Ochako vs Toga | DUB | My Hero Academia
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- Опубликовано: 13 янв 2023
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Please fix the problems with the subtitles! The ones for Reincarnated as a Slime are off by several seconds (12 seconds fast) and the ones for both seasons of Dr. Stone turn off and switch to closed captioning as soon as I switch to the PiP (Picture in Picture) player!
Luci Christian and Leah Clark are really selling this. Then again the My Hero Academia dub is one of the most consistently great dubs that I've listened to.
I was wondering why Ochako sounded like Nami😅
@@Victoriaanne706 Oh wow! Didn’t know Ochako and Nami share the same voice. Now I hear it!
I actually know Luci! She’s really nice, even though I’m significantly younger.
I was also shocked, and just in case you know this anime she also voices Sonya from Kill me baby
Luci christian is my fav VA of all time. She voices all my fav characters in the animes shes in and they were my favorite before I even knew she voiced them. Got a 2020 exclusive signed uraraka funko pop signed by her. Shes so kind in person
You know something I realized about toga?
The most likely reason why she thinks that love should be when two people are exactly the same (aka the same person) is probably because of self esteem issues. I mean when she was little she was contently told that she is "creepy" or "ugly" and that she should change she also had feelings for a girl (later on a boy who she would eventually kill) and she thought she was so cute that she started biting herself in her sleep thinking about her. So the reason she thinks she should be like the person she loves is because she believes that she is creepy and ugly and that being like the people she loves make her not creepy but instead make her cute!
That is actually a pretty good idea as to why she thinks that way. I'm impressed.
The boy from her backstory? He lived, actually
@@Gioppdumister
Pretty sure he died of blood loss.
Am I the only who noticed that she had tears in her eyes?
@@adriannapaul-allen6268 Yeah, Toga's story is definitely a tragedy.
Himiko: "Why won't anyone save me?"
Ochaco: "Save you from what?"
Ochaco- Because you like to hurt those that try to help you... Seriously WHO haven't you tried to Stab?!?!
@Justin Martinez Izuku obviously.
@@hoohoo431 "Ugh...can you ladies shut up?"
Ochaco: cause you are a selfish human being who kills people for extremely selfish reasons, who’s helping a dude kill tons and tons of people including kids just for fun. Quite frankly you don’t deserve to be saved, if we were the monsters as you claimed then we would’ve killed you already, but did we?
We gave you every single chance to change your life, we have treatment centers, we have ways to help those who used to be villains be better people, but you refuse to even try. You are a coward, you chose an easier path and look where it’s gotten you. You are alone your friend is dead and it’s all because your petty goal.
"Save you from what?"
That is honestly the biggest question I have for Toga. What the hell does she want from people other than for them to die?
The most dub actors in this show really put in effort which I appreciate
Of course. A majority of them used to be in One Piece before they worked on MHA. Ochaco included. She voiced Nami.
Both actresses did a great job in this.
I know that Toga wants an excuse to have all the power but all the responsibility be on someone else, but I remember distinctly thinking "That was the wrong answer, Ochako."
To Ochako, this was a typical superhero-supervillain verbal exchange. But for Toga, if she had just heard the right thing, I think things would've been different.
Thing is, Toga herself has no leg to stand on when her and Twice have committed many many crimes, including murder
When a hero has to kill, its a necessity, done selfless or greatly debated. When someone like Toga kills, its both selfish and on a whim.
@Ace Clover Yeah, but for this instance, it just doesn't work anymore. No matter how you look at this, morality or not, villain v hero or not, it's still heroes committing mass genocide.... all this has proved is that Stain was RIGHT. There are no heroes left in the MHA world... it's Injustice all over again...
@@antonitocotter447 What mass genocide?
The villains literally got an army together to cause chaos
No heroes? Didnt know people like Mt.Lady were not heroes anymore
@@aceclover758 Did you not see the latest season... or am I getting things mixed up....?
