CW: 02:11 - loud beeping About Tommy switching sides: I'm honestly on neither characters' sides. Tommy's loyalty was always gonna be with Tubbo no matter what, and being with Techno was turning him into something he didnt want to be. On the flip side, switching sides made Techno feel betrayed, though I dont think Tommy thinks he did betray him. Then Techno destroys the one thing they had all been fighting for and loved, something he was very straightforward about but Tommy didnt think he'd do because he believed they were friends. They were friends when they had a common goal and interest, but then Tommy realised that's not what he wanted anymore, which is valid. Point is, neither character is necessarily completely right or wrong. Both were hurt, both felt betrayed, both have done bad and good things, both were thinking they were doing right by them. Also, y'all forgetting Techno was willing to give Tommy to Dream if he used his favour.
Man thats a good point but at the same time like techno was there to defend tommy against the entire server while tubbo just exiled him. But then again i think techno is the only character the dream doesnt have complete control over other than the favor so maybe thats why techno didnt mind doing a 2v50.
I would probably feel indebted to the person who saved me from being executed, supplied me with some gear and saved my horse from being murdered. in exchange for a raccoon boy that broke into my house and stole my things
True. I feel like Techno blade from the start treated Tommy as a business partner, not as a friend. But Tommy thinks that they are friends who is working together. So when Tommy decided that he wanted to be with Tubbo. Techno blade feel betrayed by Tommy probably because for how much he did for Tommy. And Tommy probably thought that going back to Tubbo's side is not betraying Techno blade. But Tubbo is on the side of the government, which Techno blade is fighting against. Techno blade also didn't tell Tommy that he is going to destroy the l'manberg. Techno blade told Tommy that they are getting Tommy's disk and that's all Tommy knows. Techno blade hide that fact from Tommy. Like when he delete that he is going to destroy the l'manberg in his to-do list when Tommy wanted to see the dairy. And then added it back when he have dairy back. So when Tommy decided that he is going to be with Tubbo. He thought his goals with Techno blade is over. But Techno blade's plans is not over, and therefore believe that Tommy betrayed him. Also, please correct me if I am wrong. :D
@@emeraldrabbit5587 I think you forgot the part where Tecno gave Tommy the Axe of Peace and said that they were friends plus I think Tecno would backstab Dream if he used the favour to take Tommy(he gave Tommy to Dream per request then followed them secretly then he would rescue Tommy and MAYBE kill Dream in the proces).
@@Grimmijaggers "I HAVE A HOME" is still the funniest arguement bc here we have two **gods** and one of then has the innate knowledge that one of them despises the fact that nobody believes him when he says he has a house lmao
@Dragongamer 7 Dream is so scary not only because he knows when to bluff, but also because he knows when not to. Something he never bluffs on are his threats, which he showed several times over. So now him threatening with words has almost the same effect as him actually doing the did. I would argue that with Techno Dream's leverage isn't the favour per se (although it is definitely a tool in his arsenal), but the fact that both of them consider fighting each other as something like mutually assured destruction. They have no idea who would win (it would probably come down to preparation and outside factors tbh) and neither of them got to where they were by willingly taking on fights they have a good chance of losing. So they each try to stay on the other good side, or at the very least avoid going directly against them.
Y'know what i think is great? Techno Threatening Dream with the Favor, knowing that dream wouldn't dare use it so hastily. Even if it's an advantage dream holds over techno, He can still use it in his own favor, Like getting dream to back off of him and Techno Knows of the string around his neck, but he also knows that the moment that string is even touched, it'll snap like a fragile web.
Absolutely love the way you represented the strings that they had. Tommy having multiple strings attached yo him, on his hands and neck, representing the control Dream had over his life. But once Techno moved between Dream and Tommy they dissapeared, kinda representing that Dream, at that time, had no control over Tommy. That Tommy was no longer his Marionette. And with Techno he only has one string, the favor. But that string is tied to Technos neck, representing the amount of damage Dream could do with that one string. Honestly, I'm just a sucker for Puppeteer type animations but this one does a real good job representing Dreams control. Again, very nice work.
Puppeteer Dream is really cool, always behind everything with something to move everybody and then that being counterbalanced with Techno being an embodiment of Karma, bond to Dream by the favour but not a toy to play with like the others
I used to think that Dream's "Are you sure Techno?" was asking him if he wanted to be on Tommy's side, and now all I see is the question of: are you sure Tommy's on your side, and it just makes it 10 times better! 2:17
I kind of think of this interaction as the moment Dream realized: "Oh! I have to drive a wedge between these two before I can get to Tommy." Because the more I think about it, the more convinced I am that Dream orchestrated the events at the Green Festival to push Tommy into switching sides.
I really love the inclusion of Tommy's almost panic attack and Dream's strings trying to pull him towards Him. If only Tommy didn't stupidly betray Techno, there would have been some nice brotherly bond right there!!!
@Student Desi Dinaeva Nope to the favor. But Techno's loyalty isn't only to Tommy. Dream did save him and Techno wants to lay down the options and bring suspense
If you look at it objectively, it is a stupid choice but when you look at it from Tommy's POV, He fought Tubbo and told him the discs weren't as important as him.In that moment,he realized that he was becoming just like Wilbur. Selfishly pursuing his own goal despite it hurting and traumatising those he loved.Pushing away those that were once dear to him especially Tubbo who was himself also being manipulated by Dream just like him. What choice did he have ? betray his morals and following in Wilbur's footsteps to have what he wanted but lose what he had or fight with Tubbo and L'manburg and not give the same trauma Wilbur gave to him to Tubbo. It was the only choice he could make since after all Tommy cares about Tubbo the most on the server. He could try to get the discs with Tubbo but he couldn't get Tubbo with the discs.
