I thought you get a great job! I hope you reconsider doing more videos! Yes it’s a shame it doesn’t do samples, it’s MIDI! It will play with Blackbox! I decided to go with the music 1010 Razmataz thru its own mixer. I would like to point out many consider the YamaD75 and the KAT Multipad but toys! Well the both hame MIDI, which makes them whatever yo want to do possible. For the prices I added 12 instruments to my Kat! The Yamaha Multipad12 is pro gear period. Everything else is a controller both through Kontact, the Multipad12, GarageBand, any DAW. That makes them pro gear! My system kicks ass!Peace brother!
So, are the kick and hihat triggers also separately assigned...meaning that you could use a total of 6 sounds, if you don't want to use the hihat pedal for the hihat? I could see setting up a closed hihat sound on one pad, then using the hihat pedal and kick pedal both for kick to get a double bass setup going. Then, you could have a snare and ride and crash, or snare, crash, tom.
Hello there. Unfortunately, I've never used the external triggers so I can't answer you for certain. I tend to believe it would work as you have described though.
Hello! Thank you very much for a great video! One question you. When I connect my KICK pedal, I can assign to it any sound - for example KICK, or SNARE, or SNAP etc. But when I connect my Hi-Hat Pedal, I am not able to change the sound of Hi-Hat pedal; it only sounds as Hi-Hat. Any ideas how can solve this issue? I would like to assign the sound of Clap to the the Hi-Hat pedal… Thanks a lot in advance!
You're welcome Cosmo! Thanks for stopping by. As to your question, I'm afraid I can't offer any insight on that. I don't use either a kick or hi-hat trigger. Sorry!
I was looking at a cheap one of these with the USB port broken. Could I still connect this to Ableton and use it in the same way you are to trigger samples via the Midi Out jack on the back? I get confused over old In/Out ports.
First off, I believe any decent computer repair guy could repair that USB port quite easily. Second, as long as your audio interface has a MIDI IN port, or you are using some sort of MIDI interface, it should be just fine. 😎🤘
@@zumazmusic I assume a Midi-to-USB cable might work as well. I know these are only $120 but right now but figured if I could save $60 it's probably worth it and just use the midi port. (and as you said, maybe resolder it).
@@oldowl4290 You have the right idea. I only recently started using MIDI devices over USB. These things work just fine with a straight MIDI connection, however, many of the newer audio interfaces no longer have native MIDI ports. Hence, one big reason why midi over USB is becoming so popular.
@@zumazmusic Yeah, a USB to Midi cable is ~$15 so if it works it works I guess. I would of course prefer straight to USB. My main thoughts about the old style cables is they seem to physically connect more secure than USB. I wish USB had some sort of pressable thumb lock. I always feel like the cables are too loose. And I have to assume others do too which is likely why the ports get broken sometimes.
@@oldowl4290 They can definitely be fragile. The new MIDI spec should be out relatively soon. We'll see what connectors they support. It seems like USB is here to stay though.
Currently, the KAT is about $120 and the Alesis Strike Multipad is about $700. It wouldn't be fair to compare them. I'd say if your needs are basic, just get the KAT. The KAT has a small amount of built-in sounds you can play and that's pretty much it. It's strength is integrating it, using MIDI, with your recording setup. The Strike is in an entirely different league.
Thanks for getting back to me I actually have the Kat it's nice and everything (bought it a week ago) but then you are limited to what you can do with it and then I said to myself maybe I'm better off getting the alesis sample pad pro.$315 or the strike pad or the Yamaha DTX 12.. yes I know they both $600-$700.. I was also looking at the handsonic hdp-20... now I'm going crazzzzzzzzzzy!
If I do return the Kat it's only because I thought it had a built in speaker and it was also battery operated then I would keep it for sure so I'm going to think about it may return it or keep it.. but either way I'll buy one of the other three ...!
Now that my friend was a DEMO! Great job thanks! - And what kind of bass and what strings on it do you use? Dude your bass playing is TIGHT! Sounded great! - I am trying to figure out what new strings to go with? Any tips for mellow-ish rock with maybe some punch in parts of it? I like to play the flat wound but am I missing out on the tapewound or should I just be playing rounds? Thanks again
Thank You LMBO! That was my Peavey Cirrus with a La Bella "Balanced" set, however, I recommend DR Sunbeams for you. It's my main set - balanced top to bottom with a great feel.
@@zumazmusic Wow I have a Cirrus bxp and even this cheap verson of the Cirrus sounds great! Thanks for the string info! And just ordered a KAT for myself, thanks to you! lol About to sub to your channel now! Take care and keep making that music!
