Forgot to mention that becoming the Dragon Warrior was never Tai Lung's dream, it was Shifu's. He said himself, all he ever wanted was to make Shifu proud. This clearly explain why he was never meant to be the DW, Tai Lung was fufilling somebody elses' destiny instead of his own.
It was actually Tai Lung’s dream. Because Shifu never said he was destined for being the dragon warrior, he said he was destined for greatness. It then said that wasn’t enough for him and wanted the dragon warrior position so badly darkness consumed him. Does Shifu hold some responsibility? Yes, but not to the extent of Tai Lung becoming a villain. Tai Lung CHOSE that path himself
@@DallanRichey "Who filled my head with dreams? Who drove my training until my bones crushed? Who denied my destiny?" -Tai Lung's word. As I mentioned before, Shifu's dream and not his. Which bring us to the moment where Oogway told him about his illusion of control. Shifu putted him through all hard training and wanted him to be the DW so bad that he didn't realized that this was Oogway decision and not his. This is clearly Oogway reminded him the last time that he tried to force someone into a path that it wasn't meant his.
100% only few people understand it, imagine the heartbreak when Shifu didn't even stand for him, Tai Lung was destined for greatness but Shifu was the reason why he turned out like this but still it was unintentional.
@@albinowolf8453 again that’s a perspective but that is also Tai Lung’s flawed perspective. As said in the movie, “Shifu told him he was destined for greatness. But it was never enough for him (Tai Lung), he eagerly sought for the dragon scroll.” Shifu never told him he was destined to be the dragon warrior, Tai Lung dreamed it. Shifu put him through tough training as tough training is required by anyone to learn kung-fu. Shifu never said he was the dragon warrior He did not force him on the path to lay waste to the valley for revenge, Tai Lung chose that himself. Again Shifu deserves some responsibility and he admitted it, Tai Lung becoming a villain was Tai Lung’s own choice, Shifu did not make him a villain
@@anouc3d550 No hes not if anything hes the perfect villain cause he actually follows along the point of a real villain plotline instead of my “my parents died” or “it’s fun to kill.” Or “I just like being evil.” Tai Lung spent basically his entire life to achieve a goal that really wasn’t even his to begin with all for it to be rejected. If anything that would drive anyone to insanity.
Source: There was no "dragon scroll". It was a test made by Oogway for Tai Lung. It doubled as a test of self-confidence (for Po). Shifu himself never even knew the scroll was blank! Oogway saw the need for the test from the beginning. Shifu loved Tai Lung like a son, but he was also blinded by his pride. It fed Tai Lung's ego. So, Oogway made the test without telling Shifu its purpose. Oogway died without changing the test. The scroll was always a test of humility for Tai Lung, but it was just a blank scroll. To Po, it just meant there was no "key" to being someone special. Proof: Oogway did NOT make the test to teach Tai Lung self-confidence!!! The whole reason for the test was because Shifu taught Tai Lung everything but humility! Oogway came up with the test during Tai Lung's training, and saw its true purpose after he chose Po, right before he died.
@@Chips_is_him i just figure it out myself tbh. And I just now remembered Tigress telling Po about Tai Lung's origin. That scene just about confirms it for me but I think it's still technically a theory, since it didn't show Oogway place the scroll or anything
It does make sense because Tai Lung was hard working mastered a thousand scrolls and was trained in the Art of Kung Fu since childhood. Tai Lung was the closest candidate to the Dragon Warrior so it wouldn’t make sense if the reason was “there’s someone better than him.” It was likely that if Tai Lung accepted this and learned his lesson he would have completed his test and became the TRUE dragon warrior.
Whats sad about is that tai lung received a life imprisonment when all he did was rage thru the valley of peace he didn’t even killed or harmed anyone if wasn’t for the zeng he would totally die there in old age and shifu didn’t even bother visiting him not even once
I never thought about it like that, imagine twenty years of rotting away in prison and your father you worked tirelessly to make happy never visited or talked to you once since. I think it’d make anyone vengeful
This would work, if not for two things: He never wanted the role, he just wanted to make Shifu proud, it was Shifu not sticking up for him that caused him to go rogue. Second, the way Shifu trained him was the problem, he used too much destruction!
Also Shifu was alsi his FATHER. Rotten children are the product of bad parenting. Then grow into bad Adults. Shifus parenting was filling Tais head with dreams and a goal. Then push him day and night to master all the scrolls and techniques Shifu knew for that goal. Shifu says it himself. "I have always been proud. It was my pride that blinded me to what you became. To what i was turning ylu into." He never bothered instilling humility and other core lessons into his son. Only training and the glorious destiny at the end of the painful road.