@@antonitocotter447 Im up to date in the manga and the heroes gathered together to combat a literal organization of criminals that want to commit terrorist acts
Villains: Why are heroes always after me?
Also villains: Attack and kill innocent people
Thing is you don’t have to worry about a hero robbing you or killing your parents. Ask Twice who killed his parents and left him an orphan?
Ill give you a hint: it wasnt a hero
I feel bad for toga. She’s affected by her quirk, and she has always been seen as a freak or an outcast.
Someone give Toga a hug and therapy. I hear this Dr. Harleen Quinzel is great...
She does need therapy with the way she's acting like SERIOUS therapy and fast before it's to late.
@@UltraInstinctShadow124 It's already too late
It's a nice touch that this is basically foreshadowing the whole "Heroes that are assassins" system that Nagant tells Deku about
She was Crying because she was looking for an answer from the heroes as to why Her friend Twice died and she got her answer
I like Ochako, I know she was stressed... I felt like she could've handled this better. I'm not justifying Toga's actions. But I do think she had a point in this conversation that could've been handled differently. Maybe it's because I like the idea of reform for those like Gentle Criminal, Stain, and Vigilantes... But things did seem black and white here... It comes off as something Deku may have handled better seeing how he did have experience with Gentle and Stain as well as heroes who weren't always so heroic...
I’m a fan of the kind of writing that brings attention to accountability. A romanticized perspective on a villain’s past in any story as a medium for potential redemption always seems to be the go to in character development in mainstream entertainment, but simply explaining “you may have your reasons, but you will still be held accountable for your actions” will always resonate with me. Reform shouldn’t only be about accepting someone for who they are and telling them it’s ok, it’s about opening their eyes to their own destructive methods and returning it to them in equal potency as a consequence. It’s real and in my opinion a more intimate way of having someone think outside of themselves and understand how they affect others that share the same world as them. I’m on team Ochako fully for this scene.
I love how Ochako gets all serious it’s awesome
Well actually: spoilers...
Toga wasn't vibing with what Deku said later either in the manga. Uraraka is trying to get through to her still though.
The anime dub makes Uraraka sound harsher here. In the manga she said Toga would have to "live with the consequences of her actions" (which is true), but dub said she "deserves what's coming to her".
@@undercvrwtch That's fair. For the record, I don't think Ochako is in the wrong. I do believe she's right, but I think (and it'll be touched on later; probably next season) she could've handled it better. Toga should be held accountable for the things she's done... but that's a conflict of showing versus telling as we haven't seen Toga's actions outright nor is she responsible for the destruction or has even hurt Ochako directly (though I could be misremembering). Of course, Ochako doesn't know Toga's story. An while her story doesn't justify her actions imo, I think it could provide context on how to better approach her reasoning. Not that it matters in this instance, I just think Toga had a valid point on perspective in this fight. Some villains aren't inherently evil but are a product of how they were treated. I feel that is important for a hero to remember, but I also know that's strictly my opinion based on knowledge and experience Ochako wouldn't have and not a fact.
Toga: IGNORING YOUR URGES MAKES THEM WORSE!
