Repair: 0.004°C Temperature Controller Arroyo 5235 TECSource
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
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In this video we take a look at various temperature controllers, most importantly an Arroyo 5235 TECSource. We take it apart, look at a few of its key components, repair it, then calibrate and test its performance. To reach it's most important 0.004°C temperature stability over 1 hour spec, a custom shielding box with a peltier cooler is machined. 
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' It's not even ashamed to have less digits than a clock ' 🤣🤣🤣 please never stop Marco...
Component level repair advice in 2020 ?!!!!! OMG, I love this company already! If I ever need a temp controller, I'll make sure to give them a call. Arroyo! Arroyo!
Same here...
Arroyo ftw
@Barry Manilowa Damn it, Donnie. Why do you gotta get so smart on us? And its the thought that counts right?
1000% better than Apple
@@therenaissance8322 1000% of 0 is still 0 though
More common than you think, but depends on the industry. we have kit at our place from the late 80's that is getting old (obviously) and the company that made it still gives us advice on how to fix it. its got a "computer" in it that to erase the data on it you expose it to sunlight!
*temp - uh - cha*
Yeah reps isn't broken yet.
Oh btw I totally forgot to check what that thing is actually putting out:
It's some kind of low resolution analog imgur.com/a/C09JRrJ
Which seems to be more easily digestible for the TEC than PWM
@@reps Was curious about this, thanks!
Upload more videos asap. Well, unless you're scared..
btw heat can be cold !
OH BABY! WE BACK!
With a good controller and temperature sensor you can make quite a good constant temperature box with surprisingly simple hardware. When still at university we made a set of constant temperature boxes with
Damn very high-quality yet simple solution!
This video is just what I need right now.
with the world seemingly falling apart (especially here in the US right now), it's really nice to have Marco Reps delicious auditory chocolate serenade my ear drums
Is nobody gonna talk about how awesome the transition at 1:44 is? Small things that really help to make the video awesome. Thanks for your work Marco! By the way, you know there's no need to use gloves right? If you don't like to show your hands or whatever it's fine, but on our end there's no need to.
I think he meant his hands reflect too much light at the camera, oversaturating the image.
After all we still see those really white arms above those gloves!
I was not paying attention to the picture and thinking like _what a clear glass, where is that tube like structure, cannot see it bruh_
@@emremutlu44 it felt like a wide angle lens
I worked for a lighting rental company and we used Ethafoam to pack things in cases. Our flightcase builder used his CNC to make complex shapes for our equipment.
Closed Cell Polyethylene is used for tool box liners and cuts very well with a router.
"I am not even a customer"
You are a potential future customer, which makes you exactly as valuable as someone that already gave them money.
8:38 "i have to be careful with the C-Word now"
xD xD
3:53 Thats the prettiest PCB I have ever seen. Im crying rn
Most of the time the temperature measuring device isn't the issue. Making sure that you're actually measuring what you supposed to be measuring without introducing another billion variables, is the hard part. Welcome to thermodynamics.
Talking a bout foam, I work for a company called Sealed Air who make a foam called "synergy" that you can CNC (its a Polyethylene based foam so the melting temperature is a bit low and it can be a little bit messy, but the sales pitch is you can recycle it), and our best competitor is a company called Zotefoams make a REALLY nice to CNC foam called Plastazote. Both CNC really well. They are both packaging foams and a few of our customers will 3D CNC packaging trays out of them. I'm scratching my head trying to think of a fabricator who may be able to give you a sample in Germany, but it has been years since i spoke to them last.
I have just been asked to scrap a load of 50mm Synergy material, so may be able to box some up and ship some out to you if you would like a sample?
you know I was just thinking "I wonder when Marco Reps will upload his next video" after seeing Linus from LTT wearing a go pro...
Good Work
14:00 - a Community reference? My emotions, MY EMOTIONS!
Willkommen zurück
these dotA 2 voice lines give me life xD
finally a new upload yayyy
Every night during quarantine, I blew up an electrolytic on my windowsill, hoping Marco would upload again. Finally my prayers have been heard!
