This video was like the equivalent of asking a kid which one does he/she like more and why? They then respond back by saying "This one cause I said so." and then they run off. You didn't really say why you liked the Osmo over the GoPro.
no its $550 and the osmo is $346 but with the gopro you have a camera you can dive with and mount on more things than I care to list of course you can get the gopro setup for $500 even if you go with the Hero 2018 insead of the Hero 5. oh and watterproff to 10m
"The OSMO comes from a Drone Maker" This is incorrect. DJI is a creative filmography company who happens to make drones as a Filmmakers tool. They are just the best game in town for drones because of how steady they make them. It's right here in their mission statement: www.dji.com/company
Good video. Only thing that was failed to mention is that the price of $799 for the karma bundle (with drone) doesn't include a camera. With a hero 5 there would be an extra cost of $399.
I have an osmo, the internal mic is crap, no doubt about it, but you can plug in an external microphone to the microphone jack on the Osmo and the audio is quite good then. (I use a rode videomicro, but DJI includes a fairly decent external microphone in the package itself.
Battery life on the Osmo is about 30min at 4K. The GoPro with Karma Grip is 2 hours plus at 4K. I have both and the Osmo battery life is a big problem.
The cool thing about the Osmo is the fact you have a LARGE viewfinder aka your smartphone. Not only that but you could control a ton of image quality settings with the DJI app and it allows subject tracking and auto panoramic capture. The LCD on the GoPro is basically useless as you can see from the video..not only is it tiny from arm's distance but the gimbal arm blocks it from view. The GoPro's advantage is it's removable from the gimbal and waterproof. I don't own any GoPros but I do own a smartphone so for me the Osmo would be my pick and not just for that reason. DJI also offers the Osmo Mobile which you could use with your own camera phone and it costs only $299.
Battery life on the Osmo is really bad. About 30mins at 4K. The GoPro with the Karma Grips is 2hrs plus. I have both and for me the GoPro/Karma Grip wins every time. The Osmo doesn't suffer from as much fish eye as the GoPro and it has an external mike input, big plus for the Osmo, but the image quality can't match the GoPro with ProTunes turned on. So all in all the GoPro win hands down for me.
the compression on Osmo is poor, bitrate variable between 35mbps, Gopro is 60mbps and more solid. after edit a osmo file you have a horrible rendered movie.
why would you go with the osmo? it is noisy and that means that the microphone will pick up that noise. i have already seen a youtuber complain about that and yes, noise was recorded on the video footage...that right there is major FAIL. plus anything that needs your cell is not a good idea. you can´t use your phone if someone calls you.
OSMO Owner here: The X3 fan can be switched off in the settings while recording. A RODE microphone is also sold as an accessory since this is geared toward a more prosumer market. The Cellphone (or any smaller tablet like the iPad mini or smaller) is used as a Viewfinder. It gives you more flexibility in size and allows you to tilt the display to see what you are capturing from High up and down low.
I agree, if you have to use your phone or an external device it loses it's portability. Imagine you are out for a hike and want to look at the GPS (Google Maps or whatever...) or you want to call someone, play music, snapchat, instagram... Or just save your phone battery! With the Karma, you don't need to worry about any of that and you can even use the Karma Grip to charge your phone battery when you are not using it... GoPro is a clear winner, video quality looks better, AND you have a camera that you can use for other stuff, it's not part of the gimbal...
yeah, or $400 for the Camera (assuming you want the Hero5 Black) and $300 for the gimbal (assuming you are willing to wait for its stand-alone release). Otherwise: $1099 for the Karma Black Bundle (Hero5 Black, Drone + Controller, Stabilizer, and Backpack).
The audio on the Hero5 is dreadful and GoPro's support is shocking. They have admitted there is an issue with the audio and are producing a new batch of units however they're now ignoring my emails which we have been exchanging for about the last 3 months. If you have a Hero5 try it yourself. Record some audio with the connections door on and closed, then remove it and do the same. The audio becomes incredibly muffled. GoPro's initial suggestion was not to remove the door, however I then pointed out that suggestion makes my Karma Grip worthless. The support agent then retracted her idea. Make of that what you will.
