What do you think about the DJI Air 3? Are you upset about the sensor size and lack of aperture control? Or does the additional flight time and 3x lens make it worth it for you? PS: I've discovered that the FlyMore combo does not come with the filters. Apologies for being misinformed on that one!
Great breakdown and comparison to the Magic 3 and Mavic 3 Pro. I’ve been looking at both but clearly for me the nonprofessional, the marginal improvements don’t justify the substantial price increase.
To get proper motion blur without ND’s or anything, just process the video on after effects and use pixel motion blur for full control. Then u can also get stills from the videos if shot with a higher shutter speed 🤙🏼
You can see the vertical FOV increasing quite dramatically when he changes the setting at 5:32. Then he proceeds to tell us it's "the same as cropping 16x9". Makes me wonder what else he missed with that lack of attention.
I said it’s “pretty much the same.” In most instances I’d personally still prefer to shoot horizontal for drone shots. I’d rather have the option to use it for horizontal and vertical projects and I’ll just reframe to keep my subject in the center. If you know it’s only going to used for social, you can use the vertical mode.
I am annoyed that the ND Filter Set was made a separate, $100 USD purchase - NOT included in either Fly More Combo - just as there is no charging brick, just the hub requiring ANOTHER $70 (65 watt) or $100 (100 watt) so on top of the $1550 cost you have another $170-200. I bought the RC-2 Fly More. These upsells get expensive and DJI says they removed stuff "to give people options" 😒 🙄 yeah, and soften the price shock. Its absolutely worth it, but that is deceptive stuff right there. Also your Mini 3 Pro flying friend obviously didn't have the plus battery.
Linus Tech Tips just did a great video on the lies of “starting at ___” pricing for tech products. He talks about it in respect to computers, but it feels like it perfectly encapsulates the Air 3 pricing for all the reasons you’ve given. And he actually did have the plus battery on the Mini 3 Pro
Seems to me if you simply love flying drones and -or if this is your first drone, get the Air 3...it is a no brainer. However, if you are a content producer where photo and video quality is your main concern, stick with the Air2s if you have one or invest in the Mavic 3. It's as simple as that. This is a nice upgrade, but without a sensor upgrade, it is not a game changer.
On vertical shooting; While it doesn't actually rotate like a mini does, what it does do is it uncrops from the normal 16x9 aspect ratio to the full sensor's 4x3 ratio and then crops in for vertical. This does give you a slightly larger field of view vertically than just shooting in the normal horizontal mode and then cropping in post.
Let me start by saying I just subscribed to your channel because Finally a drone content creator that actually lays out the facts from the real consumer point of view not just the die hard videographer snob price is absolutely a major factor for any drone purchase which is why is why I started with mini 3 pro and avata then got the air 3 and was like oh heck yes this in every single way an improvement to 90% of dji consumer based drones at literally half the price or the same price as lower models I absolutely love all the added tech and the range is what I needed so much because it’s not about how far you can take the drone it’s the ability to penetrate through buildings and trees and other obstacles when your in the city that is the biggest upgrade that is most appreciated about this drone on top of the wind resistance which I was struggling with on my mini 3 pro and avata this air 3 is ultra stable. All in all you just can’t beat it absolutely amazing! Thank you for making this content.
So far, so good with the Air 3. My only complaint is the RC2 battery life is horrid. I did an update (initial and it was easy 1st time through), used it to fly the drone about 20 minutes, then shut the drone down and used the remotes map to place some waypoints and save the path. That took up 75% of my RC2 battery life.
The really big bummer is the different aperture at the 1x and 3x zoom - which was expected, though. If DJI had at least thought about it and made the ND filters with different grades for the 1x and 3x, so we could use the same shutter speed on both cameras in the same lighting conditions. I really hope that a 3rd party filter manufacturer comes up with ND filters like that. Because it really doesn't make sense to take away light with an ND and then "add" it back with higher ISO...
@@julb1491 Good question... but in the meantime Freewell released their split NDs that address the problem. Bummer that this split ND set starts at ND8/16 instead of ND4/8 or even ND2/4
The smaller sensor is actually an upgrade. While Back Side Illumination is still not on par with true stacked sensors, it is still a major improvement over the standard CMOS. This more than makes up for the Air 3 sensor being slightly smaller than it's predecessor's sensor.
Sorry but i find the image the image of the 1/1.3" quad bayer looks very digital. It's just oversharpened by the internal algorithm and looks amateurish. Clearly not an upgrade. DJI should have kept a 1" CMOS as main cam and add the 70mm 1/1.3" as bonus. At this point the Air3 is just a Mini3Pro with an added 70mm, but way more heavier, bigger and louder.
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No ND filter needed. I use pixel motion blur in after effects. try it!
@@TheAstralOddity Nope, it's the Air 3... They dropped the Mavic. Same as the Mini drones. The only DJI drones that carry the Mavic name, are the Mavic line of drones. Currently the Mavic 3 line up.
Aperture control??? That's for bokeh primarily. Use variable Nd filters for excessive light and iso to compensate. It's a drone, taking primarily land scape, pretty sure the aperture is like a 5.6-8 equivalent of full frame. Going smaller on a small sensor would be almost disastrous except in full on clear sky mid day bright light.
Thank you. I completely agree that the 180* rule is taken way to strict on "landscape" drones. Its WAY more crucial on my fpv drone where i really need it.
ND filters are NOT included in the fly more combo where I live (Japan) I am having a hard time deciding Mini pro 3 or air 3?? I am still rocking an an Air 1 so anything will be a huge upgrade.