There should be a "i drop everything I do to watch their videos" button next to the like button.
Me too, I gave the German boy the privilege of the notification bell, in my case I follow many but wait for only one
The moment I saw a new video was up I left the call I was on, my friends were worried about my sudden disappearance.
It's called the notification bell. Helps you drop everything you do to watch their videos faster.
For cutting foam, try cryogenic milling (see video from applied science on the topic of cnc-ing rubber) the gist is, that you cool down your workpiece enough so that it becomes hard. At that point just cnc it like regular plastic but continue cooling it
You have some mad skills. That’s a complement that isn’t just given, it’s earned. You may have haters, but it’s just jealousy. Some are not used to being around smart people. They’ll get over it or continue whining. In either case, it’s of no significance. Keep putting these high quality videos out.The ones of us who appreciate high end work appreciate your efforts. Stay safe mates!😊👍🏻😷
Holy shit i've never seen a pcb so beautiful. that grid layout looks amazing, even though most people will never see it.
I wish more companies would have this philosophy like Arroyo.
I mean we all are hobbyist, but most of us have a job in the field, too. Do these companies which never mail back or answer schematic or whatever request with "we dont do such things" to be picked by us ignored hobbyists as supplier for the companies we work for...
hope you get what I am trying to say, its a bit late here :)
I’ve been using Arroyo Tec Sources since 2010. The instrument as well as the support has been top notch from Arroyo. Cheers.
Less relevant to my own tinkering each time you post a video... but at the same time, even more interesting!
Ahhh.... 18 minutes and 36 seconds of pure tech and dry german humour. Life is good!
The moment when marco reps uploads a new video.
Love your videos!
Weiter so.
Oh boi, I'm always extra happy at the end of the day when I see that you just posted a video
Loved the PCB arroyo made, awesome to provide you the info to fix it.
This is the kind of content i like, Subscribed!
Man, just wanted to say: I really enjoy your videos, thanks!
Outstanding video ! Excellent work !
I have been looking forward to watching this video for 2 days!
This has become my favorite youtube channel !
I'm starting to think you're building some kind of death laser machine to enslave all humanity with all this equipment, I think I'll enjoy the video while being slightly worried.
Thats a nice set screw there! Very nice 👌
New video! yeyyy! Love you vids, your are very knowledgeable and very funny too.
3:53 woah twisted pair mains cable, good for low EMI!
14:54 try clamping it at the long sides so the unsupported length is as short as possible, also screwing on the lid can help stabilize the part, had those problems multiple times at work when CNC-ing some housings
I just discovered your channel, I watched all videos (except the ones with the head mounted camera) some several times, and this one is my favorite. Weitermachen, bitte.
Simply put, you Mr. Reps, are a trip. What you do is amazing. 👍👍👍
very good video..thanks for your time
Holy moly your videos are good! IMHO better videos has never been produced!!! (The originality of how and what you display on the instrument screens is unfathomable!)
I've been waiting so long!!
We all have
wow that is gorgeous instrument, also that mercury switch!!
You are an absolute madman. burning through money to get an extra digit of precision. I like it....
Very impressive, thanks for your trouble!
Watching again because that arroyo deserves! 😁
satisfying video. thank you!
Marco you're awesome. You make the best nerd videos
youre crazy man, thats why i love you
Endlich ein neues Video!!
Hi, Marco!
I must admit, you have way nicer toys than me. Nice video!
Regards,
Etna.
Wow precise
This dude's sense of humor gives me life
Nice work there!
Thanks Mr Reps
One more pearl! :D
Thanks!
The quest for precision ... this is high art.
those test points are so hot all over there silkscreened by themselves in a nice table. amazing. oh my god that set screw 😩
Thank you so much for squeezing this video out. It's been a while and you've been missed!
Arroyo is awesome! If I ever need lab gear I'll make sure to choose Arroyo.
Great video, even though quite a portion of it flew over my head.
Wow! Just wow!
I know a guy, that owns company that is built around component level service. Typically after buying his production he gives board layout, schematics and firmware.
Love the jakiro reference
I see you have lot of fun, like that!