Me: No, no she has a point there. I mean It's hard to hide MY urge for Reese's
I don't blame you , they're really good
Literally the greatest candy on earth it’s food of the gods 🤤
I’m gonna build a Reese’s shrine that’s how much I love it
*Ochaco and Toga fighting*
Me and midoriya: WORLD STAR FIGHT
I’ve seen a couple of comments saying how Toga was fully in the wrong and what Uraraka was saying was right. I do agree that what Uraraka is saying is right to a certain extent but Toga isn’t completely in the wrong either. The point that Toga was trying to make in this video, from my knowledge, was how Heroes blatantly kill and believe that what their doing is correct no matter what, justifying their actions without understanding and taking in account of the villains actions and feelings. To put in simple, Toga was always seen as a monster because of her quirk. In order for her to function she needs blood, in which Is the reason everyone feared her including her parents. Toga became a “villain” because no one tried to help or understand her. She joined the villain’s league because they didn’t judge or call her a freak. They understood her and accepted her despite the differences she carried. She wanted help, friends, a family but was never able to do so or obtain those wishes, except the villain’s league. In the video, Toga is saying how its not fair how people in society are labeled as “villains” when they’re driven to extreme extents and are numb from the pain they endured because they where not given help when they needed it. Toga is saying how people who are supposedly “villains” understand her more than the people who are suppose to protect and help; heroes. In this fight between Toga and Uraraka, Toga was hoping to hear that a heroe can understand villains but realized that there was no such heroe. She was given the answer she was hoping to not hear. All Toga wants is a world where there is no black and white but an in between. A world where people understand and love people for how they are born. I believe that if Uraraka said a different answer, an answer that Toga knows is coming from a heart of understanding, that things would’ve turned out different.
To put it in another way, Uraraka's response confirmed whatever biases Toga already held at that point. That's a normal human thing that I wouldn't crap on Toga for, but I think it's fair to say that's what happened. To your point about heros blatantly killing, I think a major reason for Toga worrying about that has to do with Hawks killing Twice, but the thing with that situation is that Hawks indicated that he was hesitant to kill Twice, and only did so after two or more attempts to convince Twice to stand down. When you try to convince someone to submit themselves without using actual violence (or using minimal violence), and that person continues to resist, there has to be some way to control that person, especially if failing to control that person carries a risk of much greater harm to the opposing party in mutual war, or the public. In a state of mutual conflict, Hawks was in a position to act based on weighing the unavoidable tradeoffs of consequences, and Twice willingly put himself in a position where he could be killed as an enemy of that same conflict.
Facts
I'm glad to see Ochako be more relevant this season.
Literally the fist action the entire season, she's not even in the intro/outro.
@@NapoleonBonaparteMAGA Nah, she's been involved in helping out people evacuate as well, and in Deku's training flashback.
@Napoleon Bonaparte She's the MVP next part of season towards the end and got spotlight in new OP.
She will have a great moment towards the second part. And kinda hinted by new OP.
Even though she was helping evacuate, she still should've been involved in the battle. I mean yeah, she's more interested in rescuing, but, she didn't learn Martial Arts for no reason...
I mean uraraka isn’t wrong , every action you take , everything you do or say will have a consequence , and it will catch up to you ,toga can’t stop drinking blood and hurting others , so at this point , she should’ve know that she would face consequences for what she is doing .
Yeah exactly like I feel bad for Toga for sure, but you can't just go around killing/threatening people and expect people to feel sorry for you and be empathetic.
Considering the fact that she can’t physically live or function without blood, i have a little more sympathy. Yea it’s still vile what she does, but she only does it because her body literally cannot function without consuming blood
It's a shame that there are those who either don't know it or don't want to accept it
@@THEKXRMANETWORKThere could've been a better way. Of course I blame it on her parents for oppressing her for so long,but she could've learned how to use her quirk for good. Could've been some what of a vigilante,taking care of her needs,while not harming the innocent. Learning to live with it,rather then living for it.
@@Yourfavoritemess Unfortunately, Quirks like hers are seen as PURELY villainess.... she was doomed to be on the path of villainy..
Looks like Toga didn't like her answer
Seems like it, the tears says it all
Best Anime Female Battle Between Ochaco and Toga! Love this!
try to use the word women more than female :)
Objectively untrue
@@mikalkingsman662 Yeah, good point
@@g00fy_516 Right, I see your point
@@zakirstocks9514 cool, thanks :D
It's disappointing that Himiko didn't keep the eyepatch, made her look more menacing
How the fxck did it get to the point where she NEEDED an eyepatch?!
Toga had so many chances to make friends but I guess her quirk doesn’t help at all. Maybe she is cursed in that way.
