@@skynetsworld I have them both...a 17 Camaro SS and a 17 Camaro I4 turbo FBO and tuned...the 4 banger is damn good...a back roads Killa....it's a mid engine sports car so I had to have it.
Drove one of these back to back with a trd 86 yesterday. Was completely sold on the 86 beforehand but the Camaro stole my heart. And I've only ever owned BMWs. It's a lot of car for the money. I'm getting mine soon. Good review. Thanks.
I own this car, 6 speed manual, puts a smile on my face everyday! It saves me lots of gas, only thing I’m missing is the famous rumble! But 2 good things with this. 1. I don’t make my neighbors mad, 2. The cops can’t hear me coming down the road to give me a ticket! Other than that, I love my car, and wouldn’t trade it back to anyone! Very happy customer!😎😎😎😜👍
I just have the 2019 2LT but I'm planning to upgrade 2020 2ss we'll see what happens I'm just happy I got a Camaro which I never thought I would ever have a 2019 vehicle. all glory goes to God
I wish there was more conversation on this trim. You can’t get these for under 25K brand new. Second hand this is a ton of car for the money that is extremely capable and DD friendly. It’s a shame people can’t just appreciate this on its own rather tha cry because it’s not the V8.
Great to hear good things about this Camaro. I still think the BRZ/86 are more up my alley, but I'll definitely be giving a Camaro turbo a test drive when the time comes!
I had a '96ss back in the day before family life took over and it was a fun car to drive. Sold it in 2010 and got the mini van. One day I'll try get another Camaro and this would be a great option. Its great on gas, light and nimble, and has all the performance goodies you need for a fun spin around town. When my son is older and doesn't need a car seat, I'll check into this if the Camaro is still around. The 275hp is plenty for my needs, and its close to the power of my '96ss which was a little over 300hp with the LT1 engine. The only thing the new turbo doesn't have is the sound my old car had with the catback exhaust put on by SLP who modified all the SS models for chevy for the '96 models.
@@BrianMakse Yes they do still have the SS, its a matter of budget also. Glad chevy has this alternative, it has that aggressive performance appearance along with some decent power but better mileage and balanced weight distribution.
I talked a lot of trash on the V6 5th gen and now i own one and love it to death and i cannot wait to pick up a Good Used 4 banger turbo camaro. I've had a lot of v8's and I am tired of them i want some fun turbo cars that are enjoyable and can be tuned that get good MPGs and are fun and enjoyable to drive. i want more V6 and 4 cylinders in my life and maybe a classic Big Block V8 one day.
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I own the 2023 v6, it sounds great and i must say there's no difference with the gas consumption between the v6 and the v8 they are the same gas su××kers but very fun to drive
I love the 1LE performance pkg on this turbo. Reduced curb weight and suspension is what is intriguing. My daily and wknd use of a car isnt going to put 500HP to use. But taking my favorite sweepers and decreasing radius off camber on and off ramps are quite enjoyable.
Pretty interesting concept of course Everyone likes the v8 more, but it's the best handling Pony car made today and as of this current generation it's the lightest which is why it has such great Dynamics.
I prefer the LS to both! If those two were the only engines, I’d go with the six for its responsiveness, but you can easily tune the four for much more power than the six, assuming you’re willing to play in the aftermarket.
While I do quite enjoy the GM Alpha chassis balance, I couldn't justify buying a car built around accommodating a V8 engine that only has a 4-cylinder. While the adequate and fuel-efficient 2.0T engine no doubt sits behind the front axle (as it does in my Cadillac ATS), the Camaro visibility issues and positively claustrophobic back seats make this a tough sell for me.
There are no visibility issues. That stopped being a thing with this latest generation. And let me get this straight: you bought a four cylinder ATS even though a V6 and a twin turbo V6 are available?
@@BrianMakse Yeah, it was a very low mileage dealership vehicle at a huge discount. Given the choice, I'd likely have opted for the normally aspirated V6. Yeah, I'm a wuss for sure...my fun car is a MX-5 ND. ; )
actually the alpha platform was designed around the LTG engine, so it feels like they were made for each other. If anything, the LT1 on the alpha platform is the combination that feels wrong. This platform really doesn't like extra weight.
@@BrianMakse stupid comment since the v6 is available in the camero I fail to see your point? Tune alone thr ltg blows the doors off the v6 in both models.
v6 Challenger is the weakest of the Muscle/Pony car options, its slowest and your paying for a look. #stilltooheavy EDIT: I hear the electric throttle is slow to respond, I wonder if that is part of what people are feeling as "turbo lag" on this car or if its actually lagging.
For the price? I’d be looking at lightly used Golf R over this. You get the refinement, performance, and practically of the Chevy with more cargo space and 100x less car show anxiety. What do you think?
