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6 Advanced Sci-fi Civilisations Too Stupid To Really Exist (Part 1)
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Maybe intelligent life is so rare, all these different militarized invasion aliens are used to fighting dumb animals like gorillas, lions, sharks, and dinosaurs. They are used to just showing up and blasting crap. Their strategy may have been successful for well over 100 million years and allowed them to conquer half the galaxy. Millions of inhabited planets. Maybe they fucked up and scanned the Congo.
All I have to say is a lot of people think that the BoLA aliens were actually fighting a war that they were losing so they came here to fight us. So they aren’t actually the stronger alien race and might be super weak. Just saying
i have a question
is the human race in your title 😉
Can you do skynet fro the terminator franchise?
The humans in Avatar aren't mining for profit it's more survival hence the high value.
It always bugs me that aliens never have any handrails or banisters on their walkways or stairs. That's just asking for a work-related injury.
True
same with star wars: deathstar hallways and catwalks. if you slipped, you would fall to your death. OSHA would have a field day with these engineers.
maybe we are the clumsy shit of the galaxy
“Psh. Whatcha mean? It’s totally okay to not have a banister or rail... our staircases are always 50-70 feet wide. And very long... with sloped sides. Some use it for a quick way down!”
That’s giving me an idea actually...
@Makchu Cook Not always. Take a look at a few species in any long-running sci-fi license. There's a whole lot that are dumber than humans.
"What kind empire is motivated by money?"
The East India Company would like to provide a most gentlemanly retort to your aforementioned assertion my good sir.
I think he is point was intended to be ironic, in that an empire revolving around that is prone to implosion or inability to progress beyond a certain point, thus unable to become advanced enough explore space.
@@ShiningEternity It is true in a different sense IMO. As technology & political organisation improves the cost of war between equally advanced opponents increases relative to the amount that may be gained through plunder & extortion, so fighting wars for money makes less and less sense.
Not to mention King Leopold and Belgium at the time. He brain farted on this one.
The USA today is being run that way. And the world is dying because of it.
@@129das 😰 I’m afraid you’re right.
"What kind of self-respecting invaders are motivated by profit?"
Is this a joke?
@Deimos Cain every invasion is motivated by profit
@@thisnametooktolong Oh, criminy! Another Breitbart genius! :D
@@failedsample-astra
So you are a stupid idiot
@@veralenora4033 that would be boring as hell.
Man, imagine, the movie mostly filled with routines like cleaning gears, sleeping, sitting, filling mags, and both grunts and logistics yelling at each other. I don't think alien side will be any different.
Also, the fight probabbly not as flashy. Probably filled mostly by confused guys trying to find charlie's positio while probably firing several single shots at firer's general direction on 200m distance +-.
@@thisnametooktolong
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you forgot zod... trying to change earth in to new krypton when mars is perfectly fine.
London Parkour Project LMFAO! He could have terra formed Mar, Venus, a bunch of the moons of Jupiter. 😂😂😂
Yeah, try a planet that isn’t already occupied or requiring extensive terraforming!
They were out of jumps for their ship, and they considered humans to be worthless. If you had planned to build a house, brought all the materials to the location, and then saw an ant hill right on top of it, would you move elsewhere?
@@EroticOnion23 Wouldn't Zod's spaceship have like a navigational tech were it sense or scans planets if its good to live on or not or if there are other lifeforms?
Don’t blame him. Blame the moronic writers.
In avatar it's not humanity itself which is invading, but a mining company protected by a mercenary army far from the jurisdiction or oversight of earth bound organizations. Not the most "moral" entities in...
OH MY GOD WHAT IF THATS WHAT THE OTHER ALIEN INVADERS ARE!? what if the battle for Los Angeles aliens aren't an invading army, but some kinda water-collection company with an army of thr cheapest drones money can buy.
Well I guess money is a good motivator for any species, that and OIL
Brv, who the fuck its avatar?
Daniel Mardley Did you not even watch the video?
The British East India Company was working under the auspices and charter of the British Royal Monarchy
@@JohnSmith-eo5sp And we all know the British Monarchy has absolutely no history of greed, corruption, and genocide....
The reason the Engineers were so inept is because the movie completely ignored just about every logical and well thought out action and plot point from the original script for Aliens: Engineers (which was the base for both Prometheus and Covenant). In the original script, everyone and everything made sense. The scientists and colonials actually behaved as you would expect people with extensive space operations and scientific training would. But instead, Ridley Scott decided he was going to rework and bastardize the script so he could make that Space God movie he's always wanted. And then doubled down on the idiocy in Covenant.
BINGO!
the movie was a joke. I wish I could be there when they screened it just to hear what they had to say about it
'covenant'?
like, the halo [Grape]'s and galaxy's 'covenant'?
“Discovered sentient life and want to destroy it.”
The emperor wields it, man.
Um...Excuse Me? H.R. Geiger? Um these blueprints you've sent me aren't really what I asked for, I don't even see any toilets around.
Oh, no. No toilets, we use the tubes now. All the tubes.
I thought The Engineers had gloomy dark ships because they're like creature of the dark. They have pasty white skin and huge black eyes like something that lives in darkness.
Yes, can be. You at least think about it. The author of the video is lazy.
Space emo's
@BalF the planet where David releases the black goo to kill the "engineers" is actually confirmed not to be the engineer home planet, bur rather a colony planet of the engineer's predecessors
@@harunisjohn3783 and damn right ye the author of the video is lazy
@@Wifi_Thief Yep, the author is drawing conclusions based on....whatever he feels like, he doesn't even say that much! Indeed, lazy!
Unobtainium, on the periodic table between Cantfindium and Wheredidileavemykeysium. #Weebl
Combat King 0 xD
Where's the Remotecontrolium, then?
+Leirbag15 Your girlfriend has it, of course. Duh!
I know this comment is 6 months old but just to clarify: unobtanium is actual mining jargon for very valuable but trace elements.
+ Exnihilo Adnihilum
That's one point. Another one is that I've watched that film several times and there was never, ever, any mention about that rock being fuel for their spaceships... for all we know, exactly - it's some rare fkin mineral, but its true nature or purpose for humanity is not disclosed anywhere in the film.
What bothers me the most about Avatar is that they didn’t have to choose the God Tree for mining. They stated that there’s Unobtanium everywhere, and they could have mined literally anywhere else (the moon is similar in size to Earth, but they had to choose the one single location that would cause environmental collapse). There were mountains of the stuff and I’m sure the Navi would be fine with them mining on the dozens of similar locations. It’s like if you needed a few mins of dirt and instead of going to the countryside you attempt to blow up downtown New York because you can’t be bothered to walk a few kilometres.
Hi, your local Avatar enthusiast.
The Na'vi made it their point that they wanted their land to not be messed with. That includes anywhere in Pandora. Also, the reason RDA went to hometree was because it was essentially "the goldmine" of Unobtanium. It was filled with it. That's why Quaritch chose it.
Just the word UNOBTANIUM... LOL! Soooo bad! unobtainable. Cameron, you are a cabbage!
So if they went like 2000 miles away and set up shop they'd still know? No,it doesn't make sense.@@namesaredumbstanselena.2111
The laser in the egg room was supposed to be some form of energy field that preserves the integrity of the eggs. Even despite the Xeno’s slightly more artificial exoskeletal appearance, we can assume the eggs probably begin to rot after a few centuries, so that’s why they had that blue colored laser projected stasis field.
That laser was made from equipment borrowed from the rock band The Who.
The foggy interiors may also be a method to slow decay and prevent them from waking up
The humans in Avatar are pretty bloody dense.