One other question? - I have an old Boss br1600 recorder. If you know what I am talking about, do you know if I will be able to use the KAT midi and use the butt-load of drums the BR already has built into it? Or would I just be going in and recording the KATs sounds to selected tracks? Man any help you may provide will be greatly appreciated! Heck I am even going to sub if you take the time to push me in the right direction! XD Again thumbs up video!
From an SOS article the answer is a YES: Drum and bass patterns can be created by real-time recording, either from an attached MIDI keyboard or using the BR1600CD's track buttons. You can choose to have your recording quantised as you play it in, but there is no way to undo this, or to quantise a Pattern that's already been recorded.
I got this pad but I'm facing two problems I don't know if you can help me: 1. When I connect the MIDI suddenly after a few uses it shuts off completely and stops sending signal so I have to restart it. 2. The latency is noticeable in Ableton Live. Can you help me setting it up?
Assuming you have tried the latest drivers from Behringer, maybe give the ASIO4ALL drivers a try? Also, try MIDIOX to see if everything looks good there.
Great! Hope you're having fun with it. There isn't much to the MIDI setup. In Windows the driver is automatically installed. In your DAW, just leave your instrument track to "All" so it is looking for data on all 16 channels. Load in your virtual instrument on your track and play away! You may have to enable the record button to hear audio coming through from your virtual instrument. In the KAT pad itself, you only need to mess with the MIDI channels to change the "notes and/or drums" the pads play. These are not the same channels as the first 16 channels of MIDI in the main setup. Kinda confusing, I know. The channels that control the instrument SOUNDS are actually called TRACKS.
No problem at all! You could set all 4 pads to the same sound. Each pad works remarkably well at the edges, so no problem even if you hit it right in the center, where all 4 pads meet.
I think I have my pads set on "8" and that feels good to me. I would call that setting "medium". It's not too dynamic nor is it all one level. With MIDI though, it's only part of the puzzle. If you are recording to a DAW, the velocity can do funny things (too low, too high). Anyway, for just jamming I think you could adjust it to your liking quite easily.
@@zumazmusic So, when using Midi, can you play low and high volume ? I've checked the same with the Roland Pad and the Midi level ranges between 40- 100, can u do the same here?
@@tadmorguy I just hooked up my KAT to MIDI-OX so I could answer your question. The lowest velocity I can register is a 7, to a max of 127. That being said, it's pretty hard to consistently register anything that low. If you have great technique, you might be able to! When I hit a pad with a drumstick, I average a velocity of 70. The new MIDI 2.0 standard will allow for much more dynamics, so that is something to look forward to. Of course, such devices are barely trickling in so we'll have to wait and see how that pans out.
I think I hit the top right pad with my pinkie? Or, are you talking about the other cat that is meowing away in the background? She sure was giving me her back talk, probably for not feeding her enough. 😹😼🐒🐈
Of all the reviews I have watched, this has been the most informative. Thanks!
Thank you Ken! I appreciate that. 😎🥁
I bought this and use it as kick, toms, & Ride on my mini acoustic kit. And by the way, it works with Simmons KP1 Kick Drum Pad.
Does it?! Wow, that's great it works with the Simmons.
@@zumazmusic the kat kick trigger is a little expensive. So, i tried the Simmons which is half the price. Am glad they're compatible.
Dude your bass playing is Badass!
Thank You Jacob! I usually play bass here on RUclips. Please check out some of my other vids too.
If I didnt already have a Yamaha dd65 Id probably get one of these. Nice having the pedal inputs.
Great review! I would have liked to hear the drum track you made before adding the bass.
Thank you! I will try to dig the drum track out. Hopefully, I saved it! 🤪🎶
The best video I saw on this KAT!
Gracias Rodrigo! 😎🤘
I thought you get a great job! I hope you reconsider doing more videos! Yes it’s a shame it doesn’t do samples, it’s MIDI! It will play with Blackbox! I decided to go with the music 1010 Razmataz thru its own mixer. I would like to point out many consider the YamaD75 and the KAT Multipad but toys! Well the both hame MIDI, which makes them whatever yo want to do possible. For the prices I added 12 instruments to my Kat! The Yamaha Multipad12 is pro gear period. Everything else is a controller both through Kontact, the Multipad12, GarageBand, any DAW. That makes them pro gear! My system kicks ass!Peace brother!
I got this pesky thing called a day job! 🤪
And I also agree that the MIDI compatibility makes it "pro". It has never let me down and it's so easy to assign the pads to a MIDI channel.
So, are the kick and hihat triggers also separately assigned...meaning that you could use a total of 6 sounds, if you don't want to use the hihat pedal for the hihat? I could see setting up a closed hihat sound on one pad, then using the hihat pedal and kick pedal both for kick to get a double bass setup going. Then, you could have a snare and ride and crash, or snare, crash, tom.