@John Philip Tan While I do agree that Tommy should stop calling him a traitor and should apologize for emotionally betraying Techno. (not of their partnership but of the trust they had) though Techno is selfish. One of his infamous quotes is of him saying hes a person but people seem to forget what comes next. Tommy tells him that yes he is a person but so are they and that he just destroyed L'manburg for his own self gain. He destroyed L'manburg twice because of how he felt about its government. How he was betrayed how he was used but he never truly aknowledges the harm he has caused to other people. He always justifies his mistakes making it seem like other people's fault. He killed Tubbo and always chalks it up to "Peer pressure and you didn't help me" seemingly downplaying his actikn and with blowing up L'manburg "they used me" and "the butcher army". Most of the people who were on L'manburg's side joined last minute so how were they supoose to know he was anti-government (canonically of course) ? and for the second time, the butcher army hunting him down is a consequence to his action of blowing up L'manburg and he says that hes retired and changed but how were they suppose to know if they didn't even tell them ?and how were they even suppose to trust him . He has purposely dragged people who haven't even done anything and destroyed their land.He doesn't aknowledge all the people hes hurt. He doesn't even try to see things from the perspective of others. He destroys a country cuz of its government people but he doesn't even think about its citizens who haven't even done anything to him.He is a victim but he just always keeps using this to excuse his actions so much even when hes done something wrong that he seems to have a victim complex.
Techno to the rescue! This makes me kinda sad tho cuz it reminds me of how Tommy betrayed techno even tho techno was always there for him, defending and protecting him, and Tommy just left him when techno would’ve fought the entire server for him even if it cost him his life. “All I ever was to you was the blade, a weapon.” - Technoblade 2021
I know he betrayed him but Tommy did think of him as a friend canon wise. But come on we all knew he wasn’t going to let L’manburg get blown up without doing anything about it. It would never have worked
@@sadiemorgan4389 Tommy absolutely thought of Techno as a friend, but his loyalty was always attached to L'Manburg and his friends there. He had done fought so much for it, he couldn't just stand by and watch it be destroyed. Whether Tommy betrayed Techno or not and just sat and watched, L'Manburg was always going to be destroyed, one way or another.
“I have a house, you’ll see” WAIT I THOUGHT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SHITTY ONE HE BUILT WHILE TECHNO WAS STALKING HIM HE HAD THE BUNKER WITH THE DISCS HE REALLY DOES PLAN EVERYTHING
Ok something that I found interesting at 1:37 Dream said “you left” but when Dream took Tommy to that island he said he could leave as long as he don’t go back so in the end Tommy didn’t go against Dream when he went to live with Techno. The only rule he broke was the going back to L’manburg one.
So, how I understand it, is that it's a control/manipulation tactic. Not just literally 'you left the location you were in' but rather in the sense of Tommy left the only location he could be found at, which was the second home Dream made for him in exile, where they spent a lot of time together. So it's more of a 'you left *me*' type of line. That, with the addition of 'I was the only one that was your friend' makes me think it's more of a: "You left when I did so much for you, and now you're here, which you're not supposed to be". I could also be reading wayyy too much into it, but I think Dream is trying to make Tommy feel guilty, basically.
I think he was more pointing out that all dream had over him was that one favor, and letting dream know he knew he wouldn’t cash it in on that, but that is funny XD
@@Grimmijaggers Wait, now I'm curious. Why does Dream have his snare on Techno? What hold does he have over Techno if Techno has no real material possessions for Dream to hold onto.
I just love it whenever Techno and Dream are against each other or team up, it feels like none of the other guy in the server can compare to them, those two are just in a totally different level
Oh this interaction was probably my favorite interaction thus far, and you captured it perfectly. Dream's control, shattered by the only man he truly fears on the server, right after the only one he doesn't just threatened him. The interplay between this bunch was so perfect but they did write in Tommy's betrayal. I am still not sure of the narrative decision, but they went with it, and you animators and animatic creators do so well playing with these clips, making them your own with your art. Good job, as always!
Honestly the "puppet scene" is really nice... I actually tough that techno was going to come up with like... idk red scissors or something as a way to show that the strings are being cut off but... honestly it's just great.
