I am a ROOKIE at wood working. I learned the HARD way about buying cheap tools. I brought a REAL CHEAP hand planer. It should be sold for scrape metal! I had some Arkansas wet stones & the more I tried to put a edge on the blade the worst it got. I made my first wood working bench & then made a cabinet to put my tools in. That plane sits on top with a sign the states "My First Hand Plane". Next one was a lot better plus I watched his film about sharping your jack plane blades. I brought 3 grades of the DIAMOND stones. WOW!!! I put those other stones next to the plane. I heard Mr. Cosman has classes at his shop. I would love to go but have never heard the price. But I am a retired Police Officer & I had to retire because I had 5 back operations. So I don't know if I could afford to go. I have learned so much just from watching his films. So much better than the other guys.
I'm a recent convert to Rob's freehand sharpening technique...I'm still learning but I can testify that the equipment that Rob suggests makes the difference. I used to use Norton stones and a jig. Now, it's so nice to be able to pause while working to sharpen. I'm not down to 32 seconds to sharp but perhaps one day. Smaller blades are still a challenge though.
I appreciate your hand plane story. I always thought that they were just an expensive Chinese knockoff. Thank you for telling this story…and all that you do for those in need!!! Go Cougars!
Just had a chance to watch the Saturday Q&A really informative, thanks to everyone involved, love to see the standing desk never tire of seeing the pencil drawers
I believe Tom Mc Laughlin just showed how to install the knife/scissors hinge on one of his recent shows. Very good coverage of topic Also Finewoodworking has several articles and likely a video
I’m glad no one a few year younger shouted out the other OPP term from our friends in Naughty by Nature… Side Note: That would be a cool workshop name; Knotty by Nature. -Sean [Toronto]
Hi Rob. Would you plane a flat table top made of solid wood? I'm working on a table that's going to be 30 x 36" and would like a perfectly flat surface without reverting to any sanding. Possible? You've probably addressed this question in one of your videos. If so, I would appreciate pointing me in the right direction. Thanks for sharing your expertise, I learn a great deal from your videos. Cheers, Paul.
Great video again. I was able to just watch it now. I do have a question. How do you fix a loose lever cap screw? Its the 5 1/2 planer i got from you folks. It planes beautifully. Your prep work in my opinion is what ups the plane to a high end plane, but each time I adjust the blade, the lever cap loosens and moves. Kidda frustrating. I have to remove and reset the lever cap and go thru the whole process of aligning the blade and bringing in the blade, slowly bringing it out... etc. Your teachings. I follow it. Thank you.
On the standing desk top, what grit did rob sand to to get the same sheen as the hand planed surfaces seeing as a sanded surface will take finish different than a planed surface? Or don’t you find that its a noticeable difference?
I missed this event, trying to catch up. I posted elsewhere. But I still have 2 questions: 1) the lateral adjustment on my #4 1/2 is actually too low - doesn't engage the blade slot, and slips out. I tried to bend it up but it's still "iffy" and jumps when I try to adjust it. Too late to return it. Can it be bent up enough without damaging the rivet? 2) At some point, can you show a planed board with a raking light, I'd like to see the polished finish. I don't have an issue with plane tracks so much, more it seems that it looks like there would be nicks too small to feel. I assume that's still my sharpening that needs improving but I even regressed and tried a jig, to make sure I was even across the edge - not missing 1000 Trend scratches on the 16000 glass.
Rob, The woodworking, technique, and instruction are par excellence! But I’d be holding back if I didn’t acknowledge the quality of the rarer ingredient, shopmosphere! There are occasions when I check in just for some shop time! Thanks for sharing.
Rob Cosman needs to make a “shooting glove”, 3 days of squaring up drawer sides, bottoms, and fronts on a shooting board wore a giant groove in my palm
At about 1:38:00 in, you mention the HoneRite (which I use). Yours always looks that pale green. Mine starts there, but over about 2 weeks-ish, it goes away, looks clear - or at least not green (it's in an opaque spray bottle). My trend doesn't rust, and tools only if I leave drops on it get the dark spots, but not really rust. I'm using the recommended amount. Am I losing effectiveness?
