Trainmaster_Waffle Yes I would agree, how dare he overlook such a great detail of this gun!? Plus it has a campaign skin! Missed points he should have made.
Dude I fuckin love this pistol. You can litterally just whip the damn thing out and empty it into someone, effectivly overkilling them in a matter of milliseconds.
this is no joke I have 40 kills with it... using the martini henry if I don't kill them (which is every bullet, I sent them to 2 health) I whip that sucker out and finish them, any other sidearm isn't controllable enough for that quick finishing off when using the martini
Your voice is quite magnificent, it reminds me of this German psychiatrist I work with. It's like posh English mixed with a North-Western European tinge. Classy
goodlifeFOB because if you live you have to roll the roullete of seeing if you die or not again and its worse than actually dying because of how fucking crap this gun is.
Timeward its better than the gasser close up clusterfuck in monte grappa operations though since it has a more reliable reload in that situation. Not to mention the damage output. Its a good gun. This games weapons are a game of rock paper scissors. You pick whats best for the situation. The hawder has its own intended situations, just like the gasser or any other weapon in this game.
I have updated the TTK heat map with a slightly different formula that starts the timer at the first shot. Conclusion for the Howdah remains the same but there is a bit of a shift for the 1903 Hammerless. Full sheet available here: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lAX_8zdISXT5ZmTfR0fUH7eZc1E9Nc-GMZxqxnkUEwc/edit?usp=sharing Also: If anyone is playing on PC and fancies a match, feel free to join the "Rogues Raiders" platoon or come play on the official Rogue's Raiders server! I'm mostly on European servers but everyone is welcome to join the platoon while spaces last!
Matthew Francoeur all of the data is based on what is in the code of the game and the Kolibri stats are weird in there... things like max damage being 100... Also, as I established in the last pistol focused video, the Kolibri is kind of a practical joke in the game. It's great fun but in a serious comparison, it just doesn't stand a chance
A year late but I will still correct you, It's not a Double Action revolver since it has no revolving cylinder, therefore it is just a Double Action Break Action Handgun
@@justuraverageplayer_ I give you right. It doesn’t have a cylinder. So yes technically it’s not a revolver. But it still shares many similarities with a revolver.
It's actually fine, it does its job very well. Which is to kill people in 2 shots up close. Meaning you can kill 3 people in 1 magazine with bodyshots, making it an ideal close range backup weapon. Using it with any other purpose is simply using it wrong. It also reloads very fast compared to all the other revolvers, meaning you can keep using it even if you empty it.
Well done! I love the way you do your comparisons. Other 'tubers just read the stats verbatim from Symthic, but you put the weapons head to head and explain WHY the differences matter and how it actually translates into gameplay, much more useful. I understand some people may get bored by the length of it and just want a "So which one is best", but I appreciate the in-depth detail so I can come to my own conclusions about what works best for my style of play. I hope you keep going on the class sidearms, I need some justification that the Bulldog is my favourite sidearm for support! Fast time to draw and good ROF (and the typical revolver high close-range damage) makes it perfect for finishing off close-range enemies. It's useless at range, but that's what my primary is for (chauchat or MG15) Speaking of such, your chosen primary may make a big difference to what sidearms is most useful. Something with some range and power may be better for a class that already has face-melting CQB power like an assault, but a class who is using a more long-range oriented weapon, like a Medic or Support's optical variant weapons might appreciate something they can just spam fire when caught in a dangerous close situation. Might be something worth mentioning in the future? Also, props for actually knowing some of the actual firearms history and mechanics.
I like the bulldog with the Lewis Low-weight. It's a nice back-up for he reasons you stated. In general I've found that if you match 'realistic ' load-outs by nationality it works pretty well. For example I use the repetierpistole with the MG 15.
MisterMonkeyDevil I don't want to say the small details and it's OK use what you want but when you use the mg15 and want national sidearm you have to use the c 93 or the p08 cause they are German weapons😊
You are right but it's conceivable as Germany purchased some reptierpistoles. When on Austrian maps I tend to use the Scout 95 / Frommer Stop (24 stars with the 95 actually). I don't think the c96 is available for support though. I'll take a look. The p08 is not to my style.
These stats do all make sense, considering the gun’s intended role: defence against tigers and other large predators. Short practical range? I don’t see any tigers pulling 360° no-scopes. It would be much more practical to use a higher caliber to better counteract the tiger’s momentum, and, of course, to kill them faster. High recoil? As I said, it doesn’t matter much at closer ranges, or against large targets. Low accuracy? As I said: close range. Large target. Poor reload time? Come back to me when you have a tiger or tigress capable of tanking four consecutive rifle-caliber slugs. Sometimes even up to six.
2199, yes! That could be good. Melee weapons are basically just differently skinned versions of one another (discounting any special abilities) but going by type could be worth a closer look
Rogue-9 Not really. past the knives, they each have different abilities (damaging tanks, breaking wood, cutting barbwire), differen swing times, and different damage per swing. if you're a backstabber, get a knife. if you're a frontslasher, get a tomahawk or the sawed blade.