Why bother sending ground troops at all, when you can just drop rocks from orbit and then mine the lifeless surface that remains?
You are presuming that the unobtanium mining company bothered to tell anyone back on Earth that it wasn't a blasted, lifeless rock to start with.
Yup it's kind of hinted that the inhabitants of the earth knew about the existence of the Navi, since why would they recruit earth scientists to come to Pandora if they were trying to keep it a secret, far to many potential information leaks
i was thinking the same thing, like a giant rod that dropped onto the world and would be almost like an asteriod hitting the planet. it isnt far fetched as plans for such a weapon have been circulating for a couple years now. its not radioactive, and all it does is use gravity as a weapon allowing safe mining operations once all the Navi were eliminated.
genocidal bastards
Jeff NME same as why you wouldn't nuke them.
Such a destructive weapon probably would destroy the very unibtainium that the humans are after in the first place
>why don't the sky people just find a rock where they don't have to commit genocide
yeah but where's the fun in that?
A Baby Ate My Dingo the humans did not want to commit genocide in avatar they wanted to peacefully ask the natives to mine a rare metal but jake didnt bother asking the main villian in that movie was the main character
we cant make a movie without a genocide or two or where can we complain about muh colonialism!
Do you think that the human race would need Unobtainium if they could find another power source? The humans in Avatar are on their last ropes. Also, the reason the humans in Avatar don't use bunker busters is that someone is going to have to mop up any resistance that is left after the initial barrage, not to mention that drones are precision instruments that are only useful against specific targets.
If they're on their last ropes and THAT was what they threw at the problem, then the human race deserves extinction. :P
It was an entertaining movie, but not a very smart one.
Why don't we just build giant space colonies? Zieg zeon!!
Being ex military, I liked "Battle Los Angeles" for exactly what it was. It was a gratuitous mental turn-on for those with penchants for guns, chain of command, and superiority. Note: Not specifically for civilian consumption.
Also, no. No sequel. Not needed, as DVD's can restart almost instantly.
Perfectly accurate video!
The Engineers seem to be multifarious. It's like there are at least two factions working against each other, and keeping secrets from each other. It seems like the group depicted in Prometheus wanted to make sure once humans got interstellar travel, one of the first places we went was to them, so they could then make some decision, or enact some plan. Thanks to their disaster, whatever they were up to failed.
If movie aliens were capable of interstellar travel and also competent, it would not make for much of a movie.
The script would be something like this:
Exterior. Night. Two teens stargazing.
Teen 1: "Hey, what's tha..."
THE END.
Ain't that the truth!
Any alien species with the technology necessary to invade another planet and the temperament to do so with the intent of exterminating the inhabitants would certainly possess the capacity and the likely willingness to do so from the comfort and safety of a great astronomical distance through the deployment of a simple relativistic weapon.
Any sufficiently advanced alien species would have a greater incentive to protect our species for their own biodiversity agenda. Mass extinction would be the least likely outcome of such an invasion, IMO. Unless they know many species similar to us, they'd probably want to learn everything about us. Probably would strap most of us into the Matrix and keep us there until they need us for organ research. But yeah, in any case we wouldn't see them coming.
The singularity hitting is going to be awesome. Any time soon, AI stuff is getting super close to feeling like a mind could emerge. It's going to be crazy what happens ;D
Yeah..........someone needs to explain to this anal retentive what science FICTION means. I'm guessing he got his sci-fi dvds mixed in with his Blue Planet and other documentaries.
There's a few examples of competent alien invaders. Independence Day did it well - we only won because we had an old crashed ship of theirs that we managed to get running again. It also makes sense for them not to have antivirus software, at least on the level of infiltration the virus was installed. They're a hivemind. They don't have to worry about others of their own kind doing anything untoward. It was apparently not possible to upload the virus wirelessly, so they do have protection on their networks, just not at the "literally plugged into the mothership's main computer" level. We only beat them by pure dumb luck.
Mass Effect's Reapers are another good example. Yeah, some crazy shit happens to them in the trilogy, but this is the law of averages catching up with them after over a billion years of harvesting the entire galaxy. EVERYTHING went wrong for them, most of it in unpredictably bullshit ways like Shepard running across a hidden Prothean AI that had the keys to unlock the relay network. In a normal scenario, they utterly obliterate everything and humanity would've been no different.
Why aren't the ''Sky People'',in Avatar,bombarding the planet from orbit.Hell,drop a couple of nukes at that magic tree,from orbit and be done with it.
That would be racist.
Luca Fuoco Who gives a flying fuck about the Na'vi,nuke those blue treehuggers, make Pandora great again!!
1 word . . . radiation
Afallon Imaging 2 words:enviromental suits.
So not only do you have to ship the mining equipment, habitation modules, and personnel, you have to send the environmental suits, maintenance supplies for them, specialized personnel to maintain them, training for ALL personnel on there use, supplies and equipment to treat for radiation poisoning, and redesign of equipment and protocol for use in environmental suits. Its isn't a simple and just use environmental suits, it would cost trillions of more dollars to mine the minerals, not to mention that the nuclear detonation could contaminate the ore and make it radioactive its self.
“Profit lost is the only language these creatures understand “ lmfao
That sounds more like commentary on human civilization to me.
Isnt that 100% true tho at least on a collective level. Individuals of course act differently.
I love your take on Battle: Los Angeles. I enjoyed it as an action movie and got nothing to gain or lose from it's "patriotic values" because I'm not American, but I do see the parallels to the Iraq War scenery now with your additions. The marines even wear the same desert MARPAT uniforms even though they're in the US, lol.
So actually the western half of the US including L.A. is desert, I lived in las vegas, and soldiers there wore desert camouflage
@@themanimal369 Desert Camo, specifically digital desert camo has been the default BDU design since around 2004, even stateside. Because we just weren't fighting anywhere with foliage. Other types could obviously be obtained if you are posted in Korea or something. Not sure if that's changed again since then, I've been out for a while.
Honestly ive never seen the movie but it literally looks like a video game concept that was turned into a movie by accident.
@@Kris-wo4pj yeah pretty much. You'd be surprised to find out Michael Bay had nothing to to with it. I just enjoy it as an action flick, and nothing more
I recognized Marine Corps recruitment propaganda when I saw it. The entire movie is an ad. I say this having been in said military branch.
I always assumed the Battle LA Aliens were more akin to intergalactic Somali Pirates XD
Ino Koludrovic yes. your right
It is a mystery how they made it that far...
That actually makes a lot of sense.
marklvrd Dude, Somali pirates tend to last right up until they run into a boat capable of fighting back. Even a cargo ship with a rack of automatic weapons for the security team can easily repel them.
I had this exact same theory.
i disagree with the profit part. profit is the basis for all exploration and invasion. we kill for minerals in starcraft
It's what brought more people to the Americas and slaughtering the natives. Gold. Fur.
Word...
hell every single human major exploration of an new world that change the course of history was because of profit
Yeah, but it is highly unlikely that such a civilisation would not destroy itself before reaching the technological level needed for interstellar travel.
And Human nations like America and others kill for oil. So... its a deal. :)
You missed the alien invaders in Mel Gibson's "Signs". These creatures were so dumb that invaded a planet whose surface had 75% of a liquid capable of melting them (water). Also, they managed interstelar travel but couldnt open wooden doors
That one should be mandatory on every "dumb" list.
And why didn't the moisture in the air burn their eyes and flesh?
i died at "only coming out at night to hunt lizards and shank people for oil"
OMG a biological outbreak... Quickly, let's go to sleep!! Lmao!