Hi Rob. I recently got my trend diamond stone from you to add to my16,000 Shapton. The issue I am having is I sharpen my 5 1/2 wood river according to your instructions and I only get 4 or 5 cuts on a piece of maple before it has no edge left. Same thing is happening with pine but I get a few more cuts. What could be going on? I did reset the primary bevel using sandpaper and progressed from 80 grit through to the 300 on the trend using a blade guide then switched to the secondary bevel on the 1000 then the turshiary on the 16,000. It almost feels like a burr is being created and is very rough from cutting the wood. Would the sandpaper have taken out the hardness of the blade causing it to become weak? What are your thoughts? What would you suggest? Thanks
We have run into a few blades with the same issue and always solved it bu grinding back the primary bevel about 1/32 of an inch. My guess is the edge my have lost its temper in manufacturing and you need to grind past that
Does anyone know what I’m doing wrong as I’m finding my chip breaker edge has a lot of damage but the plane blade does not? Relatively new blade and I would say lightly used so definitely something I’m doing wrong. My other chip breaker off my other woodriver plane is fine. Not sure which plane, 5 1/2 or 7, the damaged one is off of. Didn’t notice on disassembly to sharpen
I can't help but wonder if Rob's rant on Wood River plane history stems from Rex Krueger's live stream the other day where Rex expressed his feeling that Wood River is a Chinese (or similar) rip off of Lie Neilson.
How come rob never talks about Veritas planes i know all the Veritas planes use a Norris - type adjuster some people dont like that ut there planes are high quality made in Canada at very good pricing with 3 different material types for the blades i guess he doesn't talk about them because there competition to him .Veritas is a very good option with great customer service.
What are you planing? How thick are your shavings? The edge begins to deteriorate almost immediately, but very slowly at first. Too difficult to give a specific time frame.
2 sides and 2 ends of each piece? I would double check your sharpening methods. Maple tends to have mineral deposits, they’ll take the edge off almost immediately.
I recently bought the WoodRiver 4 1/2 smoothing plane. I now have some regret not going with the 5.5. Is it worth biting the bullet getting the 5 1/2 for $269.00?
Hey Mitch, I'll preface this by saying that my wife thinks I'm a weirdo... On days that I don't have anything that needs planing in the shop, I find wood that needs to be dimensioned for the next day, just so I have an excuse to use my 5 1/2.
Knowing there's a 30% chance of getting a parallelogram WoodRiver plane, anyone know the percentage from Lie-Nielsen? I'd love to support Rob but it doesn't make sense if I could get a better plane that is less expensive after having to buy a 12" bench top sander ($350) and metal disk ($50). It's extremely disappointing that this is the state of affairs.
Yes, those are a go for us here. They're currently out of stock, but if you sign up for notifications, you'll get an e-mail when you can purchase. I'm currently on the wait list as well.
Every single time I build the “case” for my drawers I always rush it because I want to get to the drawers lol...then of course regret that I didn’t spend enough time making sure the case is square and parallel ...BIG MISTAKE
Get your wife a dead cat sweater and she will love you more! Cozy is the best word I can describe it with. patssecretgarden.com they call it a fleece, top left on the apparel page.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I’ve always heard good things from other furniture makers about fixing up old Stanley’s as a cost effective way to get hand planes. I was a bit surprised you didn’t think it was worth doing. (Appreciate you taking the time to respond)
if you ever get a chance to compare apples to apples it will be more than evident. The new planes like LN and WR are substantial. The mass and accuracy of the milling makes for a solid feel and even sound when running over a board. Hard to adequately put in words but instantly evident in your hand.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking that’s fair. I always thought of Stanley as a budget option. LN and WR, and Veritas all make gorgeous hand planes, but they are also much more expensive then a Stanley from an estate sale. Do you think it’s worth it for those new to the craft to start with Stanley’s and buy a premiums planes for the ones they use often?
@@grantwilliams630 Stanleys are adequate and worked for generations. If you're on the fence about it, buy a vintage 4 or 5 1/2 Stanley and restore it. If nothing else, you'll learn a ton about planes and the restoration process is good to know for other things such as hand saws. I will say this though, I bought a new Hock Tools blade for my Stanley planes, and that alone was a night and day difference. I would imagine modern materials and engineering take the entire plane to a whole new level. I'm saving to get a WR 5 1/2 now.
@@DonChartier Yeah I found the plans on his website. I tried to erase that question before everyone realized I was an idiot but I guess it didn't get deleted. Thanks for the reply though.
