I have an experience with this. While I was teaching guitar, I discovered that when the student couldn't play a struming, they couldn't sing it. So I did flip things around. First they learn how to sing the rithm. It works like magic. They learn how to play it so much faster. And with some practice ( not that much ) the only thing that I have to do is to sing the new struming once, they repeat what I sang and they play it immediately. I use the same thing for the melody, specialty for syncopations or back- beats.
I searched for audiation and this is the first thing that came up. While I appreciate the video, you're completely right that this needs more videos and more exercises
Great video Levi. I’ve come on leaps and bounds since I started singing what I’m trying to learn. If I can internalise the melody or even just the rhythm then it makes it much easier to actually learn the piece.
I play piano and needed to hear this to develop my ear better. The more you know the song the better you’ll be able to hear! I know this I just need to do it. Thanks for valuable advice!
Great advice! If you can't hear it, you can't sing it. If you can't sing it, that means you aren't connecting with music and you'll never be a natural, which at the end of the day means...no one will be attracted to your music.
Audiation visualization, see things in your head hear things in your head. Audiation does not have anything to do with what things are called. Only with what you hear internally. You may be able to visualize a thing and percieve it from different perspectives and even rotate it visually, zoom in on details to reflect on them without knowing what all those things are called. Audiation means do the same with sound. Your inner voice, the one that speaks to you is an aspect of it and demonstrates the connect between language and music. To develop this: listen; sing what you hear; play what you hear. It is a form of musical memory and needs to be exercised to function well. Curwen hand signs helps with this too.
HI Levi, thanks for your videos. There is helpful info contained in them, and I do appreciate it. I am struggling quite a bit with ear training, and have been trying. I want to follow your advice but am wondering if you offer anything geared to just this subject alone, be it a book or course. I am new to learning the electric bass, and have started my journey a bit late in life. I know the importance of this technique you speak of, regarding being able to KNOW an interval, and being able to play it, and not just recognize it or play it after hearing it. And I will say that those tasks are also not coming easy to me, at all, either. I have the hardest time distinguishing (recognizing) intervals that are close to one another, or close relative to the tonic. Maybe it’s my age, and perhaps my ears aren’t up to the task. But it is discouraging. ☹️
Hey man, I did do a course just recently for Licklibrary but it's obviously a guitar focused one (as in, I'm holding a guitar and use that as a reference). I also do ear training on my patreon page, and there I've shifted over to using the piano a little more to show you that it's not instrument specific. You have to transcribe though, I have so many students who talk about their age being the thing stopping them, but they've put in the time and now they're working out all the songs they want to play without the need for outside help. You just have to stick to it!
I have picked up on this with organ music: If i dont wanted use the organ, i use the piano and play the manual parts on the piano and SOLFEGE my way through the pedal line. When i get yo the organ, all i need to do is just corrodinate hands and feet. Its quite neat, but its alot of work!
I would always recommend foundations. I’m yet to have any student who doesn’t have some gaping holes in their knowledge. But there written in a way that if you get intermediate and stuff is uncertain, you can go back
I want to buy your book in digital form, but I'm forced to use the kindle digital app on the computer(which is where I spend most of my time playing guitar). I did this for a Hal Leonard book and the quality is horrible. I can't zoom in and can hardly read it. I'm getting older and can't see like I used to. Am I going to experience the same with your digital book?
That’s laughably incorrect sir. The song Maria from west side story features a b5 prominently in the melody and is easy to sing. Exactly the same at the start of the Simpsons theme. Repeat what you read online less and practice more and you’ll be surprised what you’re capable of
@@LeviClay Re-read what you wrote and you will see that it is you who are wrong. West Side Story was performed by highly trained singers, all of whom would have had graduated with M.M. in vocal performance, with over 6 years of sight-singing and formal vocal practice. The Simpsons theme would be performed by professional vocalists in a Hollywood studio who have decades of experience as the top sight-reading vocalists in the world. So GTFO with your supposed "knowledge" and elitist attitude. b5 is the hardest interval to sing (within the octave) without significant training and you can be damn sure that those viewers watching this video (beginners) won't be able to sing it. You didn't even sing Sweet Child o' Mine with proper intonation, as you admitted in this video.