The advantage of the no. 3 revolver is the draw time, so if you have to pull it out in a pinch it actually has a faster TTK than other sidearms with faster raw TTKs.
Space Waffles# 325 Yes I Think so. Because of the High damage it is easier to finish off an enemy with it if you run at of ammo. I also Like that it is able to break Wood... And then i just love murdering people with a hatchet
So I'm a fairly in depth player on bf1 on console. And I saw your video on my suggested. After your first video I saw I am 100 percent impressed. On curios tho where you got all the damage charts? I've subscribed keep up the good work
I created the TTK chart myself. A slightly updated version can be found here: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lAX_8zdISXT5ZmTfR0fUH7eZc1E9Nc-GMZxqxnkUEwc/edit?usp=sharing All other info is either from here: battlefieldtracker.com/bf1/weapons Or here: symthic.com/bf1-stats
I don't know for certain but I can only guess that an immense amount of work goes into these videos but it's soooooo worth it, I really enjoy these videos. You deserve much more credit.
All the pistols need a range buff to be more practical, to be honest. They suffered a horrible nerf in BF1 compared to BF4, 3, Hardline and even Bad Company. I'm not talking scoped .44 distance, but the pistols seem to be only really viable below a tiny 25m in practice, but almost no firefights outside of the Urban environments happen below 25m unless you flank the enemy.
Your point? My point is their range has been reduced to next to nothing, compared to past battlefield titles. They are not just sidearms, they are backup guns too. They are just not good at being a backup gun. I want the ranges to be based off the ranges of BF4 based off the calibers of the sidearms in that game. The M1911 is the worst for it, having less than half it's BF4 range. The No.3 revolver for example, goes from a 2 shot kill at point blank, to a 4 shot way too fast. The .44 in past battlefield titles has been capable of even counter sniping while scoped. The No.3 can't even one shot headshot, unless you're literally shoving the barrel in the other guy's face.
I just looked up the stats from Symthic BF1: symthic.com/bf1-weapon-info?w=M1911 BF4: symthic.com/bf4-weapon-info?w=M1911 Look at the massive difference in the ranged capabilities. The BF1 M1911 has atrocious range. BF4 M1911 is a 3 shot kill up to 12 meters, BF1 version is a 4 shot already by then, that seems not too bad but by 17 meters, the BF1 M1911 becomes a 5 shot kill. That's right, 5 shots to kill, while the BF4 version doesn't become a 5 shot kill until 26 meters. Given that the BF1 maps are much more open in general, meaning the ranges are longer, this is a massive drop. On top of this the BF1 M1911 has significantly more recoil going from 0.6 up, to 2.3 up, and from 0.1 left and right, to 0.7 left and right. The recoil decrease drops from 18, to a mere 5.
+Zomb3 I've tried it for a bit and actually love the P08 Artillerie. But for the normal pistol variant I don't really like the sight picture. It feels a bit clunky
Dude I'm amazed at the amount of work you put into that heat map I really appreciate it and I hope others appreciate it also thanks a bunch for the info but even though it's not loved as a pistol I've always had a lure to this weapon for its looks it's really cool looking
I do my best and the fact is that after researching and analysing all the stats, it's important to make sure that as much info as possible is also included in the video. Even if the video gets a bit longer, sometimes, stuff just needs to get said and when things get said, time goes by. Long story short, *you're welcome* 😋
I feel like this gun would benefit on another class since it's a close quarters gun and so are pretty much all assault guns, whereas on the scout class you could use your rifle at range and use howdah pistol at close range
bf1's balance is terrible, no.3 is 7 shot kill at 35 meters, it has bad rof and reload isn't really impressive while automatico trench hasn't been nerfed even once. dice plz
Miodzio 103 Ikr when I busted my ass getting to lvl 10 Assault, I used the No. 3, I was like what the fuck this revolver is weak, has piss weak fire rate and is even worse past 10 metres
First video of yours I've ever watched. Was in my recommended for some reason. *Incredible* detail and thought put into this along with mind boggling statistics. Fucking good shit you gotta sub
I use this a lot, you just need to be a little further back and take well aimed shots instead of spamming it as fast as possible like every other gun in the assault class
This gun has the worst ads out of all Assault class pistols. So even with hanging back an taking time for each shot, every other pistol is going to be equal or better.
Awesome info love your videos of comparing weapons keep it up Also I actually like this 4 shot sidearm I will admit it has it's MAJOR flaws but it's a nice gun and with practice you got that kill
love the videos! you ain't long winded, you just want to make sure we get the details. so I have an idea for a comparison. least used bolt action rifle BUT infantry variations only!