I know lots of people who handle problems that way
@@stara_garda_3 Fools! Everyone knows you should just dance your problems away.
@@mikeoxlong1395
Amatuer. You just nuke the hell out of your problems.
Zombie outbreak? Nuke.
Low on water? Nuke.
Cant get inside your own house? Nuke.
Its so simple.
Oh wait, it might as well be a horrible idea.
@BalF Out of toilet paper? Nuke!
"oh there's corona outbreak, let's have a sleep"
I sure hope this series addresses the "advanced" human civilization in "Starship Troopers." Despite all the advanced weaponry and tactics, these guys make the kind of mistakes that were eliminated by the end of World War I.
Starship Troopers, at least the movie, is a satire of war and propaganda movies. (The original novel isn't, though. That was the director's idea, I believe.)
But that means that, at least in the movie, terrible leadership and tactics are probably intentional. The humans aren't supposed to look good.
As far as i understood it, the whole war was pretty much "to keep the folks busy"
if the goverment really wanted to wipe out the bugs all they would have to do is to drop those marauder combat suits and it would be pretty much genocide level of pest control. with a loooot of fireworks and zero casualties among the squad (yes the suits are that OP)
The director didn't even read thw whole book. The movie is a fucking joke and people think it's a smart critic. The book is great tho. Would recommend. Seriously. I think I never saw a movie being that bad in comparison with a book
Read the novel. The movie not only didn't do it justice, it had no respect for the themes of civil responsibility that were put forth in the novel. Not to mention, the troopers were way more badass.
Queen of the Damned, the book and movie share very little similarity
In avatar not only is the invading force a mining company with a private military/mercenary group protection them
Secondly there's a canonical reason they couldn't send drones in the final sequence. The area had make electronic interference meaning everything needed to be line of sight and piloted in person
need line of sight transmission? Simple solution. Send thousands of signal repeater drones from transmitting station to receiving unit(s). Line them up 3 units at a node for redundancy. It's the same concept with today's cellular technology.
@@serrasalmusgeryi2051 that while a sound idea would be very expensive to produce considering how long of a stretch that area was, also consider that this mining operation led by a greedy CEO looking to commit genocide to make money would try to cut corners it makes sense
@@JihadouKwantu 'In avatar not only is the invading force a mining company with a private military/mercenary group prote-'.
exactly. like, *What? (**13:18**).*
'who says that the ones (the combat section of Humankind there) sent over to that Blasted moon are a 'military'? *(**13:28**).*
come on, people.' - me. somewhere here on this video's comment section, (05/16/2023).
I agree.
@@JihadouKwantu 'Secondly there's a canonical reason-'.
yes I remember. But-
'-they couldn't send drones in the fina-'.*
-putting aside of them (our avatar reality's counterparts there at the time. and fairly, you know, their interstellar stricting regulations of the types of combat-based stuff that those operating on the avatar reality's version of Alpha Centauri A can only bring (that I last remembered somewhere in avatar Humanity-related wiki info). so no. no hunter killer-type drones, etc my fellow Human faction-fans) not first thinking about orbital drones with attached long-ranged warheads in them instead. *well, Typical writers of james cameron's direction, yes?*
(of course, even if the Realistic consideration was there, well....'shorter movie', right? as party-poopers would say.
and it would be obviously a Humankind victory if the developers of avatar franchise would continuously portray our counterparts there to not keep holding back. like that part during the hometree relocation objective scene).
er, anyways. *if ever the FAS Swarm would have been sent over against that Little army of the Traitor's and that gaiaform's instead....
(yeah....that would be overkill).
@@serrasalmusgeryi2051 it took around 5 years for the ships to reach pandora so humans couldnt have gotten enough drones in time
our civilization eats tide pods. can there really be a "too stupid" when you take that into consideration. lmao
Yes. Cause the people who eat Tide pods are obviously evolutionary dead ends lol.
A few stupid kids doesn’t equal “our civilization”. There were 83 reports of ingesting detergent. Compare that to over 73,000 people accidentally shooting themselves each year, or the hundreds of thousands injured by texting and driving. I’d say that’s a bigger “too stupid” problem
@@jimbutke getting shot by accident and dying while texting and driving are way worse.
Does “our civilization” eat tide pods or was it just a few idiots then some other idiots attribute it to us all ? See what I did there , you an idiot is what I’m sayin
And they do any drugs to look cool so ya they stupid too 😂
"What kind of self-respecting invaders are motivated by profit?" The British Empire?
all of the imperialists tbh, British French Dutch German Spanish Portuguese Italian, did i miss any? the Spanish galleons are still being found with lots of gold on board, sunk by privateers, aka pirates with permission to atk 1 faction's enemies
@@CorvusCorone68 USA
@@carlov3709 US hasn't invaded anyone....invasion means taking over a country and claiming it's land for your own...US to date has never claimed any land in WW2 Germany, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq etc....in fact in America, there has always been and is, debates on withdrawing US military from any US occupied region(s) and hand back control to the people govt of the land....unless of course the US military is invited long term by a host nation (in case you are going to bring up the 800 military bases)..
@@ameyas7726 , eh usa did invade the land they live in ?
Any human wanting what is next door. Even now when we explore we are looking to see if there is some where we can colonize and what resources we may be able to exploit.
"What sort of invaders are motivated by profit..." Aaa.. Like, all of them?
"Wars are moral contests and they're won in the temples before they're ever fought" (Sun Tsu)
Even when wars are fought for profit alone, who wage them never says that they are fought for profit alone. Mostly to himself. Other motivations are taken as the sole motivations.
none, resources and territory are scares on earth but both are endless in the galaxy, if you are advanced enough to colonize space and mine asteroids etc. it would make as much sense to fight and invade anybody for resources as selling ice to penguins in antarctica
The British Empire had access to the vast natural wealth of Australia, Africa, the Middle East, Far East, India and for a time America, they still tried to take over China. Sometimes the motivation is simply that it's there and they don't own it.
@RedGunBullets
Yes, because one extremely valuable resource is the exact same thing as one low value resource and one extremely valuable habitat is of the same value as one extremely valueless habitat.
You have all the cognitive depth of a 4 year old.
@fix0the0spade
They didn't try to "take-over" China, they tried to subjugate it(there's a difference), and the reason they did that was because the opium trade was extremely important for the British economy. Britain was in a bad spot at the time and selling in China would've netted them an insanely high benefit(which it did). Once again, just because you have one of one doesn't mean you have one of the other.
Cognitive depth of a 4 year old.
@Neutron Alchemist
That's certainly what you tell everyone else, the reality is that wars are, least of all, about morality and most of all about power and wealth. The "moral argument" simply means whoever wins is right(most of the time).
all invasions are motivated by profit. Whether it is for a single resource on a planet or exploiting many available resources on a planet depends on why they invade... An invader looking to move people to a habitable world will have different approach and goals than an invader that only wants to exploit a single resource. What we saw was a company wanting to exploit a single resource. there are many types of resources in Pandora, but the company is making huge profits with that single commodity. Why bother developing other resources on Pandora that might be profitable over the mining of a resource that IS profitable. We see it on earth now. Corporations put short term profits over long-term effect that their practices have on people or the environment.
these aliens make my simpleplanes vehicles look like god magic
5:02 Honestly, I appreciated that movie because I'm always kind of annoyed so many alien invasion movies show human weapons to be ineffective and yet if there's one thing history has proven beyond a doubt, it's that we hairless apes are far better at war and making weapons than we need to be, in reality, we'd probably do pretty well against an invasion.... until they nuked us from orbit
What if we nuke the nuke?