I think the sensor size is the biggest problem with the air3. If you only do video then air 3 is a good option but when you also do photo work then the mavic 3 classic is a better option. Currently you can get the mavic 3 classic with rc controller for a little less than the air 3 fly more combo.
Looking at the site... it appears you are correct 😐 They sent them with our unit, and I assumed everything we got was the $1549 FlyMore combo, since we had everything else included. I'd recommend getting them to help with the aperture issue discussed.
@@kylemeshna I just ordered the Air 3 this morning. Lol. I checked and double checked. Dobo also stated that the 100watt charging brick was included with fly more kit. I didn't order ND, but did order the charging brick. Now I'll amend my order to include ND's. Thanks for replying my friend. Safe flying.
So what about the Mini 4Pro? It seems to have everything the Air 3 has, minus the bonus telephoto lens. It costs even less, has the same main sensor as the Air 3, and has less regulatory restrictions. How does that fit into your comparison?
I keep hearing people say that the main camera sensor is the same as the mini 3 Pro and side-by-side videos seem to justify that but then 51 drones and other reviewers are saying it's a new stacked sensor?
According to info @PotatoJet got from DJI, it is the same sensor as in mini 3 pro, but managed by new algorithms and electronics (SoC). As for me... I'm having hard time to make decision between Mavic 3 Pro and Air 3... If M3P would have two lenses (24 and 70) and weight would be under 900g I would go for it (3 lenses would be fine as well, except for the weight). Due to EU regulations it's much more complicated to fly a drone above 900g... For me the issue with A3 is like I don't feel it's a 100% upgrade from A2s. I know missing 5k is not much of deal. Smaller sensor is doing well in mini 3 pro, but still.. It's up and downgrade imho... I'm confussed 🤯
@@deepanshurai4863 with drone weight below 900 grams you can fly in the cities and closer to people with only aplication Check-in which takes no time (oc in allowed areas). With weight above 900 grams you need to call or e-mail to ask for permission. At least tha's how it looks in Poland, but afaik it works more-less the same in entire European Union. Also we have altitude limit to 120 meters above the highest point, the drone is above.
@@mosyon thank you for your response. Can i please ask further? I was looking online about mavic 3 pro, it says it has C1 label. But as i understood, there are subcategories, A1, A2 and A3. If drone is under 900g, it is A1, else A2. Am I right?
So, out of curiosity, you mentioned at least twice that NC filters come with the Fly More package. They do not. So what special package did you get that included ND filters?
Yeah I mentioned that in the pinned comment. The unit they sent us included the ND filters and all the other stuff in the fly more so I assumed it was included
Love the content. Thank you. Agreed about the aperture control. Curious why are we calling these lenses (1x and 3x) "zoom" lenses? Are they not actually "prime" or "fixed" lenses?
Good question. I think it’s Apples fault to be honest. They have popularized the .5x 2x 3x “zoom” terminology and now everyone is adapting to that convention because it is more easily understandable by everyday people. “3x zoom” is easier for most to understand than “70mm full frame equivalent prime lens”
Makes sense. I'm old school and a zoom lens is a mechanical/optical lens that transitions steplessly from 24mm to 70mm. As you said, people are used to pinching their fingers on their phone to "zoom" digitally between the fixed lenses (which I never do). @@kylemeshna
@@w.e.s. i decided to go and get me the mini 4 pro. Still think i'd love the air 3 but because the rule of remote id i decided to let the idea of having the air 3 for now go. I have the mini 4 pro now, but included the remote with build in screen
Are the ND filters really included in the fly more combo? I do not see them anywhere being mentioned in the package content and on the DJI website is seems to be an extra option for USD $99.
@@kylemeshnaI’ve seen multiple videos saying they are suppose to come with the flymore but as you said…when I ordered mines it didn’t say it was included. Im just going to wait for the Freewell Kit is available. Im not a fan of the DJI ND Filters.
Kyle I have a question that I seem to be unable to get a clear answer on. My mavic 2 with Hasselblad has a true 20 megapixel camera, but my mini 3 says 48 megapixel although its adequate it does not compare to my MP2. How do you think the air 3 would stack up against the MP2 just in image quality, not flight features or anything else just cameras? Thanks in advance
The air series has never had aperture control so it was never expected, especailly since its just the mini 3 pro. The lack of 5k and D-Log like the Air 2s might put some people off too.
Yeah it’s never been there so it’s understandable. It’s really just the one thing that’s missing from making this thing basically perfect. DLogM is pretty close and 5k doesn’t really feel necessary to me
Personally compared to Air 2S, I think ill be okay with the stacked, dual native ISO front lit sensor that is better in low light and has better image quality? Not to mention a Telephoto lens on a second equally matched sensor? Noise management, sharpness, lack of chromatic aberration and a lens that's an order of magnitude better. Size IS significant, all factors being equal, but they are not equal in this scenario. The newer sensor is superior in just about every (video) side by side with the only exception being SOME photo IQ. (Original Dobo, Quickass Tutorials have some eye opening side by side comparisons. Now if UPS would just GET here. Been driving around with my Air 3 since 7am. Some 9 hours now. Grrrrr.
Hey! Did you tested it in low light ? The Air2s was very good in low light with the right settings. Also, did you get rid of the oversharpening algorithm in Dlog-M ? thanks
I found it easier to shoot horizontally and crop for vertical and just try to keep everything in the center. You can always keyframe to recenter if needed too
Although aperture control is extremely useful I do think that the overall functionality of the Air 3 makes it a way better option than the Mavic, particularly for the price.