Brian, give me the car & spot me around $6k for tune, e85, injectors, boosta pump, down pipe, full exhaust, & I’d also actually strip around 150lbs off its 3350lb curb weight down to around 3200lbs & I’ll hand you back a 350WeelHP Torquey Little 3200lb Monster
Brian Makse Lol But Seriously. Just to be different & I’d like to see 3200lb track/course 1LE packaged camaro. The 3800lb SS1LE is incredible, but we see them way more than we see a 2.0T 1LE.. Brian, Mind you that I’m saying all of this as a guy who drives a 4500lb Challenger Hellcat 6M Lol.
The whole purpose of a Camaro or Mustang is not having a V8, it is actually being “sports” cars. This Camaro with a 4 cylinder engine has more HP that many V8 Camaros and Mustangs from the ‘80s.
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Most people are skeptical of this car, until they drive one.
I'm not skeptical, but i know that i want a V8 in it ... except i got one for free, then i wouldn't care
@@skynetsworld I have them both...a 17 Camaro SS and a 17 Camaro I4 turbo FBO and tuned...the 4 banger is damn good...a back roads Killa....it's a mid engine sports car so I had to have it.
@@sugerhitman1295 Ok, then the turbo as a daily and the SS for fun at the weekend.
@@skynetsworld I switch between them during the week and weekend...both are equally fun.
I did a muffler delete and it made a huge difference.
Drove one of these back to back with a trd 86 yesterday. Was completely sold on the 86 beforehand but the Camaro stole my heart. And I've only ever owned BMWs. It's a lot of car for the money. I'm getting mine soon. Good review. Thanks.
Cool. Enjoy. Also, it's not a good review. It's hands down the best review of this car.
2017 or 18 Ats turbo 2.0 t awd is amazing
I own this car, 6 speed manual, puts a smile on my face everyday! It saves me lots of gas, only thing I’m missing is the famous rumble! But 2 good things with this. 1. I don’t make my neighbors mad, 2. The cops can’t hear me coming down the road to give me a ticket! Other than that, I love my car, and wouldn’t trade it back to anyone! Very happy customer!😎😎😎😜👍
Congrats!
I just have the 2019 2LT but I'm planning to upgrade 2020 2ss we'll see what happens I'm just happy I got a Camaro which I never thought I would ever have a 2019 vehicle. all glory goes to God
Enjoy!
I wish there was more conversation on this trim. You can’t get these for under 25K brand new. Second hand this is a ton of car for the money that is extremely capable and DD friendly. It’s a shame people can’t just appreciate this on its own rather tha cry because it’s not the V8.
That seems to be the same, lazy refrain from the automotive media. Fantastic car. Light on its feet.
Well Randy Pobst bought one and LOVES IT. That says alot
Who?
Brian Makse he’s a pretty famous race car driver
You spelled his name wrong
took a test drive , i was sold .... Awesome , i bought it. Black with black rims.
Congrats!
@@BrianMakse thanks again
Great to hear good things about this Camaro. I still think the BRZ/86 are more up my alley, but I'll definitely be giving a Camaro turbo a test drive when the time comes!
I had a '96ss back in the day before family life took over and it was a fun car to drive. Sold it in 2010 and got the mini van. One day I'll try get another Camaro and this would be a great option. Its great on gas, light and nimble, and has all the performance goodies you need for a fun spin around town. When my son is older and doesn't need a car seat, I'll check into this if the Camaro is still around. The 275hp is plenty for my needs, and its close to the power of my '96ss which was a little over 300hp with the LT1 engine. The only thing the new turbo doesn't have is the sound my old car had with the catback exhaust put on by SLP who modified all the SS models for chevy for the '96 models.
This has decent performance, but they still sell the SS.
@@BrianMakse Yes they do still have the SS, its a matter of budget also. Glad chevy has this alternative, it has that aggressive performance appearance along with some decent power but better mileage and balanced weight distribution.
I talked a lot of trash on the V6 5th gen and now i own one and love it to death and i cannot wait to pick up a Good Used 4 banger turbo camaro. I've had a lot of v8's and I am tired of them i want some fun turbo cars that are enjoyable and can be tuned that get good MPGs and are fun and enjoyable to drive. i want more V6 and 4 cylinders in my life and maybe a classic Big Block V8 one day.
It may not have the V8 rumble, but it still looks like it can provide plenty of fun. Thank you for the great video.
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It has a rumble, it’s not the v8 rumble though
I own the 2023 v6, it sounds great and i must say there's no difference with the gas consumption between the v6 and the v8 they are the same gas su××kers but very fun to drive
Randy Pobst jus bought one so the debate is over! Its a King's throne.
No.
Top Tube ...If that is true there is no argument. Buy one sight unseen.
Are you serious?
I love the 1LE performance pkg on this turbo. Reduced curb weight and suspension is what is intriguing. My daily and wknd use of a car isnt going to put 500HP to use. But taking my favorite sweepers and decreasing radius off camber on and off ramps are quite enjoyable.
Where have you found decreasing radius corners on public roads? Engineers avoid those.