@@aldolibreri791 wouldnt debris and nuclear waste end up just floating around in earth?
@@yoongitrash2699 we nuke those too
Uh, no we won't. Tell me. What will we do against a barrage of asteroids heading our way? Ok, we nuke the first couple hundred out of orbit then what? And what do you do if the aliens decide to send in a asteroid the size of a small country towards earth?
We are effective at warfare no doubt, but we'd be fucked if a alien species decides to invade us.
@@siyzerix Well except the only value Earth has over any other planet or asteroid is 1. Life and 2. It's atmosphere that supports said life. Both of which would be utterly destroyed by such an attack, so what would even the point for the aliens?
Video summed up thusly - Bad writing by unimaginative humans
MrMicronano > ..and lots of bad CGI.
In the case of 'Prometheus', they were trying to retcon two franchises into one. I like the xenomorphs better on their own, with unknown origins.
My first impression was that the dead pilot in the first movie was a victim of the xenomorphs after they got onto the ship. They succeeded in created extraterrestrials that didn't look like rubber-forehead aliens in sets recycled from various 1950s movies.
The alien race in "Battleship" were a stupid concept.
riproar11 that whole fucking movie was stupid...
Weirdly, it makes sense. The whole movie is about misunderstanding each other. In the expanded story they were actually refugees fleeing their original homeworld. They didn't attack first, merely crash landed. They only opened fire when the Humans threatened them, and often ceased firing when it was clear they were retreating.
Also they are clearly not a fully militarised force. Some of them are soldiers or guards of some form, but most seem to be engineers or miners of some kind. There's even a scene where one of them comes face to face with the wounded soldier and runs away from him in terror. They seize the communication satellite to send a message back home because the ship they crashed had their long range transmitter.
Context changed the movie for me. Made the Humans look like utter xenophobic assholes. Which we are, to be brutally honest.
@@andromidius Real Life:Then it is justified to let you all alone till I die.
It should be noted that the enemies in the avengers were pointed out to be a terrible race in endgame
It was still a dumb cliche with how they were beaten at the end of the first avengers. I also did not like the evil army at the end of end game but at least side characters had something to do.
No, Avatar is not a retelling of Phocohontas, it is a retelling of Ferngully, the last rainforest.
its Dances with Wolves
I liked Battle Los Angeles I didn't really care about how stupid the aliens were, I just like action-packed films
Osama Bin Laden Osama Bean Laden?
Osama Bin Laden so it is it the explosions you like or the flying objects
Didn't you die?
Find a building to fly into
It's Just showing heroic US troops which are non existent. Bleh
These are all excellent points. I'd suggest, though, that the "stupid aliens" trope is pretty much inevitable, since any civilisation smart and powerful enough to travel all the way to earth to subdue us would be able to squash us all like bugs, which would make for a very short movie indeed! Hence the scriptwriters' need to cut corners to make a sci fi film watchable in the first place. The same goes for the ridiculous marksmanship of the Stormtroopers in the first Star Wars film, let alone in any of the others. If the Stormtroopers had any idea how to handle their weapons, "A New Hope" would have been over in about five minutes max.
They intentionally let Luke, Han and Leia escape.
OMG, I'm not even 4 minutes in and this is so funny.
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From what I remember, the Battle for LA aliens are actually a Merc Company controlled by a Alien Corporation that tried illegally mining our planet for its Water. After the battle their actual Government found out about it and showed up and ran them off and opened Peace Accords with Earth.
You made that up,didn't you?
The Klingons would get the grand prize. An interstellar species with next to zero interest in tech. They're like space cavemen.
They use Geico
I don’t know much about Star Trek, but don’t the Klingons have spaceships that can turn invisible? That’s quite a feat for a species with zero interest in tech.
@@bravediomedes217 The Klingons were given their cloak by the Romulans. I wouldnt say they have zero interest in tech as such, but they do view anyone who isnt a soldier with contempt, and they have very few scientists within their own culture. Most of their tech is taken from defeated species, or invented by non Klingons who live within the empire.
I’d say they are more like Space Vikings. Honor based, single combat. Stovokor aka Klingon Heaven is basically Valhalla.
@@bravediomedes217 They do, but they got that tech from the Romulans. So did the Federation, but they don't use it for some dumb reason or other.
Stop, stop, stop. Your view of Avatar is way off. The first big thing is that it is not a human invasion force on pandora, its a corporation digging for superconductor minerals. 2. There is no military force, its a bunch of mercs on company payroll. 3. They know what they are doing is not going to go well on earth once word gets back but the colonel is willing to shoulder the blame and Parker figures the money involved will buy them forgiveness. This film showcases the depths of corporate greed and not the faillings of the human species.
The Avatar human's Earth is controlled by a corporate oligarchy with highly diminished governments. The RDA were granted permission to invade Pandora by an international trade commission. The Avatar humans we see are very typical examples of their species. Jake went all these years being denied a treatment to cure his paralysis, it really doesn't seem like things are that peachy back home.
Or Trump got re-elected.
The Avatar humans are still 1000 times more compitent than the NAVI and are only restrained from being competent by James Camerons self insert OC furry fantasy. it's clear given the restrictions public opinion creates on them that Earth is actually far more democratic than the movie claims, since literally anyy competent mercenary group would just nuke the planet from orbit were it an actual corporate oligarchy on earth. the only reason humans lose in avatar is because of Human Hippies having too much power.
Tancread of Galilee "self insert OC furry fantasy"
that's... oddly specific.
According to wiki, the trade commission that granted them the rights to invade, also forbid them from using WMDs. They're obviously trying to kid themselves about their warped morality. So nukes are out, but drones and tomahawks still could have been a go.
Enginneers
1. They can't control their weapons of mass destruction. 0:57
2. They show us the location of their key weapons facility. 3:06
3. Their organisational structure sucks. 4:18
Aliens of Battle Los Angeles (BLAA)
1. Their tactics and military technology are lacking. 6:24
2. They're engineered to be inadequated. 8:02
3. They start risky wars to get water. 9:50
Avatar
1. Profit is their only motivation. 11:28
2. Their military are inadequated and reckless. 13:26
3. The good Sky People are still stupid. 14:28
Well...
I think it's safe to assume someone missed his spot of tea this afternoon.
He's kiwi tho
"What sort of self-respecting invaders are motivated by profit?"
Hello, I'd like to introduce you to basically the entire history of Europe.
Not just profit. Also discovery and territorial expansion.
@@tubeviewerX20 Profit isn't only measured in money my dude.
Not just Europe. We can include the rest of the world in that statement.
@@erikpuente1250 not the whole world
just some nations
@@vibinpaul8910 Nope, it is the whole world. All of Human history. Believing otherwise is deluding yourself to the reality of how people have gotten to where they are.
have you considered that the reasons the engineers are not communicating with each other and are not very good at containment, because they are a dissident group?
So, a bunch of radicals hijacked a star ship and a stockpile of planet destroying materials and.. that explains what? Tell me, what is there to "consider" among that utter horse shit?
You do realise that mutinies do happen on military ships.
So? How does that relate to the situation in any way? You don't mutiny on a nuclear submarine and just have the rest of the world "let it go" for thousands of years. You wouldn't mutiny on a nuclear sub at all for that matter but if you ever did, there would be no ocean deep enough or cave dark enough to hide in, you'd be found and dealt with.
If your theory was right and this was some "dissident group" then it just makes matters far worse for this race, not better. It would explain how they should never have made it this far and offers no redeeming circumstance.