Yea Tai Lung is one of those villains I’ve felt sorry for especially since his potential is so high and literally he got the Anakin Skywalker treatment to go with that. Po showed humility even when nobody including Shifu didn’t believe he was capable of being the dragon warrior and proved why Lung wasn’t the one. Still one of the best written villains in Dreamworks history
Po was raised humbly in a Noodle shop by a great dad. Teaching him the right values. Tai Lung was pushed by Shifus ego to dedicate his entire life training for a great destiny. Never properly parent Tai. Thats why they reacted so diffrent. The humble man who comes to power values it The one powerful from an early age whos entire life goal is to be the greatest will not.
which is why they made the tests go in reverse. find the most humble warrior that is constantly in a state of humility and have them learn everything they need.
I kinda agree. Before they were running for the title of "dragon warrior", both Po and Tai Lung were the best fighters (tai lung is, po comes later) and both of them were rejected. That was a test on how they will react to it. Tai Lung became furious while Po keeps his head up and continue to be better to be worthy of the title. Thats why Oogway chooses Po.
@ThatRandomDude.mp4 I would agree with you. This series makes him a villain for sure. But if you really look at his actions, he's just an angry individual who lashed out from something that he believed was taken from him. That doesn't make him a villain, or if that's the case. Then all humans are we've all lashed out at some point.
@@cfh_doomed8879 I personally don't know many people who lashed out to a point where they destroyed and harmed of what could be hundreds of people. I see your point, but he still did something that is considered very evil and hasn't really done much good for atone for it. Or at least to a point where he'd be an anti-hero.
Shifu is the father. A fathers job is to instill morals and values. Prepairing the kid for adulthood. Shifu failed him and turned him into what he was. His actions may have been his own, but his Father is the core issue.
Redeemed himself? Tf are you talking bout? It was shit writing and all he did was, for some reason, not beat the shit out of Po with the rest of the villains
If only. He didnt even get to talk to his father. Not even help defeat the Villan. If they were smart you made the resolution to defeat a Villan made up of diffrent peoples abilities by overwhelming her. Utelizing all the villans to temporarily ate. Since its an enemy of my enemy situation. But oh well.
Oogway knew Tai Lung wouldn’t be able to handle the truth about the dragon scroll. Whether he was chosen as the Dragon Warrior or not he would go absolutely crazy and destroy everything
Fact , master oogway said, ''otherwise'' Which meant he has what it takes but he lacks inner peace(humility) Shifu taught him well but didn't teach him everything
Tigress wasnt pushed or had her head filled with dreams since childhood. Shifu was very cold with her. Thats why she never grew that ego. She slso had friends and social interactiions. Not solitude and only training day and night for a gloriizs destiny.
I like this assessment of tai lung and that certainly makes sense. Even though Po was ultimately chosen as the dragon warrior instead of tai lung I can certainly see that master ugway wanted to see how he could handle rejection and could he rise up to quell that dark nature in his heart without letting it consume him.
it was not just that, he was also failed by Shifu not questioning Oogway directly it was a dual test... Tai Lung then failed the test cause even Shifu did not believe in him anymore... if Shifu still believed it would be okay
Kung fu panda through space and time: Time is messed up because Lung is not the dragon warrior so Po has to go back in time and try to convince him to take the scroll but understand why he wasn’t given the scroll and fight himself. The version of his evil self with his newly found self. His own match. And po is there to help him but he has to fight Lung to convince him and then fight with him. 😮
Or...have Shifu his FATHER parent. Its his job raising Tai to teach him morals and values. There is the old saying. There are no bad students. Only bad teachers. Shifus tale is that until KFP2 he is only good at teaching the physical aspects of the art. His first student and son is tge embodyment of that. He pushed tai to ve the ultimate fighter, without traching him the spiritual or mental aspects you need along with it. No Shaolin Monk would freak out like that. Only an individual whos head was filled with ego and dreams. With big goals. Bjt never been prepaired to be denied in the end. Or to be contempt with who you are.
I mean if they came up with a finger hold that sends peoole inside the spirit world, i'm sure they can make up a chi reverse move to bring him back if they want to.
As much as I like the theory, I still not agree with it. Po was meant to be the Dragon Warrior since the beginning , long before any Master knew him. In the Third Movie Oogway said he saw the future of Kung Fu after seeing Po for the first time. And the legend of the Warrior in Black and White is also a Legend from a Past long ago. Also the Fact that Po learned Kung Fu incredible fast and surpasses everyone in the Series in just Weeks or Months and all other Masters have to learn Kung Fu for Years proves it. When it comes to Tai Lung, they thought he would be the Dragon Warrior but they got proved wrong.
there is Evil in Tai Lung Heart, and ?Master Oogway see that. but it not totally Tai Lung fault since he do all his best for Impress Master Shifu. but he turn out to be anger and Shifu could not stop him.