Gosh this is amazing! I love how you draw the strings around Tommy's neck and arms, and then around Techno's neck too, it's fantastic. And the heartbeat sound! It really rubs in how terrifying dream is. (Also can I just say that I love how Techno's like 'a business partnership' like he hasnt emotionally adopted this child already)
This animation is beautiful. I love how you really portrayed some of the emotion in this using just the audio. When Techno and Tommy are nervous about Dream they are on a lower level and smaller than Dream. Dream is on stairs above them looking down. Now let me go way into too much depth on this bit of animation because I just love it so much. When Dream offers his hand out (which is usually meant to represent helping and getting someone off of their feet) there are strings attached to that 'kindness' When Techno goes to defend Tommy he's now on eye level. Face to face. Dream isn't looking at Techno when talking to him and instead focusing on Tommy who is very intimidated when making eye contact with Dream. Tommy moving away from Techno (used to shield himself from Dream) when he hears of the deal. Like Dream's 'kindness' the string around Tommy's neck flashes up when Techno's protection can be persuaded. Instead of hiding behind techno he instead looks up at the two adults towering over him between the two. Both of their actions can be changed or have strings attached. The camera is looking down at Tommy because he's a child caught in the middle of adults who showed him kindness (Dream offering the disc) and protection (Technoblade not handing Tommy over) are for their own gain. He can't go with Dream because of the strings attached, but can't hide behind techno at this second because of the possible trade over. When Dream turns his back (no longer having eye contact with Tommy) he gets confident. Then when the adult with some power stands up to Dream and talks back to him Tommy follows his lead. MAYBE I'm going way into this but still
i love the scene at the end where tommy's just like "go f yourself" and then in the next frame just go **adios** with technoblade and then they both leave dream and like the way how techno is like a parent to tommy is so adorable, it's hard to believe that tommy betrayed techno
This is AMAZING! Now that I understand better that Dream has strings on everyone I can see how powerful he is, especially facing Techno, who owns Dream only 1 favor, a trading card so powerful that I cannot even imagine when the lore will use it
2:58 I felt the same way as tommy during that confrontation, felt like a moment from an anime, having two titans have a nonverbal standoff while a much weaker onlooker can not comprehend
@@Grimmijaggers It's just the truth. Out of all the animations I've watched of this, no one has managed to upset your place as reigning kind of animating moments that are purely petrifying.
Just saying this was one of my favourite moments in the entire smp only beaten by “welcome home Theseus”/ “you want to be a hero Tommy? THEN DIE LIKE ONE” and you animated it to perfection. I love how Techno isn’t just a fearless bloodthirsty warrior all the time and you show him being slightly afraid. 0:15 portrays this perfectly. Keep it up and I’m sure you’ll get as big a reputation as Sadist one of these days. And remember. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
Thank you! It's easier for me to draw the characters over and over again if they're not too detailed. Not that I dont love detailed character designs, haha.
Holy crap. When techno stepped in and the green chains went away, wow. That was absolutely incredible, that was so amazing, it was like, the most perfect animation to pair this scene with. I started freaking out that was so incredible. This deserves a million likes
something that i just realised/thought about. when Dream said "tommy umma need you to come with me" what-what was he going to do to tommy? Take him back to the place he was exiled and destroy all his things again? lock him up somewhere far away? put him in the prison? (cant remember if it was built at this time or not) dream wouldn't of killed tommy but...how much would he have tortured him, if techno hadn't stepped in?
I think Dream was going to put him in the prison, or put him in a temporary prison of some sorts until he could be transferred to the current one he's in. Either way, I think he'd manipulate Tommy into believing everything was his fault and he deserves to be alone, except this time because he disappointed Dream and not because he was exiled by Tubbo. Glad that didn't happen, it'd be heartbreaking to see.
Hm, don’t you ever think Tommy is becoming the next Dream? Everyone was so afraid of Tommy being the next Wilbur but, he might just be the next Dream. All the things Dream did (what you just said) is almost what Tommy is doing, took away everything and blew them up, putting Dream in prison with nobody to see him, Tommy doing the same tactic Dream did with the manipulation, etc. Don’t you ever just think that?
@@zensvy that's pretty interesting actually, I haven't watched many of tommy's streams lately so as far as I know he was building the hotel with sam and just acting generally the same as when he first joined the smp. But it wouldn't surprise me if he did start acting like dream, with his characters trauma, i feel it'd be more likely for him to use the tactics used on him, in order to protect himself from being manipulated again. perhaps, unintentionally hurting the people around him, to protect himself.
The beauty of the favor is that, so long as Dream has it, he can't ask ANYTHING of Techno. Until that favor is used, Techno can simply respond 'is this the favor' and decline anything he doesn't want to do already. In owing Dream a favor, Techno is ironically entirely shielded from his machinations. And all it costs is the knowledge that, one day, he'll actually call it in.
It lowkey still upsets me how loyal techno was to tommy and then how tommy went on and BETRAYED HIM at the DROP OF A HAT. (Also you captured the feeling of this scene perfectly)
I feel like dream and techno have a mutual respect and somewhat fear of each other, because they know that the other is the only one that can kill them. By themselves atleast
The way dream talked about handing tommy over. It was like he was just an object, making tommt feel even more powerless. Holy crap they did improv so well lol
Is the design choice between Techno and Dream to be taller than the others supposed to deliberate to sell the point of how.. Absolutely powerful these two are and how imposing they can be when pushed. Cause that's absolutely amazing.
I love this for the fact that me and my friend are doing an SMP, so I'm starting to watch Dream SMP so I can learn and god knows these two will teach many. Thank you, Dream, and you too Technoblade.
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About Tommy switching sides:
I'm honestly on neither characters' sides.
Tommy's loyalty was always gonna be with Tubbo no matter what, and being with Techno was turning him into something he didnt want to be.
On the flip side, switching sides made Techno feel betrayed, though I dont think Tommy thinks he did betray him. Then Techno destroys the one thing they had all been fighting for and loved, something he was very straightforward about but Tommy didnt think he'd do because he believed they were friends.
They were friends when they had a common goal and interest, but then Tommy realised that's not what he wanted anymore, which is valid.
Point is, neither character is necessarily completely right or wrong. Both were hurt, both felt betrayed, both have done bad and good things, both were thinking they were doing right by them.