Back to BF1 and BF4 for me.......anyway I was using this last night, at first I was thinking it sucks, but it was just operator error. I was trying to fire it too fast and my follow up shots were going slightly over my enemy. Slow down your trigger finger like you would with the gasser and it’s pretty good.
Howdah underused? I literally never saw an enemy kill me with the Gasser Revolver. And the Gasser's reload is slower than my internet connection,it just makes it terrible. Howdah is amazing.
The Howdah is my favorite sidearm. I know it's bad at long distances, but that's okay with me since I've always liked close distance weapons anyways. And the Howdah has a way faster reload than the revolvers (aside from the auto- revolver.) It's also really unique looking.
I think it should be noted that the Gasser has the ability to be "fan fired" when not ADS which gives it a much faster fire rate, I don't believe its faster than the Howdah Pistol, but it is significantly faster than the average fire rate of the Gasser of 180. And it also make it automatic (to an extent)
I discovered the howdah by accident - just unlocked it for fun and totally fell in love for it. It has good hip fire and, it's powerful af and it can outshine the obrez.
Man I love the Gasser, the put down power is the best. I've never had to land more than 3 shots to get a kill with it. A big part of that is because it is an assault class weapon and I would chose to avoid the engagement and get behind them if I'm too far away.
The Howdah was the first sidearm I ever spent Warbonds on in this game. The first time I used it, I ran out of ammo, so I switched to it, and got a double kill without even trying. This handgun certainly is a hidden gem that way more people should use
You always have great content in your videos. You've helped me prove to my friends who watch this channel with me showing them some of the guns that I use are awesome. And even some guns I would never ever touch I've picked up to try. So, thank you Rogue. I really appreciate you making these vids to help us BF1 players get better with this game and all of its guns to kill better and live longer. On our way to being shitbuckets!!!
this is the only assault pistol i use. the reason is mostly because of the awesome spin you do when you draw it but also because i usually damage my enemies significantly with gas or with my autimatico before i need to hit them with the how, which means it usualyy only takes one shot to kill them and im usually in close proximity if im playing assault.
Hey Rogue-9 there actually a variant of the howdah pistol , if i remember correctly it a DICE developer gun call Howdah Sweeper ... i saw it during Jackfrag and or Levelcapgaming beta gameplay of BF1 , also the pistol fore rate to me is how fast you can press the trigger rapidly which thus make me think i had the fastest trigger finger when emptying a pistol mag ...
The No.3 has an excessively fast draw time which makes it one of the fastest TTK if you switch to the weapon in middle of a gun fight. It even beats the auto revolver the medic uses in that situation. It's not that bad
How do they compare with headshots at different ranges? Does the Howdah maybe take the "one-deag" role? That could maybe make for an interesting advantage to the others
I love the Howdah, it's my pistol for my main assault class actually. If I have to pull my pistol as an assault class, it means I am in some *shit*. Usually that means I ran out of ammo mid killing spree, but that also means I've usually already injured my opponent and am relatively close to them so no need to ADS, which I almost never do with the Howdah. The Howdah is perfect for putting them down with their already low health, just unload all 4 rounds on the target. If I'm surrounded, yeah I'm not gonna get a follow up on another target, but let's be real, if you're surrounded in BF1, pistol or main weapon, you weren't gonna get out of that. I like using it just because it looks cool, has some awesome skins, it's a unique design, and tbh, killing someone with it just feels satisfying. It's the pistol equivalent of getting a kill with the Martini Henry for me. It just feels good.
is that the Frontiersman skin from the single player? Here I was thinking I was the only sucker who used it. the howdah pistol is the final pistol of all classes I have yet to get a service star with, nearly there though. it ain't bad as a backup gun but really only if you are right next to an enemy and hopefully he's not noticed you or he is also reloading his weapon
It would be cool if all secondaries were available to all classes but the class-specific ones will have variations Examples: Sweeper Howdah Pistol for Assault Factory Mars Auto for Scout Storm C96 for Medic Trench Repieterpistole for Support
I use it because when I'm out of ammo, the 100 hipfire spread makes sure I don't ever ADS which can be an advantage against enemies who do ADS, plus they'll already be damaged by my primary. So one shot with huge hipfire accuracy is great and should be all I need.
I personally value the number of bullets to kill which is why I tend to gravitate toward the Gasser and revolvers in general - plus, they've got neat animations even if one can take a tea break at that time. I don't mind recoil much on pistols because I find the times I do win those duels are when I take my time and make those shots count instead of spamming the trigger. So for me, the Howdah is nearly a straight upgrade to a Gasser aside from the only 4 rounds to fire portion. Oh, and nice comparison between the 1911 and Hammerless in the end there lol
Not to be captain obvious but the Howdah , 12g Automatic, no 3 revolver, selbstader 1906 all work magnificently when you aim from the groin up and let the recoil find its way to the head, I just went 48:17 on domination in Suez using howdah and 12g hunter (guns I hated at launch) they’re weapons that require skill , hence why automático, hellreigel, and federov users hate these weapons and bitch because all they Can do is spam the trigger and rack up insane killstreaks under the guise of being “good” players.
