday. And the one iconic artifact that you envision in your mind when you think of the words King Tut has been damaged due to improper handling and lack of proper temperature control.
The whole museum in Cairo should have a complete overhaul. It should be brought up to at least the 20th century.
The art lover in me that loves to go to museums says keep the stuff in the British museum. The humanitarian in me says first bring the museum up to standards, as well as hire curators that can handle these items properly, then bring them back to Cairo.
This is not a condemnation to the Egyptians themselves. But the powers that be who just don't want to spend the money to invest in a world class modern museum. Now I've said that, but I don't know if the Egyptian museum has gone through a modern transformation since I've been there. The last time I was there was shortly after 9/11. Everywhere we went people would say the same thing. We love Americans, we just don't like your foreign policy.
The other way to look at it would be just give all that stuff back to the Egyptians it's theirs and if they want them to sit and degrade that's their business.
I've been to Egypt a few times. I loved visiting there. I love the people I met and the experiences. It's a country of high contrasts. The ultra modern right next to the ancient. It's fascinating. I hope I get a chance to go back there again someday. Especially Alexandria. Such beautiful crystal blue waters.
The corset thing is quite arguable tho. There are RUclipsrs who do historic costumes reconstruction and they consistently say that corsets are not as restricting as people think if worn properly, and those Organ-deformation pictures you often can see came from not exactly credible sources but due to how bizarre it looks git public attention.
That’s the point though, worn properly. Many did not wear it properly at the time.
@@Mgl1206 well, it doesn't mean that corset is a bad thung, it means that some people are stupid, and in stupid hands anything can be dangerous
@@ЯАга-я4л RUclipsrs wear there historic costumes for a few hours to a day at most, in the modern world of medicine, health care, and environmental conditions. Women of the Victorian Era wore them every day in most cases, with low quality medical treatment and poor knowledge of proper health conditions in a debilitating and dangerous environment. It's more then just what it can do to a body. And I've seen what a corset can do worn right under slightly bad conditions personally by one of those historical reenactors. Collapsing due to heat, trouble breathing, and the following broken ribs that came from people getting her out of it quickly so she could breathe. And to what? Artificially make their waist look skinnier.....well it's a good thing we have better understanding of health and nutrition and don't need those for that purpose anymore then, huh?
@@weeboftheleft5113 we do different things now. High heels, pointy-end shoes, steroids for bodybuilding, botox, cosmetic surgery, all kinds of things. Both men and women, even back in the day men wore corsets too.
@@ЯАга-я4л Yes, that's the point I'm making to you. Saying 'they're safe, youtubers have worn them' isn't accurate, cause WE live different today vs how they did then. We have BETTER health conditions and education. And we KNOW better then to wear them all the time.....thanks for repeating what I had already said in a more roundabout fashion though.
"It was stinky air", makes it sound like people didn´t realize how poop makes the air stink.
You mentioned John Snow. Extra History did a really good series on his fight with cholera.
I know there's also a Map Men episode on John Snow and how he marked all the cholera cases on a map. That's how I became familiar about John Snow's fight with cholera.
My great-grandfather was acrobat working for Barnum and Bailey's circus. He went on a tour from America to the UK with them in about 1890 and decided to stay in Britain.
Dowton Abbey is excellent if you like watching period dramas. It does have easter eggs for people that like history, it also teachers people about the period without them knowing it. I've watched a few of them, mainly the Xmas ones because it was almost impossible not to. The later episodes were the better ones because of the WW1 element, but its just not a program for me. All the characters are played well, Dame Maggie Smith brings alot of the comedic value to the program.
The Edwardian era, that is
@@NeonBeeCat Arguably from 1901 to 1914 is the Edwardian era, but he passed away in 1910. The program starts in 1912 with King George the 5th on the throne and throughout, also WW1 breaks out in series 1. There isn't really an era until the name change to Windsor, for obvious reasons (the family name).
Corsets themselves are harmless (unless they’re made with Parisian/Scheele’s Green pigment (see Deadly Wallpaper). “Tight Lacing” was a very unhealthy as well as extremely rare practice. Some women wore their corsets too long, and like scoliosis patients who wear their back braces too long, their abdominal muscles atrophied. A RUclipsr named Bernadette Banner has great historical fashion videos including one that talks about corsets and her scoliosis and tight lacing. She debunks tons of myths, too
Downton Abbey is just a historical soap opera. As a person who doesn’t like soaps but loves history, I’d recommend it. I’ve watched it all the way through
Working class life expectancy being so low didn't mean people were dying at 25. It means that the average of all people's age at death was around 25. This includes all infant deaths. If you made it out of childhood and into adulthood then chances were that you'd live to be at least somewhat elderly. Of course that doesn't mean that it was as good as things are today still post childhood. It's just like how a lot of people think that in the Middle Ages hardly anyone lived to 40. Most did live at least that long if they managed to become an adult.