I discovered a new bummer the hard way. Obstacle avoidance isn't all that they say it is. Mine was taken out by dead branches of a lodgepole pine. Admittedly, I should have seen it before it happened, so I'll take some of the blame. Yet, oddly enough the obstacle alarm came on and it never braked as in my settings. In the short time that it took me to look up, the props were already tearing into the dead wood, and tumbling down it came from about 70 feet through many branches on the way down. Not a pretty ending.
I owned Mavic 2 Pro and Phantom 4 Pro, and to be honest I don't see any significant improvements in image quality compared to Mavic 3. On paper it has larger sensor, in reality, the noise reduction on Mavic 3 is quite aggressive, and there's no option to control it via app. Same story with sharpening setting, which I had on Phantom 4 Pro, but not on Mavic 3. Although flying experience is better on Mavic 3, image quality is not what I expected.
What about the purple color cast that the 1 1/3“ sensor in 48MP photo mode produces in high contrast scenes? This is a big flaw on the Mini 3 Pro, most likely produced by de-beyering… is this also noticeable on the Air 3?
Is the Air 3 a Mavic? I have never heard of the Air series being Mavics (I am a Noob though) I have come from flying drones for the sake of flying and building them, to beginning to do photography with them. I liked the look of the Mavic 3 series, especially the pro, of course... but the cost was very high, I couldn't justify spending that much on one drone. The obvious answer was not to buy ONE drone (haha)... I was tossing up between the Air 3 and the Mini 4 pro... the Air 3 won... then the Mini 4 pro won... then the Air 3 won again (and so did the Mini 4 pro) so I did the only thing I could possibly do... I bought both! When people ask which is my favorite, I say the one by DJI is my favorite. I am a beginner (in drone photography)... my advice to someone wanting to get into the hobby, either will be perfect, whichever you get you will be happy with... whichever yo get, you will wish you got the other... so, do what I did, buy one then save up for the other as well! Greetings from Australia (BTW, I just subscribed and tripped over some Kryptonite and strangely, it had no effect on me at all??!! Obviously, subscribing worked! Imagine that!!)
180 degree rule ? I was just going to buy the m3pro after sellling my OG mini but raptured my acl beginning of June , now I’m ok and the air 3 came out so will prob buy that one ..but the mini is still in my mind cause it’s so small perfect those few times I’m hiking and I have to look up the laws in Sweden . But probably will go for the air 3
5:33 No, it's NOT! When you use the vertical mode the sensor gets more details, image expands the viewing area. Just look at your own footage. The framing is different.
Agree @ 6:25... And, ability to switch camera/lenses without stopping record... And audio recording on the controller (as android supports that) (like you can on the RC-RM330 controller USB-C port) For the rest, such a great drone!!! And does anyone know how grab the Screenrecording from the SD card??????? (like you can with the RC-RM330?)
So I sold my mavic 3 because I never used the second camera. I keep saying I’m going to get the mavic 3 pro but for the price, this drone is in heavy consideration. I haven’t quite sold myself on not being able to control the aperture. That is KILLING me. lol.
I currently own the M2P. It's a pretty good drone still, but one big pain is the *ss is the adjustable focus. I can't count how many times I got home and realized that I forgot to adjust the focus and the videos/images came out blurry! Why can't they keep the focus to infinity. For goodness sake, it's a drone, it films landscape. There is no need for manual focus or even adjustable focus. Keep it on infinity or at least AF. I really contemplate selling it and getting a different drone because of it. is the focus on the mavic 3 also adjustable? what about the new Mavic Air 3?
Are you referring to Mavic2 Pro ? what do you mean by "adjustable focus " ? it has AF and AF-C - ( continuous auto focus -the latter, but this can be turned off). AF just does its job well. I had no problems with out of focus shots in the past years on my M2P.
I'm saving you from pulling your hair off 6 months later! 😆 Wait for the Dji Air 3 Pro. I said this weeks ago, when the leaks confirmed that the Air 3 will come with a dual 1/1.3 sensor. PS. Dji is dropping the S version.
The one thing that sets apart the Mavic 3's apart from the Air 3 is the Hasselblad micro 4/3rd sensor which imho has superb noise handling while shooting in low light. Would have expected you to speak about the Hasselblad offering in addition to aperture control and the 3rd camera when comparing it to the Mavic3 pro
They should have included the 100w charger with the drone, without it, its pretty much useless. Charging takes more than half a day. Imagine doing back to back shoots. So add another $100 into the price and the cost of NDs which is needed for this drone for lack of aperture control.
At this point I have so many good USBC chargers that I've never found that to be an issue. So many things take USB-C that I just bring one 100w Charger with me everywhere and call it a day. The lack of NDs in the fly more kit is a huge bummer though...
Your video was helpful. I just ordered mine and it will probably amaze me, sense I am going from a 7 year old Phantom 4 pro plus to this. I will save my money for the RC Pro controller, just for the HDMI port. I love flying with my Skyzone SKY O4X goggles. Which I have been using with my Phantom.
Isn't the predecessor the Air 2, and not the 2S? Otherwise it would be called the 3S, right? It seems like everyone has completely forgot about the Air2
@@bobbyd.6186 That's a fair point, and I know they've made the smaller sensor more powerful on the air. 3. But maybe that's why they didn't go with the full 1inch on it because the air 2 didn't have it. So was the 2s just a one-off name?