Howdah's have an interesting history, being used primarily as a self-defense gun against large animals... Far bigger targets than humans. The howdah seems to be in the game mostly for the variety and style.
when used in tandem with a shotgun, the Howdah is a beast. Combine it with the model a 10, the pump action takes a long time to act, so if you squeeze off a shot that leaves him a quarter of his health, a quick shot will bring him down easy.
You forgot the fact the howdah pistol is spun around your hand while drawing, therefore making it superior to every pistol
Trainmaster_Waffle finally someone WHO thinks like me
Trainmaster_Waffle
Yes I would agree, how dare he overlook such a great detail of this gun!? Plus it has a campaign skin! Missed points he should have made.
yeah I tap the melee button when I have it out to see it spin.
#Facts
oh shit I got pinned.... didn't expect that, thanks Rouge
Howdah hell is this gun so underused?
+The Woolly Eel 😂
The Woolly Eel lmao
😂😂
Dude I fuckin love this pistol. You can litterally just whip the damn thing out and empty it into someone, effectivly overkilling them in a matter of milliseconds.
I've started using it yesterday cause I got legendary skin for it. I meant to switch to it a long time ago but kinda forgo
"It's just like dating your wife's significantly more attractive sister, a win-win situation!"
Lmao 10/10
The Neckless-2017 best line 11/10
The Neckless if your wife is bisexual and into incest, then its a win-win-win-win situation.
Timeward i feel like you should win an award for takin it that far XD
Notice how he abruptly ends the video after saying that... maybe this actually happened lol
Nipps Welmactt I win all the awards for "thats too far" comments fam.
That 13% is probably all me. I've never seen anyone else use it.
It's been my baby ever since I got the Colonel skin. Criminally underused gun.
I do
Iare RubberDucky I use it and with the skin i got from the campaign
Iare RubberDucky I do as well I really like it
Iare RubberDucky Its rare to see it. I've been killed by it twice. It was kind of random.
You should do a serious video on the Kolibri, lmao.
but everyone knows it's broken anyways. Huge magazine capacity, small size for better vision, high firerate, pretty good reload, almost no recoil...
...insane ammo pool...
this is no joke I have 40 kills with it... using the martini henry if I don't kill them (which is every bullet, I sent them to 2 health) I whip that sucker out and finish them, any other sidearm isn't controllable enough for that quick finishing off when using the martini
The_Alpha_Unleashed listen to this legend
I never considered using the Kolibri with the Martini Henry rifle.
Your voice is quite magnificent, it reminds me of this German psychiatrist I work with. It's like posh English mixed with a North-Western European tinge. Classy
I'm German too... and I studied psychology... no wonder we sound similar 😂
Rogue-9 lol
"If you are lucky you die"
"If you are unlucky you have to reload again"
Lolwut?
goodlifeFOB because if you live you have to roll the roullete of seeing if you die or not again and its worse than actually dying because of how fucking crap this gun is.
Timeward its better than the gasser close up clusterfuck in monte grappa operations though since it has a more reliable reload in that situation. Not to mention the damage output. Its a good gun. This games weapons are a game of rock paper scissors. You pick whats best for the situation. The hawder has its own intended situations, just like the gasser or any other weapon in this game.
I have updated the TTK heat map with a slightly different formula that starts the timer at the first shot. Conclusion for the Howdah remains the same but there is a bit of a shift for the 1903 Hammerless.
Full sheet available here: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lAX_8zdISXT5ZmTfR0fUH7eZc1E9Nc-GMZxqxnkUEwc/edit?usp=sharing
Also: If anyone is playing on PC and fancies a match, feel free to join the "Rogues Raiders" platoon or come play on the official Rogue's Raiders server! I'm mostly on European servers but everyone is welcome to join the platoon while spaces last!
Love the heat map. It helps for weapon pairings, ie 1903 hammerless seems a good pair for a shotgun . You da man.
it actually changes it quite a bit, showing the real ttk advantage of the howdah, gasser and even the No. 3
Rogue-9 I liked it but why no data for the kolibri
Matthew Francoeur all of the data is based on what is in the code of the game and the Kolibri stats are weird in there... things like max damage being 100... Also, as I established in the last pistol focused video, the Kolibri is kind of a practical joke in the game. It's great fun but in a serious comparison, it just doesn't stand a chance
Matthew Francoeur its too op
Fun fact: the Howda „pistol“ is actually a double action revolver. But instead of a cylinder containing the bullets, the firing pin revolves.
A year late but I will still correct you,
It's not a Double Action revolver since it has no revolving cylinder, therefore it is just a Double Action Break Action Handgun
@@justuraverageplayer_ I give you right. It doesn’t have a cylinder. So yes technically it’s not a revolver. But it still shares many similarities with a revolver.