I'm not arguing with you. Go and find someone else to troll. It is a possibility. Ships do manage to hide. Transmitters can be deactivated and they're in a galaxy, let alone a single planet
Right, right, so this group of wizards steal the star ship and hide it, luckily they found a WMD stockpile that the others forgot was there. After spilling death juice everywhere, and then sleeping for for a thousand years or so they resume their sole purpose of destroying some primitive civilization that was still making cave paintings the last time they met..
All these "possibilities" are a real eye opener indeed.. It's all making so much sense now.
In Avatar the Humans used war as a last resort as peaceful negotiations to get said resource needed to save the Human race all but failed due to the suborn nature of the blue space monkey. #HumanityFirst
Exactly #HumanityFirst
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If the intention of this Engineer was to destroy humanity, then his old plan (which was about 2000 years old and was concerned about a bronze age mankind) is poised to fail. Even though he can't know the specifics, a couple of game changing facts can be deduced, if he were just willing to do so (which he obviously was not):
1.) The humans had spacesuits and sported projectile weapons (which means they're spacefaring and aggressive).
2.) They brought a highly advanced android with them, who carried a strong AI in his head (which potentially means armies of android soldiers and the ability to produce such incredible machines in the first place).
3.) He was revived by humans on a planet 39 lightyears from earth (which means, mankind is no longer a pre-industrial- but rather an advanced (high-) technology producing civilisation, capable of FTL interstellar travel (which is quite a feat)).
This ultimately renders his old plan - destroying mankind, as Shaw has repeatedly asserted as the engineers motives - obsolete, because with all this tech available to humans, he must assume that mankind spread well beyond the boundaries of earth and into interstellar space - it would not be successful, specifically because they were capable of making the epic journey of 39 lightyears in a warpship to wake him up. Him, firing up the engine of his ship in an attempt to carry out the old plan, while expecting it to succeed, is a very dubious (if not idiotic-) strategical assumption. Even if he would have reached Earth and destroyed all life there, he would have alerted mankind (now an interstellar society) of the Engineers existence, and that they are a mortal enemy, who needs to be stopped or even destroyed. If his intention was to make mankind a merciless enemy and start the ruinous endeavor of an interstellar war, then attacking mankind's home planet is the most efficient way to do it.
Given the enormous amounts of energy involved with interstellar travel (even more so when it's a warpship, as depicted in the movie), one spaceship of us carries enough energy to obliterate the entire surface area of an earthlike planet many times over. And this is what they really face with humanity at that point: Not a bronze age, agricultural, single-planet-bound civilisation, but an interstellar society, whose technology pretty much rivals that of the Engineers and, therefore, can shoot the crap out of them; if provoked, that is. Instead of just killing off the human expedition; going back to his own Homeplanet, to debate with his people how to deal with a now spacefaring Humanity, he mindlessly tries to execute the old plan.
If this lack of strategical prowess is all the Engineers can muster for the purpose of committing genocide against Humanity, then they are too stupid to be an existential threat for us.
To me the engineer is the epitome of the brilliant moron. We have all known that person who is genius, yet at the same time can barely stay alive outside of the library or lab.
Yup. That's the plot to "crusade" Babylon 5 spin off. Hence the name 'crusade' it rallied us and some of our allies.
Yes, Francis, they seem to be crazily stupid - all of these Engineers. Which is a bit odd, because they are an interstellar society - I actually expect a society that advanced, to act in at least vaguely plausible ways... which they do not. Ridley Scott, obviously, did not think through the concept of the Egineers to its conclusive logical end. It's a pitty, actually.
What the hell is the 'bronce age'?
Well, do you just give up? Might as well do as much damage as you can, and a homeworld is a good start.
"What sort of invaders are motivated only by profit?"
Let's see...the Spanish conquistadores who basically destroyed the Mayan civilization in their search for gold, the early 1800s European miners who swarmed the Western U.S. searching for gold (found in places like the Black Hills of Dakota), the three U.S. fruit companies in the late 1800s-early 1900s which invaded/occupied Honduras in order to grow and export bananas from there (United Fruit Company being the prime example)....
He obviously never bothered researching human history when making this film.
@Frank G.
Yep.
I was actually surprised when Klingons weren't on his list.
A society comprised almost entirely of a warrior-class couldn't make it out of the Bronze Age without help.
It's been established that within the Klingon society, the highest honor is reserved for the warriors.
Those who chose other paths (science, law..ect.) are scorned.
But you need scientists to develop the technology to create things like spaceships.
And engineers to build them.
And farmers to provide the food for the population (it's also been well-established that Klingons prefer real food over replicated food).
And doctors to patch up the warriors between battles.
And teachers to provide the education for all of those workers to exist.
And on and on and on.
The Klingons only became a society comprised of mostly warriors after the twenty first century.
That still begs the question of how they managed to remain a technologically advanced society afterwards.
There are still Klingons who are not warriors that can still contribute to society, though they are not held in the same regard as warriors.
“Ashume,” “preshume” and “conshume”: I will never tire of being amused at any Australian’s inability to pronounce words correctly, even in post.
>Implies humans wont do atrocious things irl just for profit.
Dude, diamonds are mined by slaves.
We at Mega Mining Corp 9000 like to call them volunteers thank you very much.
Alyssa you should probably go to africa and do something bout that then.
"Yeah Alyssa, if you like Africa so much, you should go and live there"
What he meant is, we haven't changed.
Yeah but when you achieve spacefaring you are so technological advanced that it make no sense to do that sort of things you are theoretically in a post scarcity economic with heavy automatization, 3d printer that can build anything and know how to exploit the energy of a star to the point of being able to s*craft everything you need just by using process that use massive amount of energy it is illogical, they way more ressources in space and it is far easier to mine in space, if unobtainium is just an alliage humanity can craft it simply, if it a rare element it is bound to be largely present in the entire star system, if it is biologically produced we can mimick the process. It make no sense be spacefaring and simply mining like that
Blaa; ... lets see ... any alien that thinks Los Angeles is the primary target to take down Earth deserves the Hollywood soldiers they get. Frankly, let the aliens have LA, it would be an improvement.
I'd like to see *you* determine which major population centers are organizationally important for a species just by looking at their planet through a telescope.
Anyways, the #1 rule in stopping an invasion is to stop them at the beaches. Once the invaders have a foothold, you've lost your defensive advantage.
Take down the entertainment center of the world and our species would collapse.
Thankfully we now have the RUclips and other social media platforms.
The Blaa attacked 4 decades too late. I think they took a left at Alpha Centauri and got delayed attacking.
Humans would have been driven into the dark ages of libraries and forced to read books for entertainment.
The aliens have already overran LA.
If they wanted water, they could visit Saturn and various ice moons. All we could do is shake our fist impotently through our telescopes as they siphoned that water!
Already happened. And its no good. Liberals are fleeing.
I think if our civilization was a movie, it would literally be a part of this video.
"Are you saying their computers were so good they were literally better at art than people, and they still went into debts for education and healthcare? We are shown they have missiles that can wipe out their entire civilization, and they elect old man straight from a death bed to be their leader?"
There are two theories which is much more realistic reasoning behind the xenomorph than weapons:
1. Actually the Xenomorphs are a precursor race and actually the creator of the androids known as the Engineers, which's ultimate goal is to preserve the species of their creators. To them the xenomorph are not weapon of mass destructions, but a species tried to be artificially resurrected, and the black goo is the dna of the old race.
2. It's the same as the 1st, but one exception - the xenomorph goo was even OLDER than the creators, and the Engineers mistake it for creator DNA. The creators found this DNA on a planet struck by biological weapon (the black goo), thus it is indeed a bioweapon, but Engineers don't know that.