Ironically though that’s not stated officially by Oogway obviously, I don’t think these guys actually mean what they’re talking about, but it’s not a bad theory
This is very interesting because Tai Lung is very strong. he can even single-handedly defeat "The Furious Five". If Tai Lung had given up the title of "Dragon Warrior", perhaps he would have become the "Leader" of "The Furious Five". become the Strongest "Master" on "Land".
the thing is that since the secret of the scroll is belief in oneself the moment shifu told him it was time to meet oogway he fully belived he was the dragon warrior and kept that belief while imprisoned up untill he got the scroll. there was no hidden secret, no font of power, nothing. he ruined his life for nothing.
The lesson of the Kung Fu Panda trilogy is that.. You are the master of your destiny: No one and nothing can come in between you and your destiny except you..
"Dragon Warrior" was only ever a title. Tai Lung thought it was a direct power up. He gave up on the dream. Same with Tigress, who worked the hardest, only to give up on it when Po was chosen. I think the lesson was perseverance. Perseverance makes the dragon warrior.
That actually makes sense looking at it from that perspective. But what also was his downfall was Shifu not at least in his opinion, defending him. However you could argue that too was a part of those final test, as sometimes even those closest to you may not always have your back and you have to learn to adapt in that situation too, as horrible as may be, and he simply couldn’t. I think that’s also maybe why he didn’t understand when Po explained that the scroll has no hidden power or something it’s just a reflection of oneself, and Tia was so determined to achieve power and skill, he didn’t see this
That was actually a theory I’ve been having in my head as I rewatched the movie recently. What if that was supposed to be a test all along and he had to prove he could earn the title of dragon warrior, and yet despite all he had been seeing this as a rejection and so all that followed in the movie then happened.
Tai Lung is one of the main reasons why I love Kung Fu, it's honestly not even because of Pao 😅! It's really because of all the animal villains that the movies brought and even the shows. I wanted to watch the 4th Kung Fu Panda movie because I saw that Tai Lung was coming back, but I continued watching trailers and reading stuff about it. Because of what I found, I honestly might not watch the movie at all.
Tai lung never wanted to be a dragon warrior. He wanted shifu to be proud of him but when he saw shifu's face getting disappointed that snapped him into rage.
" Everything I did I did to make you PROUD, TELL ME HOW PROUD YOU ARE SHIFU... TELL MEEEE!!!". Also when shifu apologizes you can see in tai lungs face that he wanted to accept but he was too far gone at that point.
Oogway saw the kung fu by ancient panda's by teaching them to master a chi and thats why he choose PO to be the dragon warrior because of the past of ancient pandas and by the yin and yang but imagine what if tai lung was the dragon warrior he will definitely fight general kai.
Tai lung wasn't meant to be the dragon warrior, only shifu thought he would be the dragon warrior, but that's what made tai lung to get enraged and attack the valley, the person he looked upto and wanted to make proud didn't argue against oogway, he just accepted that tai lung wasn't the dragon warrior and didn't even try to comfort him, he just turned his back and walked away. Tai lung didn't deserve what he got, he worked hard day after day to achieve a goal he never truly wanted, he was pressured into something he wasn't destined to achieve, and when he was denied, the one person who wanted it left him, then after having enough he broke and tried getting the scroll, which caused him to be locked away for many years, i don't think anyone even visited him, shifu actively tried to keep him there.
A Kung Fu Panda 4 re-write (my opinion): Tai Lung becomes the dragon warrior, the rightful heir as he was meant to be. It comes full circle for him, Po, and Shifu. They all work together (along with the furious five) to stop the chameleon. A Darth Vader redemption arc for Tai Lung would have elevated the story so much more than what we got.
Meh nah I would’ve liked it if they did more to flush out why Tai Lung is all of sudden chill with Po You would assume he’s been self reflecting while in the spirit realm, but he could’ve also had been as vengeful as Kai was Also this doesn’t make sense cuz he’s meant to stay in the spirit realm… being dead and all
Dude, Oogwai al ready said that when he saw Po he knew he was the one detined to become dragon warrior if it had been Tai Lung, Oogway would have saw him as the destined to become dragon warrior
To me, Tai Lung Was never mad about being denied the scroll, he was mad that Shifu never stuck by his side despite filling his head with hopeless dreams.
If he would've just been humble, we wouldn't be stuck with a goofy ahh panda who's mentally handicapped and is always falling on his face. Tai Lung would've been the Goku of their world.
Po is the Dragon Warrior as Oogway said in Kung Fu Panda 3. He said Oogway saw the future of Kung Fu, and the past. That is why he chose Po as his right successor.
Honestly fair, enough, bro. Whatever we like to admit It or not He could have been mad about it sure But he took the his anger out on innocent people And destroyed everything It's on-site. We also need to remember. He wasn't Taught how to have humility or kindness. He was taught to be the best weapon there was. It's not His fault though. He was already adopted at a Kung Fu master By day one. I don't think he ever murdered anybody. Can somebody correct me if I'm wrong by that though?
