Unrelated but im thankful you dont take the bait when people ask your opinion on cards. Some ppl of the snap online community get so nasty when you get a card wrong. I thought sage would be bad (got her with tokens when i saw she was good) and some random in the yt comment was mad i thought sage 3/0 would be be bad. I cant imagine the hate content creators get. Thank you for the FREE yt and Twitch content.
It's tough man. I totally get that urge to grab cards on Day 1 (gets me plenty of times as well), but it is genuinely a good strategy to wait until a day or two after a card releases to see how it actually plays out. I say that fully acknowledging how tough that can be.
That seems like your fault. Get cards YOU want to play. Content creators are normal players, not to mention most players were high on him. Also, you chose to listen to CCs about WM, but not about either Nocturne or Sage??? Use their initial thoughts + YOUR own judgment to evaluate cards.
@TopTierHarley yes this! Play what you like guys. I remember everyone was heavy on Jeff. I agree but i got him very late and still had a great time. Plus nerfs and buffs happen too randomly to trust anyone
people getting war machine and regretting it is not war machines fault. The card didnt' lie to you and steal your bank account info or slap your mother.
I have to say your videos are severely under appreciated imo. The reason being they are the only source of variety in deck building with the new cards. They really try to wander off from the same builds every one is suggesting. I am not much of a deck builder so I really appreciate the work you put in these videos, they are really helpful and feel like a breath of fresh air! Thank you!
this kind of stuff is great for when I'm at work and can't watch a bunch of gameplay. you have great takes and it's really helpful to hear about your experiences!
Vouching for the Little Thena deck, it has 3 ways to straight up beat Prof X. Thena in a lane by herself deters Prof from being played there, USAgent can be played on turn 4 if you know where they are going to Prof you, and Elsa boosting Jeff can win you the Prof lane as well. Super good deck.
@@KinngMe I needed Grandmaster and got both with two caches. Feels good. I've had really good luck overall since Spotlights started except for the Red Hulk week when I had to spend 4 lol.
It's very interesting to me, that most (almost all) cards that have +3 in their text end up so powerful that warrant a nerf somewhere along the line. I wonder if that's what's going to happen to her as well
I was not going to get Thena but the day of her release i said why not try getting her i had 5 keys saved up. Got her on my first key and man does she feel fun and strong. Im happy i decided to get her
Really enjoyed this format. I picked Kitty up and pinned Ravonna in preperation for Thena (admittedly because I wanted to pull for Gladiator when he was in the spotlight) and I'm loving the synergy. I might have to take a closer look at Darkhawk now.
Your video convinced me to get Thena and I'm stacking dubs with the Negative deck. Ravonna into T3 Bishop Thena into T4 ProfX on either of them is an easy lane win most of the time, not to mention how many times her and Ironman together come in clutch. As a bonus, it's fun when you forget she hasn't powered up yet and get excited when her very satisfying animation plays, winning you the game. 😅
This format is great. I agree with your assessment of Thena. This is a card that slots nicely in most decks and easy to achieve ability. Once or twice a game triggers are still great anything over that is gravy
Don´t know if you watch the comments but what about the move deck with, kraven, silk, hope summers, nocture, spiderman, vision, redhulk etc. Should also be pretty good with Thena right?
It is hard to say now which format I like better. I have been watching your vids for the gameplay but I was very interested in your rundown on high performing Thena decks because I spent 4 keys to get her and I found your insight to be relevant. In general I think your gameplay segments are better because I'm not as interested in learning about decks like this but I do think when someone is looking for pointers it is valuable information.
More and more Ravonna is proving to be a must have. Was saving tokens to get some powerful series 5 in the future but now I'm more inclined to get her as a flexible card that fits in multiple decks.
I much prefer the decklist focus, but consider the bias that I'm usually watching your streams so I get to see a lot of gameplay. The decklists not only give me stuff to try, but the way you explain them gives me a stronger understanding when I want to experiment.