Could explain a lot
0:00 Zero Satellites
0:29 Uraraka's answer to Toga
Definitely enjoyed this episode when I saw it
Why are people acting like Ururaka's being unreasonable.
I think Toga knows that Ochako is right but the insanity produced from her quirk won't let her.
As well in spies in disguise the protagonist lance tells the villain Killian why should he feel bad if he hurt him since he was a terrorist and Killain said that he saw EVERY SINGLE ONE of his men die and wants to kill everyone at Lance’s agency as revenge showing that not all villains are heartless but the heroes think they don’t deserve sympathy or anything like that since they are the “Good guys” and no one should feel bad for the villains
I know Toga has her backstory and circumstances, But Uraraka’s words at 0:29 were correct
Considering Toga literally cannot help it (she NEEDS blood, it's a literal requirement for her to function) and the people around her never once tried to help her manage her urges in a healthy manner... no. Not really.
Spoiler Alert🚨🚨
I can't wait to see how Deku answers to Toga would look like when Final War gets adapted to anime on Season 7 but one problem is it's until next year 2024 the manga is still continuing
Even if she is correct she still felt hurt
@R. Jay She is correct. More so in the sub/manga. The dub made Uraraka's line harsher. She said in manga/sub Toga has to live with three consequences of her actions, which is true. The narrative just frames Toga being somewhat empathetic because we have a POV of her that Uraraka doesn't have.
@@Gioppdumister honestly I think toga was cursed from the beginning and there is no “ healthy way” of her dealing with her quirk , from what we saw , her fascination with blood started small , she first felt amazed and fascinated with blood , then she started consuming from small animals ( that bird ) , then I believe it was stated in one of the recent mha books that toga also cut and bit herself so she could appreciate her own blood , basically she took major steps into her obsession , so trying to keep her “ stuck “ , to stop her from walking any further is basically suppressing her urges .
Just learned Nami from One Piece and Ochako share the same voice actor wow lol
Toga is so complex, hori really created a sad villain. Only mature intellect ppl know togas story and pain. Ochako failed so bad
Toga's a brat who couldn't handle the fact people didn't wanna hang out with the girl who carried dead birds around. And decided commiting nation wide terrorist attacks and killing thousands would fix it.
Imagine the fight being over Deku.
That's what I thought as well!
The fight is about Toga trying to find connection to someone
If it was then it would be a W fight
Himiko also loves Ochaco as well.
I knew these two have rivalry not just hero vs villain
Whoa, Toga and Ochako really are best friends.
Did they ever release the OST for this scene? It definitely sounded like a remix of Toga’s nature in season 5.
I don't like how they try to make it seem like Toga isnt doing anything wrong idk is it just me but i feel like they are trying to justify her actions and make us feel bad for her
Those perceptive enough or with a good set of morals wont feel bad for her
She has to live with the consequences of her actions
She bitches about Twice but gave no thought to the innocents she has killed or their families
I don't think they are, really, I think there are two sides to the story, they're exposing the flaw in the hero system in that they only see certain people as worthy of humanity and sympathy, and because Himiko wasn't one of those people, she was led into villainy. Of course, nobody told her to become a villain, but that's exactly why I say there's two sides to every coin.
@@imthebossmermaid3648 That wasnt the hero system, that was her parents that did that to Himiko and pushed to being a villain
Just like society didnt fail Twice. His boss failed him and Twice failed himself from abusing his power
Also, a villain killed Twice’s parents and left him a orphan, not hero society
@@aceclover758 That's true but I'm talking about how society at large sees those with "villainous" powers as inherently evil and unfit for heroism. Thus leading them into villainy, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. And yes, it IS the hero system, because remember Stain used to be a hero but people turned on him because of his Quirk.
And I'm not erasing their wicked deeds, of course not. Himiko Toga might be my favorite character, but I'm not justifying her becoming a serial killer, nor Twice, although I like him. But I'm explaining why they were led on the path that they were.