Also, y'all forgetting Techno was willing to give Tommy to Dream if he used his favour.
Man thats a good point but at the same time like techno was there to defend tommy against the entire server while tubbo just exiled him. But then again i think techno is the only character the dream doesnt have complete control over other than the favor so maybe thats why techno didnt mind doing a 2v50.
I would probably feel indebted to the person who saved me from being executed, supplied me with some gear and saved my horse from being murdered. in exchange for a raccoon boy that broke into my house and stole my things
@@theinfamousphantom4147 oh definitely, yeet the child lmao
True. I feel like Techno blade from the start treated Tommy as a business partner, not as a friend. But Tommy thinks that they are friends who is working together. So when Tommy decided that he wanted to be with Tubbo. Techno blade feel betrayed by Tommy probably because for how much he did for Tommy. And Tommy probably thought that going back to Tubbo's side is not betraying Techno blade. But Tubbo is on the side of the government, which Techno blade is fighting against. Techno blade also didn't tell Tommy that he is going to destroy the l'manberg. Techno blade told Tommy that they are getting Tommy's disk and that's all Tommy knows. Techno blade hide that fact from Tommy. Like when he delete that he is going to destroy the l'manberg in his to-do list when Tommy wanted to see the dairy. And then added it back when he have dairy back. So when Tommy decided that he is going to be with Tubbo. He thought his goals with Techno blade is over. But Techno blade's plans is not over, and therefore believe that Tommy betrayed him.
Also, please correct me if I am wrong. :D
@@emeraldrabbit5587 I think you forgot the part where Tecno gave Tommy the Axe of Peace and said that they were friends plus I think Tecno would backstab Dream if he used the favour to take Tommy(he gave Tommy to Dream per request then followed them secretly then he would rescue Tommy and MAYBE kill Dream in the proces).
i love how dream is so calm and collected and yet Techo managed to find _the_ one word that triggers the f- out of him- _HOMELESS_
Yes, it's very funny
@@Grimmijaggers "I HAVE A HOME" is still the funniest arguement bc here we have two **gods** and one of then has the innate knowledge that one of them despises the fact that nobody believes him when he says he has a house lmao
YOU DONT KNOW MY HOUSE IT GOES TO ANOTHER SCHOOL-
Lol
@@nicestpancake that whole part when Dream was getting roasted the fuck up is gold
Love how the homeless triggers Dream
It's great
Because he is homeless
@@misscornicat Not anymore he is
@@kingsavage6380 at least it has wifi
I love the cardboard house part
And the bonus part
And i Subscribe to Grimmijaggers
And GOOD DAY
I’m not gonna lie techno saying the adults are speaking is actually a powerful line
It really is I love it
It really was. It literally was just a shove in the face to Tommy that "No.. You aint controlling what happens to you. WE are." and thats sad.
It's good but I'm so confused on what Techno means by he bm'd tommy? ;-;
@@fireboaserpent BM'd means Bad Manners, techno straight up said to Tommy "you have no control, butt out" whilst talking to Dream.
@@moondragon5573 thank you I have been looking for an answer for so long-
Turns out when dream asked Techno if he was sure..
He was actually asking Techno if he was sure Tommy was actually with him.
Yyyyup
I'm playing into that in my next animatic
Yeah Tommy’s betrayal hurt
Tommy shouldn’t have betrayed techno
@@kittyplayz1480 read the fixed comment
@@someonesomewhere6346 you too
Dude this scene totally changes with the fact that dream didnt actually have the disc
Hmm not really, because to Tommy, who doesnt know that, the threat is still very real.
@@Grimmijaggers Yeah ofc but I mean from the viewers perspective!
Oh, in that sense, absolutely!
@Dragongamer 7 dwarm XD
@Dragongamer 7 Dream is so scary not only because he knows when to bluff, but also because he knows when not to. Something he never bluffs on are his threats, which he showed several times over. So now him threatening with words has almost the same effect as him actually doing the did.
I would argue that with Techno Dream's leverage isn't the favour per se (although it is definitely a tool in his arsenal), but the fact that both of them consider fighting each other as something like mutually assured destruction. They have no idea who would win (it would probably come down to preparation and outside factors tbh) and neither of them got to where they were by willingly taking on fights they have a good chance of losing. So they each try to stay on the other good side, or at the very least avoid going directly against them.
dream: calm
techno: mentions the whole " you are homeless" thing
dream: I hAvE a HoUsE
"Dont ask questions Tommy, *the adults are speaking* "
" hay"
"I really just BM'd you in the middle of the lore, didn't I?"
"What the fuck!"
“HA HA”
Technoblade is the only one who has ever stood up for Tommy when Dream tries to push him around
I think that Technoblade is the only one who could really stand up against Dream as equals.
@@AllenBreadly not as equals, thechno already proved to be stronger
@@epsilonsix1996 when? I’m a fan of both but more for techno, when did he prove stronger?
@@ethanwayne8314 in the 1v1 that they had with technoblade winning with 6 victories
@@epsilonsix1996 ohhh ok thx.
Y'know what i think is great? Techno Threatening Dream with the Favor, knowing that dream wouldn't dare use it so hastily. Even if it's an advantage dream holds over techno, He can still use it in his own favor, Like getting dream to back off of him and Techno Knows of the string around his neck, but he also knows that the moment that string is even touched, it'll snap like a fragile web.