This wasn't a good comparison. Dji osmo wins in a whole mile. The app has a feature that helps you adjust shutter and iso. Go pro you have to set it through the button options and takes a little while. The osmo again comes with a wide variety of accessories (that should come with it but doesnt) bottom line dji osmo wins the go pro karma stick should've been water proof that would've sold world wide.
but about video quality Osmo lose. i work with both and bitrate of osmo is very poor and compression is problematic, after edit you have a horrible file. Gopro isn't.
they one thing that annoyed me is when you said "one comes from a drone company one comes from a camera company. DJI have been making cameras for a long long long time and even the drones they produce are soely for filming purposes, so that was really a useless comment that made gopro sound superior when in that particular case, they are not, other than that very insightful i'm still torn between the two because i love that you can take the camera out of the gopro gimbal and use it for other things but i love the control of the osmo
Yeah sure, they would just let their products fall out of the sky position themselves in a personal liability scenario. What freaking drugs are you on or do you just work for the idiots that built and marketed that piece of crap Karma? LOL
I had the original Osmo but I sold it whereas I could never sell my GoPro. They are different camera and the Osmo is not a special camera in any way. Action cameras on the other hand can do things other cameras, including the Osmo, can’t. The Osmo was too limited, lousy audio, and biggest problem was the reliance on the phone. It was a crap idea to make it depend on the phone like that. For a drone - yes, but not for a camera in the hand. And now we have the Osmo Action which is way better than the original Osmo, but apart from the front screen, it is not as good as the Hero 7. There is a reason GoPro survives in action cameras while others come and go - just like DJI experience in drones makes them better, GoPro’s experience in action cameras gives them the edge.
If you are spending $500-$600 on a gimbal stabilized camera, I would guess you already have a smartphone. or you can go to walmart and buy a $40 POS of a smartphone that works just fine. (I say this from experience with my Osmo)
I have the DJI Osmo, great camera, but the app is the worst. Now just works with Iphone and few android devices. I have Samsung S 7 edge and doesnt works. Plus black screen and no one can fix it. Customer Service is the worst, cero solutions. Maybe Gopro is inferior but they have excelent customer service. I will go fro Karma grip....
do youtubers even listen to their videos before uploading? Most of your video is really quiet, and then at the end you add a really loud and annoying sound effect. Maybe get an audio guy
Pelease do your research before making a video . And atleast try to test the items . Because it's obvious you didn't since you got nothing to say about them
Let me Break it down Better than this guy:Ozmo vs GoPro 1• The Ozmo has attachments that you can put to make sound and filming Much better than The GoPro 2•It's kinda noisey for a reason, it has motors in it that makes it more steady than GoPro Because GoPro depends on balance A little bit •3 it's cheaper for a nice video filming And audio improvements or video improvements if you want to its basically up to you which is nice and not like the GoPro,the GoPro feels like you are basically forced to use camera mic which doesn't make sense if they want it a high price. I saved minutes of your life thank me later
you can get the gopro karma grip and gimbal without the drone for $299
no camera
i really thank you for your wonderful and usefull video that help me to know which is the best camera for me. Thank you, you are so good.
you cracked me up when you made that face, "I like'm both..."
Did I miss it? I didnt see why you went with the OSMO? I have a DJI Phatom 4. I love it. I also use a TON of GoPros and love them.
Thanks for making this video,
There is 3rd party application support for osmo such as vertical studio application which make osmo more useful.
This video was like the equivalent of asking a kid which one does he/she like more and why? They then respond back by saying "This one cause I said so." and then they run off. You didn't really say why you liked the Osmo over the GoPro.