That interval is as easy as any other alternate scale note. What might make it difficult is the context. When I sing, I don’t think about the leaps from note to note, but rather how they relate to the tonic, and anything that might throw off your tonal center can make even easy intervals slightly challenging.
2:10 "English muthafucka do you speak it!?" Immediately came to mind. Haha. Great video. I've been getting a lot more serious on my ear training. I gotta say, I can really hear my favorite solos in my head, I'm not too sure I can sing 16th notes beyond 110 bpm. There's a lot of that. Lol
@@LeviClay Keep on shreddin' my Scottish friend. I just watched Braveheart, I'm whacked on pre-workout and putting in a 10 hour shred session. Keep on killin' it on that guitar neck my brother in shred!
I have an experience with this. While I was teaching guitar, I discovered that when the student couldn't play a struming, they couldn't sing it. So I did flip things around. First they learn how to sing the rithm. It works like magic. They learn how to play it so much faster. And with some practice ( not that much ) the only thing that I have to do is to sing the new struming once, they repeat what I sang and they play it immediately. I use the same thing for the melody, specialty for syncopations or back- beats.
I searched for audiation and this is the first thing that came up. While I appreciate the video, you're completely right that this needs more videos and more exercises
Well I’m working on a full course on it 🙌🏻
Oh man what a gem of a video. My voice teacher is teaching me this for vocals.
Thanks for the tips, Levi. I’m definitely going to try singing the solos to try and remember them in the future.
This was a huge part of Lennie Tristano’s teaching as well. Very beneficial practice for sure😊
Literally one of the best lessons I've ever learned.
Great video Levi. I’ve come on leaps and bounds since I started singing what I’m trying to learn. If I can internalise the melody or even just the rhythm then it makes it much easier to actually learn the piece.
Really great thought providing lesson. I saved in among my keys to guitar greatness playlist. So thank.
I play piano and needed to hear this to develop my ear better. The more you know the song the better you’ll be able to hear! I know this I just need to do it. Thanks for valuable advice!
So useful info!
Great advice! If you can't hear it, you can't sing it. If you can't sing it, that means you aren't connecting with music and you'll never be a natural, which at the end of the day means...no one will be attracted to your music.
Great lesson
This guy is the GOAT of ear training. If my ear was 20% as good as his I would apply at any music school in the world.
Just wait till my ear training course drops this year!
@@LeviClay Awesome, I wish you nothing but great success!
Seeing S Jackson is visual recall, memory, a scene you found powerful
Is “audiation” = memory, recall, a 4 syllable noun for recall?
So do you have examples or ideas on how to practice audition in a more methodical manner?
Audiation visualization, see things in your head hear things in your head. Audiation does not have anything to do with what things are called. Only with what you hear internally. You may be able to visualize a thing and percieve it from different perspectives and even rotate it visually, zoom in on details to reflect on them without knowing what all those things are called. Audiation means do the same with sound. Your inner voice, the one that speaks to you is an aspect of it and demonstrates the connect between language and music.
To develop this: listen; sing what you hear; play what you hear. It is a form of musical memory and needs to be exercised to function well.
Curwen hand signs helps with this too.
My copy arrived from Amazon today
You got one before me!
@@LeviClay d'oh!
HI Levi, thanks for your videos. There is helpful info contained in them, and I do appreciate it. I am struggling quite a bit with ear training, and have been trying. I want to follow your advice but am wondering if you offer anything geared to just this subject alone, be it a book or course. I am new to learning the electric bass, and have started my journey a bit late in life. I know the importance of this technique you speak of, regarding being able to KNOW an interval, and being able to play it, and not just recognize it or play it after hearing it. And I will say that those tasks are also not coming easy to me, at all, either. I have the hardest time distinguishing (recognizing) intervals that are close to one another, or close relative to the tonic. Maybe it’s my age, and perhaps my ears aren’t up to the task. But it is discouraging. ☹️
Hey man, I did do a course just recently for Licklibrary but it's obviously a guitar focused one (as in, I'm holding a guitar and use that as a reference). I also do ear training on my patreon page, and there I've shifted over to using the piano a little more to show you that it's not instrument specific.