The current Swedish king Carl XVI Gustaf king is related to queen Victoria of the UK.
To clarify, _every_ modern royal family (including the deposed ones) in Europe has some familial connection or tie back to Victoria. Belgium and Spain in particular, but also the present pretenders of the Hohenzollerns and the Romanovs.
2:26 I love your facial expressions before he drops the Keeps ad 😂😂😂 that was great
You really ought to cover Blue Jay's video on the DMZ. Three words: Operation Paul Bunyan. XD
Regarding “Scheele’s Green” wallpaper, the arsenic-derived pigment was used for much more. It’s also known as “Paris Green,” and one quick RUclips search will take you to a great video about “Parisian Green Deadly Fashion” will serve you a nice rabbit hole to sink into when you’re bored. It’s wild that people wore it. It’s one of my favorite colors, and I look great wearing it, but it’s a replica pigment. Nowhere on clothing (or upholstery, which is usually where I see the correct hue of green) is there a giant skull with “POISON” written with it. 13:32
Regarding if you would like Downton Abbey, honestly Mr. Terry, I think you would. I kind of think that you and my dad would be friends, and since my dad enjoys that series a lot, I think you would like it too! He loves history, particularly British history (he can name the line of British kings from King Charles III to *at least* William the Conqueror, and that's as an American lol and he has studied various British wars in-depth), and so I'd like to think he'd recommend this TV series to you!
You don't think this has something to do with genes? Like I've never heard a black person interested in science, art, history, writing, etc.
Maybe I'm wrong but genetics and IQ are real.
What do you think?
@@robertmills3830 Eugenics, you discovered Eugenics.
14:00 Its a big shame the whole corset thing has such a bad reputation about shifting organs and permanentely changing your body. I would recommend watching the video by Bernadette Banner on the subject.
I think you would like Downton Abbey. It covers some interesting changes in society including women becoming liberated, a lower class chauffeur marrying a daughter of the gentry family, the affect a Titanic death had on the family relating to the entailment of the estate, and the part of WWI is very good. I am usually very critical of period dramas (I hated the Titanic movie because of it), but history is very well presented in this series.
First positive opinion I've seen about Downtown Abbey
The worst part about the mummies is that people would literally EAT parts of the body.
The John Snow one also had a building next door with zero Cholera cases, upon examination he realised they had a separate ground pump too, which bolstered his theory even more; the only group not getting sick in that area are people using a different pump.
How to survive Victorian london: dont live in Victorian london.
Smart
If I were transported back to Victorian England and was part of the upper crust I would definitely start a railway. There was amazing money in the railways back then, like literal-minded breaking levels of money especially if you survived long enough to see the grouping act
Lucky for you, Mr. Terry, the Penny Farthing (big wheel bike) is apparantly making a comeback. With some modern models already made! I saw something about that very reasently.
Imagine Dragons are amazing, always has been, probably always will be.
People just get annoyed with stuff when it's popular enough.
12:00 I think it would take a literal “mummy’s curse” to get people to repatriate Egypt’s ancient artifacts.
Terry, Imagine Dragons made Enemy. If you will decide to not like the band, fair enough. But Enemy and Demons are genuine highlights of that band worth giving a listen to
One of the things you could comfort yourself with would be at least you're not living in 19th century _Russia._
Downton Abbey is an overall great show, though I have to warn you it's basically 50/50 on the historical accuracy front. It does a great job showing the many social changes of the early 20th century, though, so you may enjoy it for that reason alone.
@Mr.TerryHistory that sovereign citizen video from a few days ago reminded me a lot of the "reichsbürger"-movement in germany (literally "reich-citizens"), who think that the german government is illegitimat and the german empire still technically exists. There have been fatal incidents with police and some groups even made (incompetent) Plans for abducting politicians or overthrowing the governement in the last few years. Maybe you could make a video comparing those groups? I would love to hear your judgement
Regarding the Egyptian items in Britain and elsewhere, this can be looked at differently than many other cultural trophies taken by the British Empire.