@@rickhammar1636 I just finished my Cosman bench, the one with the MDF top, not like his Maple masterpiece, and my only regret is that I allowed an inadequate, rickety workbench I inherited to 'suffice' for so long. It's rock solid, doesn't budge, and maintenance free. More than adequate to get started and would come in handy when you do develop the skills and confidence to tackle your dream bench.
It’s the part of the plane that the blade sits atop. It can be slid back and forth along the plane’s body, tightening up the mouth opening to control tearout or making it wider to allow a thicker shaving to pass through. Why it is called the frog, I do not know.
@@przybyla420 frog in your throat! Regardless of the plane type, a frog too tight in the throat leads quickly to choking if the depth of cut is even a fraction too much or the cap iron is set too tight (close) to the cutting edge, chokes easily no matter the type. Source: Paul Sellers blog
The almost constant interruption from Jake when Rob is trying to answer a question frustrates me. It's not just limited to this video either, it's just something that now that I've noticed it I can't ignore it.
I am a ROOKIE at wood working. I learned the HARD way about buying cheap tools. I brought a REAL CHEAP hand planer. It should be sold for scrape metal! I had some Arkansas wet stones & the more I tried to put a edge on the blade the worst it got. I made my first wood working bench & then made a cabinet to put my tools in. That plane sits on top with a sign the states "My First Hand Plane". Next one was a lot better plus I watched his film about sharping your jack plane blades. I brought 3 grades of the DIAMOND stones. WOW!!! I put those other stones next to the plane. I heard Mr. Cosman has classes at his shop. I would love to go but have never heard the price. But I am a retired Police Officer & I had to retire because I had 5 back operations. So I don't know if I could afford to go. I have learned so much just from watching his films. So much better than the other guys.
10 months too late, but thanks Rob, for what you do for our vets. I have been thinking about a new plane. Now i know which one to buy.
The Adjstar is the best thing you can do for your plane use, so easy to adjust while using... plane and simple....
love a review on our site, bottom of each page. thanks.
I'm a recent convert to Rob's freehand sharpening technique...I'm still learning but I can testify that the equipment that Rob suggests makes the difference. I used to use Norton stones and a jig. Now, it's so nice to be able to pause while working to sharpen. I'm not down to 32 seconds to sharp but perhaps one day. Smaller blades are still a challenge though.
Keep practicing and you will get faster
I'm not a woodworker but find these videos really enjoyable to watch and learn; and that desk is beautiful...Well done Rob and Team👏
Thanks
Abdullah from Oman. Thanks Rob I learned a lot from you.
Nice to hear, enjoy!
I appreciate your hand plane story. I always thought that they were just an expensive Chinese knockoff. Thank you for telling this story…and all that you do for those in need!!! Go Cougars!
Just had a chance to watch the Saturday Q&A really informative, thanks to everyone involved, love to see the standing desk never tire of seeing the pencil drawers
I love that piece too
I believe Tom Mc Laughlin just showed how to install the knife/scissors hinge on one of his recent shows. Very good coverage of topic
Also Finewoodworking has several articles and likely a video
Right of the Line!! 214 Infantry Battalion!!! Where did you get that patch!? Glad to see it!
I’m glad no one a few year younger shouted out the other OPP term from our friends in Naughty by Nature…
Side Note: That would be a cool workshop name; Knotty by Nature.
-Sean
[Toronto]
Hi Rob. Would you plane a flat table top made of solid wood? I'm working on a table that's going to be 30 x 36" and would like a perfectly flat surface without reverting to any sanding. Possible? You've probably addressed this question in one of your videos. If so, I would appreciate pointing me in the right direction. Thanks for sharing your expertise, I learn a great deal from your videos. Cheers, Paul.
Great video again. I was able to just watch it now. I do have a question. How do you fix a loose lever cap screw? Its the 5 1/2 planer i got from you folks. It planes beautifully. Your prep work in my opinion is what ups the plane to a high end plane, but each time I adjust the blade, the lever cap loosens and moves. Kidda frustrating. I have to remove and reset the lever cap and go thru the whole process of aligning the blade and bringing in the blade, slowly bringing it out... etc. Your teachings. I follow it. Thank you.
On the standing desk top, what grit did rob sand to to get the same sheen as the hand planed surfaces seeing as a sanded surface will take finish different than a planed surface? Or don’t you find that its a noticeable difference?