Literally, Techno's not one to be pushed around, so him and Dream step carefully around each other. It's great, I love it.
Absolutely love the way you represented the strings that they had. Tommy having multiple strings attached yo him, on his hands and neck, representing the control Dream had over his life. But once Techno moved between Dream and Tommy they dissapeared, kinda representing that Dream, at that time, had no control over Tommy. That Tommy was no longer his Marionette. And with Techno he only has one string, the favor. But that string is tied to Technos neck, representing the amount of damage Dream could do with that one string. Honestly, I'm just a sucker for Puppeteer type animations but this one does a real good job representing Dreams control. Again, very nice work.
Thank you so much, I'm so glad you noticed! Puppeteer Dream is one of my fave things, so I had to incorporate it.
Puppeteer Dream is really cool, always behind everything with something to move everybody and then that being counterbalanced with Techno being an embodiment of Karma, bond to Dream by the favour but not a toy to play with like the others
:)
I’m honestly a sucker for those to
Techno: "When you start paying child support you homeless hobo, then we can talk about custody"
Dream: "I HAVE A HOUSE"
Techno: *looks unconvinced*
oh my gosh lol XD
Omg 😂🤣😂🤣 I can't stop laughing this is amazing
I used to think that Dream's "Are you sure Techno?" was asking him if he wanted to be on Tommy's side, and now all I see is the question of: are you sure Tommy's on your side, and it just makes it 10 times better!
2:17
Yeee I always took it as the latter! I played on that in my Green Festival animatic!
me too!
I kind of think of this interaction as the moment Dream realized: "Oh! I have to drive a wedge between these two before I can get to Tommy." Because the more I think about it, the more convinced I am that Dream orchestrated the events at the Green Festival to push Tommy into switching sides.
Alternate title: two gods argue over the custody of their mortal child
Edit: Holy MOLY this got a lot of likes
I mean
You're not wrong
@Eduanny Silva I'd say if's more of:
"You're a fuckin awful parent so there for, this child is mine"
Techno claimed the child and he’s not giving him back
@@tumblingartist yea because the child basically ran away to a bunch of friends who abandoned him and backstabbed the blood god
HAAHAHA 😂 LMFAO
I really love the inclusion of Tommy's almost panic attack and Dream's strings trying to pull him towards Him. If only Tommy didn't stupidly betray Techno, there would have been some nice brotherly bond right there!!!
I'm so glad you like it, I had a lot of fun drawing that scene.
Yeahhhh betraying Techno is just a bad move in general, dont want him as your enemy.
The fool knew what happened with 2 withers...
@Student Desi Dinaeva Nope to the favor. But Techno's loyalty isn't only to Tommy. Dream did save him and Techno wants to lay down the options and bring suspense
If you look at it objectively, it is a stupid choice but when you look at it from Tommy's POV, He fought Tubbo and told him the discs weren't as important as him.In that moment,he realized that he was becoming just like Wilbur. Selfishly pursuing his own goal despite it hurting and traumatising those he loved.Pushing away those that were once dear to him especially Tubbo who was himself also being manipulated by Dream just like him. What choice did he have ? betray his morals and following in Wilbur's footsteps to have what he wanted but lose what he had or fight with Tubbo and L'manburg and not give the same trauma Wilbur gave to him to Tubbo. It was the only choice he could make since after all Tommy cares about Tubbo the most on the server. He could try to get the discs with Tubbo but he couldn't get Tubbo with the discs.
@John Philip Tan While I do agree that Tommy should stop calling him a traitor and should apologize for emotionally betraying Techno. (not of their partnership but of the trust they had) though Techno is selfish. One of his infamous quotes is of him saying hes a person but people seem to forget what comes next. Tommy tells him that yes he is a person but so are they and that he just destroyed L'manburg for his own self gain. He destroyed L'manburg twice because of how he felt about its government. How he was betrayed how he was used but he never truly aknowledges the harm he has caused to other people. He always justifies his mistakes making it seem like other people's fault. He killed Tubbo and always chalks it up to "Peer pressure and you didn't help me" seemingly downplaying his actikn and with blowing up L'manburg "they used me" and "the butcher army". Most of the people who were on L'manburg's side joined last minute so how were they supoose to know he was anti-government (canonically of course) ? and for the second time, the butcher army hunting him down is a consequence to his action of blowing up L'manburg and he says that hes retired and changed but how were they suppose to know if they didn't even tell them ?and how were they even suppose to trust him . He has purposely dragged people who haven't even done anything and destroyed their land.He doesn't aknowledge all the people hes hurt. He doesn't even try to see things from the perspective of others. He destroys a country cuz of its government people but he doesn't even think about its citizens who haven't even done anything to him.He is a victim but he just always keeps using this to excuse his actions so much even when hes done something wrong that he seems to have a victim complex.
Techno to the rescue! This makes me kinda sad tho cuz it reminds me of how Tommy betrayed techno even tho techno was always there for him, defending and protecting him, and Tommy just left him when techno would’ve fought the entire server for him even if it cost him his life. “All I ever was to you was the blade, a weapon.”
- Technoblade 2021
Yeah it's really sad ;;
I know he betrayed him but Tommy did think of him as a friend canon wise. But come on we all knew he wasn’t going to let L’manburg get blown up without doing anything about it.