@@AspiLeoyes but gun nerds are very specific with their terms
@@noone-pg4lr Yea you're right. You’re talking to one.
@@AspiLeo lol💀
Once you've done all the least used weapons, u should do most used weapons and see if they deserve to be the most used.
They really need to buff the no.3 revolver. It's such a nice looking gun, but it doesn't have enough advantages compared to other guns.
#BuffKolibri
2 op
Pogo Gaming nooo...its 2 OP
It's actually fine, it does its job very well. Which is to kill people in 2 shots up close. Meaning you can kill 3 people in 1 magazine with bodyshots, making it an ideal close range backup weapon. Using it with any other purpose is simply using it wrong. It also reloads very fast compared to all the other revolvers, meaning you can keep using it even if you empty it.
Headshots should be one shots with revolvers. Everything else is fucking stupid.
8:38
"You need to reload."
Fuck no, start swinging your shovel like a madman.
Well done! I love the way you do your comparisons. Other 'tubers just read the stats verbatim from Symthic, but you put the weapons head to head and explain WHY the differences matter and how it actually translates into gameplay, much more useful.
I understand some people may get bored by the length of it and just want a "So which one is best", but I appreciate the in-depth detail so I can come to my own conclusions about what works best for my style of play.
I hope you keep going on the class sidearms, I need some justification that the Bulldog is my favourite sidearm for support! Fast time to draw and good ROF (and the typical revolver high close-range damage) makes it perfect for finishing off close-range enemies. It's useless at range, but that's what my primary is for (chauchat or MG15)
Speaking of such, your chosen primary may make a big difference to what sidearms is most useful. Something with some range and power may be better for a class that already has face-melting CQB power like an assault, but a class who is using a more long-range oriented weapon, like a Medic or Support's optical variant weapons might appreciate something they can just spam fire when caught in a dangerous close situation. Might be something worth mentioning in the future?
Also, props for actually knowing some of the actual firearms history and mechanics.
I like the bulldog with the Lewis Low-weight. It's a nice back-up for he reasons you stated. In general I've found that if you match 'realistic ' load-outs by nationality it works pretty well. For example I use the repetierpistole with the MG 15.
MisterMonkeyDevil I don't want to say the small details and it's OK use what you want but when you use the mg15 and want national sidearm you have to use the c 93 or the p08 cause they are German weapons😊
You are right but it's conceivable as Germany purchased some reptierpistoles. When on Austrian maps I tend to use the Scout 95 / Frommer Stop (24 stars with the 95 actually). I don't think the c96 is available for support though. I'll take a look. The p08 is not to my style.
MisterMonkeyDevil oh OK didnt know that.the c 96 is only for medic class but the c 93 is I think for all classes
"Ammo capacity."
I solved your "magazine size" issue.
These stats do all make sense, considering the gun’s intended role: defence against tigers and other large predators. Short practical range? I don’t see any tigers pulling 360° no-scopes. It would be much more practical to use a higher caliber to better counteract the tiger’s momentum, and, of course, to kill them faster. High recoil? As I said, it doesn’t matter much at closer ranges, or against large targets. Low accuracy? As I said: close range. Large target. Poor reload time? Come back to me when you have a tiger or tigress capable of tanking four consecutive rifle-caliber slugs. Sometimes even up to six.
How about the least used melee weapon?
It doesn't matter. It's just a melee weapon.
lol probably a bent nail shaped into a shank (nail knife)
John Cena I think the least used melee type (knifes,medium and heavy melee weapons )would be a better idea
2199, yes! That could be good. Melee weapons are basically just differently skinned versions of one another (discounting any special abilities) but going by type could be worth a closer look
Rogue-9 Not really. past the knives, they each have different abilities (damaging tanks, breaking wood, cutting barbwire), differen swing times, and different damage per swing. if you're a backstabber, get a knife. if you're a frontslasher, get a tomahawk or the sawed blade.
The advantage of the no. 3 revolver is the draw time, so if you have to pull it out in a pinch it actually has a faster TTK than other sidearms with faster raw TTKs.
Reload? Theres a reason i carry around a hatchet
+Jannich Torp 👍
Rogue-9 🍆👌🏻
You should make a video about the melee weapons 😉
Jannich Torp you use a hatchet too if you do I have a question to ask you ... would you say that the hatchet is most useful melee weapon in the game
Space Waffles# 325 Yes I Think so. Because of the High damage it is easier to finish off an enemy with it if you run at of ammo. I also Like that it is able to break Wood... And then i just love murdering people with a hatchet
"That's pretty good"
thought of idubbbz too^^
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The howda might not be best, but god damn the howda is so much fun in close range. Running it with the double barrel shotgun is stupid but hilarious
New video from Rogue 9 ....AWESOME! :D
Now that it's been so long I wish some developer just gives everyone the c96 export
It mocks me, untouchable by my mortal hands
The C93 and the Mle M1903 have a TTK at 35 m of 1.337 x-]
I love this guy. He put more work into his videos than anyone else. Keep doing what you do R9.