@@jonred233 Of course they will not put everything in any drone and make it perfect. How would they sell Air 3S, 4, etc. if there is nothing to upgrade?
I'd say the Fatal flaw in all modern drones is that they've got big brother inside. In other words they won't fly or obey the pilots commands based on geofencing.
I wish they do increase the internal storage. But I doubt the sensor size will change and if it does I want it to change for both sensors, with variable aperture on the main camera if I can get it on both that would be amazing too and the frame rate to increase to 4k 120 and I'd buy that I'm a heart beat!!
It's not compatible with my RC Pro controller. Deal killer. While some are always looking for the latest and greatest, I'll stick with my A2S and M3C. Both can do more than most people who fly them. An upgrade won't change that fact, well, unless you're about bragging rights. LOL.
What’s not perfect about the air 3 the camera if you want to save money just buy the mini Pro or wait for the air 3s to come out, it will have a larger sensor and 5K
What do you think about the DJI Air 3? Are you upset about the sensor size and lack of aperture control? Or does the additional flight time and 3x lens make it worth it for you?
PS: I've discovered that the FlyMore combo does not come with the filters. Apologies for being misinformed on that one!
I had to look at my bag again to see whether it was in a pocket somewhere I missed lol
Great breakdown and comparison to the Magic 3 and Mavic 3 Pro. I’ve been looking at both but clearly for me the nonprofessional, the marginal improvements don’t justify the substantial price increase.
Thank you, liked & subscribed🤝Air 3
Aperture and sensor size does not matter to me whatsoever as I only take casual shots and videos, I never edit those pictures, I just take RAW photos.
ND filters are not included in the fly more combo.
It's a DJI Air 3, there is no such model as a Mavic Air 3
To get proper motion blur without ND’s or anything, just process the video on after effects and use pixel motion blur for full control. Then u can also get stills from the videos if shot with a higher shutter speed 🤙🏼
Good luck processing all that 4K footage in After Effects. Motion blur is quite slow to render in AE.
the vertical crop actually crops a 4:3 image (open gate) not a 16:9 so you actually do get better quality than if you did it in post.
You can see the vertical FOV increasing quite dramatically when he changes the setting at 5:32. Then he proceeds to tell us it's "the same as cropping 16x9". Makes me wonder what else he missed with that lack of attention.
I said it’s “pretty much the same.”
In most instances I’d personally still prefer to shoot horizontal for drone shots. I’d rather have the option to use it for horizontal and vertical projects and I’ll just reframe to keep my subject in the center. If you know it’s only going to used for social, you can use the vertical mode.
I am annoyed that the ND Filter Set was made a separate, $100 USD purchase - NOT included in either Fly More Combo - just as there is no charging brick, just the hub requiring ANOTHER $70 (65 watt) or $100 (100 watt) so on top of the $1550 cost you have another $170-200. I bought the RC-2 Fly More. These upsells get expensive and DJI says they removed stuff "to give people options" 😒 🙄 yeah, and soften the price shock. Its absolutely worth it, but that is deceptive stuff right there.
Also your Mini 3 Pro flying friend obviously didn't have the plus battery.
Linus Tech Tips just did a great video on the lies of “starting at ___” pricing for tech products. He talks about it in respect to computers, but it feels like it perfectly encapsulates the Air 3 pricing for all the reasons you’ve given.
And he actually did have the plus battery on the Mini 3 Pro
Seems to me if you simply love flying drones and -or if this is your first drone, get the Air 3...it is a no brainer. However, if you are a content producer where photo and video quality is your main concern, stick with the Air2s if you have one or invest in the Mavic 3. It's as simple as that. This is a nice upgrade, but without a sensor upgrade, it is not a game changer.
It’s a big sensor upgrade actually
Would you preffer the Air 2S over the mini 3 pro?
On vertical shooting; While it doesn't actually rotate like a mini does, what it does do is it uncrops from the normal 16x9 aspect ratio to the full sensor's 4x3 ratio and then crops in for vertical. This does give you a slightly larger field of view vertically than just shooting in the normal horizontal mode and then cropping in post.
Let me start by saying I just subscribed to your channel because Finally a drone content creator that actually lays out the facts from the real consumer point of view not just the die hard videographer snob price is absolutely a major factor for any drone purchase which is why is why I started with mini 3 pro and avata then got the air 3 and was like oh heck yes this in every single way an improvement to 90% of dji consumer based drones at literally half the price or the same price as lower models I absolutely love all the added tech and the range is what I needed so much because it’s not about how far you can take the drone it’s the ability to penetrate through buildings and trees and other obstacles when your in the city that is the biggest upgrade that is most appreciated about this drone on top of the wind resistance which I was struggling with on my mini 3 pro and avata this air 3 is ultra stable. All in all you just can’t beat it absolutely amazing! Thank you for making this content.
That was the way I approached this video. Thanks for the feedback! I think you’ll
Be happy with the air3!
I have a mini 3 pro and thinking on getting an air 3 is it really worth it?
So far, so good with the Air 3. My only complaint is the RC2 battery life is horrid. I did an update (initial and it was easy 1st time through), used it to fly the drone about 20 minutes, then shut the drone down and used the remotes map to place some waypoints and save the path. That took up 75% of my RC2 battery life.
I hope Polar Pro will make ND filters with a different ND grade for 24mm and 70mm, ex: ND16 24mm & ND8 70mm.
That would make some sense given the different apertures. @polarpro what do you think?
I really hope that, too!