It would never have worked
@@sadiemorgan4389 Tommy absolutely thought of Techno as a friend, but his loyalty was always attached to L'Manburg and his friends there. He had done fought so much for it, he couldn't just stand by and watch it be destroyed. Whether Tommy betrayed Techno or not and just sat and watched, L'Manburg was always going to be destroyed, one way or another.
@@Grimmijaggers I agree. But even so Tommy wouldn’t have given up without trying even if their attempt failed miserably.
I am still pretending Tommy is deep under cover for techno and there still friends and it’s all okay
When dream cashes that favor it’s just going to be making techno admit he has a house
Thatd be so funny lmao, I can imagine Techno going 'I'll do anything but that'
XD that would be so funny
2:27
Dream tilting head to try to see Tommy and Technoblade moving over so he can’t..🥺👌
Hehe, I'm glad you like it!
I know right? I love this so much 🥺
It is funny to see how most everyone else is play checkers while Techno and Dream play chess.
For reallllll
"He's playing skyblock, *I'M PLAYING DEATHNOTE!"*
- Technoblade
“I have a house, you’ll see”
WAIT I THOUGHT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SHITTY ONE HE BUILT WHILE TECHNO WAS STALKING HIM HE HAD THE BUNKER WITH THE DISCS HE REALLY DOES PLAN EVERYTHING
yyyyyuuppppp he has a plan for everything
I thought he was talking about the prison i mean when referring too his house
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Ok something that I found interesting at 1:37 Dream said “you left” but when Dream took Tommy to that island he said he could leave as long as he don’t go back so in the end Tommy didn’t go against Dream when he went to live with Techno. The only rule he broke was the going back to L’manburg one.
So, how I understand it, is that it's a control/manipulation tactic. Not just literally 'you left the location you were in' but rather in the sense of Tommy left the only location he could be found at, which was the second home Dream made for him in exile, where they spent a lot of time together. So it's more of a 'you left *me*' type of line. That, with the addition of 'I was the only one that was your friend' makes me think it's more of a:
"You left when I did so much for you, and now you're here, which you're not supposed to be".
I could also be reading wayyy too much into it, but I think Dream is trying to make Tommy feel guilty, basically.
@@Grimmijaggers ye that’s what I thought
Love how Tommy is shorter signifying the 'child'
The more I draw him, the shorter he gets lmao the poor child
I do love the height differences
I love how Tommy always pick up a fight with Dream, saying that DREAM is scared of him, but in the end, Dream scares Tom to death.
Tommy is too bold for his own good
@@Grimmijaggers You're goddamn right.
Hide behind big bröther
I gotta say, it's probably the most big brother thing to do to almost sell your little brother. 😂😂😂
I think he was more pointing out that all dream had over him was that one favor, and letting dream know he knew he wouldn’t cash it in on that, but that is funny XD
he really just pulled out "the adults are speaking" card ON THE CHILD.
I love all the character design choices. They’re so clever and I love it sooooo much!!!!
Thank you so much! I feel Tommy gets progressively shorter as the video goes along haha
dream's character developmemt changes over time as the rp continues-
I have no idea where it's going, but I love it
BUT HE REMAINS HOMELESS! AHAHAHAHHA
@@hypocrisyatitsfinest.4394 AHAHAHHAHAHA CHAOS
@@hypocrisyatitsfinest.4394
Pandora's Vault would like a word with you.
@@DoubleBoost23 at least he has wifi
WOW!!! every time that the screen would go dark and the strings would appear i got CHILLS omg
I'm glad you like it! :D
Dream: doesn’t care about the insults they make*
Techno: makes a homeless comment*
Dream: YOU WHAT
XD
personally i love the ones which animate tommy with a robe like technoblade while they work together
Others gave him the design, but I decided not to.
Sadly the betrayal of Tommy.
Yep sadly u.u
🥺?
Techno sounds so badass when he says, "Well, that's gonna be a bit of a problem, Dream."
1:55 techo just going ohhhh in the background, that’s all
It is perfection. 👌
XD
i love the 'child plz' above techno's head when he's telling him not to jump in the lava XD
aww I didn’t notice that!
I love the green threads attached from Dream to Tommy and Techno.
I'm glad you do! I had fun drawing them
@@Grimmijaggers Wait, now I'm curious. Why does Dream have his snare on Techno? What hold does he have over Techno if Techno has no real material possessions for Dream to hold onto.
i like when tommy goes "shields up" she sounds serious but then techo just go's EEERRRRRR
She?
XD
I just love it whenever Techno and Dream are against each other or team up, it feels like none of the other guy in the server can compare to them, those two are just in a totally different level
I love that as soon as Tommy went "hey" they all dropped character-
Dream really said: “If i dont have a home, NO ONE WILL!” But- with uh- actions?- you get the point -w-
everytime I see these animatics I just remember techno's “homeless green teletubby” and making fun of dream as he built his “evil lair” lmao
Tbh it is very funny lmao
I love that dream said "I have something in mind for that later" with his favor from techno......now after I saw what they did to L'Manberg I know why
And the favor wasn't called in.
Oh this interaction was probably my favorite interaction thus far, and you captured it perfectly. Dream's control, shattered by the only man he truly fears on the server, right after the only one he doesn't just threatened him. The interplay between this bunch was so perfect but they did write in Tommy's betrayal. I am still not sure of the narrative decision, but they went with it, and you animators and animatic creators do so well playing with these clips, making them your own with your art. Good job, as always!