@@imthebossmermaid3648 Which is hypocritical since fire manipulation should be seen as a villainous power since fire is only good for destruction aka combat
Twice’s powers were never seen as villainous
Toga was so dumb here. If she wanted to ask Ochako a question, why did she attack her? She could've told her that she just wanted to talk. Maybe Ochako would've listened to her.
First she wanted to see her reaction then ask. Twice died by hero and twice was like a friend to all but he died in defense
On top of that, Toga actively pulled Uraraka away from evacuating civilians for the sake of asking her this question, using a disguise that she likely acquired from wounding the person she impersonated, and after Uraraka just witnessed Asui almost get hurt trying to rescue someone else. Considering what Uraraka was out there to do in the first place, I don't think it was even the right time and place for Toga to even raise the issue, but I think her tactics to get Uraraka's attention made the opportunity less ideal.
I’m on Team Toga with this.
But not with the killing nor blood part, right?
😶😥
Toga was a bit unfair to ask by knife point. lol
Toga is crazy and kills people.
@@SuperboyLilly you should watch her backstory before making assumptions 😡
@Anjola I'm caught up with the Manga, she's crazy and kills people.
Nice, I love it when villains are called out for their evil
Toga your the anime version of Harley. That’s why i love her character. She’s just so unstable and in need of help I can’t help but want her to get better. If everyone can let Harley redeem herself after killing thousands of people and tons of little kids than so can toga. She can just be like Harley as an anti hero
Is it just me or was the dub extra good in this fight or maybe just a little bit better than the sub?
Yes, because the dub girls don't do that cutey girly voice the sub cast does.
The dub staff is phenomenal
0:29 🤨Why she crying?😢
She's only there cuz Jin was killed and she wanted to know if Ochako or Deku would actually try to save her or murder her like Jin was. Ochako's statement tells Toga the answer.
@@Gioppdumister Well Deku hasn't killed anyone I don't think.
@@destroyerblackdragon he hasn't but that's not the point.
Toga is asking "will you try to save me?" Ochako's response of "you'll get what's coming to you" tells her that, no. No they won't. She'll be killed like Jin was.
While that likely isn't what either Izuku or Ochako would do, it's irrelevant because that's not what Toga heard. That's not what Toga saw.
@@Gioppdumister She saw a monster, a number of hero fans like me and you probably saw this as well. No hero, only a soldier of war.
Problem here is that Toga isn't exactly rational, so a more empathetic response might have caused her to come around, but she hasn't really given Ochako any reason to do so or even know to do so, I mean she barely knows anything about Toga, and everything she says just sounds like lame excuses to her (which, yeah, kind of)
I can almost hear Medusa from soul eater in Ochako's voice
Uraraka is so awesome 💖💖💖
I agree. I hope she and Deku will confess their feelings
@@Mandalorian_Goblinslayer Me too
@MisterMAYHEM By the end most likely, after the war is over.
That’s It Get Her Uraraka
I stg I haven't heard Luci Christian in forever!!
How would Spider-Man and his rogues gallery of villains fare in the My Hero Academia universe?
Spiderman would honestly be a middle ranked hero like Kamui Woods and Edgeshot, his rogues however may not rank higher than petty criminals by most standards since the strongest of Spiderman's villains are usually Venom & Carnage
0:28 ...It feels like there's half a line missing there.
I Like That Anime 😁😁😁🤣🤣🤣
Poor baby Toga ❤
When is the newest episode being dubbed ? I don't watch subbed.
I NEED to hug her :{
Princess Tutu vs. Mio Naganohara!
E é por isso que ngm fala mais de mha.