Or Tai Lung retained enough control at first to think this was what was going on, and it was his doing that that disappointed Shifu enough to see what he was becoming. Also, I don't think Tai Lung needs a "redemption arc" per say, but having him return to the land of the living and defy all expectations by walking away peacefully would be appropriate. Bonus points if he says, "Farewell... Dragon Warrior" when he thinks no one else can hear him.
A lot of people, including with chosen one stories, think the chosen one is a title given. It's not. Oogway wasn't giving The Dragon Warrior as a prize. It's more of a future vision and seeing who that is from within. Po could have gone to Oogway as a nobody, or fully trained, and he'd have said he was the Dragon Warrior either way.
Do y'all ignore the third movie or smnthn? 💀 Oogway explained why he choosed Po. Which cancels the possibility of anybody but Po being the dragon warrior.
Forgot to mention that becoming the Dragon Warrior was never Tai Lung's dream, it was Shifu's. He said himself, all he ever wanted was to make Shifu proud. This clearly explain why he was never meant to be the DW, Tai Lung was fufilling somebody elses' destiny instead of his own.
Never thought of it that way. Damn.
It was actually Tai Lung’s dream. Because Shifu never said he was destined for being the dragon warrior, he said he was destined for greatness. It then said that wasn’t enough for him and wanted the dragon warrior position so badly darkness consumed him. Does Shifu hold some responsibility? Yes, but not to the extent of Tai Lung becoming a villain. Tai Lung CHOSE that path himself
@@DallanRichey "Who filled my head with dreams? Who drove my training until my bones crushed? Who denied my destiny?" -Tai Lung's word.
As I mentioned before, Shifu's dream and not his. Which bring us to the moment where Oogway told him about his illusion of control. Shifu putted him through all hard training and wanted him to be the DW so bad that he didn't realized that this was Oogway decision and not his. This is clearly Oogway reminded him the last time that he tried to force someone into a path that it wasn't meant his.
100% only few people understand it, imagine the heartbreak when Shifu didn't even stand for him, Tai Lung was destined for greatness but Shifu was the reason why he turned out like this but still it was unintentional.
@@albinowolf8453 again that’s a perspective but that is also Tai Lung’s flawed perspective. As said in the movie, “Shifu told him he was destined for greatness. But it was never enough for him (Tai Lung), he eagerly sought for the dragon scroll.”
Shifu never told him he was destined to be the dragon warrior, Tai Lung dreamed it. Shifu put him through tough training as tough training is required by anyone to learn kung-fu. Shifu never said he was the dragon warrior
He did not force him on the path to lay waste to the valley for revenge, Tai Lung chose that himself. Again Shifu deserves some responsibility and he admitted it, Tai Lung becoming a villain was Tai Lung’s own choice, Shifu did not make him a villain
Man everybody getting their own joe rogan show and its just crazy
Yeah
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Tai Lung is not a Villain Po should have given him Dragon Warrior Role
Boe this is hilarious
But this guys perspective looks valid..
He's not an underrated villain. He's the best villain in the franchise. He made me love the movie
In my opinion is Lord Shen, because is the most realistic.
Lord Shen created a genocide.
Just run away whenever you hear a whistle
@@dhsf5937Lord Shen is the worst. He is an Hitler 2.0. and has no reason to kill people
@@dhsf5937boring villain tbh
I really think Tai Lung got played.😔
"You're in the council, but we do not grant you the rank of master "
“This is outrageous! It’s unfair! How can you be on the Council, and not be a Master?"
Reeal talk(iykyk)
"Take a seat, young Skywalker"
What angered Tai Lung the most was not being denied the scroll but his father not defending him!
Fr Shifu didn't even visit him in jail or nothing💀
When Oogway speaks, you stay quiet.
Bro he tried killing everyone in the room@0canofbeans_417
@@X31F what room??
@@Sun-Warrior1911 ... Surely you're joking...
Underrated villain? Everybody loves him
If anything he over rated
@@anouc3d550Nah, def under
@@anouc3d550reason?
@@anouc3d550 no he's not
@@anouc3d550 No hes not if anything hes the perfect villain cause he actually follows along the point of a real villain plotline instead of my “my parents died” or “it’s fun to kill.” Or “I just like being evil.” Tai Lung spent basically his entire life to achieve a goal that really wasn’t even his to begin with all for it to be rejected. If anything that would drive anyone to insanity.
'one often meets his destiny on the road it takes to avoid it'
yeah tai lung had plenty of occasions for being what he wanted to be and chose to be that way especially when shifu apologises
@@KSasciaLvi mean he practically lived through shifu so he basically was never going to see his destiny
Source:
There was no "dragon scroll". It was a test made by Oogway for Tai Lung. It doubled as a test of self-confidence (for Po). Shifu himself never even knew the scroll was blank!
Oogway saw the need for the test from the beginning. Shifu loved Tai Lung like a son, but he was also blinded by his pride. It fed Tai Lung's ego. So, Oogway made the test without telling Shifu its purpose.