Haha thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it
:)
Honestly the "puppet scene" is really nice... I actually tough that techno was going to come up with like... idk red scissors or something as a way to show that the strings are being cut off but... honestly it's just great.
Thank you!
The only reason I didnt do that is because Dream still has control over them of varying degree.
This basically confirms that the only thing that could make Dream lose control of himself is being called homeless-
SJHDGJSJK "THE ADULTS ARE SPEAKING" DAMN TECHNO
The green string around Techno b/c of the “favor” was genius :D
Thank you!
Gosh this is amazing! I love how you draw the strings around Tommy's neck and arms, and then around Techno's neck too, it's fantastic. And the heartbeat sound! It really rubs in how terrifying dream is. (Also can I just say that I love how Techno's like 'a business partnership' like he hasnt emotionally adopted this child already)
Eee thank you so much! I'm glad you like it!!
And literally, techno acting like hes not going to be heartbroken later on
haha yes I love this! it’s so cute, he’s in denial about caring about Tommy
"Dont ask question Tommy, the adults are speaking..." I felt that considering the fact that I am a child
This animation is beautiful. I love how you really portrayed some of the emotion in this using just the audio.
When Techno and Tommy are nervous about Dream they are on a lower level and smaller than Dream.
Dream is on stairs above them looking down.
Now let me go way into too much depth on this bit of animation because I just love it so much.
When Dream offers his hand out (which is usually meant to represent helping and getting someone off of their feet) there are strings attached to that 'kindness'
When Techno goes to defend Tommy he's now on eye level. Face to face.
Dream isn't looking at Techno when talking to him and instead focusing on Tommy who is very intimidated when making eye contact with Dream.
Tommy moving away from Techno (used to shield himself from Dream) when he hears of the deal. Like Dream's 'kindness' the string around Tommy's neck flashes up when Techno's protection can be persuaded.
Instead of hiding behind techno he instead looks up at the two adults towering over him between the two.
Both of their actions can be changed or have strings attached.
The camera is looking down at Tommy because he's a child caught in the middle of adults who showed him kindness (Dream offering the disc) and protection (Technoblade not handing Tommy over) are for their own gain. He can't go with Dream because of the strings attached, but can't hide behind techno at this second because of the possible trade over.
When Dream turns his back (no longer having eye contact with Tommy) he gets confident.
Then when the adult with some power stands up to Dream and talks back to him Tommy follows his lead.
MAYBE I'm going way into this but still
I absolutely love this oml. I'm so happy you noticed all these things!! I love comments like these thank you ahhhhh
*This.*
Alt Title: The Blood God and a lime smiley face argue over a young 16 year old who got exiled by the child president of a drug nation.
accurate
“the child president”, lol
i love the scene at the end where tommy's just like "go f yourself" and then in the next frame just go **adios** with technoblade and then they both leave dream and like the way how techno is like a parent to tommy is so adorable, it's hard to believe that tommy betrayed techno
Techno is this situation is like a dad watching his 2 kids roughhousing but only steps in when they start to get serious
Also I love how serious when Techno and Dream are negotiating and the second after that they just start joking around, oh these two are just so cool
Tommy’s face when techno stepped in :3 it’s gold 🤗
This is AMAZING! Now that I understand better that Dream has strings on everyone I can see how powerful he is, especially facing Techno, who owns Dream only 1 favor, a trading card so powerful that I cannot even imagine when the lore will use it
Thank you!!
“Don’t ask questions Tommy, the adults are speaking” AAAAAA I THAT QUOTE HIT ME SO HARD
2:58 I felt the same way as tommy during that confrontation, felt like a moment from an anime, having two titans have a nonverbal standoff while a much weaker onlooker can not comprehend
I like how Techno and Dream ask 'How's it going?' At the same time.
You literally catch the most terrifying moments of the SMP perfectly.
Thank you so much!
@@Grimmijaggers It's just the truth. Out of all the animations I've watched of this, no one has managed to upset your place as reigning kind of animating moments that are purely petrifying.
Just saying this was one of my favourite moments in the entire smp only beaten by “welcome home Theseus”/ “you want to be a hero Tommy? THEN DIE LIKE ONE” and you animated it to perfection. I love how Techno isn’t just a fearless bloodthirsty warrior all the time and you show him being slightly afraid. 0:15 portrays this perfectly. Keep it up and I’m sure you’ll get as big a reputation as Sadist one of these days.
And remember. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
Thank you so much! I'm glad you liked it!
Bro I never realised how adorable you drew Techno and Tommy in the beginning until now lol
Dream has a house now: it's called Pandora's vault.
And then he f*cking goes and betray techno like wtf dude
Tommy needs to get his priorities straight lmao
Fr, like wtf
:(
I like these character designs most animators over detail the characters
Thank you! It's easier for me to draw the characters over and over again if they're not too detailed.
Not that I dont love detailed character designs, haha.
:)
tommys expressions are so cute in this animatic I LOVE IT
Thank you :D
my favorite and most underrated part "good day, bye bye" with that grin, ah i love it so much
It's old, but glad you like it!
THIS AMAZING
THIS IS VERY COOL
THANK YOU
Hiiiiii😗✌🏽
@@kiaramia6508 hii how are you
Im good
Holy crap. When techno stepped in and the green chains went away, wow. That was absolutely incredible, that was so amazing, it was like, the most perfect animation to pair this scene with. I started freaking out that was so incredible. This deserves a million likes
Thank you so much!
something that i just realised/thought about. when Dream said "tommy umma need you to come with me" what-what was he going to do to tommy? Take him back to the place he was exiled and destroy all his things again? lock him up somewhere far away? put him in the prison? (cant remember if it was built at this time or not) dream wouldn't of killed tommy but...how much would he have tortured him, if techno hadn't stepped in?