Got a 22 ss 1le now want to also get a 4 cylinder 1le
The SS is the way to go.
Pretty interesting concept of course Everyone likes the v8 more, but it's the best handling Pony car made today and as of this current generation it's the lightest which is why it has such great Dynamics.
It's so good, but it takes someone with some courage to proudly own one of these.
Plaid on a hipster? Love it!
We are here to please.
love this review
How does it compare to the v6
Overall a great option to consider, front brake rotors still look too small for that wheel size
They work better than fine. Ever looked at the brakes of 80s cars?
@@BrianMakse I know! Just getting spoiled I guess!
Order the 6 piston option.
Excellent review, sir.
Thanks. This is an old one.
@@BrianMakse do you prefer the 4 to the 6?
I prefer the LS to both! If those two were the only engines, I’d go with the six for its responsiveness, but you can easily tune the four for much more power than the six, assuming you’re willing to play in the aftermarket.
I wonder how well the non-1LE 2.0 Camaro can perform on the track.
Holy shit, I can't believe that's 3300 lbs light like my 2017 Corvette C7 with a manual.
I beat a rt charger in mines, it’s 2019 rs. The charger is to heavy. I got the same color to with silver factory alloys
While I do quite enjoy the GM Alpha chassis balance, I couldn't justify buying a car built around accommodating a V8 engine that only has a 4-cylinder. While the adequate and fuel-efficient 2.0T engine no doubt sits behind the front axle (as it does in my Cadillac ATS), the Camaro visibility issues and positively claustrophobic back seats make this a tough sell for me.
There are no visibility issues. That stopped being a thing with this latest generation. And let me get this straight: you bought a four cylinder ATS even though a V6 and a twin turbo V6 are available?
@@BrianMakse Yeah, it was a very low mileage dealership vehicle at a huge discount. Given the choice, I'd likely have opted for the normally aspirated V6. Yeah, I'm a wuss for sure...my fun car is a MX-5 ND. ; )
actually the alpha platform was designed around the LTG engine, so it feels like they were made for each other. If anything, the LT1 on the alpha platform is the combination that feels wrong. This platform really doesn't like extra weight.
@@BrianMakse stupid comment since the v6 is available in the camero I fail to see your point? Tune alone thr ltg blows the doors off the v6 in both models.
@@illnevertell7863 You're two years too late to this conversation and I can't comprehend what you're actually trying to say.
v6 Challenger is the weakest of the Muscle/Pony car options, its slowest and your paying for a look. #stilltooheavy EDIT: I hear the electric throttle is slow to respond, I wonder if that is part of what people are feeling as "turbo lag" on this car or if its actually lagging.
Nah, just lazy reviewers. I don’t remember any issues and if that was a problem, I would have noted it.
The defining moment: 7:25
Thanks for watching that far along.
So hard for people to accept the exhaust note....shame really...
I bought a mustang ecoboost over the camaro bye bye disco
For the price? I’d be looking at lightly used Golf R over this. You get the refinement, performance, and practically of the Chevy with more cargo space and 100x less car show anxiety. What do you think?
If you’re looking at used, a pre-owned Aston Martin Vantage might be the better choice.
Golf R... good god
The V6 is better. In fact, I might go so far as to say the V6 is the best of the Camaro range.
ZL1 1LE kinda tops the V6.
Brian, give me the car & spot me around $6k for tune, e85, injectors, boosta pump, down pipe, full exhaust, & I’d also actually strip around 150lbs off its 3350lb curb weight down to around 3200lbs & I’ll hand you back a 350WeelHP Torquey Little 3200lb Monster
Instead of expending all of that effort, why not an SS 1LE instead?
Brian Makse because I’m too cool for school 🤷🏽♂️
😂😂
Brian Makse Lol But Seriously. Just to be different & I’d like to see 3200lb track/course 1LE packaged camaro. The 3800lb SS1LE is incredible, but we see them way more than we see a 2.0T 1LE..
Brian, Mind you that I’m saying all of this as a guy who drives a 4500lb Challenger Hellcat 6M Lol.
Its unfortunate Chevy doesn't offer this anymore in 2023
The Camaro is done. RIP.
Who is this "we' he keeps speaking of? It's just this guy
This is exactly like when you show up as an outsider to a party of close friends and then not having a clue about what’s going on in the conversation.
I don't get it. The whole purpose of a Camaro, Mustang etc. is a V8. Anyway, YOU get a thumbs up, NOT THE CAR!
LOL you're triggered
I agree. No way would I get a muscle car with no muscle.
skynetsworld, “but it takes an owner with some courage to own one of these”, Brian
I don't completely disagree, but if you've heard the V6 with a nice exhaust on there... It sounds fuckin sexy.
The whole purpose of a Camaro or Mustang is not having a V8, it is actually being “sports” cars. This Camaro with a 4 cylinder engine has more HP that many V8 Camaros and Mustangs from the ‘80s.