Yeah she is really good, looking ahead I think she is likely the best card this month. I got to infinite with the prof X/Cball deck that safetyblade cooked up. But I'm excited to play her in some other decks, thanks for the ideas presented here :)
Excellent video, and excelent card too, so cool when a cheap card comes out, you actually play it more and tend to be more strategyc that all those 6 plcost cards, not hating on those either just my preference I can't wait to watch you play these decks and to play them myself Thanks Jeff
Looks like I'll pull the trigger on Thena! I also don't own MODOK and Grand Master, not the most amazing cards, but I'll get new toys if I have to use several spotlight keys to get her anyway.
So, depends on what you're wanting to play and what your plan is. If you enjoy the Silky Smoove style decks with movement cards? Elsa makes a ton of sense. If you like Lockdown? Cannonball for sure. Ongoing? US Agent. So, I would decide based on what you like to play. As an unsolicited opinion? I personally think Sage is the generically best card of that bunch in that she can fit into more decks.
So far 0/2 opening for her which is really sad cuz this is the only card I was actually super excited for this month but I used 4 keys for sage and 4 for namora week because I had none of those cards but I'm close to my 3rd spotlight and I'm gonna get that hobgoblin gold bundle later today so that should get me very close to the 4th cache for this week Update: now 0/3 of course my last 3 cards I go for all cost me all 4 keys haha hopefully the bundle releasing at 3 is as it was in the datamines
thena will be my next token purchase. I just can't justify the bad feels if I have to spend 4 keys and suffer more modok variants. looking forward to playing her in negative though!
Ugh, I've got an agonizing choice ahead of me. Don't have quite enough keys to justify going for Thena, but I do have just enough tokens... and also Mockingbird in the shop.
I thought this spotlight week was gonna have Gladiator, I ended up tossing in two keys without paying attention and I ended up pulling Modok twice in a row 😂
I think Ravonna will get nerfed to be on reveal like Zabu, it does not make sense that one exists in an ongoing form while the other doesn’t. Either that or both get pushed to 3 energy. Ravonna is in 95% of all the decks I see nowadays. And it it just because she is the only low cost energy cheat at the moment. Hope is not really discounting
Between sage and now thena, I'm really starting to think a ravonna nerf is a matter of when not if. She's felt on the cusp of too good for a while now, and these new powerful options might be the tipping point...
Thena is broken. I'm running her with my pro-x alioth deck and it's nasty. I run alioth cuz thena, angela and everyone usually means i have priority so i just blow up their lane at the end
She effects far fewer cards and for many the fix is way easier of just adding a power. She only effects 29 cards and not all of those actually work well with her (Bucky for instance). As opposed to the 43 four cost cards. But I’d say you want to fix Prof x or Thena just make them 2 power.
Well, you see the people who actually watch the video before just complaining in the comments section get to hear how most of those cards can be easily replaced with other options.
Sage can be replaced in most decks, if you listen to the video he has suggestions. Of course Sage and Thena will go in a lot of the same decks thanks to the Ravona synergy.
I like that this format gives a big variety of Decks to choose from.
Really gets you thinking about the potential of the card as a whole.
Unrelated but im thankful you dont take the bait when people ask your opinion on cards. Some ppl of the snap online community get so nasty when you get a card wrong. I thought sage would be bad (got her with tokens when i saw she was good) and some random in the yt comment was mad i thought sage 3/0 would be be bad. I cant imagine the hate content creators get. Thank you for the FREE yt and Twitch content.
I HATE how i didn't get Nocturne and Sage, they show up in EVERY deck lately. Meanwhile i listened to influencers praising War Machine endlessly
Seems like your own fault. Every influencer says that their predictions might not be right and you should wait a before you buy something
It's tough man. I totally get that urge to grab cards on Day 1 (gets me plenty of times as well), but it is genuinely a good strategy to wait until a day or two after a card releases to see how it actually plays out. I say that fully acknowledging how tough that can be.