First off, the Egyptian items were the result of grave robbing, they didn't just take something from plain sight (like the Elgin marbles) or items that saw use by their respective cultures. If someone digs up graves today it's a crime, but not an international incident, not even if great-grandma was buried with her 5ct diamond ring.
Second, the Egyptians had been looting the tombs for centuries and most of those items were melted down for the gold. The Brits took items from hard-to-find tombs and kept them intact. They add to British social wealth, but it's not like Britain funneled Egyptian gold currency out of the country. The value of these items is greater than their component parts.
So you can make a decent argument that these items are more a part of modern British identity than Egyptian identity. The Brits have loved having these items for over 150 years, but to the Egyptians these objects were buried relics from a era before living memory.
Not saying some degree of apology wouldn't be a good idea, but I don't think repatriation of the items will ever happen. These items are more British than they are Egyptian at this point.
Even life as an aristocrat back then would be displeasing to a good majority of people today. You still had to walk through the streets, smell the Thames, and money didn't really buy actually better healthcare yet.
I always found it odd that all of Queen Victoria’s children survived to adulthood. Considering the infant mortality rate at the time. The photo of child chimney sweep was taken in 1980. Apparently, he was dressed for a fancy dress competition celebrating the centennial for the East Street Market. You would hate Downton Abbey. They make working in service seem glamorous. It wasn’t, the historical inaccuracies are just plain ridiculous. It’s essentially a historical soap opera. Historically domestic staff would have been as young as thirteen at the time. Up from the Victorian era where children as young as ten were working in service. Many of whom were taken from work houses and expected to work to pay off their parents debts. The hours were long, the pay was exploitive and the work was physically demanding.
The reason for not hiring 13 year old actors is they are 13, lol. 😂 At the end of the day acting is a job requiring long hours on set. Even with child labor laws kids on set are often overworked by sneaky work arounds. I don’t think making kids work is a good way to call out ‘look how horrible it is that these kids are working!’ Downtown Abbey is historical fiction…. Heavy on the fiction. If you know that and watch it for the drama, it’s fine.
@@TheDawnofVanlife They have episodes where the domestic staff play dress up and wear ball gowns while walking down the main flight of stairs. In reality domestic staff would have been fired for that. There is a reason why they had their own staircases. You would never have been able to speak to the family the way they do in Downton Abbey. Shows like upstairs downstairs have used adult actors to portray the average age of domestic servants better than Downton Abbey does. In a sense because people don’t study history, they get away with portraying the family as kind to their staff in a way that class structures absolutely wouldn’t have allowed for. There is zero chance that a valet accused of murder would have been allowed to stay on in country manor. It’s more of a soap opera than anything else. Julian Fellows uses it to prop up a version of history that is pure fantasy. I wouldn’t even call it historical fiction because it is sorely lacking in factual history. Funny that shows like game of thrones hired teenagers yet you think it would be impossible for a show like Downton Abbey to do so.
21:25 Let's not forget about the Spanish Flu.
You'd love downtown abbey. It's a great show showing the change of the UK, racial in equality, and how the local and world politics effect a family of aristocrats who are slowly loosing their influence.
Jay Foreman's Map Men have a youtube video that goes more into depth on the John Snow investigation. Apparently the old woman who lived far from the infected area said she preferred the water from her daughter's well because "it tasted sweeter". And apparently it was a cracked sewage pipe that had leaked into the water supply.
Downton Abbey is *fantastic* and I wholeheartedly recommend anyone watch it. It's very good.
12:46 I'm pretty sure the brain is one of the organs they remove by scraping it out through the nose when they were mummified.
Carl Benz wasn’t to sure of his new invention. In response his wife Bertha stole his car drove 105km (65 miles) to her moms house inventing the first break pads while in route all while showing off her hubbies new creation gaining world wide attention.
love your content, half the time I've already watched the videos you react to but happily watch them again with your commentary.