Oogway died without changing the test. The scroll was always a test of humility for Tai Lung, but it was just a blank scroll. To Po, it just meant there was no "key" to being someone special.
Proof:
Oogway did NOT make the test to teach Tai Lung self-confidence!!! The whole reason for the test was because Shifu taught Tai Lung everything but humility! Oogway came up with the test during Tai Lung's training, and saw its true purpose after he chose Po, right before he died.
Damn how did i not know that??
@@Chips_is_him i just figure it out myself tbh. And I just now remembered Tigress telling Po about Tai Lung's origin. That scene just about confirms it for me but I think it's still technically a theory, since it didn't show Oogway place the scroll or anything
Makes sense..damn
Dgzbus
It does make sense because Tai Lung was hard working mastered a thousand scrolls and was trained in the Art of Kung Fu since childhood. Tai Lung was the closest candidate to the Dragon Warrior so it wouldn’t make sense if the reason was “there’s someone better than him.” It was likely that if Tai Lung accepted this and learned his lesson he would have completed his test and became the TRUE dragon warrior.
Whats sad about is that tai lung received a life imprisonment when all he did was rage thru the valley of peace he didn’t even killed or harmed anyone if wasn’t for the zeng he would totally die there in old age and shifu didn’t even bother visiting him not even once
I never thought about it like that, imagine twenty years of rotting away in prison and your father you worked tirelessly to make happy never visited or talked to you once since. I think it’d make anyone vengeful
What makes you think he didn’t kill anyone? I think he killed a ton of people to be sent to high security prison.
Tai lung definitely hurt people. He started ravaging around the valley and attacking inoccent families out of rage
@@henrioakit is vague it never stated he hurt or killed people during that
@@wolvesrevenge866 its never stated he killed perhaps, but you dont have to physically attack someone to hurt them of which Tai Lung did both
This would work, if not for two things:
He never wanted the role, he just wanted to make Shifu proud, it was Shifu not sticking up for him that caused him to go rogue.
Second, the way Shifu trained him was the problem, he used too much destruction!
Also Shifu was alsi his FATHER. Rotten children are the product of bad parenting. Then grow into bad Adults.
Shifus parenting was filling Tais head with dreams and a goal. Then push him day and night to master all the scrolls and techniques Shifu knew for that goal.
Shifu says it himself. "I have always been proud. It was my pride that blinded me to what you became. To what i was turning ylu into."
He never bothered instilling humility and other core lessons into his son. Only training and the glorious destiny at the end of the painful road.
Yea Tai Lung is one of those villains I’ve felt sorry for especially since his potential is so high and literally he got the Anakin Skywalker treatment to go with that. Po showed humility even when nobody including Shifu didn’t believe he was capable of being the dragon warrior and proved why Lung wasn’t the one. Still one of the best written villains in Dreamworks history
Po was raised humbly in a Noodle shop by a great dad. Teaching him the right values.
Tai Lung was pushed by Shifus ego to dedicate his entire life training for a great destiny. Never properly parent Tai.
Thats why they reacted so diffrent.
The humble man who comes to power values it
The one powerful from an early age whos entire life goal is to be the greatest will not.
which is why they made the tests go in reverse. find the most humble warrior that is constantly in a state of humility and have them learn everything they need.
I kinda agree. Before they were running for the title of "dragon warrior", both Po and Tai Lung were the best fighters (tai lung is, po comes later) and both of them were rejected. That was a test on how they will react to it. Tai Lung became furious while Po keeps his head up and continue to be better to be worthy of the title. Thats why Oogway chooses Po.
It’s also because Oogway saw the past present and future coming together because of Po.
He foresaw Po’s destiny to defeat Kai.
Po didn't wasn't imprisoned for years in an immobile position. So yeah, I'd imagine it's a lot easier for him to be levelheaded.
Po was tested to see his preserverance and determination.
He’s the best character in the hole series my favorite character
No he’s not
Not even close
He is cool tho but my favorite villain is Kai from Kung Fu Panda 3.
'The hole series' is tight!
@@sahilgondane7173 What's the hole series?
He's not a villain, he's an anti-hero.
He is a villain. This dude is NOT heroic.
@ThatRandomDude.mp4 I would agree with you. This series makes him a villain for sure. But if you really look at his actions, he's just an angry individual who lashed out from something that he believed was taken from him. That doesn't make him a villain, or if that's the case. Then all humans are we've all lashed out at some point.
@@cfh_doomed8879 I personally don't know many people who lashed out to a point where they destroyed and harmed of what could be hundreds of people. I see your point, but he still did something that is considered very evil and hasn't really done much good for atone for it. Or at least to a point where he'd be an anti-hero.
“Who denied me my DESTINY?!”
“Yourself”
Nah, it's shifu
It’s technically shifu for training him without morals
Shifu is the father. A fathers job is to instill morals and values. Prepairing the kid for adulthood.