Stevo Philo maybe because the gopro costs 1100$ total?!
no its $550 and the osmo is $346 but with the gopro you have a camera you can dive with and mount on more things than I care to list of course you can get the gopro setup for $500 even if you go with the Hero 2018 insead of the Hero 5. oh and watterproff to 10m
The Gopro stabilizer looks awesome. They are $299 on the gopro website so I will for sure be getting one!
Do you know if they ever have sales? $300 hurts a lot.
Did they change the battery situation, or do you actually have to get spare grip handles (not gimbal) to carry spares?
"The OSMO comes from a Drone Maker" This is incorrect. DJI is a creative filmography company who happens to make drones as a Filmmakers tool. They are just the best game in town for drones because of how steady they make them. It's right here in their mission statement: www.dji.com/company
DJI started making flight controllers for helis!
Show it on a Mountainbike or fast driving open car or boat. The osmo would be blown away with the handy on its side
True that!
How to use a gimbal for selfie? Can it mount with 3-way or selfie stick?
In addition to stabilation which one gives better video quality. Osmo or hero 6?
Good video. Only thing that was failed to mention is that the price of $799 for the karma bundle (with drone) doesn't include a camera. With a hero 5 there would be an extra cost of $399.
Now $299
This guys the man!
thank you
Hello 0:21 0:30 what is this music ?
How about Gopro hero 6?
Price is off... Go pro is $299 by itself. But if you get the whole package than yea it's pricey
About $600 if bought separately but you might want to go for the new Hero 6 for $100 more.
799 US dollars for a whole kit? Stabiliser, camera and a drone? Where did you get this deal?
Right off the bat, it should have been the osmo mobile vs karma grip.. Both of those use a separate camera and are same/very similar price
Nice vid
so. osmo or gopro best choice?
There has been talk about crappy sound on the Osmo, what were your thoughts?
I have an osmo, the internal mic is crap, no doubt about it, but you can plug in an external microphone to the microphone jack on the Osmo and the audio is quite good then. (I use a rode videomicro, but DJI includes a fairly decent external microphone in the package itself.
Battery life?
DJI should be considered a "camera maker" at this point (not just a "drone maker" like he says in the video)
Nice video!!! What's the battery life like on both ?
Battery life on the Osmo is about 30min at 4K. The GoPro with Karma Grip is 2 hours plus at 4K. I have both and the Osmo battery life is a big problem.
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So in terms of video quality which is better?
They both use Sony as their sensor supplier so roughly the same. -Color grading on both are extremely subjective because of this.
if you already have a gopro camera you can get the karma grip by itself without a camera for $299
The cool thing about the Osmo is the fact you have a LARGE viewfinder aka your smartphone. Not only that but you could control a ton of image quality settings with the DJI app and it allows subject tracking and auto panoramic capture. The LCD on the GoPro is basically useless as you can see from the video..not only is it tiny from arm's distance but the gimbal arm blocks it from view. The GoPro's advantage is it's removable from the gimbal and waterproof. I don't own any GoPros but I do own a smartphone so for me the Osmo would be my pick and not just for that reason. DJI also offers the Osmo Mobile which you could use with your own camera phone and it costs only $299.
Battery life on the Osmo is really bad. About 30mins at 4K. The GoPro with the Karma Grips is 2hrs plus. I have both and for me the GoPro/Karma Grip wins every time. The Osmo doesn't suffer from as much fish eye as the GoPro and it has an external mike input, big plus for the Osmo, but the image quality can't match the GoPro with ProTunes turned on. So all in all the GoPro win hands down for me.
I guess it does not comes with the drone anymore!
The Karma drone is junk.
Thank you for your nuanced, in-depth appraisal.
Its actually a pretty damn good drone. Have one myself!
hi, I suppose the DJI osmo isn't waterproof... The Gopro you van take it out and go underwater with...
Lol, remember you don't need to buy the Karma solution. Just buy Hero5 Black and Karma Grip separately. That is cheaper.