Hello there. Unfortunately, I've never used the external triggers so I can't answer you for certain. I tend to believe it would work as you have described though.
I too am curious about this
Yes. 6 triggers.
Démo simple et claire, comme le produit :) génial merci !!
Awesome review ZumaZ! That’s one kool KAT you got there ;) Now I can go to sleep in peace.
Thank you brotha' Nelson!
Hello! Thank you very much for a great video!
One question you. When I connect my KICK pedal, I can assign to it any sound - for example KICK, or SNARE, or SNAP etc. But when I connect my Hi-Hat Pedal, I am not able to change the sound of Hi-Hat pedal; it only sounds as Hi-Hat.
Any ideas how can solve this issue? I would like to assign the sound of Clap to the the Hi-Hat pedal…
Thanks a lot in advance!
You're welcome Cosmo! Thanks for stopping by. As to your question, I'm afraid I can't offer any insight on that. I don't use either a kick or hi-hat trigger. Sorry!
@@zumazmusic in any case - thank you for your reply, and your content as well! Cheers
Lik'd and Sub'd you have an easy going way that is enjoyable to watch!
I really appreciate your comment! Thank you and Happy Friday 🥳🎶
I was looking at a cheap one of these with the USB port broken. Could I still connect this to Ableton and use it in the same way you are to trigger samples via the Midi Out jack on the back? I get confused over old In/Out ports.
First off, I believe any decent computer repair guy could repair that USB port quite easily. Second, as long as your audio interface has a MIDI IN port, or you are using some sort of MIDI interface, it should be just fine. 😎🤘
@@zumazmusic I assume a Midi-to-USB cable might work as well. I know these are only $120 but right now but figured if I could save $60 it's probably worth it and just use the midi port. (and as you said, maybe resolder it).
@@oldowl4290 You have the right idea. I only recently started using MIDI devices over USB. These things work just fine with a straight MIDI connection, however, many of the newer audio interfaces no longer have native MIDI ports. Hence, one big reason why midi over USB is becoming so popular.
@@zumazmusic Yeah, a USB to Midi cable is ~$15 so if it works it works I guess. I would of course prefer straight to USB. My main thoughts about the old style cables is they seem to physically connect more secure than USB. I wish USB had some sort of pressable thumb lock. I always feel like the cables are too loose. And I have to assume others do too which is likely why the ports get broken sometimes.
@@oldowl4290 They can definitely be fragile. The new MIDI spec should be out relatively soon. We'll see what connectors they support. It seems like USB is here to stay though.
I'm thinking of buying this but I also thinking of buying the alesis strike pad .. is it worth me buying the Kat?
Currently, the KAT is about $120 and the Alesis Strike Multipad is about $700. It wouldn't be fair to compare them. I'd say if your needs are basic, just get the KAT. The KAT has a small amount of built-in sounds you can play and that's pretty much it. It's strength is integrating it, using MIDI, with your recording setup. The Strike is in an entirely different league.
Thanks for getting back to me I actually have the Kat it's nice and everything (bought it a week ago) but then you are limited to what you can do with it and then I said to myself maybe I'm better off getting the alesis sample pad pro.$315 or the strike pad or the Yamaha DTX 12.. yes I know they both $600-$700.. I was also looking at the handsonic hdp-20... now I'm going crazzzzzzzzzzy!
@@east--westsounds5681 I feel your pain. You just got to have fun exploring all the options, while going crazy! 🐒🤪
If I do return the Kat it's only because I thought it had a built in speaker and it was also battery operated then I would keep it for sure so I'm going to think about it may return it or keep it.. but either way I'll buy one of the other three ...!
Good review.
Thank you Calvin 👍
Thanks
Now that my friend was a DEMO! Great job thanks! - And what kind of bass and what strings on it do you use? Dude your bass playing is TIGHT! Sounded great! - I am trying to figure out what new strings to go with? Any tips for mellow-ish rock with maybe some punch in parts of it? I like to play the flat wound but am I missing out on the tapewound or should I just be playing rounds?
Thanks again
Thank You LMBO! That was my Peavey Cirrus with a La Bella "Balanced" set, however, I recommend DR Sunbeams for you. It's my main set - balanced top to bottom with a great feel.
@@zumazmusic Wow I have a Cirrus bxp and even this cheap verson of the Cirrus sounds great! Thanks for the string info! And just ordered a KAT for myself, thanks to you! lol About to sub to your channel now!
Take care and keep making that music!