Shifu failed him and turned him into what he was. His actions may have been his own, but his Father is the core issue.
I can't believe tigress didn't become the new dragon warrior in Kung Fu panda 4.
Why would she? She's arrogant mad clearly not the best fighter
@@Dpend84better then crane monkey viper and mantis but NOT po
Although he redeemed himself in the 4th movie and he understood who was the real dragonwarrior
Redeemed himself? Tf are you talking bout? It was shit writing and all he did was, for some reason, not beat the shit out of Po with the rest of the villains
If only. He didnt even get to talk to his father. Not even help defeat the Villan.
If they were smart you made the resolution to defeat a Villan made up of diffrent peoples abilities by overwhelming her. Utelizing all the villans to temporarily ate. Since its an enemy of my enemy situation.
But oh well.
Underrated bruh he is everyones favourite😂
Shen?
He’s my favourite. Tbh I hear people say Shen more than Tai Lung.
Literally been my favorite
Oogway knew Tai Lung wouldn’t be able to handle the truth about the dragon scroll. Whether he was chosen as the Dragon Warrior or not he would go absolutely crazy and destroy everything
Considering immediately after being directly told the secret of the scroll by Oo, he instantly tries to paralyze po
@@zikonrokarminrot636And that didn't even work and just tickled him, probably because of his inner peace. LMFAO
Layers of fat over his nerves you mean. 😂
Fact , master oogway said, ''otherwise''
Which meant he has what it takes but he lacks inner peace(humility)
Shifu taught him well but didn't teach him everything
😂😂😂wow very underrated comment
Suceeded as a kung fu instructor, failed as a father.
That's the lesson of Tai Lung and Shifu.
Tigres, same test different outcome. Totally underrated.
Taiung and tigress were complete opposites.
And we saw a backstory within the second movie somewhere
Tigress wasnt pushed or had her head filled with dreams since childhood. Shifu was very cold with her.
Thats why she never grew that ego. She slso had friends and social interactiions.
Not solitude and only training day and night for a gloriizs destiny.
I like this assessment of tai lung and that certainly makes sense. Even though Po was ultimately chosen as the dragon warrior instead of tai lung I can certainly see that master ugway wanted to see how he could handle rejection and could he rise up to quell that dark nature in his heart without letting it consume him.
it was not just that, he was also failed by Shifu not questioning Oogway directly it was a dual test... Tai Lung then failed the test cause even Shifu did not believe in him anymore... if Shifu still believed it would be okay
I always see Tai Lung as Chozen of Kung Fu Panda. He deserves a redemption
"Honk"
@@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm Honk
Wtf he deserved everything.He is the only 1 who deserves to be A Dragon Warrior.Only if they didn't deny him he would be the greatest.
No offense bro, but did you even watch the whole video through?
Kung fu panda through space and time: Time is messed up because Lung is not the dragon warrior so Po has to go back in time and try to convince him to take the scroll but understand why he wasn’t given the scroll and fight himself. The version of his evil self with his newly found self. His own match. And po is there to help him but he has to fight Lung to convince him and then fight with him. 😮
This... doesn't make sense at all
So what your saying is your own idea/concepts about future movie sequel, right ? 🙂
I really hope you don’t plan on becoming a writer for books or movies/shows😭
Or...have Shifu his FATHER parent. Its his job raising Tai to teach him morals and values.
There is the old saying. There are no bad students. Only bad teachers.
Shifus tale is that until KFP2 he is only good at teaching the physical aspects of the art. His first student and son is tge embodyment of that.
He pushed tai to ve the ultimate fighter, without traching him the spiritual or mental aspects you need along with it.
No Shaolin Monk would freak out like that. Only an individual whos head was filled with ego and dreams. With big goals. Bjt never been prepaired to be denied in the end. Or to be contempt with who you are.
He isn’t a villian, he wasn’t just the main character
Tai Lung went postal 😅..
The best villain of the kung-fu panda movies.
Tai Lung = Mandarin for "Too Cold" 太冷. Seems fitting for this cold MF
That was made him evil was that shifu was not on his side
In Kung Fu Panda 4 Tai Lung, Becomes Good Again & He Might Be The Next Dragon Warrior…
He’s a spirit in 4 so he’s technically dead
I mean if they came up with a finger hold that sends peoole inside the spirit world, i'm sure they can make up a chi reverse move to bring him back if they want to.
Kung fu panda writer : i didn’t knew that
Oogway forgot its called kung fu panda not kung fu kitty
Kung fu kitty?💀💀
Wdym Oogway remembered the title of movie
As much as I like the theory, I still not agree with it. Po was meant to be the Dragon Warrior since the beginning , long before any Master knew him. In the Third Movie Oogway said he saw the future of Kung Fu after seeing Po for the first time. And the legend of the Warrior in Black and White is also a Legend from a Past long ago.