I missed this event, trying to catch up. I posted elsewhere. But I still have 2 questions:
1) the lateral adjustment on my #4 1/2 is actually too low - doesn't engage the blade slot, and slips out. I tried to bend it up but it's still "iffy" and jumps when I try to adjust it. Too late to return it. Can it be bent up enough without damaging the rivet?
2) At some point, can you show a planed board with a raking light, I'd like to see the polished finish. I don't have an issue with plane tracks so much, more it seems that it looks like there would be nicks too small to feel. I assume that's still my sharpening that needs improving but I even regressed and tried a jig, to make sure I was even across the edge - not missing 1000 Trend scratches on the 16000 glass.
Rob,
The woodworking, technique, and instruction are par excellence!
But I’d be holding back if I didn’t acknowledge the quality of the rarer ingredient, shopmosphere!
There are occasions when I check in just for some shop time!
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks
You Tube let me down... Didn't receive a notification of this livestream. Oh well, I'll enjoy it now!
HI Dave, make sure your newsletter sub is active, we always send out notices.
Thanks for the chat. I feel I learned a lot from you.
Glad to hear it!
Rob Cosman needs to make a “shooting glove”, 3 days of squaring up drawer sides, bottoms, and fronts on a shooting board wore a giant groove in my palm
I have a No 6 plane with a detachable knob that goes on the top side when shooting - works a treat.
I know what you mean
At about 1:38:00 in, you mention the HoneRite (which I use). Yours always looks that pale green. Mine starts there, but over about 2 weeks-ish, it goes away, looks clear - or at least not green (it's in an opaque spray bottle). My trend doesn't rust, and tools only if I leave drops on it get the dark spots, but not really rust. I'm using the recommended amount. Am I losing effectiveness?
Don cherry of woodshop🤙
Hi Rob. I recently got my trend diamond stone from you to add to my16,000 Shapton. The issue I am having is I sharpen my 5 1/2 wood river according to your instructions and I only get 4 or 5 cuts on a piece of maple before it has no edge left. Same thing is happening with pine but I get a few more cuts. What could be going on? I did reset the primary bevel using sandpaper and progressed from 80 grit through to the 300 on the trend using a blade guide then switched to the secondary bevel on the 1000 then the turshiary on the 16,000. It almost feels like a burr is being created and is very rough from cutting the wood. Would the sandpaper have taken out the hardness of the blade causing it to become weak? What are your thoughts? What would you suggest? Thanks
We have run into a few blades with the same issue and always solved it bu grinding back the primary bevel about 1/32 of an inch. My guess is the edge my have lost its temper in manufacturing and you need to grind past that
Does anyone know what I’m doing wrong as I’m finding my chip breaker edge has a lot of damage but the plane blade does not? Relatively new blade and I would say lightly used so definitely something I’m doing wrong. My other chip breaker off my other woodriver plane is fine. Not sure which plane, 5 1/2 or 7, the damaged one is off of. Didn’t notice on disassembly to sharpen
Rob i'm impressed with you expertise. I have 1 question what does it cost to attend one of your classes?
6 day, (8am to 11pm), all three meals included, $2k USD.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking not bad and your located in Vermont? How often do you have classes available?
I can't help but wonder if Rob's rant on Wood River plane history stems from Rex Krueger's live stream the other day where Rex expressed his feeling that Wood River is a Chinese (or similar) rip off of Lie Neilson.
Good guess Gary.
How come rob never talks about Veritas planes i know all the Veritas planes use a Norris - type adjuster some people dont like that ut there planes are high quality made in Canada at very good pricing with 3 different material types for the blades i guess he doesn't talk about them because there competition to him .Veritas is a very good option with great customer service.
Great great video as always. I always wanted to know_ what is the what looks like a stand underneath the wagon vice end of your bench used for?
Nothing is there? What do you see?
@@RobCosmanWoodworking may be not there now but going back a little while ago you had what looked like a trypod to me
Probably the deadman
How long can you expect the plane blade to remain sharp?
What are you planing? How thick are your shavings? The edge begins to deteriorate almost immediately, but very slowly at first. Too difficult to give a specific time frame.
Bird's eye, about 3/8 thick on a shooting board. Lasted me about 4 pieces before it's too hard to push well.
2 sides and 2 ends of each piece? I would double check your sharpening methods. Maple tends to have mineral deposits, they’ll take the edge off almost immediately.
One of these years I'm going to sign up for a class. Would be an honor to just be near you guys.
