Steve Keirn on Why Chief Jay Strongbow Was the WORST WWF Road Agent
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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Strongbow politicking is the reason Gary Hart never worked for WWE and for that he can never be forgiven.
Gary Hart in 80s WWF with the monster heels would of been amazing its a travesty he never worked there ..his book is my favourite of all the wrestling books
As far as I can tell, the only person who got along with Chief Jay Strongbow was Ric Flair. Flair has a thousand different Strongbow stories that all involve both men getting totally wasted.
Can you elaborate on this story? I had never heard this before and I'd love to know more.
@@CharlesDLincoln According to Gary Hart's book, he was being brought in by Vince as a manager in 84. Strongbow made him late for a gig by having Howard Finkel call him and ask him to pick someone up at the airport that had already left. Gary had fired Strongbow from Georgia 8 years earlier and figured this was his payback. He figured he'd been set up once already, and when he realized Strongbow was one of Vince's most trusted henchman, decided it wouldn't work in WWF so he walked out. Vince offered for him to manage Beefcake and he turned it down and never spoke to Vince again.
Gary Hart was a genius. It's such a shame he doesn't have the same status today as Bobby Heenan or Jimmy Hart because he was never in the Fed. He's on my mount rushmore of managers for sure.
People, watch Honky Tonk Man’s shoot on Strongbow, hilarious stuff. “He killed more careers than Soma’s” 😄
Honky Tonk Man said it the best "F@$k Jay Strongbow" 😂😂😂
Seems HTM was not the only one who knew Strongbow was a prick!
Cornette & The Poffos hated him too
There were countless others that didn't get along with him or care much.
1)Bret Hart
2) the Poffos
3)Jim Cornette
4)Paul Orndorff
5)Tatanka
6) Kamala
7) King Curtis
8) Blackjack Lanza
9) the Bulldogs
The only workers and wrestlers that I could think of had spoken fondly of him was Tony Atlas and Bad News Brown.
@@philliplandry4139 Bret only spoke fondly about Strongbow as an agent only
This is one of the best shoot interviews I've ever seen, and I've watched more than I care to admit! Thanks so much for all you guys do.
Steve should be in the wwe hall of fame.
I hear so many good things about Fit Findlay.
Fit Findlay once heard a man say that wrestling was fake, so he broke the man's thumbs. That's a rather extreme reaction, but Fit Findlay believe that he had to "protect the business".
I remember as a kid Skinner was scary as hell looking at this interview seems like a nice guy loved a match I saw he had with Bret Hart Good Stuff
Was Skinner ever in any WWE pay-per-views? I can't remember Steve Keirn as the Skinner character in any PPVs. Unfortunately, Skinner was overused in matches with jobbers that were rather uneventful. I kept wondering: "Where is this character going?" Then before I knew it, Skinner was gone, and Steve Keirn was being utilized as the second Doink the Clown. The writers didn't know what to do with Steve Keirn. 1992 to 1993 was a sucky time for him in the WWF.
@@Scorch1028 yes, he had a pretty decent IC bout against Bret Hart at This Tuesday In Texas. He also had a rather short match against Owen Hart at Wrestlemania 8. I'm sure he was part of the Royal Rumble '92 and '93.. but these appearances were rather short as well. He might have been in a couple more PPVs but I can't really think of any others at the moment.
Strongbow: "Your comeback was the shits"
Owen: "Yeah? Maybe I should of done a war dance" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Strongbow the Family Dollar Wahoo McDaniel
Chief Jay Strongbow (a true full blooded Italian Native American.) is the reason I started watching pro wrestling.
I was 10 or 11 flipping channels. by hand. came across my local UHF channel 56 and saw him walking to the ring in
that headdress. I was curious and that was it. Bob Backlund became my childhood wrestling hero though.
Backlund was a legit tough guy, still looks good at his age.
Keirn should have ripped off Strongbow's headdress and shoved the chicken feathers down his throat!
Strongbow was a stooge for the WWE office . None of the wrestlers have a good word to say about him .
Many do
I liked Chief Jay when I was a kid, but also like watching other wrestlers bash him in interviews. The best of both worlds.
Very interesting stuff from Steve Keirn. His comments about Jay Strongbow gave me pause. Bret Hart, for example, named Strongbow as a great agent, so to hear the opposite opinion, articulated well I might add, is great material.
Kevin Nash also liked Chief Jay as an agent. Kevin and Shawn Michaels always wanted to get advice from Chief. The members of the Kliq loved Chief. Honky Tonk Man, Keirn, Savage & Lanny Poffo were very critical of Chief. So Strongbow was a very interesting guy as an agent. Very interesting to get those kind of reactions from the guys in the locker oomph.