7x zoom on the mavic 3 is a must. I used it all the time to spy and zoom in on my crush as she walks home from school.
Lol thought this was serious when I started reading. Spying on your crush is about all that 7x is good for 😂😂
The really big bummer is the different aperture at the 1x and 3x zoom - which was expected, though. If DJI had at least thought about it and made the ND filters with different grades for the 1x and 3x, so we could use the same shutter speed on both cameras in the same lighting conditions. I really hope that a 3rd party filter manufacturer comes up with ND filters like that. Because it really doesn't make sense to take away light with an ND and then "add" it back with higher ISO...
I wonder if you could mod one yourself? Might be easy to remove the filter elements from the housings and swap around
@@julb1491 Good question... but in the meantime Freewell released their split NDs that address the problem. Bummer that this split ND set starts at ND8/16 instead of ND4/8 or even ND2/4
freewell makes filters for this that is 2 different shades in one filter
Freewell Split ND 4-Pack Filter Kit
The smaller sensor is actually an upgrade. While Back Side Illumination is still not on par with true stacked sensors, it is still a major improvement over the standard CMOS. This more than makes up for the Air 3 sensor being slightly smaller than it's predecessor's sensor.
Sorry but i find the image the image of the 1/1.3" quad bayer looks very digital. It's just oversharpened by the internal algorithm and looks amateurish. Clearly not an upgrade. DJI should have kept a 1" CMOS as main cam and add the 70mm 1/1.3" as bonus. At this point the Air3 is just a Mini3Pro with an added 70mm, but way more heavier, bigger and louder.
No ND filter needed. I use pixel motion blur in after effects.
try it!
Processing every clip in AE sounds super fun 🥲
It's not a "Mavic Air 3"...
Correct, that doesn't exist 😆😆😆
yes, it is it's first edition was the mavic Air
@@TheAstralOddity Nope, it's the Air 3... They dropped the Mavic. Same as the Mini drones. The only DJI drones that carry the Mavic name, are the Mavic line of drones. Currently the Mavic 3 line up.
@@TheAstralOddity show me where it says Mavic... You can't just pretend it's part of the name when it isn't. It's the Dji air 3. Period.
Aperture control??? That's for bokeh primarily.
Use variable Nd filters for excessive light and iso to compensate.
It's a drone, taking primarily land scape, pretty sure the aperture is like a 5.6-8 equivalent of full frame.
Going smaller on a small sensor would be almost disastrous except in full on clear sky mid day bright light.
Thank you. I completely agree that the 180* rule is taken way to strict on "landscape" drones. Its WAY more crucial on my fpv drone where i really need it.
Yea way more movement and closer to stuff in FPV.
ND filters are NOT included in the fly more combo where I live (Japan) I am having a hard time deciding Mini pro 3 or air 3?? I am still rocking an an Air 1 so anything will be a huge upgrade.
I think the sensor size is the biggest problem with the air3. If you only do video then air 3 is a good option but when you also do photo work then the mavic 3 classic is a better option. Currently you can get the mavic 3 classic with rc controller for a little less than the air 3 fly more combo.
I don't think ND filters are included. Just sayin.
Looking at the site... it appears you are correct 😐 They sent them with our unit, and I assumed everything we got was the $1549 FlyMore combo, since we had everything else included.
I'd recommend getting them to help with the aperture issue discussed.
@@kylemeshna
I just ordered the Air 3 this morning. Lol. I checked and double checked. Dobo also stated that the 100watt charging brick was included with fly more kit. I didn't order ND, but did order the charging brick. Now I'll amend my order to include ND's. Thanks for replying my friend. Safe flying.
They included in the RUclips kits lol
So what about the Mini 4Pro? It seems to have everything the Air 3 has, minus the bonus telephoto lens. It costs even less, has the same main sensor as the Air 3, and has less regulatory restrictions. How does that fit into your comparison?
I still REALLY like the tele lens. But if you don’t think that’s worth it, the image in the mini 4 pro looks awesome from what I’ve seen
Aperture control is reserved for the higher end mavic 3 series..plus the great Hasselblad optics for great photos and video.
I keep hearing people say that the main camera sensor is the same as the mini 3 Pro and side-by-side videos seem to justify that but then 51 drones and other reviewers are saying it's a new stacked sensor?
According to info @PotatoJet got from DJI, it is the same sensor as in mini 3 pro, but managed by new algorithms and electronics (SoC).
As for me... I'm having hard time to make decision between Mavic 3 Pro and Air 3... If M3P would have two lenses (24 and 70) and weight would be under 900g I would go for it (3 lenses would be fine as well, except for the weight). Due to EU regulations it's much more complicated to fly a drone above 900g...
For me the issue with A3 is like I don't feel it's a 100% upgrade from A2s. I know missing 5k is not much of deal. Smaller sensor is doing well in mini 3 pro, but still.. It's up and downgrade imho... I'm confussed 🤯
@mosyon why is complicated to fly a drone that is above 900g in EU? I'm curious
@@deepanshurai4863 with drone weight below 900 grams you can fly in the cities and closer to people with only aplication Check-in which takes no time (oc in allowed areas). With weight above 900 grams you need to call or e-mail to ask for permission.
At least tha's how it looks in Poland, but afaik it works more-less the same in entire European Union. Also we have altitude limit to 120 meters above the highest point, the drone is above.
Yes it’s stacked technology Sony !
@@mosyon thank you for your response. Can i please ask further? I was looking online about mavic 3 pro, it says it has C1 label. But as i understood, there are subcategories, A1, A2 and A3. If drone is under 900g, it is A1, else A2. Am I right?