The xenomorphs are NOT a precursor race. They are the final product of the evolution of their species.
0:32 The Engineers (Prometheus)
5:00 The Battle: Los Angeles aliens
10:53 The Sky People/Humans (Avatar)
The "Sky People" weren't a civilization, they were a mining company. They did not have faster than light travel, so just finding more unobtanium would take centuries if not millenia. Not only did they try diplomacy several times, but it was fairly obvious early on that the Navi wouldn't abandon their ancestral home over the whims of some weird, weak, pink aliens. Destroying the tribe that lived on top of the huge deposit of extremely rare materials was the most profitable decision. You also forget that this mining operation only occupied a small area of the planet, all that other exploitation and scientific study you mentioned was probably on the way in a few more ships that would arrive in decades. No FTL, remember? The main character guy even said that the "Sky People" would be back with a real extermination force because the unobtanium ALONE was worth it.
The only stupid thing about their invasion was how they somehow didn't bring lethal weapons or trained mercenaries, apparently, because all their muscle closed to melee range with their long-range weapons.
Anyone who says invasion for profit is silly once you have space travel has to assume that space travel means complete star maps and hyperdrive tech. If you're stuck coasting at sublight and find something valuable, you're gonna take it regardless of how many primitive aliens are in the way because you probably won't find more in your lifetime.
That's still so cheap. You find intelligent life and seek to destroy it? The Na'vi are hardly primitive, they have a rich social life, big communities and seem to life in harmony with their surroundings. Hell, humanity didn't even achieve the latter. We have no knowledge of any kind of diseases in the Na'vi. They life our own dream: Living in a big fucking tree with magical plants everywhere. This species is lit, it's so close to us it's barely imaginable. It's like it is a fantasy of better humanity (coincidence? I think not). Yet a company can make a decision on it's own to attack those? What? I would imagine that all hell would break loose if those sky people returned. "Yeah we found some of that shit, oh by the way, we startet a war with the most awesome species you could image." Sound's absolutely ducking legit. No way people on earth would take that message in any bad way. Is there no law? No one prohibiting stellar travelers on genocide? No fear of punishment after return? If humanity had come to that point, we would have already destroyed ourselves.
+marc_destroyer well said man
Agree entirely, its the poorest analysis of avatar movie i have ever seen.
@@Niklas_vT You say like we are not doing it right now. Look at all the war in the Middle East. Humans will readily shoot their own species for profit, let alone some strange aliens we don't even know much about. Remember all the beautiful things you see about the Na'vi in the movie was because Jake got to live with them and experienced their culture. To the other humans, they all saw the Na'vi as pretty much undeveloped savages. Everyday we are still turning a blind eye to all the bombing and killing in the Middle East, what's so surprising about some company blowing up some aliens they considered savages and no one on Earth gives a fuck about?
Secret Moon , isee your argument but you cannot compare the peaceful navi respecting nature with muslims which dont respect nature since allah will take care of all and secondly they are famous worldwide for their "religion of peace" killing people on a daily basis. I dont say its only their fault, but that they are the worst example you can pick.
If you want to compare the navi, choose the native americans ;D (a tribe which was not agressive btw ;)
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I like to think the reason the engineers were so disappointed in us/hate us is because we turned out just like them, instead of becoming a worthy successor.
The premise of invasion is pretty bad as a whole. Even if life-bearing worlds are incredibly rare in the universe, any species with technology sufficiently advanced to travel between stars could probably more easily build their own permanently sustainable habitats than try to find and claim another life-bearing planet. And if life bearing planets are common, it shouldn't be that hard to find one without an intelligent species to defend it. That's assuming that life between worlds is even remotely compatible - it may turn out to be the case that life forms from completely different bio-origins simply cannot chemically abide each other, in which case it would be easier to terraform a DEAD world to your purposes than it would be to convert a living alien one. The living ones might prove to be utterly poisonous and inimical to intruders no matter how advanced. This seems likely, IMO.
Unfortunately, there are other reasons for interstellar conflict - the foremost probably being genocide. Simply put, some species may simply have no interest in having neighbors as potential competitors or enemies, and might take the course that the safest galaxy is one devoid of such competition. Alas, this doesn't lead to invasion - it leads to orbital bombardment and/or bio-warfare, or at a minimum, permanent containment where the target species is military prevented from achieving sufficient technology to become a future threat., probably by trapping them in their home gravity well.
The company in Avatar is extremely plausible, for a historical reference look up the Dutch East India Trading Company. Government funded pirate traders/exploitive governors/pirates, established to monopolize a single resource so as to bring great wealth to the homeland.
And the lovely Belgian/ Congo thing.
They weren't pirates, their is a difference. But yes there is historical precedence. However there need to be a balance. There are somethings that simply isn't profitable but is required if you want your species to live.
Also if you look at how the various East Indian Trading company operates, none of them were like the Sky People. Everything is much more calculated and not just guns blazing.
Robert Aylor Except the Dutch weren't shy when it came to suppressing the locals with extreme unrestrained all out force.
If the CEO of the company in Avatar had any brains, he would’ve known that the majority of the asteroids in Pandoras solar system would have massive amounts of unobtainium. There’d be no need for a large military deployment to mine any asteroid, which would bring down the overall cost.
Which would make it incredibly easy to obtain, particle accelerator aren't a futuristic technolgy, and when you have achieve interstellar travel and genetic manipulation, mimicking a biological process is incredibly easy. We actually already know how to genrate oild from Co2 and h2 we just don't do it because it is not ecnomically viable, and there is actual hydrocarbure more hydrocarbure not on earth than on earth in our own solar system
I used to go to a military school. The old 1000 yard stare gunnery sergeant in charge of our building, would sit back in his chair and, say battle of los angles was the best movie of all time.
In defense of the BLAA, they did exercise useful tactics, i.e. homing in on any military radio signal and immediately attacking it. This served the dual purpose of, in the initial phase, identifying the location of all active military units, and in the endgame, limiting communication between enemy units once they become aware of the tactic. Additionally, the BLAA are incredibly hard to kill unless you know *exactly* where to shoot.
The BLAA thing almost isn't even fair, they're rolling onto Earth with spaceships that probably coasted into our atmosphere on fumes, obvious considering that they could have gutted organized resistance by dropping literal rocks on us from orbit, with old scavenged looking tech that gives more of a Somali pirate vibe than anything else. The only truly dumb part of the film is the 'conquering us for water' thing.
Conquering for water makes sense, if there a carbon based lifeform they would need water to hydrate, water is also made up of 2 hydrogen atoms and 1 oxygen atom, which would be useful for rocket fuel and breathing.
plus theyre literally designed for war so the fact that they cant fight humans really says something
@@mattyb8982 They could get all the water (or at least ice) they could ever want from the Oort Cloud, the Kuiper Belt, or the moons of the gas giants without having to worry about any pesky humans.
Dakota Adams perhaps the truth is that they want or need our water for their travels through the galaxy in a lake in the Andes mountains it’s been reported that a huge spaceship scooped up over a million gallons of water from the lake as people watched in disbelief
@@jamescreek1319 That is a lie. Gallons don't exist
Unobtainium... I always thought it was called Mcuffinite.
if the mac its made of a material really rare in universe can be called that as well XD
Quick rant: has anyone who compares Avatar to Pocahontas ever seen Avatar or Pocahontas. They are completely different stories. There are more stories about Europeans clashing with native Americans than Pocahontas. Avatar is a retelling of Dances with Wolves. It’s an Oscar winning movie based off a book. Unlike Pocahontas it actually has similarities to Avatar
No alien invaders would send a massive battle fleet across space to destroy us. A small craft with biological weapons could do the job quickly and silently. But that would be a dull movie.