Also the Fact that Po learned Kung Fu incredible fast and surpasses everyone in the Series in just Weeks or Months and all other Masters have to learn Kung Fu for Years proves it. When it comes to Tai Lung, they thought he would be the Dragon Warrior but they got proved wrong.
there is Evil in Tai Lung Heart, and ?Master Oogway see that. but it not totally Tai Lung fault since he do all his best for Impress Master Shifu. but he turn out to be anger and Shifu could not stop him.
Ironically though that’s not stated officially by Oogway obviously, I don’t think these guys actually mean what they’re talking about, but it’s not a bad theory
This is very interesting because Tai Lung is very strong. he can even single-handedly defeat "The Furious Five". If Tai Lung had given up the title of "Dragon Warrior", perhaps he would have become the "Leader" of "The Furious Five". become the Strongest "Master" on "Land".
the thing is that since the secret of the scroll is belief in oneself the moment shifu told him it was time to meet oogway he fully belived he was the dragon warrior and kept that belief while imprisoned up untill he got the scroll. there was no hidden secret, no font of power, nothing. he ruined his life for nothing.
The lesson of the Kung Fu Panda trilogy is that.. You are the master of your destiny: No one and nothing can come in between you and your destiny except you..
Im happy that they were still able to capture this man's absolute ferocity when he came back and beat up the lizard guards.
Underrated? He is the reason I have watched all kung Fu panda sequel, despite appearing in only the first one. Really love his vibe
Problem was Shifu himself didn't understand the last test by Oogway.
Shifu lied, gaslit, and spoiled his adopted son. Shifu didn't do that to his student, so Shifty treated his student better than his adopted son. Damn😢
He propably learned from that.
“Why can’t they take a hint?”
The hint:
I just like the fact that he showed respect to pull at the ending of the movie
Personally I believe he’s the best fighter out of everyone in the franchise
Tai Lung was dope af. Glad they brought him back.
"Their are no accidents" - Oogway
Had Shifu comforted him, or stood up for him, or said ANYTHING, Tai Lung wouldnt have snapped. Instead, he turned his back on him
The actual villain is Oogway. He made Tai and Kai evil
The narrator once said " master oogway sees darkness within him"
Tai Lung Was. A Literall *_BEAST_*
Tai Lung is my favorite Kung Fu Panda villain
"Dragon Warrior" was only ever a title. Tai Lung thought it was a direct power up. He gave up on the dream. Same with Tigress, who worked the hardest, only to give up on it when Po was chosen. I think the lesson was perseverance. Perseverance makes the dragon warrior.
I don't think he's underrated he's the most iconic villian of this franchise
The last sentence "He definitely an underrated villain in kung fu panda "
When realise 🥰🥰🗿🗿
Bro said Tai lung is "underated"😂😂😂 he is fucking loved by everyone because of his deep back story and well written character!!
He always has and will be my favourite character
That actually makes sense looking at it from that perspective. But what also was his downfall was Shifu not at least in his opinion, defending him. However you could argue that too was a part of those final test, as sometimes even those closest to you may not always have your back and you have to learn to adapt in that situation too, as horrible as may be, and he simply couldn’t. I think that’s also maybe why he didn’t understand when Po explained that the scroll has no hidden power or something it’s just a reflection of oneself, and Tia was so determined to achieve power and skill, he didn’t see this
"ALL I EVER DID, I DID TO MAKE YOU PROUD! NOW, TELL ME HOW PROUD YOU ARE, SHIFU! "
That was actually a theory I’ve been having in my head as I rewatched the movie recently. What if that was supposed to be a test all along and he had to prove he could earn the title of dragon warrior, and yet despite all he had been seeing this as a rejection and so all that followed in the movie then happened.
Man did everything to just re-explain that Tai lung wasn't meant to be dragon warrior.
Tai Lung is one of the main reasons why I love Kung Fu, it's honestly not even because of Pao 😅! It's really because of all the animal villains that the movies brought and even the shows. I wanted to watch the 4th Kung Fu Panda movie because I saw that Tai Lung was coming back, but I continued watching trailers and reading stuff about it. Because of what I found, I honestly might not watch the movie at all.
Tai Lung needs to be in Mortal Kombat
We need spin-off of redeemed Tai Lung finding power that could rival Dragon Warrior but for the good cost.
Huge character building
Tai lung never wanted to be a dragon warrior. He wanted shifu to be proud of him but when he saw shifu's face getting disappointed that snapped him into rage.
Underrated!? He's one of the best
It’s crazy that I just started reading a kung fu panda fanfic with tai lung as the mc and RUclips started suggesting kungfu panda shorts to me.
It makes sense because Po also had to face the fact that he could be the dragon warrior if he believed in himself and stopped doubting.