John snow already knew it was the water from the previous outbreak he just couldn't prove it before the outbreak ended mostly because they thought that was stupid
@13:30 I had to look up the exploding pool balls and yep it's legit:
_Celluloid and its predecessors were all made with nitrocellulose, also known as pyroxylin, flash paper, and gun cotton. As you might guess from that string of names, these plastics were highly flammable, and when used in billiard balls, they had some, well, interesting results. Some of Hyatt’s billiard ball experiments involved forming balls and then coating them with collodion, a solution of pyroxylin in ether and alcohol. He recalled the side effect in 1914:
In order to secure strength and beauty, only coloring pigments were added, and in the least quantity; consequently a lighted cigar applied would at once result in a serious flame, and occasionally the violent contact of the balls would produce a mild explosion like a percussion guncap. We had a letter from a billiard saloon proprietor in Colorado, mentioning this face and saying he did not care so much about it, but that instantly every man in the room pulled his gun._
Living in Victirian England is like living in modern day australia. but the killers are in your house 24/7
I mean, to be fair, we're all paying to sleep. That's why we buy or rent homes. Or hotel rooms.
I get your point, but we do more in a home…or hotel room even, then sleep. It’s not quite comparable. Heck, if you want you can go to a public park bench and take a nap for free.
Those big wheel bicycles were incredibly dangerous
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Piper Pinky is wild..💀
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Imagine Dragons aren't as bad as some people like to pretend, but they're not particularly great either. They make the sort of music you'd hear if you turn on the radio on a long car trip and tune it to a random, generic station, where it's kind of just white noise, neither pleasant nor offensive. Some of their songs are almost passable.
13:31 they were going absolutely crazy with morphine cough syrup. Good lord lol
20:45 You still have to pay to sleep though.
Im so thankful that chimney sweeping had gone a long way since then otherwise my job would be rather unpleasant.
The hair loss part was a smooth transition to an ad. I’m 28 already with hair loss so I just went bald 😂😂
“You had to pay to sleep!” I mean yeah, me too, my landlord doesn’t let me sleep here for free…
Doesn't "malaria" literally mean bad air (mal aria)? Which is how they also thought this disease was spread.
“Think Britain will give back the stuff they took from Egypt?”
Reminds me of Killmonger in Black Panther when he’s looking at the African exhibit and the lady says the items are not for sale, and he says back how do you think your donors got these items, do you think they paid a fair price or just took them from the people.
The mercury in the hats explains "The Mad Hatter" from "Alice in Wonderland"!
22:50 Nice Benz. 😆
I love how old people like to sit around talking about the good old days with this kind of shit being the good old days
I think the Paul bit was a reference to Philomena Cunk's mate
On the imagine dragons bit if I can't decide whether or not I like a thing I take the oldest method, try when drunk, then again when sober, you'll soon decide.
I like Imagine Dragons. Also, the bike with the big wheel is called a Penny Farthing.
(Penny-farthing?)
Custom luxury like clean water. Warm clean weather proof dwellings would be a Kings luxury
I think the stuff might go back o Egypt . I think most items the British took from other counties should with some exceptions. In from they either don’t have the funds to have the proper facilities and protection for the items and until then they should wait or the countries could be unstable and dangerous so the safety of the item is at risk. And lastly there’s situations like the Koh I Noor Diamond in which multiple countries have a claim to it and it’s history has been that it has been taken over and over again by strength making the British claim no less than any of the others in India and Pakistan who obtained the Diamond through conquest . And that returning it to any one country would just cause more issues with surrounding countries
Here's something sad on the info about mortality rate. Women, or i should say young girls, started having kids around the age of 16 because there was a high mortality rate from giving birth. Wanna know something sad? It's not any better now. The damage from birthing isn't much better as while the place to give birth is usually cleaner, the risks are still there
You actually can still buy pennyfarthings. (The bikes with the huge front wheel) It's niche but they still make them
I can confirm Paul is definitely a freak
20:57 in modern day, we call it rent.
Black adder way before downtown Abby. Downtown Abby is more sitcom/soap from what I've seen. Vs black adder British comedy and some historical events or something in every episode.
Imagine Dragons’ “Radioactive.” At first I thought they wrote Japan’s new national anthem post-Fukushima.
your hair looks fine man. love ya mr terry. i'm a 21 year old dude but i wish i woulda had a teacher like you.
I haven't watched Downton Abbey but I do know they did a hell of a lot of research to get as accurate as possible with the history from the Edwardian period upto the mid 1920s and how the lives of the landed gentry changed over that period so I reckon it would be something you might be interested in. Also I would loive in Victorian times......not London mind but either Plymouth or Grimsby and be working on the railways :3 companies that surprisingly looked after their employees giving them jobs for life lol
he was soo married to the "Three Classes" theory that pervades the modern and postmodern eras and he still left out the middle one. back then there where many classes, there was some mobility but it generally took generations.
Lower Class, unskilled labour, you died young from working around 100-120 hours a week, next to no prospects for advancement.