That seems like your fault. Get cards YOU want to play. Content creators are normal players, not to mention most players were high on him.
Also, you chose to listen to CCs about WM, but not about either Nocturne or Sage???
Use their initial thoughts + YOUR own judgment to evaluate cards.
@TopTierHarley yes this! Play what you like guys. I remember everyone was heavy on Jeff. I agree but i got him very late and still had a great time. Plus nerfs and buffs happen too randomly to trust anyone
people getting war machine and regretting it is not war machines fault. The card didnt' lie to you and steal your bank account info or slap your mother.
I have to say your videos are severely under appreciated imo. The reason being they are the only source of variety in deck building with the new cards. They really try to wander off from the same builds every one is suggesting. I am not much of a deck builder so I really appreciate the work you put in these videos, they are really helpful and feel like a breath of fresh air! Thank you!
Love this kind of video plus you adding those replacement, rly nice one 10/10
Love the new format. Thena has been great for me so far. Really love the card.
I wasn't planning to get her but watching you play with the card changed my mind.
this kind of stuff is great for when I'm at work and can't watch a bunch of gameplay. you have great takes and it's really helpful to hear about your experiences!
I love the deck list content > gameplay. You just have great insight that I enjoy listening to on the commute 🙌🏻
Love this, thanks for the work Jeff and editor!
Vouching for the Little Thena deck, it has 3 ways to straight up beat Prof X. Thena in a lane by herself deters Prof from being played there, USAgent can be played on turn 4 if you know where they are going to Prof you, and Elsa boosting Jeff can win you the Prof lane as well. Super good deck.
Woah that Darkhawk list looks good... going to grab Thena today. The negative list... amazing!! Thanks for the vid!
@@KinngMe I needed Grandmaster and got both with two caches. Feels good. I've had really good luck overall since Spotlights started except for the Red Hulk week when I had to spend 4 lol.
I like the new format, keep it up
It's very interesting to me, that most (almost all) cards that have +3 in their text end up so powerful that warrant a nerf somewhere along the line. I wonder if that's what's going to happen to her as well
Hopefully not
she's definitely getting nerfed next ota
I could see her getting bumped down to a 2/0 for sure
@@nickthejackI’ll bet they do her dirtier than -1 power!
The most they could do is change her power. The +3 will have to stay or she'd be no different than Angela.
I was not going to get Thena but the day of her release i said why not try getting her i had 5 keys saved up. Got her on my first key and man does she feel fun and strong. Im happy i decided to get her
Really enjoyed this format. I picked Kitty up and pinned Ravonna in preperation for Thena (admittedly because I wanted to pull for Gladiator when he was in the spotlight) and I'm loving the synergy. I might have to take a closer look at Darkhawk now.
I really love this new format Jeff, you always add valuable insight to your decklists and it complements your gameplay video very well :)
Thank you so much for these forward videos. I will do my part to feed you engagement for the algorithm. Keep it up.
Your video convinced me to get Thena and I'm stacking dubs with the Negative deck. Ravonna into T3 Bishop Thena into T4 ProfX on either of them is an easy lane win most of the time, not to mention how many times her and Ironman together come in clutch. As a bonus, it's fun when you forget she hasn't powered up yet and get excited when her very satisfying animation plays, winning you the game. 😅
This format is great. I agree with your assessment of Thena. This is a card that slots nicely in most decks and easy to achieve ability. Once or twice a game triggers are still great anything over that is gravy
Nice work Jeff and Jeff's editor
Don´t know if you watch the comments but what about the move deck with, kraven, silk, hope summers, nocture, spiderman, vision, redhulk etc. Should also be pretty good with Thena right?
Would you recommend this card for newer players? There are so many cards out there that newer players sometimes can be a challenge what to get.
Thena is much worse if you don't have Kitty Pryde. She is probably a fine early pick up if you're willing to invest tokens in Kitty.
love listening to your deck reviews!!