I don't even play BF and enjoy these vids. Good job!
What happend to your intro? I like the long version :)
Who fucking likes wasting time watching a longer intro
- OlivenickO -2 lol
+Nitro_st14 thanks for letting me know!
- OlivenickO -2 dafaq r u on m8
Yeah I much prefer the longer one!
So I'm a fairly in depth player on bf1 on console. And I saw your video on my suggested. After your first video I saw I am 100 percent impressed. On curios tho where you got all the damage charts? I've subscribed keep up the good work
I created the TTK chart myself. A slightly updated version can be found here: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lAX_8zdISXT5ZmTfR0fUH7eZc1E9Nc-GMZxqxnkUEwc/edit?usp=sharing
All other info is either from here: battlefieldtracker.com/bf1/weapons
Or here: symthic.com/bf1-stats
Rogue-9 thank you you've definitely earned my views
Awesome videos. Keep them coming you do a great job at it! They hardly feel like 15 minute vids
Why do i feel like I'm the only one who uses the least used pistol
Or any least used weapon
Nope me too
The Howdah pistol makes for a good execution gun on unsuspecting snipers. The best message I got was "Howdah you sneak up on me?"
This gun reminds me of the Cash Me Ousside Girl.
Howboudah.
The Howdah pistol is my favorite side arm tf. I had no clue I was the only person using it
SIMPLE FIX DICE: SAY THE HOWDAH WAS BASED ON ONE CUSTOMIZED ON THE FIELD BY A SOLDIER TO HAVE A SECOND FIRE MODE THAT FIRED TWO BULLETS AT ONCE
why just go with two when you could fire all four of its shots at once.
I don't know for certain but I can only guess that an immense amount of work goes into these videos but it's soooooo worth it, I really enjoy these videos. You deserve much more credit.
+edzo moniz thanks 😄
You can fucking melt two dudes super quick with this thing but if you miss a shot you're fucked
Wasn't expecting the super-short intro. Made me audibly laugh, thanks.
I thought the howdah was the most used and best assault pistol. Now that I see some facts I think I might have to make a switch.
Really love all the stats you include! Keep up the good work
All the pistols need a range buff to be more practical, to be honest. They suffered a horrible nerf in BF1 compared to BF4, 3, Hardline and even Bad Company.
I'm not talking scoped .44 distance, but the pistols seem to be only really viable below a tiny 25m in practice, but almost no firefights outside of the Urban environments happen below 25m unless you flank the enemy.
No. Beyond trolling snipers with 100+ yard pistol headshots, there's no need. It's the reason they're called 'sidearms'.
Your point? My point is their range has been reduced to next to nothing, compared to past battlefield titles. They are not just sidearms, they are backup guns too. They are just not good at being a backup gun.
I want the ranges to be based off the ranges of BF4 based off the calibers of the sidearms in that game. The M1911 is the worst for it, having less than half it's BF4 range.
The No.3 revolver for example, goes from a 2 shot kill at point blank, to a 4 shot way too fast. The .44 in past battlefield titles has been capable of even counter sniping while scoped. The No.3 can't even one shot headshot, unless you're literally shoving the barrel in the other guy's face.
Reon Thornton you gotta admit, being killed by a 100 yard pistol headshot is hilarious
I just looked up the stats from Symthic
BF1: symthic.com/bf1-weapon-info?w=M1911
BF4: symthic.com/bf4-weapon-info?w=M1911
Look at the massive difference in the ranged capabilities. The BF1 M1911 has atrocious range.
BF4 M1911 is a 3 shot kill up to 12 meters, BF1 version is a 4 shot already by then, that seems not too bad but by 17 meters, the BF1 M1911 becomes a 5 shot kill. That's right, 5 shots to kill, while the BF4 version doesn't become a 5 shot kill until 26 meters.
Given that the BF1 maps are much more open in general, meaning the ranges are longer, this is a massive drop.
On top of this the BF1 M1911 has significantly more recoil going from 0.6 up, to 2.3 up, and from 0.1 left and right, to 0.7 left and right. The recoil decrease drops from 18, to a mere 5.
Yeah, I'm guilty of such antics. The thing is that now I like the desperation of relying on shitty sidearms when your main is empty. It adds flavor.
You make such high quality content man. Deserve way more views. Subscribed!
Howda hell did i get here
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I just feel asleep and here i am
Rogue, you are freaking awesome dude! I love your videos and content!!