'But that would be a dull-'.
no. that example....
'A small craft with biological weapons could do the job quickly and silently.'
....is Realism.
*but 'of course', plot armored Scraps and all it is why. which is Unfortunate.*
so of course. such developers of a certain type would have to do the '-alien invaders would send a massive battle fleet across space to destroy us.' move, huh.
it is also for shock's and awe's too, etc etc.
'No alien invaders would send a massive battle fleet across space to destroy us. A small craft with biological weapons could do the job quickly and silently.'.
yes....Lore-wise. there is one example I know of that does so....
ridiculously, and monstrous.
I don't think I agree with your assessment of the engineers. Who says it was a storage of WMD? why can it be akin to a snake/antivenon farm? most things there can kill every employee. and who gives a shit about another snake farm? they are all over the place. yes, their ships are very artistic, but who says you are supposed to walk on them? yes, their rooms are dark and foggy, but who says that they have to see in our wavelength? hell, most life on earth sees in ultraviolet. and if they see us as some sort of experiment gone wrong, kind of like Dr. Moreau's monstrosities, wouldn't our extermination be their moral imperative?
Just saying . . .
it is said so by the captain in Prometheus.
their ships also make abit more sense when you consider that they are space ships, having textured or grooved surfaces in a 0 g environment would be useful for self propulsion
Bunch of car pen tree zone bombers,just say ENg...
Lol! That was great.
But they were obliterated by one ship and had no systems to protect themselves. Genius.
"Choosing a weaponized arm is a big step." Thanks. Now my keyboard has coffee on it.
at least make it so you can swap it out with something different
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Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey is the only solid science fiction film I can think of, and audiences were generally bored to death watching it. But people went wild over Star Wars, so realism has become a recipe for box office failure and fantasy has reigned ever since. If you want to make sure of your success, just ensure there are a sufficient number of things blowing up and/or ensure that you disregard science to allow your implausible plot to unfold. Science requires a certain patience of the mind, and audiences do not want to be enlightened by a movie. They want a carnival ride that thrills them and doesn't require much (if any) deep thinking.
Just what do you think you are doing, Dave?
It’s science fiction, I didn’t sign up for realism... I signed up for explosions and aliens with three tits.
Star Trek (balancer) : Am I a joke to you?
@@explosivemodesonicmauricet1597 Huh?
@@explosivemodesonicmauricet1597 I enjoy Star Trek (most of it), but on an entirely level from true science fiction films ... of which there have only been a handful.
In their defence, maybe they were warmongers and take more pride in wiping out space-capable civilizations that put up a fight. Or they were re-written to be that way.
"My Stasis ended? Humans... *AH YEAH WAR TIME GET OUT OF MY WAY*" as a cue to him gleefully beating them and starting up his Biological WMD delivery ship.
Hint, anyone who uses the term "warmonger"; comes across an alt-left hippie peacenik, i.e: not worth listening to.
"Alt-left" Lol fuck no. If anything around the center or leaning right.
Praise Kek.
Pray thy lord kek
Baldons Pray "to" thy lord kek. ;)
The Blaa struck me more as a hodge podge of pirates than a full blown civilization.
Good overall analysis, but a bit idealistic and naive when it comes to human nature/greed/ignorance.
"The movie takes place in a classic middle eastern urban war setting"
Music starts to play: classic dessert like mus.... NOPE
California Love.... YEAHHHHH!!!!
The movie idiocracy may shed light on this.
My friend, Idiocracy should be mandated for every classroom from Kindergarten to... whatever. It's more truth than fantasy, by far.
I think the movie Idiocracy is wrong due to the fact that average IQ is increasing(known as the Flynn effect) and that the movie pushes an outdated and unhealthy view on intelligence. I do find it's portrayal of hyper consumerism instead of a meaningful fulfilling life true about our own society. We traded education, health care, and a pursuit of happiness for 30 minute pizzas and mediocre (or horrible) working conditions.
IQ is increasing and yet everyone's glued to a smartphone. The principle wasn't that people are getting dumber its that dumb people reproduce faster.
It's what plants crave!
The collapse would happen long before idiocracy was reached. IQ is all well and good but not put towards anything worthwhile it is useless. I think many people missed the point of the movie. And the "Flynn effect" what a joke, using flawed methods to produce a conclusion that you have already reached is not science.
You really think people wouldn't invade for profit? That's ridiculous. Maybe they found unobtainium on other planets but used it up already, forcing them to mine pandora for it. Honestly the humans in that movie are some of the more plausible invaders in movies
Except unlike the "Independence Day" aliens, who actually invaded like proper invaders and just started blowing everything up from inside their impenetrable shields, the humans actually landed instead of just raining small meteors onto the planet until the Na'vi decided the Sky Gods were angry and willingly gave up all the unobtanium to placate them. Seriously, they had no idea how to bilk primitives!
In the extended cut it's revealed that available materials are dwindling and renewable energy has essentially failed to provide the necessary power to sustain future civilization and that resource wars ravage the planet with the problem only getting worse. The resource wars will soon be fought by major nations and the last man standing will still be on borrowed time in a wasteland. Pandora was our only hope; unobtanium allows for affordable fusion power that can stop the slow death of Earth and bring peace to humanity. That was cut out since people generally think that massacring a single village of blue alien cat people is a low price for the future of humanity and the Earth which interfered with the central thematic drive of the movie.
@@helloyes2288 Interesting if you are not full of shit.
What does that say about what film directors think of the audience? They have either so little faith that we can make a moral choice or that we are to stupid to comprehend the issues at hand? To bad they took that out if it is real, it is not as if we do not have cerebral movies that DEMAND attention and understanding. J.C. clearly does not think much of society, or they were concerned with sales, i suspect it was about appealing to the larger ticket buying audience in the end.
My thinking is the unobtainium was made on the moon by the super computer that runs it.
"There may be simple lifeform on Europa but go ahead and obliterate them because you've already answered our most important existential question anyway."
destroying such before whoever they were becomes a threat, for example?
Alternative theory for the LA aliens:
There is a large collection of liquid water (which means very easy to collect. Ice you sort of need to go and get it rather then wait for it too come to you.) but you have no idea about the capabilities of the native life.
So you send a bunch of cheap robots to go and test them to see if it worth fighting. If you win then you have not spend a lot of money, If you lose then you know if it is worth fighting for.
I preferred the old school Engineers over the Prometheus version. The elephant nose ones, with the cross shaped pupils were much cooler imo...
Yeah but what about a really tall... guy... who loooks kind of like an albino Roma-Italian andAfrican mix.
That's a much better alien. Just a big dude.
@Thomas Daly thank you. Someone actually does research lol
i've always thought the engineers were too smart to survive. they became intensely individualized in their areas of research, to the point where their entire species was capable of creating these weapons. a government was formed, or no doubt several, to combat the "threat" and a war of galaxy wide arms races ensued. imagine a species where everyone is davinci, technologically advanced enough to fund their own research in perpetuity, with virtually no governmental involvement. it's free galaxy, i can fly my spacelab wherever i please.
But, you've just disproven your own point. If they were smart enough to do all of that, they'd also be smart enough to realize the consequences and do something about it.
I would point out the present as evidence of people being aware of consequences and ignoring them
The real reason why all these movies scenarios are improbable is that by the time any civilization
has developed a technology to conquer large tracts of space, it’s no longer
required. At the present rate of our technological development, all due to our exponentially
developing computing processing power, we will soon be replaced by synthetic intelligence.