It is hard to say now which format I like better. I have been watching your vids for the gameplay but I was very interested in your rundown on high performing Thena decks because I spent 4 keys to get her and I found your insight to be relevant.
In general I think your gameplay segments are better because I'm not as interested in learning about decks like this but I do think when someone is looking for pointers it is valuable information.
Great decks - originally worried that Thena would be at the expense of Angela, but they work so well together!
I can't wait to try that Thena Hawk deck. Darkhawk has been my favorite 5 cost card and the playstyle it adds really feels like it welcomes Thena in
He was my favorite 4 cost... ;) hehe
More and more Ravonna is proving to be a must have. Was saving tokens to get some powerful series 5 in the future but now I'm more inclined to get her as a flexible card that fits in multiple decks.
I much prefer the decklist focus, but consider the bias that I'm usually watching your streams so I get to see a lot of gameplay.
The decklists not only give me stuff to try, but the way you explain them gives me a stronger understanding when I want to experiment.
Yeah she is really good, looking ahead I think she is likely the best card this month. I got to infinite with the prof X/Cball deck that safetyblade cooked up. But I'm excited to play her in some other decks, thanks for the ideas presented here :)
Excellent video, and excelent card too, so cool when a cheap card comes out, you actually play it more and tend to be more strategyc that all those 6 plcost cards, not hating on those either just my preference
I can't wait to watch you play these decks and to play them myself
Thanks Jeff
What replacement for Sage?
Looks like I'll pull the trigger on Thena! I also don't own MODOK and Grand Master, not the most amazing cards, but I'll get new toys if I have to use several spotlight keys to get her anyway.
Do I spend 6k tokens on Thena, Sage, or Blink?
Really great deck ideas and thanks for the vid Jeff. Always appreciate your thoughts
4:05 is elsa replaceable in this deck? if so, which card?
Can’t decide if I should spend tokens on Elsa, USAgent, sage or cannonball. Leaning Elsa.
So, depends on what you're wanting to play and what your plan is. If you enjoy the Silky Smoove style decks with movement cards? Elsa makes a ton of sense. If you like Lockdown? Cannonball for sure. Ongoing? US Agent. So, I would decide based on what you like to play.
As an unsolicited opinion? I personally think Sage is the generically best card of that bunch in that she can fit into more decks.
@@buddy318 I like to try everything lol
Thena was definitely my "I may go for her" card this month and she immediately became my "Okay, I'll gamble and maybe I can still get Phastos" card.
I like how you reviewed the new cards this week
So far 0/2 opening for her which is really sad cuz this is the only card I was actually super excited for this month but I used 4 keys for sage and 4 for namora week because I had none of those cards but I'm close to my 3rd spotlight and I'm gonna get that hobgoblin gold bundle later today so that should get me very close to the 4th cache for this week
Update: now 0/3 of course my last 3 cards I go for all cost me all 4 keys haha hopefully the bundle releasing at 3 is as it was in the datamines
The first time since spotlight caches released I ran out of keys. lol they keep releasing good cards I can’t keep up
What gilgames replacment?
Great review. Very cool it fits in a variety of decks, kinda sad that it's good into Prof X.
Another great video! I hope that the metrix allow you to make more videos like this in the future.
Oh boy, if Lockdown is the best shell for Thena, I wonder if that'll finally be what pushes them to take some action on it. Thanks for the review!
Here is hoping.
I'm thinking Canonball is gonna get a power nerf. That's what I would do at least as a start.
Seeing Sage and Nocturne in a lot of these decks. If you could only afford one, which would you pick?
Sage I think.
Is it crazy to put Bast in the Negative deck? She only hurts when you have Gilgamesh in hand and he’s not essential every game
Love it. Thanks Jeff
Was waiting for this
I’m enjoying playing Thena. Got lucky with 1st key.
Great vid jeff very helpful
New format is great, kept me engaged whole way through, normally i just click off once the gameplay starts.