Brett said Scarpa initially ribbed him. Then, Bruiser Brody stood up for Brett. Scarpa changed his tune afterwards.
Strongbow was actually one of the most over guys in the WWF back before the WWF took on all the territories.
Never could figure that out. He sucked on the Mike & his work was phoney.
From his promo videos, Skinner was a more realistic Crocodile Dundee than Paul Hogan.
I always thought the idea of a Pretendian wrestler was off-the-charts goofy.
Chief was usually the "number three good guy" wherever he wrestled. Odd that he had any ego about that.
I know not how he wrestled before the Chief Jay gimmick in the WWWF, but Chief Jay Strongbow was probably the worst and most unbelievable character/ wrestler I ever saw. I remember as a 10 or 12 old kid being amazed at how unbelievable his work was. It when I first started thinking wrestling was a work. The chops that couldn’t swat away fly’s. The knee kicks whereas his feet literally got about 2 inches off the mat and the dance that looked an arthritis riddled 80 year old with osteoporosis. I remember him beating the hell out of Ernie Ladd and knowing if wrestling was real it would never be happening. Thank you Chief Jay for wising up a little kid years before he should of been
I wish people would set their phones down so the picture will stay still and we're not forced to look up their noses.
Great perspective 👍🏼
Skinner was legit scary to me as a kid. I believed the gimmick. That this dude was legitimately mean, greasy, and a bit off from being in the bayou too long lol. The gator claw around his neck, and the black stuff oozing from his mouth. Underrated gimmick on a hell of a great worker
This guy probabaly has the best shoot interviews on youtube
Bret Hart said George Steele was the worst.
Bret is one of the few boys who seemed to like Strongbow.
Chief Jay Strongbow from the Fugawi tribe
We would see strongbow at the tacoma dome standing at the entrance curtain and try to get a wave or howdy out of him. Never acknowledge any fans.
Steve should be in the hall of the fame and be as skinner in the wwe game
When i was a kid watching Championship Wrestling from Florida with Gordon Solie, Steve Keirn was one of my favorites, I still remember the flying forearm and slewprr hold. 👍
Stronbow ruined more careers than drugs
Strongbow had been in wrestling forever and was politically well connected backstage in the WWE. There were guys he liked and guys he didn't like. He was powerful enough to limit the careers of some guys in the WWE and made sure others (Gary Hart for example) never got in the door.
Steve was a great talent, however there must have been more to the story to keep him from gaining more success in the biz and achieving HOF status. Most of the times the road agents were just doing as they were instructed as he saw later on. Great interview, keep up the great work.
Size buddy plain and simple back in the late seventies until the early 2000s the wwf and wcw pushed the huge guys who looked like they had come straight out of a comic book.
@@davidnorton2473 so true sir .
Honky Tonk man said Strongbow was awful as an agent.
Keirn was great in the ring, Strongbow absolutely sucked! Chief had NO business evaluating matches!. Glad to see Keirn doing well. 👍
Strongbow in his prime was more Over than half of the WWE roster today.
@@chadk890 That's damning with faint praise. At best Strongbow was mediocre, knock off Wahoo McDaniel with almost none of the working ability Wahoo had.
Strongbow is pretty much shit on by most wrestlers.
Cancel culture would have retroactively canceled Chief Jay Strongbow if he had anything worth canceling.
Chief Jay Cheapo!!!
Honky Tonk Man would agree with him about Jay Strongbow being the worst road agent
I didn't see much of Strongbow but he was lame, the stories of him being an asshole are better than his wrestling 🤗
Worse than George Steele? That's surprising, Steve.
Italian pretending to be Native
crying over litter
It's a better world without Jay strongbow.
What did he do to you?
your loss
He was a bastard
Maybe...he was alright....I just heard alot of bad stuff o. Him....RIP.JOE SARPA...you are missed
He was a Wahoo rip off.
Jay Strongbow was a fake Native American........being Native, I have a hard time respecting someone like that.......yeah, he was playing a character, but, come on now......at least Tatanka n Wahoo were legit Native
so were the briscoes
@@ducklife420 forgot about them.....my bad
No shit captain obvious! It's a character he is portraying! Just like all the other wrestler.
Like I said.....I am Native.....I never was a fan of non-Natives portraying Native characters
Any of his matches are better than a dommie mysterio match
Lets not get crazy now. Besides the feud with Greg Valentine what great matches did he have?
When I think Steve Keirn I think Fabulous Ones. I did not even know he ever wrestled in that WWF garbage
Had to make money at SOME point in his career.
He sold his chicken feathers and became a white man a real wopbopaloobop