Just got the Hero5 for 340. Is there ever a sale on the Karma Grip?
Yeah, it is expensive
Save the $200 for buying a better drone if you want a drone.
Didn't say shit about video quality. Horrible comparison
the compression on Osmo is poor, bitrate variable between 35mbps, Gopro is 60mbps and more solid. after edit a osmo file you have a horrible rendered movie.
why would you go with the osmo? it is noisy and that means that the microphone will pick up that noise. i have already seen a youtuber complain about that and yes, noise was recorded on the video footage...that right there is major FAIL. plus anything that needs your cell is not a good idea. you can´t use your phone if someone calls you.
OSMO Owner here: The X3 fan can be switched off in the settings while recording. A RODE microphone is also sold as an accessory since this is geared toward a more prosumer market. The Cellphone (or any smaller tablet like the iPad mini or smaller) is used as a Viewfinder. It gives you more flexibility in size and allows you to tilt the display to see what you are capturing from High up and down low.
EX Osmo owner here: Sold it within a week as the picture noise was god awful. No chance of using it in a prosumer video. No way.
imdurc how was the picture noise off? Was it really worse than the alternatives around the same price? My personal favorite is 2.7K at 30fps
James M I wouldn't know about the alternative gimbal/cameras. I just went back to my bmpcc cameras.
I agree, if you have to use your phone or an external device it loses it's portability. Imagine you are out for a hike and want to look at the GPS (Google Maps or whatever...) or you want to call someone, play music, snapchat, instagram... Or just save your phone battery! With the Karma, you don't need to worry about any of that and you can even use the Karma Grip to charge your phone battery when you are not using it... GoPro is a clear winner, video quality looks better, AND you have a camera that you can use for other stuff, it's not part of the gimbal...
I have an idea Tito :) you should do some giveaways...first 😉 I won
Isn't the Karma $799 without the GoPro?
yeah, or $400 for the Camera (assuming you want the Hero5 Black) and $300 for the gimbal (assuming you are willing to wait for its stand-alone release).
Otherwise: $1099 for the Karma Black Bundle (Hero5 Black, Drone + Controller, Stabilizer, and Backpack).
pretty bad comparison in that way, he is comparing a stabilized camera vs a camera that can be stabilized, and a fucking drone...
the karma grip is $299 without the camera
The Karma is discontinued.
What do you mean??
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You didn’t count the phone you need to use with the dji osmo.
dude tf is that music in intro
The audio on the Hero5 is dreadful and GoPro's support is shocking. They have admitted there is an issue with the audio and are producing a new batch of units however they're now ignoring my emails which we have been exchanging for about the last 3 months. If you have a Hero5 try it yourself. Record some audio with the connections door on and closed, then remove it and do the same. The audio becomes incredibly muffled. GoPro's initial suggestion was not to remove the door, however I then pointed out that suggestion makes my Karma Grip worthless. The support agent then retracted her idea. Make of that what you will.
let's gopro
This wasn't a good comparison. Dji osmo wins in a whole mile. The app has a feature that helps you adjust shutter and iso. Go pro you have to set it through the button options and takes a little while. The osmo again comes with a wide variety of accessories (that should come with it but doesnt) bottom line dji osmo wins the go pro karma stick should've been water proof that would've sold world wide.
You can change the ProTune settings for the GoPro in the Capture app.
The karma stick is not waterproof?
Yowzoe you would wish it could but it can't sadly...
but about video quality Osmo lose. i work with both and bitrate of osmo is very poor and compression is problematic, after edit you have a horrible file. Gopro isn't.
they one thing that annoyed me is when you said "one comes from a drone company one comes from a camera company. DJI have been making cameras for a long long long time and even the drones they produce are soely for filming purposes, so that was really a useless comment that made gopro sound superior when in that particular case, they are not, other than that very insightful i'm still torn between the two because i love that you can take the camera out of the gopro gimbal and use it for other things but i love the control of the osmo
LOL!! Can GoPro beat DJI at anything?!?!
action cameras (I say this as a person who has a DJI Osmo and absolutely loves it)
Button up your shirt please.