+Terry Hesticles thanks! 😊
I love the PO8 just because it's not much damage give it a chance dude
+Zomb3 I've tried it for a bit and actually love the P08 Artillerie. But for the normal pistol variant I don't really like the sight picture. It feels a bit clunky
What? I love the Howdah pistol. Never knew it was so unused
why do people think the c-93 is trash I've had that thing save my life many many times
Dude I'm amazed at the amount of work you put into that heat map I really appreciate it and I hope others appreciate it also thanks a bunch for the info but even though it's not loved as a pistol I've always had a lure to this weapon for its looks it's really cool looking
I always use that with the MP18 trench
Same
Oh, that's me
really like your long-winded explanation style. Thanks man :)
I do my best and the fact is that after researching and analysing all the stats, it's important to make sure that as much info as possible is also included in the video. Even if the video gets a bit longer, sometimes, stuff just needs to get said and when things get said, time goes by. Long story short, *you're welcome* 😋
i use it for its looks and great animation
I feel like this gun would benefit on another class since it's a close quarters gun and so are pretty much all assault guns, whereas on the scout class you could use your rifle at range and use howdah pistol at close range
bf1's balance is terrible, no.3 is 7 shot kill at 35 meters, it has bad rof and reload isn't really impressive while automatico trench hasn't been nerfed even once. dice plz
Miodzio 103 Ikr when I busted my ass getting to lvl 10 Assault, I used the No. 3, I was like what the fuck this revolver is weak, has piss weak fire rate and is even worse past 10 metres
Miodzio 103 it has been nerfed slightly tho they added more recoil to it but that when you ADS
jaysen lawrence they nerfed storm version, not trench. either way it's just a slight nerf.
First video of yours I've ever watched. Was in my recommended for some reason. *Incredible* detail and thought put into this along with mind boggling statistics. Fucking good shit you gotta sub
+Louis Bowls welcome! Loads more of these already out and plenty more to come!
I've been using this bitch since since I unlocked it
thanks for this. best run down of side arms ive seen !
Howdah do you do?
howdah you do
im supprised they did'nt change the howdah pistol to bowbowdah durring april fools
(cash me outside bow bow dah?)
I use this a lot, you just need to be a little further back and take well aimed shots instead of spamming it as fast as possible like every other gun in the assault class
This gun has the worst ads out of all Assault class pistols. So even with hanging back an taking time for each shot, every other pistol is going to be equal or better.
But like he said in the vid, this negates its great rpm advantage.
Just found this hidden gem of a channel.
+Chris Na aww thanks 😄
why do you always do these videos on the guns I use all the time XD every one so far it's not even funny!!
I pick the gun's that the usage rate tells me to 😀 It seems you have a contrarian taste!
Really great video. I like your style and the work you put into your videos.
howdah is still the best
Awesome info love your videos of comparing weapons keep it up
Also I actually like this 4 shot sidearm I will admit it has it's MAJOR flaws but it's a nice gun and with practice you got that kill
love the videos! you ain't long winded, you just want to make sure we get the details. so I have an idea for a comparison. least used bolt action rifle BUT infantry variations only!
Now I know why I prefer the 1903 hammerless. Thank you, this video deserves a top spot as one of the most consise and instructive in the BF1 canon.
I love this gun. Sometimes I even run into places with it when my primary is full and switch to the primary when needed, and it still works.
Back to BF1 and BF4 for me.......anyway I was using this last night, at first I was thinking it sucks, but it was just operator error. I was trying to fire it too fast and my follow up shots were going slightly over my enemy. Slow down your trigger finger like you would with the gasser and it’s pretty good.
Howdah underused? I literally never saw an enemy kill me with the Gasser Revolver. And the Gasser's reload is slower than my internet connection,it just makes it terrible. Howdah is amazing.
Love this serie of video and your irony
Ah yes, the howdah pistol, standing for "howdah hell did I just get destroyed by that"
The Howdah is my favorite sidearm. I know it's bad at long distances, but that's okay with me since I've always liked close distance weapons anyways. And the Howdah has a way faster reload than the revolvers (aside from the auto- revolver.) It's also really unique looking.
Ryan D. assault is a pretty close quarters class anyways. I almost always use the Howdah.
I love the no. 3 just because its draw time is fastest and its good at close range
I think it should be noted that the Gasser has the ability to be "fan fired" when not ADS which gives it a much faster fire rate, I don't believe its faster than the Howdah Pistol, but it is significantly faster than the average fire rate of the Gasser of 180. And it also make it automatic (to an extent)
I discovered the howdah by accident - just unlocked it for fun and totally fell in love for it. It has good hip fire and, it's powerful af and it can outshine the obrez.
Man I love the Gasser, the put down power is the best. I've never had to land more than 3 shots to get a kill with it. A big part of that is because it is an assault class weapon and I would chose to avoid the engagement and get behind them if I'm too far away.