Good stuff! Keep on flying.
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Hmmm, I'll still take the Mavic 3 Classic tbh
Classic is a super solid value, but now I just NEED that 3x in my life.
best review I have seen about air 3
then compare it with mavic 3 classic which pretty much close in price. what do you think about it?
Is it worth upgrading from a mini 2? Looking for a bigger drone that is better than the mini 2
yes
Killer review bro!
Thanks papi
So, out of curiosity, you mentioned at least twice that NC filters come with the Fly More package. They do not. So what special package did you get that included ND filters?
Yeah I mentioned that in the pinned comment. The unit they sent us included the ND filters and all the other stuff in the fly more so I assumed it was included
@@kylemeshna okay, now i feel better... you had me digging the box out of the recycle bin thinking i threw mine away... lol
Love the content. Thank you. Agreed about the aperture control. Curious why are we calling these lenses (1x and 3x) "zoom" lenses? Are they not actually "prime" or "fixed" lenses?
Good question. I think it’s Apples fault to be honest. They have popularized the .5x 2x 3x “zoom” terminology and now everyone is adapting to that convention because it is more easily understandable by everyday people.
“3x zoom” is easier for most to understand than “70mm full frame equivalent prime lens”
Makes sense. I'm old school and a zoom lens is a mechanical/optical lens that transitions steplessly from 24mm to 70mm. As you said, people are used to pinching their fingers on their phone to "zoom" digitally between the fixed lenses (which I never do). @@kylemeshna
All the ads and info from DJI say 24mm and 70mm just 1x/ 3x on screen…
So each lens has a digital zoom ? I'm yet to have this confirmed
2x prime lenses yes ?
@@matt79hz yes the 1x(24mm) zooms to 3x digital zoom or you can select the 3x (70mm) camera and then zoom to 9x digital zoom
I'm thinking to upgrade to the air 3, but just curious - how's the live time of the battery of the remotecontroller with the screen build in ?
Just get the regular remote
@@w.e.s. i decided to go and get me the mini 4 pro. Still think i'd love the air 3 but because the rule of remote id i decided to let the idea of having the air 3 for now go. I have the mini 4 pro now, but included the remote with build in screen
Are the ND filters really included in the fly more combo? I do not see them anywhere being mentioned in the package content and on the DJI website is seems to be an extra option for USD $99.
That's what I thought too, when I pre-ordered mine I added an ND set and then I heard him say it's included and now I'm second guessing myself 😂
I thought they were included since they sent em to us with our unit and told us we were getting the fly more. Turns out they are an additional $99 😔
@@kylemeshnaI’ve seen multiple videos saying they are suppose to come with the flymore but as you said…when I ordered mines it didn’t say it was included. Im just going to wait for the Freewell Kit is available. Im not a fan of the DJI ND Filters.
@@kylemeshna That is a shame. Very crucial bit to have them. I have bought them, but was hoping they were included.. Great review however.
Kyle I have a question that I seem to be unable to get a clear answer on. My mavic 2 with Hasselblad has a true 20 megapixel camera, but my mini 3 says 48 megapixel although its adequate it does not compare to my MP2. How do you think the air 3 would stack up against the MP2 just in image quality, not flight features or anything else just cameras? Thanks in advance
Does it really come with an ND filter set?
No it does not. Mentioned in pinned comment
The air series has never had aperture control so it was never expected, especailly since its just the mini 3 pro.
The lack of 5k and D-Log like the Air 2s might put some people off too.
Yeah it’s never been there so it’s understandable. It’s really just the one thing that’s missing from making this thing basically perfect. DLogM is pretty close and 5k doesn’t really feel necessary to me
Has d- log
@@GregFarless D-Log M... which is close and grades nicely, but not as good a true DLog
@@kylemeshna Brosky didn't get the drone for free and still trying to kissass claiming it has 48mpx sensor xddd
Personally compared to Air 2S, I think ill be okay with the stacked, dual native ISO front lit sensor that is better in low light and has better image quality? Not to mention a Telephoto lens on a second equally matched sensor? Noise management, sharpness, lack of chromatic aberration and a lens that's an order of magnitude better. Size IS significant, all factors being equal, but they are not equal in this scenario. The newer sensor is superior in just about every (video) side by side with the only exception being SOME photo IQ. (Original Dobo, Quickass Tutorials have some eye opening side by side comparisons. Now if UPS would just GET here. Been driving around with my Air 3 since 7am. Some 9 hours now. Grrrrr.
Ah the UPS waiting game…
@@kylemeshna yep... it's so hot out I can't do much... but I hope to get at least a single flight in today 🙃
Hey! Did you tested it in low light ? The Air2s was very good in low light with the right settings. Also, did you get rid of the oversharpening algorithm in Dlog-M ? thanks
Great job, Kyle!
Looks pretty slick for an updated drone! did you find it good for vertical cropping?
I found it easier to shoot horizontally and crop for vertical and just try to keep everything in the center. You can always keyframe to recenter if needed too
Is it possible to livestream with this drone?
Although aperture control is extremely useful I do think that the overall functionality of the Air 3 makes it a way better option than the Mavic, particularly for the price.
the nd filters and charging bank are sadly not included in the flymore combo. 😔
the Air 3 fly more combo I received had the charging bank but no ND filters..