Whether Po realizes it, or not, he taught Tai Lung the secret to the Dragon Scroll. "There Is No Secret Ingredient. It's Just You."- Po
My favorite character i wish he was everything
" Everything I did I did to make you PROUD, TELL ME HOW PROUD YOU ARE SHIFU... TELL MEEEE!!!". Also when shifu apologizes you can see in tai lungs face that he wanted to accept but he was too far gone at that point.
How do you get these ideas ?😂😂😂
It actually the real reason crazy that these guys are not saying dumb things for ounce
@@Sorcerhoot*once
Seriously it's true how do they get the ideas
@@yoshizilla.Mp4 I feel like I am being corrected right now
@@Sorcerhootyeah, it’s because that’s what he did
Bro said head & shoulders the shampoo 💀
Oogway saw the kung fu by ancient panda's by teaching them to master a chi and thats why he choose PO to be the dragon warrior because of the past of ancient pandas and by the yin and yang but imagine what if tai lung was the dragon warrior he will definitely fight general kai.
Oogway's humility plan would've worked just fine if shifu actually stayed to comfort tai lung and not just walk away
Tai lung wasn't meant to be the dragon warrior, only shifu thought he would be the dragon warrior, but that's what made tai lung to get enraged and attack the valley, the person he looked upto and wanted to make proud didn't argue against oogway, he just accepted that tai lung wasn't the dragon warrior and didn't even try to comfort him, he just turned his back and walked away.
Tai lung didn't deserve what he got, he worked hard day after day to achieve a goal he never truly wanted, he was pressured into something he wasn't destined to achieve, and when he was denied, the one person who wanted it left him, then after having enough he broke and tried getting the scroll, which caused him to be locked away for many years, i don't think anyone even visited him, shifu actively tried to keep him there.
A Kung Fu Panda 4 re-write (my opinion):
Tai Lung becomes the dragon warrior, the rightful heir as he was meant to be. It comes full circle for him, Po, and Shifu. They all work together (along with the furious five) to stop the chameleon. A Darth Vader redemption arc for Tai Lung would have elevated the story so much more than what we got.
Meh nah I would’ve liked it if they did more to flush out why Tai Lung is all of sudden chill with Po
You would assume he’s been self reflecting while in the spirit realm, but he could’ve also had been as vengeful as Kai was
Also this doesn’t make sense cuz he’s meant to stay in the spirit realm… being dead and all
I find it funny how oogway already knew the dragon warrior was gonna be a panda tho due to him stating it in the 3rd movie
Kai is the underrated one.
He was a good character
“Underrated as fuck in my opinion “
"He's definitely an underrated villain in Kung-fu Panda"
Said no one ever.
Dude, Oogwai al ready said that when he saw Po he knew he was the one detined to become dragon warrior if it had been Tai Lung, Oogway would have saw him as the destined to become dragon warrior
Tai lung deserves more😢
He was locked away for 20 years and he never reflected everything and once thought why
He should have become the Dragon Warrior in KP4
To me, Tai Lung Was never mad about being denied the scroll, he was mad that Shifu never stuck by his side despite filling his head with hopeless dreams.
If he would've just been humble, we wouldn't be stuck with a goofy ahh panda who's mentally handicapped and is always falling on his face. Tai Lung would've been the Goku of their world.
Po is the Dragon Warrior as Oogway said in Kung Fu Panda 3.
He said Oogway saw the future of Kung Fu, and the past. That is why he chose Po as his right successor.
confirmed by a director of the first movie
The way he was defeated in the 4th movie was absolutely ridiculous tho, he went down way too easy.
Tia lung didn’t get upset because he was just denied dragon warrior but because his father shifo did nothing to try and stand up for him.
Honestly fair, enough, bro. Whatever we like to admit It or not He could have been mad about it sure But he took the his anger out on innocent people And destroyed everything It's on-site. We also need to remember. He wasn't Taught how to have humility or kindness. He was taught to be the best weapon there was. It's not His fault though. He was already adopted at a Kung Fu master By day one. I don't think he ever murdered anybody. Can somebody correct me if I'm wrong by that though?
our battle will be legendary
Or Tai Lung retained enough control at first to think this was what was going on, and it was his doing that that disappointed Shifu enough to see what he was becoming.
Also, I don't think Tai Lung needs a "redemption arc" per say, but having him return to the land of the living and defy all expectations by walking away peacefully would be appropriate. Bonus points if he says, "Farewell... Dragon Warrior" when he thinks no one else can hear him.
The prison escape scene was sick af
A lot of people, including with chosen one stories, think the chosen one is a title given.
It's not. Oogway wasn't giving The Dragon Warrior as a prize. It's more of a future vision and seeing who that is from within. Po could have gone to Oogway as a nobody, or fully trained, and he'd have said he was the Dragon Warrior either way.
And some random panda dropped out of sky.
Do y'all ignore the third movie or smnthn? 💀 Oogway explained why he choosed Po. Which cancels the possibility of anybody but Po being the dragon warrior.
I want to see someone make a reaction video about this like tai lung and every one realizes it was a test all along