I recently bought the WoodRiver 4 1/2 smoothing plane. I now have some regret not going with the 5.5. Is it worth biting the bullet getting the 5 1/2 for $269.00?
you will love it!
Hey Mitch, I'll preface this by saying that my wife thinks I'm a weirdo...
On days that I don't have anything that needs planing in the shop, I find wood that needs to be dimensioned for the next day, just so I have an excuse to use my 5 1/2.
Why do you use you sharpening stones/diamond plates so low below the table top ? Sue and mike Lakewood Ca.
You should watch my sharpening video!! Its easier to hold the proper arm position that way
Thank you
Knowing there's a 30% chance of getting a parallelogram WoodRiver plane, anyone know the percentage from Lie-Nielsen? I'd love to support Rob but it doesn't make sense if I could get a better plane that is less expensive after having to buy a 12" bench top sander ($350) and metal disk ($50). It's extremely disappointing that this is the state of affairs.
Are we live?
not anymore
Hey Rob, are we able to buy the Adjustar in the US?
Yes, those are a go for us here. They're currently out of stock, but if you sign up for notifications, you'll get an e-mail when you can purchase. I'm currently on the wait list as well.
Yes you ate
Every single time I build the “case” for my drawers I always rush it because I want to get to the drawers lol...then of course regret that I didn’t spend enough time making sure the case is square and parallel ...BIG MISTAKE
I have the same disease!
How do you register for your draws thanks Gary
It was in the live chat.
Cathy you have to doit while the event is live.
Dan from Berkley, Michigan
Hi dan
fluffy Rob
Get your wife a dead cat sweater and she will love you more! Cozy is the best word I can describe it with. patssecretgarden.com they call it a fleece, top left on the apparel page.
Interesting. Kind of surprised by the old plane advice tbh
whcih part, buy new?
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I’ve always heard good things from other furniture makers about fixing up old Stanley’s as a cost effective way to get hand planes. I was a bit surprised you didn’t think it was worth doing.
(Appreciate you taking the time to respond)
if you ever get a chance to compare apples to apples it will be more than evident. The new planes like LN and WR are substantial. The mass and accuracy of the milling makes for a solid feel and even sound when running over a board. Hard to adequately put in words but instantly evident in your hand.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking that’s fair. I always thought of Stanley as a budget option. LN and WR, and Veritas all make gorgeous hand planes, but they are also much more expensive then a Stanley from an estate sale.
Do you think it’s worth it for those new to the craft to start with Stanley’s and buy a premiums planes for the ones they use often?
@@grantwilliams630 Stanleys are adequate and worked for generations. If you're on the fence about it, buy a vintage 4 or 5 1/2 Stanley and restore it. If nothing else, you'll learn a ton about planes and the restoration process is good to know for other things such as hand saws. I will say this though, I bought a new Hock Tools blade for my Stanley planes, and that alone was a night and day difference. I would imagine modern materials and engineering take the entire plane to a whole new level. I'm saving to get a WR 5 1/2 now.
This is not a plane question but I want to build a new work bench. Do you have a video or plans for yours?
He does. Check his other videos and website.
@@DonChartier Yeah I found the plans on his website. I tried to erase that question before everyone realized I was an idiot but I guess it didn't get deleted. Thanks for the reply though.
@@rickhammar1636 I just finished my Cosman bench, the one with the MDF top, not like his Maple masterpiece, and my only regret is that I allowed an inadequate, rickety workbench I inherited to 'suffice' for so long. It's rock solid, doesn't budge, and maintenance free. More than adequate to get started and would come in handy when you do develop the skills and confidence to tackle your dream bench.
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What's the frog? Rob was cut off when he was explaining it.
;-)
It’s the part of the plane that the blade sits atop. It can be slid back and forth along the plane’s body, tightening up the mouth opening to control tearout or making it wider to allow a thicker shaving to pass through. Why it is called the frog, I do not know.
@@przybyla420 thanks very much!
what they said
@@przybyla420 frog in your throat!
Regardless of the plane type, a frog too tight in the throat leads quickly to choking if the depth of cut is even a fraction too much or the cap iron is set too tight (close) to the cutting edge, chokes easily no matter the type.
Source: Paul Sellers blog
very very nice padmanabhan v india
Thanks
I missed it
but its on tape
8:43 Too funny.
The almost constant interruption from Jake when Rob is trying to answer a question frustrates me. It's not just limited to this video either, it's just something that now that I've noticed it I can't ignore it.