I discovered a new bummer the hard way. Obstacle avoidance isn't all that they say it is. Mine was taken out by dead branches of a lodgepole pine. Admittedly, I should have seen it before it happened, so I'll take some of the blame. Yet, oddly enough the obstacle alarm came on and it never braked as in my settings. In the short time that it took me to look up, the props were already tearing into the dead wood, and tumbling down it came from about 70 feet through many branches on the way down. Not a pretty ending.
So VERY disappointed in DJI for not including the needed 60W power charger. No ND filters also make the Fly More Bundle incomplete.
I owned Mavic 2 Pro and Phantom 4 Pro, and to be honest I don't see any significant improvements in image quality compared to Mavic 3.
On paper it has larger sensor, in reality, the noise reduction on Mavic 3 is quite aggressive, and there's no option to control it via app. Same story with sharpening setting, which I had on Phantom 4 Pro, but not on Mavic 3. Although flying experience is better on Mavic 3, image quality is not what I expected.
Great review and super footage..... I have to know..... where are those dunes.... I feel like I have drove right past them.......😀😀
Are there really nd filters in the fly more combo I’m not seeing any ?
Nope. Checked the pinned comment. I was misinformed
@@kylemeshna you got a unit to review I get it !! No worries
@@jakesdronelife6307 Appreciate the understanding haha. most folks are so angry!
do you really need manual aperture when you fly few meters above ground?
We should all accept that adjustable aperture is reserved only for the mavic series,i love my air 3 and my air 2s😊
What about the purple color cast that the 1 1/3“ sensor in 48MP photo mode produces in high contrast scenes? This is a big flaw on the Mini 3 Pro, most likely produced by de-beyering… is this also noticeable on the Air 3?
Only way i want to upgrade drone is when it’s a regular drone and fpv drone type combo with nice specs.
does it comply with remote ID don't see it in the compatible list like the air 2s and mini 2 pro
Shot slook very sharpened and is this without ND? It's 'choppy' as hell
Lots of shots had to break the 180 rule yes
Is the Air 3 a Mavic? I have never heard of the Air series being Mavics (I am a Noob though) I have come from flying drones for the sake of flying and building them, to beginning to do photography with them. I liked the look of the Mavic 3 series, especially the pro, of course... but the cost was very high, I couldn't justify spending that much on one drone. The obvious answer was not to buy ONE drone (haha)... I was tossing up between the Air 3 and the Mini 4 pro... the Air 3 won... then the Mini 4 pro won... then the Air 3 won again (and so did the Mini 4 pro) so I did the only thing I could possibly do... I bought both! When people ask which is my favorite, I say the one by DJI is my favorite. I am a beginner (in drone photography)... my advice to someone wanting to get into the hobby, either will be perfect, whichever you get you will be happy with... whichever yo get, you will wish you got the other... so, do what I did, buy one then save up for the other as well! Greetings from Australia (BTW, I just subscribed and tripped over some Kryptonite and strangely, it had no effect on me at all??!! Obviously, subscribing worked! Imagine that!!)
I got the Fly more combo in Brazil (in official DJI store) and it DOES NOT come with NF filters. 😢
Peace question, can Air 3 compatible use with DJI integra as fpv ?
Just chatted with DJI customer support. They said that the Integra is currently not supported by the Air 3, but maybe this could change in the future
@kylemeshna thank you for your info.
God bless you & family.
180 degree rule ? I was just going to buy the m3pro after sellling my OG mini but raptured my acl beginning of June , now I’m ok and the air 3 came out so will prob buy that one ..but the mini is still in my mind cause it’s so small perfect those few times I’m hiking and I have to look up the laws in Sweden . But probably will go for the air 3
5:33 No, it's NOT! When you use the vertical mode the sensor gets more details, image expands the viewing area. Just look at your own footage. The framing is different.
So far with my dji air 3 sir i m not yet encounter any issue so that ilove my air 3 and thank you so much for another tips and information our air 3💖💖
I really want this drone!
again - small sensor...so why should I upgrade from Mavic 2 pro to this? tripple decker camere is useless - larger sensor is usable
Agree @ 6:25... And, ability to switch camera/lenses without stopping record... And audio recording on the controller (as android supports that) (like you can on the RC-RM330 controller USB-C port) For the rest, such a great drone!!! And does anyone know how grab the Screenrecording from the SD card??????? (like you can with the RC-RM330?)
It is worth to change my mavic 2 pro for the air 3?
They do not included the ND filter in the fly more combo
Read the pinned comment 🙂
It is a 12MP sensor, 48MP is interpolated.
Wait a sec did you just say that the ND filters come with the fly more combo!? 6:48.
I was mistaken 😔 Check the pinned comment
100% agreed. It’s the one thing that’s keeping me from buying one right now. Might have to save up for the Pro 3. Still debating.
Just wait for Air3s
So I sold my mavic 3 because I never used the second camera. I keep saying I’m going to get the mavic 3 pro but for the price, this drone is in heavy consideration. I haven’t quite sold myself on not being able to control the aperture. That is KILLING me. lol.
👍🏽 nice very good video!
the filters are NOT included in the fly more kit per dji when i ordered mine.
Nd filter are not included with fly more
Thanks for sharing! It would be awesome if Air 3 can support variable aperture.
Agreed!
I currently own the M2P. It's a pretty good drone still, but one big pain is the *ss is the adjustable focus. I can't count how many times I got home and realized that I forgot to adjust the focus and the videos/images came out blurry! Why can't they keep the focus to infinity. For goodness sake, it's a drone, it films landscape. There is no need for manual focus or even adjustable focus. Keep it on infinity or at least AF. I really contemplate selling it and getting a different drone because of it. is the focus on the mavic 3 also adjustable? what about the new Mavic Air 3?