You have to transcribe though, I have so many students who talk about their age being the thing stopping them, but they've put in the time and now they're working out all the songs they want to play without the need for outside help. You just have to stick to it!
@, Thanks, I will keep at it. 👍🏽
Great video, Levi, and best beard ever.
so much feel bro
I have picked up on this with organ music: If i dont wanted use the organ, i use the piano and play the manual parts on the piano and SOLFEGE my way through the pedal line. When i get yo the organ, all i need to do is just corrodinate hands and feet.
Its quite neat, but its alot of work!
Would you recommend buying the first guided practise book or could I go straight to the second book? I am a late intermediate player
I was gonna ask this yesterday but forgot, so thanks for this question!
I would always recommend foundations. I’m yet to have any student who doesn’t have some gaping holes in their knowledge. But there written in a way that if you get intermediate and stuff is uncertain, you can go back
@@LeviClay rock on, thanks!
@@LeviClay thanks dude! 😎
@@LeviClay FYI, can't download the audio files for Foundations. Says they can't find that book. Thanks!
Thank you. Yes, a song you know extremely well will help you anchor pitches, since they're burned into your brain.
I want to buy your book in digital form, but I'm forced to use the kindle digital app on the computer(which is where I spend most of my time playing guitar). I did this for a Hal Leonard book and the quality is horrible. I can't zoom in and can hardly read it. I'm getting older and can't see like I used to. Am I going to experience the same with your digital book?
You can buy the PDF directly from the fundamental changes site :)
@@LeviClay Thanks Levi! I got it and it's fantastic!
7:24 WAP? no thanks...never want to hear that again! 😀
I doubt you can sing a heavy metal guitar solo from Tony Iommi because the solos contain b5 which is the most difficult interval to sing.
That’s laughably incorrect sir. The song Maria from west side story features a b5 prominently in the melody and is easy to sing. Exactly the same at the start of the Simpsons theme.
Repeat what you read online less and practice more and you’ll be surprised what you’re capable of
@@LeviClay Re-read what you wrote and you will see that it is you who are wrong. West Side Story was performed by highly trained singers, all of whom would have had graduated with M.M. in vocal performance, with over 6 years of sight-singing and formal vocal practice. The Simpsons theme would be performed by professional vocalists in a Hollywood studio who have decades of experience as the top sight-reading vocalists in the world.
So GTFO with your supposed "knowledge" and elitist attitude. b5 is the hardest interval to sing (within the octave) without significant training and you can be damn sure that those viewers watching this video (beginners) won't be able to sing it. You didn't even sing Sweet Child o' Mine with proper intonation, as you admitted in this video.
That interval is as easy as any other alternate scale note. What might make it difficult is the context. When I sing, I don’t think about the leaps from note to note, but rather how they relate to the tonic, and anything that might throw off your tonal center can make even easy intervals slightly challenging.
Anyone here aphatantastic? Does this get in the way of audiation?
I did a video on aphantasia, that's to do with visualisation. Not being able to imagine sound is called anauralia
@@LeviClay Facinating. I'll check it out
REPETITION = audiation?
2:10 "English muthafucka do you speak it!?" Immediately came to mind. Haha. Great video. I've been getting a lot more serious on my ear training. I gotta say, I can really hear my favorite solos in my head, I'm not too sure I can sing 16th notes beyond 110 bpm. There's a lot of that. Lol
say "what" one more time
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… a-ha. So that’s why melodies seem simple a lot of the time. Guess that my particular kind of neurodiversity has some upsides after all.
And ... which is the secret?
S'up Levi?
Yo
@@LeviClay Keep on shreddin' my Scottish friend. I just watched Braveheart, I'm whacked on pre-workout and putting in a 10 hour shred session. Keep on killin' it on that guitar neck my brother in shred!
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Literally every title is click bait mate… that’s the point. Titles are there to get you to click on the video 🤡