Mais a toga e fogo meu
Nice
If anyone needed there quirk erased by overhaul it was her
Long Live Luci. ❤
I don’t know why I compare the hero’s and villains with (spies in disguise since in that movie the agency builds weapons that kill and the members show no hesitation or regret and they don’t think about if the villains they kill have families)
Cool 😎
Toga was just trying to find a friend on ochako but she couldn't find one and the why toga gave ochako advice 😭
If Toga hadn’t killed people I would’ve wanted her to change
Season and episode
Ya’ll why are people hating on the villains sm😭like I get that them killing people is obv bad but I still feel bad for them. They didn’t deserve all the things they went through honestly
Idk maybe because they were previously vibing on top of a giant stampeding through multiple cities killing hundreds of innocent people,including children.
Idk that’s just a thought?
They kinda did
@@sparkls4492 not rlly but I can kinda see that
I meant like before they became villains & stuff when they were all innocent that they didn’t deserve that
*Me:* Who loves Deku more?
*Toga:* I do!
*Ochako:* NO! I DO!
*Toga:* DIE!
*Ochako:* YOU FIRST!!!
*Me:* (chanting) Fight! Fight! Fight!
*Deku:* 😳😳😳
*me thinking* Welp this is awkward
I think the writer would say who likes deku more.
This is why I Stan toga
There's a similarity between blood and tears. Both make a piece who we are. The differences are ones pure and one dark who holds which?
Ochako vs Toga Are Still Being Fighting over Deku that's there Best True Boyfriend Love.❤
I don't think it's just that
0:35-0:38 Is it a bad thing that I feel bad for Himiko even though she's a villain? 🤔😟
No I also feel bad for her also.
The best Waifu battle in the history of Waifu battles ever.
What do you mean by "waifu"? Do you mean "girls"?
@@SuperPlacido1 Waifu is basically a term for a fictional character, usually in anime or related media, that someone has great, and sometimes romantic, affection for.
0:25
It’s really hard to feel bad for toga and the group, they kill innocent people and don’t even care. They deserve a fate worse than death in my opinion.
I absolutely love Toga and Dabi. They're my favorites. But I just can't feel bad for them. Having a hard life doesn't mean you should ruin society
Even though society is what CAUSED this problem in the first place.... 🤦♂️
@@antonitocotter447The philosophy of Joker lol
“Everyone’s an asshole from time to time so why can’t I just be one all the time???”
@@antonitocotter447 Saying that society caused the problem doesn't address what the appropriate solution is going forward, or where anyone can reasonably draw a line on Toga's actions. It's important to consider and determine at what point Toga becomes accountable for her actions, including how she responds to her past experiences.
@@antonitocotter447 They're not inanimate puppets. They have free will like anyone else. They CHOSE to be killers.
I hope toga changes and bes on the hero's side
Nami from One Piece is that you?
And she's fighting Miss Doublefinger again...
Toga is basically a stand-in for LGBT
Spoilers for the Manga
They fucc
No way
@@CJ_521 Yeah, just wait. It'll be fun
Wait, so they become lovers.🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Ugh that’s disgusting. How repulsive. Which chapter?
@@zillafire101 chapter?
Ah Toga, the massive hypocrite like many villains
“Why can’t heroes leave me alone!”
Also villains:
“Imma rob and kill innocent people who can’t fight back”
Yeah I have to say MHA as whole isn't very goot at writing sympathetic villains. (With some exceptions like Lady Nagant)
Things work best when they have villains like AFO who are just monsters
@@password4531 Isn't that every villain
@desirefabela6421 when they're just monsters? Nah I mean like when they try to redeem the villains in some way.
The villains I mean are when they don't try to get any sympathy from the viewer, hence why I called them "monsters".
@@password4531 No I meant aren't all villains trying to give off that vibe that says "feel sorry for me cause I'm sad" not just MHA villains
@@desirefabela6421 You havent read much, have you?