One other question? - I have an old Boss br1600 recorder. If you know what I am talking about, do you know if I will be able to use the KAT midi and use the butt-load of drums the BR already has built into it? Or would I just be going in and recording the KATs sounds to selected tracks? Man any help you may provide will be greatly appreciated! Heck I am even going to sub if you take the time to push me in the right direction! XD
Again thumbs up video!
My educated guess says yes, you can use the MIDI functions, however, let me look into it.
From an SOS article the answer is a YES: Drum and bass patterns can be created by real-time recording, either from an attached MIDI keyboard or using the BR1600CD's track buttons. You can choose to have your recording quantised as you play it in, but there is no way to undo this, or to quantise a Pattern that's already been recorded.
Your KAT pad would be the "MIDI keyboard" :)
@@zumazmusic Thanks soooooo much my friend!
@@zumazmusic Dumb question alert! What do you mean by, "quantise?" Sorry but I am having a hard time understanding this drum creation business.
thanks a lot man!!!!!
You're welcome! 😎
Cool gadget
i enjoyed your video
Hi, do you know if the settings are saved when you turn off the unit? Thanks!
Yes, anything you set on the KAT itself is retained between power cycles.
@@zumazmusic Thank you. Now I can order one 🙂
I got this pad but I'm facing two problems I don't know if you can help me:
1. When I connect the MIDI suddenly after a few uses it shuts off completely and stops sending signal so I have to restart it.
2. The latency is noticeable in Ableton Live.
Can you help me setting it up?
What is your audio interface?
@@zumazmusic I use uphoria HD202 from Behringer
Assuming you have tried the latest drivers from Behringer, maybe give the ASIO4ALL drivers a try? Also, try MIDIOX to see if everything looks good there.
@@zumazmusic ok I will try thank you
Can you make a video on how to set up the MIDI?
What DAW are you using? I'm only really familiar with ProTools.
actually i'm still looking for a good DAW, i just got my KTMP1 a week ago
Great! Hope you're having fun with it. There isn't much to the MIDI setup. In Windows the driver is automatically installed. In your DAW, just leave your instrument track to "All" so it is looking for data on all 16 channels. Load in your virtual instrument on your track and play away! You may have to enable the record button to hear audio coming through from your virtual instrument. In the KAT pad itself, you only need to mess with the MIDI channels to change the "notes and/or drums" the pads play. These are not the same channels as the first 16 channels of MIDI in the main setup. Kinda confusing, I know. The channels that control the instrument SOUNDS are actually called TRACKS.
Hi Shadow!
Rrrrrrmeeeoooooooow!
can it be used as a single snare ? what happens if you hits at the midle area ?
No problem at all! You could set all 4 pads to the same sound. Each pad works remarkably well at the edges, so no problem even if you hit it right in the center, where all 4 pads meet.
What model bass is that?
Peavey Cirrus 5, bolt-on
Subbed! ZUMAZMUSIC can rock that freakin bass for sure! XDD
With the tuning, how close to an actual note can you get since it's not a fluid sweeping knob?
Interesting question. What sound(s) are you interested in tuning that closely?
Can u tell me your impression about how sentive is about the velocity??
I think I have my pads set on "8" and that feels good to me. I would call that setting "medium". It's not too dynamic nor is it all one level. With MIDI though, it's only part of the puzzle. If you are recording to a DAW, the velocity can do funny things (too low, too high). Anyway, for just jamming I think you could adjust it to your liking quite easily.
@@zumazmusic So, when using Midi, can you play low and high volume ? I've checked the same with the Roland Pad and the Midi level ranges between 40- 100, can u do the same here?
@@tadmorguy I just hooked up my KAT to MIDI-OX so I could answer your question. The lowest velocity I can register is a 7, to a max of 127. That being said, it's pretty hard to consistently register anything that low. If you have great technique, you might be able to! When I hit a pad with a drumstick, I average a velocity of 70. The new MIDI 2.0 standard will allow for much more dynamics, so that is something to look forward to. Of course, such devices are barely trickling in so we'll have to wait and see how that pans out.
@@zumazmusic Many thanks for this, just wanted to know technically the levels that can be produced. Probably will not use the entire range.
@@tadmorguy 😎👍
What software are you using on your computer?
Pro Tools, however, you can use most any DAW these days. They're all pretty good.
Try the Yamaha Dtx m12
Looks pretty cool. Would love to try one. Quite expensive at about $500 used, though. It's in a much different league than the KAT.
Was that some cross talk at 6:38?
I think I hit the top right pad with my pinkie? Or, are you talking about the other cat that is meowing away in the background? She sure was giving me her back talk, probably for not feeding her enough. 😹😼🐒🐈
Mi Simmos kick pad would not work with mine
Bummer 😞