No reason for choosing osmo over GoPro ???
The other difference is DJI never had a recall, where GoPro total recall of the Karma one month into sales. What a piece of crap! LOL
Yeah, but if that's also because if they did need a recall they probably wouldn't do it anyways.
Yeah sure, they would just let their products fall out of the sky position themselves in a personal liability scenario. What freaking drugs are you on or do you just work for the idiots that built and marketed that piece of crap Karma? LOL
Osmo's image quality doesn't look as good. Don't understand the verdict at all in light of the comparisons, honestly
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imo gopro wins. in terms of drones, karma sucks
The phone integration is really stupid imo
I had the original Osmo but I sold it whereas I could never sell my GoPro. They are different camera and the Osmo is not a special camera in any way. Action cameras on the other hand can do things other cameras, including the Osmo, can’t. The Osmo was too limited, lousy audio, and biggest problem was the reliance on the phone. It was a crap idea to make it depend on the phone like that. For a drone - yes, but not for a camera in the hand. And now we have the Osmo Action which is way better than the original Osmo, but apart from the front screen, it is not as good as the Hero 7. There is a reason GoPro survives in action cameras while others come and go - just like DJI experience in drones makes them better, GoPro’s experience in action cameras gives them the edge.
You're getting bashed in the comments for being bias.
Kinda meaningless price on the Osmo if you need a smartphone with it
If you are spending $500-$600 on a gimbal stabilized camera, I would guess you already have a smartphone. or you can go to walmart and buy a $40 POS of a smartphone that works just fine. (I say this from experience with my Osmo)
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They both shoot pretty crappy video too, still waiting for the action camera world to step up it's image quality!
agreed!
I have the DJI Osmo, great camera, but the app is the worst. Now just works with Iphone and few android devices. I have Samsung S 7 edge and doesnt works. Plus black screen and no one can fix it. Customer Service is the worst, cero solutions. Maybe Gopro is inferior but they have excelent customer service. I will go fro Karma grip....
Can GoPro shot Full Hd in 120fps? Osmo yes
Yes it can.
ZavaksTV actally yes gopro hero 5 goes 1080 120 fps dumb ass
Hero 6 does
Dji is a gimbal maker not a drone maker
They do both and more.
I rate this video a solid 1.63 out of 10, just bc it's really bad.
If you don't like the Gopro can I get it than? Xd
do youtubers even listen to their videos before uploading? Most of your video is really quiet, and then at the end you add a really loud and annoying sound effect. Maybe get an audio guy
Go pro killed it. Even the footage looked better. I have a mavic and hero 5, GoPro is killing the quality game compared to dji.
Winner without saying batterie time, full resolution, reliability, weatherproof? Go make videos for kids instead
Pelease do your research before making a video . And atleast try to test the items . Because it's obvious you didn't since you got nothing to say about them
Complete waste of my precious 2.42mins. Now I want a refund
"The gopro has a built in screen" yeah that you can't see!!
Osmo is the great than shitty gopro,also dji more rich than shitty gopro
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Let me Break it down Better than this guy:Ozmo vs GoPro
1• The Ozmo has attachments that you can put to make sound and filming Much better than The GoPro
2•It's kinda noisey for a reason, it has motors in it that makes it more steady than GoPro Because GoPro depends on balance A little bit
•3 it's cheaper for a nice video filming And audio improvements or video improvements if you want to its basically up to you which is nice and not like the GoPro,the GoPro feels like you are basically forced to use camera mic which doesn't make sense if they want it a high price.
I saved minutes of your life thank me later
S41F the steadiness was not anywhere near as good as the karma grip
Still no availability date for the Karma Grip
Yup, ordered and due to collect in NYC on Friday 16th.