¿¿¿por que me siento como si viera a deku y katsuki??? ... XD
I know I'm 10 months late but I'm all caught up and I completely disagree with this scene and please hear me out. Toga's story is tragic while Uraraka's isn't as bad as Toga's at all but they both have reasons as to why they are doing what they are doing. Toga's entire attitude is because of how her parents treated her and bow she was treated by others and society. She got bullied so bad to the point people were telling her to change and that her smile was even ugly. She was called ugly and was constantly told how to be and what she should do. Toga's parents LITERALLY abandoned her because they found out she had a quirk. And instead of staying and trying ways to help her all they did was build resentment and hatred for her and then ended up leaving her? Like are you dead serious right now? Y'all saying Toga deserves what is coming to her but yet never seem to understand that she never had good people in her life she never had someone to lead her in the right direction. Heck Dabi wasn't trying to lead her in the right direction, and everything that she was doing she thought it was ok. Why? Because no one was ever there to tell her that "hey that's wrong" or "hey let me lead you down the right path". Again her own parents abandoned her and the only thing they ever did to her was say "WHY CAN'T YOU JUST BE NORMAL" and then they abandoned her leaving her and she fell right into the league of villains hands. I don't agree with the people saying she deserves what's coming to her. She thinks what she's doing is normal again no one ever cared to truly help her put yourselves in her shoes.
Nobody is gonna read allat 💀
@@PapsybiiSolos Lol
I think the more immediate problem that this scene illustrates is that Uraraka wasn't in a position to validate Toga's feelings at this point in time. She didn't know much about Toga by the point, her first encounter with Toga wasn't good for her or her friends, and Toga actively pulled her away from her job of evacuating civilians just to raise this issue. It wasn't the right time or place for Toga to stake her emotional wellbeing on seeking validation from Uraraka.
@@kmgyening I can definitely understand where your coming from but it looking at Toga's character throughout the series when she started becoming obsessed with Deku and Uraraka you can see how she spills her guts out to Uraraka when she gets the chance but Toga never really understood when it was a good time to talk to someone about how they feel or who they are. As you can see if Toga's backstory she was so used to having her feelings cast out and had to act like they didn't exist so now that she's able to I'm pretty sure that's probably why she decided to do it now even though like you said it definitely wasn't the time for it, but again Toga clearly has mental health problems and the league knows this and leads her on into believing what she's doing is right they know well what is right and wrong but don't care so as long as Toga is doing something useful for them they will continue to lead her down this path. Sorry if most of this didn't make sense I'm just now waking up 😂
@era3553 It's fine I got what you were saying. To be clear, I'm not criticizing either character here. What I mean to say is that this scene illustrates the perspectives (and lack thereof) that both of them were coming from, and how that influenced their interaction, especially Uraraka. She was so emotionally invested in saving the civilians that learning that Toga used a dishonest tactic to get her attention made her less likely to consider what Toga had to say. And unfortunately, Toga interpreted Uraraka's response in a way that confirmed biases she already held.
Her, Ururaka, and Deku all in bed:
Toga: Champagne?
Izuku: Maybe something stronger?
Ochacho: Like poison?
Toga 🙁
Just wait until she confess her feelings to Deku
Honestly, I'm hoping they don't give Ochaco the Sakura treatment. I want a fully fleshed out leading female character in Shonen for once. Judging from this episode though, I don't think that's gonna happen.
Watch jjk
She'll have a good moment later this season
Ochaco is pretty solid. Idk where in this episode gave you that opinion
Don't you mean Hinata treatment because Hinata is the real useless one
I love uraraka
I was sad when I read this part in the manga....if that conversation was handled better Toga "might" have gave up for the better.
You can tell she was genuinely hurt be ochaco's response
That wasn’t the Christian answer sweet Christian Ochako
God loves you and Jesus died and rose for you. Accept him and let go of your sins and desires and follow him. Take care. Great content from the English dub!
I’m a bit confused. What exactly is Toga up to?
She wanted to understand the hero's motivations and why since they preach that they will save everyone no matter who they are, why it was so easy for Hawks to kill Twice and Ochako essentially made it sound like that they deserved it
Still seems wrong to kill other villains. Especially because twice was sad and Hawks just straight up committed murder to him. Also it might make heroes look bad.