Are you referring to Mavic2 Pro ? what do you mean by "adjustable focus " ? it has AF and AF-C - ( continuous auto focus -the latter, but this can be turned off). AF just does its job well. I had no problems with out of focus shots in the past years on my M2P.
Is it actually a 48mp sensor or native 12mp?
They just updated firmware for 48MP
It's a 12mp quad bayer using interpolation to produce 48mp output.
I'm saving you from pulling your hair off 6 months later! 😆 Wait for the Dji Air 3 Pro. I said this weeks ago, when the leaks confirmed that the Air 3 will come with a dual 1/1.3 sensor. PS. Dji is dropping the S version.
Does the mavic 3 pro have bigger then a 1 inch sensor?
The main camera is micro4/3, 3x Tele is 1/1.3inch, and the 7x tele is 1/2inch
The one thing that sets apart the Mavic 3's apart from the Air 3 is the Hasselblad micro 4/3rd sensor which imho has superb noise handling while shooting in low light. Would have expected you to speak about the Hasselblad offering in addition to aperture control and the 3rd camera when comparing it to the Mavic3 pro
Good point. It's all about the camera.
I just watch a video comparing ma3 and m3Classic and different was not that much.
@@YoelDiamante I just watch videos, they're all same.
ND filters with fly more ? Sounds like your BUDDY got a perk!
Thanks for reading the pinned comment 🙃
My bad! I really don’t usually take the time to read. Just watch and maybe listen
my video quality in 3x zoom is horrible defo bad what is causing it? its pixalated
ND filters are NOT included in the Fly More Combo
Thanks for reading the pinned comment 🙃
I am going to wait for a drone with a 4/3 24mm and 1 inch 70mm 😊😊 currently have a mini 3 pro.
They should have included the 100w charger with the drone, without it, its pretty much useless. Charging takes more than half a day. Imagine doing back to back shoots. So add another $100 into the price and the cost of NDs which is needed for this drone for lack of aperture control.
At this point I have so many good USBC chargers that I've never found that to be an issue. So many things take USB-C that I just bring one 100w Charger with me everywhere and call it a day. The lack of NDs in the fly more kit is a huge bummer though...
Your video was helpful. I just ordered mine and it will probably amaze me, sense I am going from a 7 year old Phantom 4 pro plus to this. I will save my money for the RC Pro controller, just for the HDMI port. I love flying with my Skyzone SKY O4X goggles. Which I have been using with my Phantom.
I have the very first Mavic Pro and I’m in dire need of an upgrade. I think this might be our best bet!
And the filters are not included with the fly more combo
Isn't the predecessor the Air 2, and not the 2S? Otherwise it would be called the 3S, right? It seems like everyone has completely forgot about the Air2
No man, predecessor means the previous model, not matter how they called it.
@@bobbyd.6186 That's a fair point, and I know they've made the smaller sensor more powerful on the air. 3. But maybe that's why they didn't go with the full 1inch on it because the air 2 didn't have it. So was the 2s just a one-off name?
@@jonred233 Of course they will not put everything in any drone and make it perfect. How would they sell Air 3S, 4, etc. if there is nothing to upgrade?
@@bobbyd.6186 Well that was my main question, will there be an air 3s.
I'd say the Fatal flaw in all modern drones is that they've got big brother inside. In other words they won't fly or obey the pilots commands based on geofencing.
Mavic 3 has that Micro 4/3's sensor
Do i look like i know what a jpeg is??? I just want a picture of a got dang hot dog
2:22 It literally is a mirrorless camera…
Great thanks …
Too pricey in Australia - Air 3 fly more kit just on AU$2,400 whereas the Magic 3 Pro (non fly more) is just on AU$3,000 - only AU$600 difference.
I've seen $2k for fly more Air 3, and mavic 3 pro fly more is around 4 or 5k. Big difference.
1600 vs 3k with one batt each. Fair difference.
Filters are not included in the fly more combo due to the price point of this drone.
Yep. Read my pinned comment
How’s the lens cap ?
Very good. attaches very firmly, but still easy to pinch and take off.
There is no such drone as a Mavic Air 3. And that's a 12MP camera regardless of fancy quad pixel crap. I returned this drone after 3 days.
The Dji Air 3 Pro will come with a 1" sensor for the main camera, probably a variable aperture and 256 or 512 GB of internal storage. Mark my words 😎😄
I wish they do increase the internal storage. But I doubt the sensor size will change and if it does I want it to change for both sensors, with variable aperture on the main camera if I can get it on both that would be amazing too and the frame rate to increase to 4k 120 and I'd buy that I'm a heart beat!!
It's not compatible with my RC Pro controller. Deal killer. While some are always looking for the latest and greatest, I'll stick with my A2S and M3C. Both can do more than most people who fly them. An upgrade won't change that fact, well, unless you're about bragging rights. LOL.
Im yet to see anyone discuss the still image quailty..
Isnt there anyone else at all interested in this ?
2:22 12!!! It’s not true 48
It's name is just ONLY the DJI Air 3, have no any related to the Old Family the "Mavic" at all~ Pls note~
What’s not perfect about the air 3 the camera if you want to save money just buy the mini Pro or wait for the air 3s to come out, it will have a larger sensor and 5K
Not a mavic air 3 dood.
Just a air 3..🙈🙈😂