I think Dream was going to put him in the prison, or put him in a temporary prison of some sorts until he could be transferred to the current one he's in.
Either way, I think he'd manipulate Tommy into believing everything was his fault and he deserves to be alone, except this time because he disappointed Dream and not because he was exiled by Tubbo. Glad that didn't happen, it'd be heartbreaking to see.
Hm, don’t you ever think Tommy is becoming the next Dream? Everyone was so afraid of Tommy being the next Wilbur but, he might just be the next Dream. All the things Dream did (what you just said) is almost what Tommy is doing, took away everything and blew them up, putting Dream in prison with nobody to see him, Tommy doing the same tactic Dream did with the manipulation, etc. Don’t you ever just think that?
@@zensvy that's pretty interesting actually, I haven't watched many of tommy's streams lately so as far as I know he was building the hotel with sam and just acting generally the same as when he first joined the smp. But it wouldn't surprise me if he did start acting like dream, with his characters trauma, i feel it'd be more likely for him to use the tactics used on him, in order to protect himself from being manipulated again. perhaps, unintentionally hurting the people around him, to protect himself.
1:04 "Once i've got them every problem on this server comes to an end" *everyone's future self laughing at this*
Omg I love how short Tommy is in this lol
The more I draw him the shorter he gets lmao
The beauty of the favor is that, so long as Dream has it, he can't ask ANYTHING of Techno. Until that favor is used, Techno can simply respond 'is this the favor' and decline anything he doesn't want to do already.
In owing Dream a favor, Techno is ironically entirely shielded from his machinations. And all it costs is the knowledge that, one day, he'll actually call it in.
Yea, technoblade isn't a manipulator for sure, but he has definitely read "The art of War" by mozart
I do love seeing techno and dream as equals in power, it makes them both more intimidating
Tommy in that "The adults are speaking" part lookin' like he asking if they got games on their phones
I love how the one thing that can get Dream riled up is Techno implying he is homeless 😂
It lowkey still upsets me how loyal techno was to tommy and then how tommy went on and BETRAYED HIM at the DROP OF A HAT.
(Also you captured the feeling of this scene perfectly)
Thank you!
DHDUJSJXJDKSJSHSHXHUSJSHX
“Don’t ask questions, Tommy. The adults are speaking.”
IM DEAD
Istg the acting these people do gives me the freaking cHILLS every time
The expressions here are amazing!!!!
Honestly one of the things I always think about "what if dream cashed in the favor?"
Thank you so much!
Honestly same, I wonder how things would've happened differently, or not at all!
Can you guys imagine when dream finally calls in that favor it’s just “Take all your canon lives Techno.”
* *chills* *
Yikesssss
I feel like dream and techno have a mutual respect and somewhat fear of each other, because they know that the other is the only one that can kill them. By themselves atleast
I wouldn't say 'fear' per say, but I definitely agree with you!
I love how Techno still worries about Dream following them through the portal after insulting him.
“You know what dream, I think your scared of me.”
*big brother noises*
The way dream talked about handing tommy over. It was like he was just an object, making tommt feel even more powerless. Holy crap they did improv so well lol
it's so uncomfortable and well done TmT
@@Grimmijaggers frrr (btw I love your animatics they are just all ✨chefs kiss✨ amazing)
thank you :D
FUCK I LOVE THE PART WITH THE STRINGS AND THE HEARTBEAT AND THE BLACK SCREEN AND THE SMILE BEHIND AND AAAAAAAAAA
Eee thank you, I'm so glad you like it!!
“I think your scared of me”
AH SH*T
I even felt scared cause I knew what dream can do
U n d e r r a t e d
Also I love ur artstyle! Its good and I really love it! Keep Up The Good Work!!
Thank you so much, that's really sweet!
I just love Technos "Oooos" and "Oops" in the background
3:26 lmao Tommy’s face-
Hits different
It will probably hit more different the longer the smp lore goes on
And Tommy betrayes Techno literally the next day...
L i t e r a l l y
2:57 The sentence "The adults are speaking"
... we gonna talk about how Techno was straight up gonna sacrifice Tommy to free himself from that favour?
MHM
I think Techno meant it as a way to challenge Dream, though to Tommy, thats not what this looked like
techno and dream having that staredown was so cool
Thanks!
I love how you included the bloopersXD
Hihi yes, that part made me giggle
Is the design choice between Techno and Dream to be taller than the others supposed to deliberate to sell the point of how.. Absolutely powerful these two are and how imposing they can be when pushed. Cause that's absolutely amazing.
Yyyup!! In my designs, Techno and Dream are the tallests, while Tubbo and Tommy are the shortests. I'm not really following the canon heights haha
Love how this is a scary moment and then there is 3:20
3:06 - well.. He called Techno for help but none responded, so can't say Dream has anything on Blade
I made this before that stream lmao
*Top 10 Big bro and little bro moments*
I love this for the fact that me and my friend are doing an SMP, so I'm starting to watch Dream SMP so I can learn and god knows these two will teach many. Thank you, Dream, and you too Technoblade.