I actually liked twice
@@mexicanitachi same bro It was tragic that he died and I can imagine how upset toga must be feeling right now
@@mexicanitachi so did I, he was like the Anime version of Deadpool rest in peace
It's really hard to feel sympathy for crazy people who keep hurting innocent people and yet wanna be left alone just sayin
The battle of waifus has begun
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Do people still consider Uraraka to be a terrible anime female lead? I would love to hear their reasonings because I feel that’s absolute nonsense
Not that I know of I'm not 2 sure myself
Well she’s just annoying and to over determined at times
Everything she does revolves around Deku. She went from being someone with personal motivation to the love interest. Even this fight revolves to a large part around Deku.
@@Zufallige.Eidechse.auf.Felseneh overexaggeration
@@ericlammers3492not really
Yeah no not feeling for the vampire here toga’s story is indeed tragic but it’s not an excuse to go around killing/threatening someone as you please maybe as she was something like stains sidekick kinda along the lines of la brava then maybe I’d give her a pass cause I think she’s not necessarily in the wrong here the only reason she is like this is due to her quirk being seen as villainous and I hope this translation is correct they saw her personality as villainous since quirk = personality kinda like how bakugo’s personality is like a raging explosion or how kirishima’s personality is to always protect someone like his hardening quirk is but toga ain’t an anti hero she’s a villain so she is still in the wrong but I can see her reasoning why but still no
They are fake hero in heroes of academy.
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Toga was set up to fail and die from the start. Even in the earlier seasons, they hint something WILL happen to her which will bring her downfall
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The Waffle house has found its new host
I kin Toga and also agree on this. Hero society in my hero academia is literal garbage. Oh we can act all high and mighty beat up and lock up villains. But who's gonna save the villains? Yes you can't undo the things you do. It's a natural part of life. But you can't be like "Oh you're villain so you're a threat and need to be disposed of
As reluctant as I was, watching Hawks kill Twice pretty much gave me the impression (Plus the fact that they ALWAYS go on and on about the rankings, as if they're only keeping up the act to try and build a rep
@@fierytigergaming8112 i know right. It makes me wonder who are the true villains in this story
@@sunbrah It's more painful when Dabi does his broadcast, because you know that deep down - he's right. The only recent hero who wasn't concerned for his reputation was All Might - as hinted at from the fact that he was willing to step down from being the No 1 hero (Alongside the physical weakness, I mean
Why should we feel sorry for these villains, it's their own fault for doing something that they know would make them end up going to jail or getting killed, they should think before they act, and don't blame the heroes for doing their jobs, protecting the citizens, so you're basically saying that they should let the villains do what they want just because they have tragic back stories, that doesn't make sense at all, if they're sad then they should deal with it, we have heroes like Batman who have one of the most tragic back stories and is he going around killing people because he's sad, no, he's saving lives, so that's proof that it's the villain's fault for why they're like this
@@fierytigergaming8112 Dude Hawks killing Twice made sense, if he felt sorry for Twice and let him go the whole of Japan probably the entire world would've been doomed because of his quirk, Hawks actually felt bad for Twice and was giving him a chance to surrender but he didn't listen, so it's Twice's fault for getting killed, and we all know that the worse kind of villain is a one that never gives up, so imagine trying to save the others, and just by seeing how they didn't want to give up they clearly don't want to be saved by heroes or anyone else, that is also proof that they know that what they're doing is wrong and that they're insane
I honestly hope I don't see Toga ever again she always annoyed me I just want someone to send her Bye Bye.
Massive L for Uravity all around. She lost in combat and in conversation. Ochako had better education, better training, and better upbringing. She really has no reason to be failing so much.
? Toga is an experienced serial killer. She even stabbed Aizawa in the Overhaul arc, so you're definitely undermining Uraraka against a formidable opponent.
Ochako interned at a martial arts specialist
@@manhwafanatic For a week. lol