Working Class, (split in to lower and upper), Semi Skilled (for lower) or Skilled (for upper) Labour, you had a steady job working 60-80 hours a week and could afford somewhere to sleep, you live longer than the lower class and have some upward mobility for your kids.
Trades Class, you work in a Shop or are "In Service", or own a small shop of your own or perhaps you own a small river barge or a Handsome (Cab) or perhaps you are a State School Teacher, a chance for you to move up in the Trades Class more so for your kids or for them to move over to the Crafts Class.
Craftsman Class, what we today call a "Trade", the Quality of your work and the Prestige of your goods governs your wealth and standing.
the Middle Class, Doctors, Lawyers, (Public and Private) Teachers, University Professors, Bankers, Merchants/Wealthy Tradesmen, Local Politicians, Civil Servants ect. a good chance to move up within the class and even in to the Upper Class but it's more likely your kids will. your family may trace itself to the Gentry or Nobility if some Landed & Titled relative dies you may be able to inherent and jump class.
the Upper Class, they are Senior Government Types and Rich middle class types, you just lack lands and Titles
Gentry and Nobility, you or one of your close relatives has a Title, owns Land and likely has a ton of money but there is a even chance that money is tied up in investments or has to be sunk strait back in the property to maintain it.
unless your Trade or Craft has you working with hazardous goods once you hit the middle of the Trades or Craftsman classes provided you reached adulthood your life expectancy is almost as good as in the modern US, but after about 50 your quality of life takes a sharp nose dive and can be fairly retched being effectively invalid by your mid 50's middle class and better the drop off is much slower and your not becoming an invalid till your late 50's or early 60's
Contrary to what Bluejay said, to experience the Edwardian era, you had to have been born in the Victorian era, because the Edwarian era was over so quickly.
I mean, you could be born in the Edwardian era, but the only experience you would remember was two world wars and a economic depression...
I thought your shirt had small Aztec art docks on it for a second
20:45 - aren't you pay to sleep now? you most obviously can sleep outdoors outside city for free while it's warm enough, but if you intend to do it otherwise, you should own a household of some kind and pay to purchase it and maintain it. or pay for hotel/hostel/room.
On the Marry Poppins subject: the term "Hottentot" used in the movie was an actual racial slur, which I only found out about as a kid when my grandfather mentioned it. Good times.
Didn’t they say, “you could smell London before you could see it.
Miasma theory lasted so long partly because of airborne diseases contributing to the confirmation bias.
Considering that the facing stones of pyramids are part of mosques and palaces now, no, i don't think the British Museum should ever give that stuff back. In fact, more archaeological expeditions to the middle East would be great. DAESH blew up priceless ruins while they were rampaging across the middle east
Could you react to:modern History of Europe countryballs part 1/2. Both are in different channels
Work glorious work
I understand where the miasma theory came from a lil bit. You ever smell someone else’s fart and feel like you’re gonna die? I can only imagine how much worse it would be in Victorian Londoners’ guts
20:37 Coffin 731...
_Oh no..._
When will you do LazerPigs long T-34 video?
Imagine dragons is honestly hit or miss for me
22:29 reject Imagine Dragons. Embrace metal
Just drink the local beer in 7 dials.
I already knew Victorian London was gross because there's a brand of laxative named after one of the rivers that run through it 🤣🤣
So was asbestos for isolation already a thing at the time?
To be fair the mummy unwrapping stuff wasn't like ten thousand pharaos but more like the mummies of all the higher/middle class people. they literally had droves of those. Aparrently egyptians sometimes even used them as fuel for fire if they didn't have anything else. So it's not as if the egyptians themselves valued them that much. Especially considering most of them were Islamic and actually didn't hold the same beliefs about the afterlife as they did. Which is kind of funny how much they want their stuff back. It definitely doesn't have to do with it bringing a lot of tourist money and is only about a cultural heritage and history.
We do need a swagmobile indeed
Happy Indian and Persian New year Mr Terry 🎉🎉
Despite what Vera Lynn sang about, we don't have bluejays here. Otherwise a good account of Victorian London
I'm right with you on the Imagine Dragons comment. I really can't tell if they're good or bad.
The life expectancy thing is often misinterpreted to mean you'll die before thirty.
Wrong, it's an average. Child mortality is what dragged that average down. Survive to ten and your chance of seeing sixty is very good.
Imagine dragons is ok not really my taste in music but I can listen to them