Wonderful format
Excellent selection 😁
I loved this video format on review
thena will be my next token purchase. I just can't justify the bad feels if I have to spend 4 keys and suffer more modok variants. looking forward to playing her in negative though!
I love Thena so much. I can't help but feel like she's going to get nerfed though. So many games where she and Angela both hit double digit stats.
I think its easy to see them making her scale +2... which I think will severely cripple her potential.
@@courtlandFDouglas I'm hoping they just make her 2/0 instead ;_; she's so good.
I think the strongest thing about Thena is the level of control the player has over her scaling, its so easy to keep her safe from Shang Chi
Ugh, I've got an agonizing choice ahead of me. Don't have quite enough keys to justify going for Thena, but I do have just enough tokens... and also Mockingbird in the shop.
I liked the new format, but maybe you could join both worlds? 2 Gameplays with your preferred (s) list(s) would be nice!
This format is ideal for me, because I never watch the gameplay anyway
I thought this spotlight week was gonna have Gladiator, I ended up tossing in two keys without paying attention and I ended up pulling Modok twice in a row 😂
that's BRUTAL. I hate how Modok has been in so many spotlights after being a season pass card. Have way too many variants of him.
red guardian likes thena decks
That reason I do not afford to get her
Man I am soooo lucky. Spent one key each week and pulled nocturne, namora, thena, sage. Idk how
I think Ravonna will get nerfed to be on reveal like Zabu, it does not make sense that one exists in an ongoing form while the other doesn’t. Either that or both get pushed to 3 energy. Ravonna is in 95% of all the decks I see nowadays. And it it just because she is the only low cost energy cheat at the moment. Hope is not really discounting
Bare minimum she needs to go back to 2/1.
Between sage and now thena, I'm really starting to think a ravonna nerf is a matter of when not if. She's felt on the cusp of too good for a while now, and these new powerful options might be the tipping point...
At a minimum I wouldn't be surprised to see her lose some power
Damn. I skipped Sage and ALL the decks feature her :(
She is a staple with Ravonnna right now. Replaceable in some decks though as I called out in the video.
I like Marvel Snap!😊
Thena is broken. I'm running her with my pro-x alioth deck and it's nasty. I run alioth cuz thena, angela and everyone usually means i have priority so i just blow up their lane at the end
Will she be nerfed?
Her getting the Angela treatment of being 0 initial power is possible
It's not if but when. Either lower base power or getting only+2 rather than +3.
All cards are subject to changes.
Sure but that take long time for second dinner make money
Ravonna is the new zabu. Wonder if will take months to realize how imbalanced she is just like Zabu
She effects far fewer cards and for many the fix is way easier of just adding a power. She only effects 29 cards and not all of those actually work well with her (Bucky for instance). As opposed to the 43 four cost cards. But I’d say you want to fix Prof x or Thena just make them 2 power.
god i wish i got nocturne
A Mr. Negative deck?? Say less. I’ll always volunteer all my cubes for a Negative deck
Every card these days is good enough, if you skip you pip.
Nocturne is not worth it. Play gladiator
I prefer gameplay content.
Keep in mind you can still find gameplay 7 days a week on my secondary channel at ruclips.net/user/jeffhoogland
@@HooglandiaSnap I know, I just like the format shorter analysis + gameplay videos better. Thanks for replying, though. :)
You dont post gameplay anymore 😪
He has a separate channel with like just gameplay unedited
He literally has a second channel thats nothing but gameplay vods EVERYDAY
How are people going to build these decks? Just call these videos series 4 and 5 decks...
Well, you see the people who actually watch the video before just complaining in the comments section get to hear how most of those cards can be easily replaced with other options.
Call it SAGE-Decks, not Thena…
Sage can be replaced in most decks, if you listen to the video he has suggestions. Of course Sage and Thena will go in a lot of the same decks thanks to the Ravona synergy.