The Howdah was the first sidearm I ever spent Warbonds on in this game. The first time I used it, I ran out of ammo, so I switched to it, and got a double kill without even trying. This handgun certainly is a hidden gem that way more people should use
I love your commentary and humour hahah
thank you for making the intro time faster is was irritating when i had to wait 10 seconds for the real vid to start
You always have great content in your videos. You've helped me prove to my friends who watch this channel with me showing them some of the guns that I use are awesome. And even some guns I would never ever touch I've picked up to try. So, thank you Rogue. I really appreciate you making these vids to help us BF1 players get better with this game and all of its guns to kill better and live longer. On our way to being shitbuckets!!!
this is the only assault pistol i use. the reason is mostly because of the awesome spin you do when you draw it but also because i usually damage my enemies significantly with gas or with my autimatico before i need to hit them with the how, which means it usualyy only takes one shot to kill them and im usually in close proximity if im playing assault.
Hey Rogue-9 there actually a variant of the howdah pistol , if i remember correctly it a DICE developer gun call Howdah Sweeper ... i saw it during Jackfrag and or Levelcapgaming beta gameplay of BF1 , also the pistol fore rate to me is how fast you can press the trigger rapidly which thus make me think i had the fastest trigger finger when emptying a pistol mag ...
The No.3 has an excessively fast draw time which makes it one of the fastest TTK if you switch to the weapon in middle of a gun fight. It even beats the auto revolver the medic uses in that situation. It's not that bad
How do they compare with headshots at different ranges? Does the Howdah maybe take the "one-deag" role? That could maybe make for an interesting advantage to the others
The headshot multiplier is 1.7 for all pistols (and most other guns too). So even the most powerful sidearms will still need a minimum of 2 shots
The only time I use the Howdah is in my dedicated close-quarters "gas 'em out" class, where it really shines in conjunction with a gas mask.
I love the Howdah, it's my pistol for my main assault class actually. If I have to pull my pistol as an assault class, it means I am in some *shit*. Usually that means I ran out of ammo mid killing spree, but that also means I've usually already injured my opponent and am relatively close to them so no need to ADS, which I almost never do with the Howdah. The Howdah is perfect for putting them down with their already low health, just unload all 4 rounds on the target. If I'm surrounded, yeah I'm not gonna get a follow up on another target, but let's be real, if you're surrounded in BF1, pistol or main weapon, you weren't gonna get out of that. I like using it just because it looks cool, has some awesome skins, it's a unique design, and tbh, killing someone with it just feels satisfying. It's the pistol equivalent of getting a kill with the Martini Henry for me. It just feels good.
is that the Frontiersman skin from the single player? Here I was thinking I was the only sucker who used it. the howdah pistol is the final pistol of all classes I have yet to get a service star with, nearly there though. it ain't bad as a backup gun but really only if you are right next to an enemy and hopefully he's not noticed you or he is also reloading his weapon
This gun is a beast you don’t ads you just spray and prey when you run out of ammo
2:31 I like how you gave that teammate a headshot
I heard someone running at me from behind... my cat-like reflexes (and a bit of panic) kicked in 😉
It would be cool if all secondaries were available to all classes but the class-specific ones will have variations
Examples:
Sweeper Howdah Pistol for Assault
Factory Mars Auto for Scout
Storm C96 for Medic
Trench Repieterpistole for Support
I use it because when I'm out of ammo, the 100 hipfire spread makes sure I don't ever ADS which can be an advantage against enemies who do ADS, plus they'll already be damaged by my primary. So one shot with huge hipfire accuracy is great and should be all I need.
hold the door, hold the door, howdah, howdah
I personally value the number of bullets to kill which is why I tend to gravitate toward the Gasser and revolvers in general - plus, they've got neat animations even if one can take a tea break at that time. I don't mind recoil much on pistols because I find the times I do win those duels are when I take my time and make those shots count instead of spamming the trigger. So for me, the Howdah is nearly a straight upgrade to a Gasser aside from the only 4 rounds to fire portion. Oh, and nice comparison between the 1911 and Hammerless in the end there lol
Friendly suggestion, you should hide the chat while you're recording video. "H" key toggles the chat mode. Love this series, thanks for uploading!
Probably for the best 😅
love these episodes
Not to be captain obvious but the Howdah , 12g Automatic, no 3 revolver, selbstader 1906 all work magnificently when you aim from the groin up and let the recoil find its way to the head, I just went 48:17 on domination in Suez using howdah and 12g hunter (guns I hated at launch) they’re weapons that require skill , hence why automático, hellreigel, and federov users hate these weapons and bitch because all they Can do is spam the trigger and rack up insane killstreaks under the guise of being “good” players.
Howdah's have an interesting history, being used primarily as a self-defense gun against large animals... Far bigger targets than humans. The howdah seems to be in the game mostly for the variety and style.
when used in tandem with a shotgun, the Howdah is a beast. Combine it with the model a 10, the pump action takes a long time to act, so if you squeeze off a shot that leaves him a quarter of his health, a quick shot will bring him down easy.
I wish I could do my studies like you do yours!
I use it with the new the ribeyrolles 1918 because it is very powerful at close range while the ribeyrolles shines the most at medium-long distances
i personally like the howday and great video like always!!!
I know im late (very) but the gasser m1870 does around 60 damage rarther than 53