I have absolutely no idea what he was doing, but I enjoyed inmensely watching it.
Amazing! It's interesting to see the different approaches to deal with temperature.
There is temperature control, thermal isolation, there is material science/device design temperature invariance, there's temperature compensation (and software calibration), and finally there's the union of several methods to get the absolute best results! I believe quartz watches (e.g. casio) use a mix of stable temperature dependence with thermometers. The problem of course is that temperature changes can't be too quick, thermometer precision is limited, and the temperature may not be uniform across the entire device. But you do what's possible under small device constraints! Great video as usual :)
Your English is stylish and humourous, and a pleasure to listen to. Thanks. Oh, and totally nerdy phsics and engineering. What do you know about precision-controlling welding arcs?
Just what the patient needed.
I love jakiro voice lines :)
Around here some CNC hobbyists like to use rigid carbohydrate foam for some machining projects. Unfortunately the supplier is very local and you may have to source material from specialty stores. Goes by many trade names but in this part of the world they use an old english word, I think it's called "wůd"
John Grimsmo makes knife case inserts out of cnc'd foam. Works really well
Has anyone noticed how he is slowly becoming the most precise weatherman
I missed watching you! Hope you don't disappear for too long again.
Pretty interesting!!! 😃
I legit have perfectionistic ocd and watching your videos is like dumping stoic hydrolox on that lol
I can only agree with some other commenters - I have been missing your dry humor 🤣
Arroyo is a great company.
So last night as I was not sleeping, I was thinking to myself.. I'm going to bark at Marco.. Where's he been the past few months?? I'm hoping you didn't have a nightmare. Great to see ya mousing around!
I'm used to being barked at
I do enjoy a good pair of well calibrated hands.
You should wear them more often, they look really good on you.
Good CNC'able thermal insulator - Wood
I’ve been hoping to hear something from him about this
Been working on a project that requires some temperature readings. It's crazy how hard it is to get good accuracy. It's definitely a rabbit hole. Before long, you're looking at how much triple point cells cost.
Nice keyboard
Yessssss
Finally
0:40 "pre human apes have develop this controller 5...000 years ago in usa" :D hahahhahahahahhaha brilliant.
The only part of this video I have experience with is the Noritake VFD. They're very nice, and even supply an Arduino library. But pretty expensive, the 40x2 model I used was over $100 if I remember.
Looks like they even have touch screen VFDs now too.
Hmm, and I thought I was doing well to get my heat pump operating within 2 K of the nominal set point! It frequently short-cycles (probably oversized for the room) and generally seems to run too hot, so I wired the thermistor onto an extension cable and added a parallel resistor to make the room measure hotter.
High density EVA foam machines very nicely with aluminum or compression cutters. I use mostly 2 flute compression cutters.
oh, nice paintbrush!
Thumbs up for overpriced nitrile gloves joke!
Double thumbs up for Arroyo engineer who helped you!
Did you use Belleville washers on the plastic screws mounting the peltier? Thermal expansion/contraction will change the thermal contact and ideal PID values over time and with temperature differential if there isn't constant clamping force.
Terrifyingly overproduced as always. Well done.
I just know of that pink builder foam. It's urethane I believe. You can buy it in a and b and mix it at home.
The urethane type foam that is.
Basically the stuff you used in the video but in a can.
Idk about long term but Eva foam or the foam floor mats machine reasonably well and laser great
You could try Etafoam, I only cut it using a bandsaw yet but it worked wonderfully so it might be cnc machinable
About CNC mashinable foam: there are some youtubers machining models from extruded polystyrene foam (google: xps foam) that is usually used as heat insulator in building. You should easily find this material locally for cheap. I could share a links to theirs machining videos with you, if needed.
HDPU is a pretty stable machinable foam or expanded PVC (sintra) but they are both ridged (sintra less so)
You might want to try Polyurethane foam sheets, I don’t know about it’s lifespan tho. Downside is it not very flat in thin sheets so you would ideally need to have a vacuum table but you could get away with gluing it. Hope this helps
Holy shit that's good publicity. You'd never find that in consumer electronics nowadays.