The focus for knowledge will alter from outer space to inner space; basically the
control of subatomic matter, which will enable whatever is in control to
create anything it wants. It will just require a massive energy source like a black Hole; other worlds have nothing that cannot be created anywhere in the universe since the same elements where dispersed throughout the universe at the advent of big
bang.
If all of the alien follow the common sense, we as a human will have no chance to win at all.
"Choosing a gun arm is a big step". The Omnisiah disagrees! Chop off those fleshy failpoles and stick on a plasma culverin!
The machine god has no wife!!
To be fair sci-if fairs pretty well without aliens
Case in point: Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, and Akira to name a few
read a book
Dirty Dard read a book
M.Bayne don't forget Gundam also Outlaw Star
Don't mix cyberpunk with sci-fi
Seeker for Freedom Why?
You called it. The Engineers were completely wiped out.
Prophein X the sequel to Prometheus did a great job; both their biological experiments basically ensuring their downfall
I actually quite like both movies. Plot holes n stupid points and all. The 1st time I watched the original I didn't even know it was an aliens prequel. The end was rather wtf and made me look into it to make sure I didn't watch a theft of sorts.
Avatar -it's likely humans will survive the currently accelerating cataclysm but our system likely won't.
I think these advanced Engineers........never implemented OSHA LOL.
NoExit NoProblem Could you imagine the shit show this would be during an inspection?! Violations all over the fucking place.
NoExit NoProblem osha would kick their ass before the xenomorphs
NoExit NoProblem AND SOME SAY AN ENGINEER COULD BEAT A PREDATOR ONE ON ONE LOL. NOT.
You gotta be a Commie, less regulations is always good! You know - the invisible hand of the market and stuff.
SwineNahNah -->tell that to Upton Sinclaire ya looney!
Just saw Alien: Covenant. It confirms everything you said about the engineers.
Haha yup. Some people are still insisting there are "factions", but it just looked like civilians welcoming home their military to me. Lack of WMD control wiped out their home planet (or at least one of them) as predicted. Lots of people hate my inclusion of the engineers on this countdown, but I'm now thinking I should have given them a better spot.
Why did they let a two thousand year old ship dock without so much as identifying itself? Could David speak modern engineerese well enough to talk his way past every security protocol? And explain why the ship has no engineer lifesigns?
Yea exactly, 2000 y/o outdated military ship turns up, and it's like a ticket tape parade. No concerns about goo until it's reigning down on their heads. It should have rung alarm bells having any goo vessel anywhere near one of their worlds. But as you say, their woeful lack of security continues. There's definitely another video in this, I'm just trying to decide whether I should do an engineers sequel, or else maybe a full analysis of Covenant. There's plenty of non-engineers stuff to pick apart too.
New theory: the engineers planet is just far enough from Earth that they pick up old broadcast signals. When David arrives, the civilians see him and say, "OMG its Michael Fassbender! He was great in that movie about mutants! Let's all get his autograph!"
Dan Nolan: Indeed so sad that they didn't see the trailer for Covenent, if they were just a few light years closer to Earth, they might have been better prepared for his arrival! Obviously, they didn't get the ending of Prometheus! Or maybe they all switched off when the silly woman ran from the rolling spaceship in the direction it was rolling in! 😀
I would argue a more accurate term is "too stupid to really _survive."_ There have been total dipshits of civilisations (e.g. more than half of those created by humans irl) that have _existed,_ but haven't _survived._ It's a borderline pedantic difference, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I definitely agree with the Engineers, especially because Metroid, Mass Effect, Halo, 40k, Starcraft (which is kind of a ripoff of 40k but that's a whole other rant), DOOM (2016 & Eternal), and many others have done the whole "incredibly technologically advanced and usually benevolent race who died out because of something they created or caused" thing. I like the AvP timeline better, because at least the Yautja and the Xenomorphs both make sense, and how they interact makes sense as well. Although minor point on the original Alien's ship: the lights are probably damaged/ran out of power however long ago.
I have no clue how Avatar got so fucking popular when it came out. It's derivative, pointless, and sorta based on a real-life colonialist event that got romanticised by many people, including Disney, probably because they didn't actually know the details. I guess being anti-colonialist makes it not _terrible,_ but... it could've been a genuinely _great_ film. I still say that Cameron peaked at Terminator 2.
'-There have been total dip * * * * s of civilizations (e.g. *more than half of those created by humans* ) that have existed, but haven't survived.'.
like the helghanites' current state. for an example, Heh.
'I have no clue how avata got so popular when it came out.'.
Try reminding his Cult That, yep.
'It's derivative, pointless, and-' - '-that got romanticised by many people, including disney,-'.
Yep. truly.
'-probably because they didn't actually know the details.'.
do such types of Casuals ever take time, considered, and read full Lore descriptions these Days? [rhetorically Shrugs]
(especially for those officially making the visual portrayals being....well, official. outside of the more detailed (for example) Christian Bible chapter's text originally of an event happened and then they try to do that in moving virtual scenes).
"...stuck in a feedback loop where they must
expend Unobtanium to get more. Sound familiar?
That's right:"
*C o c a i n e . . .*
Just knew you were gonna say...
The moment I realized Prometheus is a kid's film was when they showed that 2D "map" on the cave wall that led them to the planet. I thought, "Oh boy... this is gonna be a shit movie".
Prometheus basically promotes creationism, which is a big yikes...
@CM HW So you are a fedora tipper now, if you don't like movies promoting creationism?
@CM HW So to criticise a movie, I first have to list every other movie that I also disagree with or what? Absolutely stupid argument.
And sorry dude, but the Big Bang is currently the most plausible explaination for the origin of the universe. If you could actually disprove it, you'd win a Nobel Prize.
Besides, there are actually multiple Big Bang theories, not just a single unified one - but I guess you don't know that, because you are only motivated by religious dogmatism. Every explaination that does not boil down to "God did it" will be wrong in your eyes.
@CM HW I had many discussions with people like you already, and quite honstly, there is no point to it. You are all the same, with the exact same mindset, repeating the same things over and over again.
You are just like creationists who bring up the second law of thermodynamics, feel super smug about it, but don't actually know what they are talking about while repeating an argument they probably got from a RUclips video or blog post.
Yes, I am not astrophysicist, but neither are you. The only thing we can do is inform ourselves about the scientific consensus and stop being an obnoxious asshole.
Big bang is a big joke, so is your 'logic'
They got to Pandora first with ships a few times the size of the later ones and samples of pharmaceutical plants are send back to earth. Transporting anything is pretty expensive, having just a transport capacity of 350 tons.
I look at it like creation/extermination are both just forms of transformation. The engineers made mistakes because they were designed to, but yet they still played vital role in the whole series.
If I remember Prometheus correctly, the weapons planet was a diversion not the actual original destination.
That’s true. In fact, I love Prometheus and I think not everyone can understands the whole story line.
2:15 Fasbender takes xenojizz to the face
Your whole idea is flawed- look at humans- the dominant species- Travel via technologically advanced mechanisms to distant worlds- explore our universe- we will be the engineers one day-soon,
we will be the creatures too dumb to have existed. :)
For the Prometheus part, It wasnt a warning. It was a trap. The engineers wanted us to find the place and go there so that the xenomorphs could spread
There is nothing wrong with a feedback loop. Growing food is a feedback loop. You are saving some of the food, for seeds, to grow more food.
If you are using ALL of what you produce, then the feedback loop is a problem. This is not the case in the oil example you used.